THE AGE OF MAMMON (Featured Article)

“Financiers – like bank robbers – do not create wealth. They merely distribute it. While the mob may idolize holdup men in good times, in the bad times it lynches them. What they will do to the new money men when their blood is up, we wait eagerly to find out.”  – Mobs, Messiahs and Markets

  

As our economy hurtles towards its meeting with destiny, the political class seeks to assign blame on their enemies for this Greater Depression. The Republicans would like you to believe that Bill Clinton, Robert Rubin, Chris Dodd, and Barney Frank and their Community Reinvest Act caused the collapse of our financial system. Democrats want you to believe that George Bush and his band of unregulated free market capitalists created a financial disaster of epic proportions. The truth is that America has been captured by a financial class that makes no distinction between parties. These barbarians have sucked the life out of a once productive nation by raping and pillaging with impunity while enriching only them. They live in 20,000 square foot $10 million mansions in Greenwich, CT and in $3 million dollar penthouses on Central Park West.

These are the robber barons that represent the Age of Mammon. The greed, avarice, gluttony and acute materialism of these American traitors has not been seen in this country since the 1920’s. The hedge fund managers and Wall Street bank executives that occupy the mansions and penthouses evidently don’t find much time to read the bible in their downtime from raping and pillaging the wealth of the middle class. There are cocktail parties and $5,000 a plate political “fundraisers” to attend. You can’t be cheap when buying off your protection in Washington DC.

Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal: But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal: For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also. No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Mammon.Matthew 6:19-21,24

It seems that Lloyd Blankfein, the CEO of Goldman Sachs, may have been overstating the case in saying his firm is doing God’s work. With his $67.9 million compensation in 2007 and payment of $20.2 billion to his co-conspirators, Blankfein appears to be a proverbial camel trying to pass through the eye of a needle. This compensation was paid in the year before the financial collapse brought on by the criminal actions of Lloyd and his fellow henchmen. After having his firm bailed out by the American middle class taxpayer at the behest of  fellow Goldman alumni Hank Paulson, Lloyd practiced his version of austerity by cutting compensation for his flock to only $16.2 billion ($500,000 per employee) in 2009. I’m all for people making as much money as they can for doing a good job. But, I ask you – What benefits have Goldman Sachs, the other Wall Street banks, and hedge funds provided for America?

Never have so few, done so little, and made so much, while screwing so many.

In 2005, the top 25 hedge fund managers “earned” $9 billion, or an average of $360 million. One year after a financial collapse caused by the financial innovations peddled by Wall Street, the top 25 hedge fund managers paid themselves $25 billion, or an average of $1 billion a piece. For some perspective, there were 7 million unemployed Americans in 2006. Today there are 14.6 million unemployed Americans. While the country plunges deeper into Depression, the barbarians pick up the pace of their plundering and looting of the remaining wealth of the nation. Bill Bonner and Lila Rajiva pointed out a basic truth in 2007, before the financial collapse.

“On the Forbes list of rich people, you will find hedge fund managers in droves, but no one who made his money as a hedge fund client.” – Mobs, Messiahs and Markets

Ask the clients of Bernie Madoff how they are doing.

1920’s Redux

The parallels between the period leading up to the Great Depression and our current situation leading to a Greater Depression are revealing. When you examine the facts without looking through the prism of party politics it becomes clear that when the wealth and power of the country are overly concentrated in the clutches of the top 1% wealthiest Americans, financial collapse and depression follow. This concentration of income and wealth did not cause the Stock Market Crash of 1929 or the financial system implosion in 2008, but they were a symptom of a sick system of warped incentives. The top 1% of income earners were raking in 24% of all the income in America in 1928. After World War II until 1980, the top 1% of income earners consistently took home between 9% and 11% of all income in the country. During the 1950’s and 1960’s when average Americans made tremendous strides in their standard of living, the top 1% were earning 10% of all income. A hard working high school graduate could rise into the middle class, owning a home and a car.

From 1980 onward, the top 1% wealthiest Americans have progressively taken home a greater and greater percentage of all income. It peaked at 22% in 1999 at the height of the internet scam. Wall Street peddled IPOs of worthless companies to delusional investors and siphoned off billions in fees and profits. The rich cut back on their embezzling of our national wealth for a year and then resumed despoiling our economic system by taking advantage of the Federal Reserve created housing boom. By 2007, the top 1% again was taking home 24% of the national income, just as they did in 1928. When the wealth of the country is captured by a small group of ruling elite through fraudulent means, collapse and crisis becomes imminent. We have experienced the collapse, while the crisis deepens.

It’s Good To Be the King

The Wall Street oligarchs  were able to accumulate an ever increasing portion of corporate profits by inventing securitization, interest-rate swaps, and credit-default swaps which swelled the volume of transactions that bankers could make money on. These products were originally introduced as a means for corporations to hedge their risks. Wall Street shysters chose to use their “creative” financial products to build the biggest gambling casino in the history of the world. They functioned as the house, siphoning off billions in profits, but then got caught up in the hysteria and placed billions of bets themselves. This resulted in the financial industry generating 41% of all business profits in 2007. From World War II through 1980, financial industry profits ranged between 10% and 15%. Simon Johnson explains the despicable hijacking that has taken place since then.

From 1973 to 1985, the financial sector never earned more than 16 percent of domestic corporate profits. In 1986, that figure reached 19 percent. In the 1990s, it oscillated between 21 percent and 30 percent, higher than it had ever been in the postwar period. This decade, it reached 41 percent. Pay rose just as dramatically. From 1948 to 1982, average compensation in the financial sector ranged between 99 percent and 108 percent of the average for all domestic private industries. From 1983, it shot upward, reaching 181 percent in 2007. 

The original robber barons amassed huge personal fortunes, typically through the use of anti-competitive business practices. These well known titans of industry included Henry Ford, Andrew Carnage, John D. Rockefeller, and JP Morgan. They may have practiced questionable business ethics, but they did create wealth while benefitting the country as a whole. They introduced the automobile, provided the nation with steel, produced the oil that powered our economy, and brought order to industrial chaos of the day. It seems their fortunes were built by creating rather than destroying.

The disgustingly rich Wall Street wheeler dealers who live in Greenwich CT and NYC and summer in the Hamptons have created nothing. Their immense wealth has been created through draining the economic system of its lifeblood. Their financial innovations have created no lasting benefit for our society. Wall Street knowingly created no documentation (liar loans) mortgage loans, Option ARM loans, and subprime loans. You do not create products that beg for fraud unless you want fraud. The packaging of these fraudulent mortgages into CDOs and CDSs by Wall Street’s crime machine benefitted Wall Street only. Those who got the loans defaulted, lost the homes, and had their credit ruined. Wall Street financiers have lured the American public into debt with easy credit and a marketing machine geared to convince the average Joe that he could live just like the rich. Simon Johnson explained the phenomena in a recent article.  

 
“Excessive consumer debt is an outcome of prolonged inequality – in trying to remain middle class, too many people borrowed too much, while unscrupulous lenders were only too willing to take advantage of such people.” 
 

You Call This Capitalism?

Capitalism is supposed to be an economic system in which the means of production and distribution are privately owned and operated for profit; decisions regarding supply, demand, price, distribution, and investments are not made by the government; Profit is distributed to owners who invest in businesses, and wages are paid to workers employed by businesses. The American economy is in no way a free market capitalistic system. It has become a oligarchic consumer capitalist society that is manipulated, in a deliberate and coordinated way, on a very large scale, through mass-marketing techniques, to the advantage of Wall Street and mega-corporations.

When you hear the Wall Street class on CNBC argue against tax increases for the rich, they hark to the fact that small businesses would be hurt most by the expiration of the Bush tax cuts. There are 6 million small businesses in the US, with 90% of them employing less than 20 employees. These are not the rich. The vast majority of these businesses earn less than $1 million per year. There are only about 134,000 people in America who make on average $2.5 million per year. There are another 600,000 people who make on average $760,000 per year. Out of a workforce of 150 million, less than 1 million rake in over $750,000 per year. These are not small businesses. They are the Wall Street elite, corporate CEOs and the privileged classes that control the power in NYC and Washington DC.

The following charts clearly show that  perverse incentives in the US financial system that have allowed corporate executives to reap ungodly pay packages, while the middle class workers who do the day after day heavy lifting in corporations have been treated like dogs. Considering the S&P 500, which measures the stock returns of the 500 largest companies in the U.S., has returned 0% for the last 12 years, the CEOs of these companies should be slightly embarrassed paying themselves 300 times as much as their average workers. Not in the age of mammon. Big time CEOs are rock stars. Outrageous pay packages are a medal of honor in a world where humility and true honor don’t exist.

The Depression that currently is engulfing the nation was 30 years in the making. The criminal Wall Street financiers are the modern day John Dilingers. They have mastered the art of stealing from the masses while convincing these same people that they should admire them because they are rich. This is the oddity about Americans as pointed out by Bill Bonner and Lila Rajiva.

“The poor genuinely believe the rich are better than they are. They are smarter and better educated. The poor even support low tax rates for the rich, as long as they have a lurking chance of joining them.” –   Mobs, Messiahs and Markets

The truth is that the poor have no chance of joining the the rich. The game is rigged. The poor have admired the rich for decades. But, hard times have arrived. And they are about to get harder. The rich have armed guards to keep the poor at bay. They will need an army of guards before this crisis subsides.

Leonard Cohen sums it up perfectly in his song Everybody Knows:

Everybody knows that the dice are loaded
Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed
Everybody knows that the war is over
Everybody knows the good guys lost
Everybody knows the fight was fixed
The poor stay poor, the rich get rich
That’s how it goes
Everybody knows
Everybody knows that the boat is leaking
Everybody knows that the captain lied
Everybody got this broken feeling
Like their father or their dog just died

 

  
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Smokey
Smokey
September 1, 2010 9:18 am

LLPOH—-DP is a dumbass. It was all he could do to remember Smokey, Robmu, SSS, Jim and neocon. Any more names and that microscopic brain would have short circuited. Gemini–Well said, but I have some rough news for you. I’m not finished with you yet. RE–Welcome aboard, just don’t piss me off.

Robmu1
Robmu1
September 1, 2010 10:39 am

DP is a big fucking pussy. He uses a name I gave him – David Pierre. His original post on TBP used the name David, and he recommended that we all run to Canada as scared little school girls like he did. I called him out as a coward and traitor, and gave him the name David Pierre, which of course refers to the white flag waving french as well as the french flavor in parts of Canada (Canada’s only fault here is allowing such a person as DP to live there, although we can rejoice that he’s not in the U.S.). Everything DP posts is lifted from someone else. He even posted on another site an entire post of mine claiming it as his own. A pure fucking weasel.

SSS
SSS
September 1, 2010 12:37 pm

Amman Mohammed

Are you posting from Jordan? Thanks for the comment on drugs, which continue to tear at the fabric of our society in many ways. I think, however, that the biggest problem facing the U.S. is the incestuous relationship between the U.S. Treasury, the Federal Reserve, and the banksters on Wall Street. These idiots have put the country on a path to bankruptcy.

LLPOH

Thanks for the Life, Liberty….clarification. That was driving me nuts, and I knew it had to have a simple explanation. Did I just say something that will prompt another funny picture?

Administrator
Administrator
September 1, 2010 1:39 pm

SSS using the cone of silence with Chief

[img]http://alistair.cockburn.us/get/1884[/img]

Gemini
Gemini
September 1, 2010 3:18 pm

Smokey,
Seriously? I’m so far down the TBP pecking order you’ll have to lift me up three notches to kick my head in. In this thread alone I have called the Administrator a sell out, insinuated that he may be a closet 9/11 truther and threatened to plaster his blog with senseless filthy pictures. All without a single trip to the ER. Shit, I ain’t even on his radar screen.

Go drown some kittens if you want to feel like a man.

Administrator
Administrator
  Gemini
September 1, 2010 3:27 pm

Gemini

I would have kicked your ass, but I was too distracted by the fucking site not working.

Gemini
Gemini
September 1, 2010 3:59 pm

BTW I was kidding about goatse, I would never deface this upstanding site with such garbage. I patiently await your words of wisdom. I’m mulling “losing touch” right now, thanks for that.

Pitchman
Pitchman
September 1, 2010 4:52 pm

Jim I have really enjoyed your articles over the last couple years. I posted the beginning of your article THE AGE OF MAMMON on my blog Inflection Point @ http://notionalvalue.blogspot.com/ with full credit and links directly to your site (see below). If this is a problem please advise.

Keep up the good work!

-Eric C.

THE AGE OF MAMMON
From: TheBurningPlatform.com

“Financiers – like bank robbers – do not create wealth. They merely distribute it. While the mob may idolize holdup men in good times, in the bad times it lynches them. What they will do to the new money men when their blood is up, we wait eagerly to find out.” – Mobs, Messiahs and Markets

Pic

As our economy hurtles towards its meeting with destiny, the political class seeks to assign blame on their enemies for this Greater Depression. The Republicans would like you to believe that Bill Clinton, Robert Rubin, Chris Dodd, and Barney Frank and their Community Reinvest Act caused the collapse of our financial system. Democrats want you to believe that George Bush and his band of unregulated free market capitalists created a financial disaster of epic proportions. The truth is that America has been captured by a financial class that makes no distinction between parties. These barbarians have sucked the life out of a once productive nation by raping and pillaging with impunity while enriching only them. They live in 20,000 square foot $10 million mansions in Greenwich, CT and in $3 million dollar penthouses on Central Park West.

These are the robber barons that represent the Age of Mammon. The greed, avarice, gluttony and acute materialism of these American traitors has not been seen in this country since the 1920′s. The hedge fund managers and Wall Street bank executives that occupy the mansions and penthouses evidently don’t find much time to read the bible in their downtime from raping and pillaging the wealth of the middle class. There are cocktail parties and $5,000 a plate political “fundraisers” to attend. You can’t be cheap when buying off your protection in Washington DC.

From 1980 onward, the top 1% wealthiest Americans have progressively taken home a greater and greater percentage of all income.

Chart
From: TheBurningPlatform.com

Read More: THE AGE OF MAMMON

“Never have so few, done so little, and made so much, while screwing so many.” – Jim Q., TheBurningPlatform.com

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 1, 2010 7:18 pm

In response to SSS:

Amish, Mennonite, Buddhist, Wiccan whatever, $10M in about any farming community at say $1000/acre amounts to around 10,000 acres. Given that it takes approximately 1 acre to feed a person and an Amish family might be large, say 10 with kids and elders, I’d say said farmer has about 9990 acres more than he needs. Meets the definition of a Pigman. Hang ’em High.

RE

SSS
SSS
September 1, 2010 8:16 pm

RE

And aw-a-a-a-y we go.

$1,000 an acre? Are you serious? You can’t buy Arizona desert shrubland for a grand an acre, much less than Lancaster County, Pennsylvania where a ton of Amish live. Lancaster County has some of the richest and most productive farmland on the entire planet. The soil is so rich that you can grow tobacco and cotton there, despite the vastly shorter growing season than exists in the South. Let’s try $25,000-30,000 an acre as a starting point.

Do you know how big your 10,000 acre farm scenario is? 15.6 SQUARE MILES to be exact. A Texas rancher would be happy with that size spread. Where on God’s green earth are you going to find a farm that size in Pennsylvania or Ohio, which host a large majority of Amish and Mennonites? Answer. No where.

As for your “Hang ’em High” comment…….Oh, what a wonderful reward for two of the most peaceful, hard-working, and community-oriented people in this country.

Glad you posted. Shows your shallow knowledge, poor math, and shoot-from-the-hip intellect.

LLPOH
LLPOH
September 1, 2010 8:26 pm

SSS – I let RE slide ’cause I figured you’d call bullshit better’n me. I love the Amish. When you run ’em over they won’t even sue you, and don’t believe in insurance. They work hard, mind their own business, and produce great stuff. Wish there were a few million more of them.

Administrator
Administrator
  LLPOH
September 1, 2010 8:58 pm

The Amish won’t even notice the Fourth Turning. Unless they are attacked and stripped of their land.

SSS
SSS
September 2, 2010 12:23 am

LLPOH

My paternal lineage is Mennonite that goes back to the 17th Century. The first mention of my ancestors, written in a 1925 geneology, mentions a Swiss national who was burned at the stake for his apostatic beliefs. You can see why I didn’t like RE’s suggestion of a “Pigman roast.”

Admin

I agree wholeheartedly. Neither the Amish or Mennonites will notice the Fourth Turning, just like my farm girl mother-in-law never noticed the Depression. She and her family got up in the morning, slopped the hogs, fed the chickens, and tended the fields. And made enough money to do it all over again the next year. They lived simply, but ate well. What depression?

If TSHTF, it is my view that the largely rural and small town communities where the Amish and Mennonites have a predominent presence will be PROTECTED by others in the community who have the firepower to do so. It is my fervent hope and prayer that this symbiotic relationship will come to fruition immediately should civil unrest become widespread.

Administrator
Administrator
  SSS
September 2, 2010 9:01 am

SSS

When TSHTF we’ll all want to be Amish. I successfully had my first vegetable garden this year. Tomatoes, Eggplant, Squash, and Lettuce were successful. Peppers failed. I will expand next year.

LLPOH
LLPOH
September 2, 2010 1:17 am

SSS – you are but a Johnny -come-lately. My heritage is Choctaw (my bloodline is very fractional but I am a card-carrying member of the tribe, as are my young-uns). Our roots were in North Florida, then they were pushed steadily westward, finally ending in the trail of tears to Oklahoma. While they were burning your folks at the stake, they were starving and freezing mine. I too get a little tetchy about a couple of things. Now I suppose I will have to endure Smokey calling me Chief and the like. I’ll just go sharpen my tomahawk just in case.

I wasn’t fooling – I love the Amish/Mennonites.

LLPOH
LLPOH
September 2, 2010 1:29 am

just thought I would log in. This pissy little Avatar doesn’t really capture my inner bastard very well, so I tend to ignore it.

I just wanted to point out how infrequently we get a hot debate. Either everyone jumps on board kissing or kicking the posters ass. People, we need insight! Hell, I prodded the goldbugs with a big stick on “why you should buy gold” and haven’t had nary a nibble, pro or con.

The site is running great – let’s get after it!

Administrator
Administrator
  LLPOH
September 2, 2010 9:22 am

LLPOH

I’ve posted this before. This is a real world example why you should have some gold. If you lived in Germany on Jan 1, 1922 and had 100 Marks or the amount of gold equal to 100 marks, you would be in an equal place. By Nov 30, 1923 it took 1 trillion Marks to buy the same amount that 100 Marks bought in 1922. Your original 100 Marks became worthless. When the government hit the reset button and started over with a new currency those who held Marks were out of luck. Those who had gold could convert it to the new currency. They retained their wealth by holding gold.

Do you get it?

Debra
Debra
September 2, 2010 5:52 am

BAD BOYS… 😉
You got me all worked up reading the comment section…
And just when I keep telling myself that THE INTERNET (the blogs, the blogs) ARE EATING UP ALL MY TIME and turning me into an INTERNET JUNKIE !
(Does anybody remember that OLD OLD Star Trek number where MY HERO, CAPTAIN KIRK, got into a HOT (for 1960’s television) affair with a cute underling and couldn’t understand why HE was so worked up ? It turned out that THE ALIENS who WERE REDUCED TO BRAINS (presumably from too much Internet connected time…) felt SO STARVED for real physical contact that they couldn’t get from their brains, that they resorted to colonizing OTHER PEOPLE’S BODIES to get some hot stuff (translate FEEL SOMETHING…).
If you get me hooked here, I’m going to turn into a brain !!!
AARGH !
(I LIKE debate, by the way, and AM REALLY GOOD AT IT !!!)
(No, modesty is not one of my virtues…)

StuckInNJ
StuckInNJ
September 2, 2010 6:22 am

Debrah –

That episode explores issues such as slavery and totalitarianism. Those are themes Roddenberry explored on several previous episodes. Of course, with the 3 brains, Roddenberry also examines the evolution of cultural and intellectual superiority. (People who think Star Trek was just a sci-fi series really don’t get it.)

You can read all about the episode – Gamesters of Triskelion – here. Cool pics too;

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/The_Gamesters_of_Triskelion_(episode)

Do you remember the BIG thing that happened on that episode? A HORRIBLE thing!!! See below.

A Kirk quote; “My people pride themselves on being the greatest, most successful gamblers in the universe. We compete for everything — power, fame, women — everything we desire, and it is our nature … to win.” Kirk … the Bernie Madoff of outer space. Lol

On this episode Kirk kissed Uhura. I believe it was the first inter-racial kiss ever on TV.

StuckInNJ
StuckInNJ
September 2, 2010 6:29 am

RE

Remember when I called you a monster on the old TBP?

For folks that weren’t around then — here is bottom line; RE advocates killing old people and young people — anyone who is not productive — when times get tough.

For this I called him a monster.

Now you advocate killing Amish because their farms are big.

You are a fucking piece of shit douchebag. If you had Power — you would be worse than a Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined. Killing Amish. My god, you despicable worm of a human being (my apologies to the worm).

Administrator
Administrator
  StuckInNJ
September 2, 2010 9:29 am

Stuck

Remember when you threatened to come to my house and beat me up?

Debra
Debra
September 2, 2010 8:16 am

Muchas muchas gracias SINJ (…) for those precious references that I will set up an altar to when I disconnect.
You are absolutely right, StarTrek was the most exalting show that American TV produced before jaded appetites set in, and television had to become a thrall media (TO MAKE MONEY, hint, hint).
I read on occasion that William Shatner has identified to a great extent with Captain Kirk, and the Star Trek legacy, for which I definitely admire and excuse him.
After all… when you finish playing Julius Caesar, (Abraham LIncoln ? George Washinton ?) for example, doesn’t life look a little tame afterwards ?
He is also a great Shakespearian actor. (Boy, what would I give to see him take a shot at King Lear.
(Boys, if we is going to hang out together, you best know right now that SHAKESPEARE is my friend, father, idol, God, and lover. In turns of course… 😉 )
Good job he’s dead, right ? 😉

Debra
Debra
September 2, 2010 12:21 pm

i got it.
That’s why I’m currently practicing acquiring gardening skills.
My mother’s cousin made it through the Depression with 13 kids (Mormon family) BECAUSE THEY HAD A GARDEN.
I’m also getting used to living with less, and USING MY NEURONS to wade through all the prefabricated mindwashing hype that IS EVERYWHERE, so that I can USE MY MIND and think on my little old lonesome (with a little help from my friends, too, and a LOT of help from my enemies…).
My daughter wants to become a string instrument maker, but she’s a little depressed these days with THE WORLD ATMOSPHERE, and the increasingly restricted place reserved for the younger generation…
By the way.. HOW DID I GET THAT UGLY FACE ?? Very unfeminine.
Could SOMEBODY drop their hand down into the hat and fish another face out for me ??

llpoh
llpoh
September 2, 2010 1:09 pm

Admin – in a hyperinflationary situation, anything beats paper money. No argument from me there.

StuckInNJ
StuckInNJ
September 2, 2010 1:14 pm

I remember. It is still in force. Just waiting for the right timing. Do you have Brinks security?

I also sent you the article to post.

Thanks.

Administrator
Administrator
  StuckInNJ
September 2, 2010 2:04 pm

Stuck

I didn’t have a shotgun back then. I’ll post it shortly.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 2, 2010 4:48 pm

@ StuckInNJ

You forgot Robespierre 🙂 The main problem with the French Revolution was they let too many Pigmen escape the Guillotine by hiding in Switzerland. This time round hopefully the Revolutionaries will be more thorough.

RE

SSS
SSS
September 2, 2010 9:07 pm

Debra

You said, “Boys, if we is going to hang out together, you best know right now that SHAKESPEARE is my friend, father, idol, God, and lover. In turns of course.”

Count me among the unwashed masses, but Shakespeare bites it big time. I never could understand that 16th Century English prose he used and found it immensely boring. Hell, I waded through Washington Irving’s 19th Century prose in his mid-century and trend-setting biography of George Washington, and I didn’t like it one bit.

Shakespeare is WAY overrated. The line to be his lover will be short. You should be next.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
September 3, 2010 12:08 am

good article. try explaining it to a mountebank beck or greed is good ayn rand disciple. This economic inequality is what beck rants FOR. His disciples coflate economic inequality with communism. no. as the article points out much of the inequality is due to fraud IE wealth destruction. robber baronism. I dont know anyone in this country that wants us to be like a pack of aliens all looking and acting the same like an ant colony. greed is not good. it abrogates demo [people] cracy [rule] and creates what jefferson calles the pseudo aristoi or false elite. That many people fall into the charlatans fear mongering act is mind boggling. beck as a disc jockey has lone used charity events to promote himself thru these and publicity stunts,. 9-28 was a four way publicity stunt for a: beck b: politics c: charity d; religion. as beck said ;’if you take what i say as gospel your an idiot. I call bs. enough of mondor.

ennyhoo i dont know what god blankfein is talking about [etymology of the word here : http://www.logon.org/english/s/p220.html ] and many assume its the god jesus or moses experienced but, in short the babylonian god was baal-gad where as the ancient anglo-saxon was goot or guude and comes from the hebrew guwd. the baal-gad was a conquering god of fortune. so personally i would think he was talking of baal-gad,

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 6, 2010 8:44 pm

@SSS

Silly Strawman argument. How much acreage the typical Amish farmer has in Lancaster PA is irrelevant, as is the price per acre. The underlying point is that a farm worth $10M is most certainly larger than said farmer needs for his personal survival. Therefore, by maintaining personal hegemony over said property, he becomes a rentier demanding others pay him for the produce of that land. The more land you control, the larger the population you can hold in thrall in serfdom. This is how Feudalism worked, dimwit.

If said Amish farmer is only going to retain the property required for himself and his family, he doesn’t fall into the category of Pigman. Its only if he controls that which others need for their survival beyond what he needs for his survival. Get it? Or does the density of your skull reside in neutron star territory?

RE

LLPOH
LLPOH
September 6, 2010 8:50 pm

RE – You could fit your brain inside a peanut shell and there would still be room enough for the peanut. Socialist fuckwit.

Smokey
Smokey
September 6, 2010 9:19 pm

Put RE’s brain on the edge of a razor blade and it would look like a BB rolling down a four lane highway.———If RE’s brain were gas, there wouldn’t be enough fuel to power an ant’s minibike halfway around a BB.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 6, 2010 9:20 pm

@LLPOH

Socialists are morons only slightly less deluded than Capitalists. I’m a Tribalist Fuckwit.

Have a Nice Day.

RE

LLPOH
LLPOH
September 6, 2010 9:33 pm

RE – tribalism usually has as a key tenet that “the least of ours is better than the greatest of yours”. Although I am not real keen on multiculturalism, tribalism, or offshoots thereof, has shown a very dark side on occasion (Nazism comes readily to mind), owing largely to the above tenet. Tribalism also is very socialist by definition. And we all know how successful socialism has been.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 6, 2010 9:43 pm

The fundamental difference is one of scale. The problem lies in the distance between Da Goobermint and Da Gooberned at the Nation-State level. Too many degrees of separation, which allows for corruption of the type systemic to Capitalist, Socialist and Fascist Nation States. Tribal culture functions at a much smaller size range, bringing the folks responsible for administering to the needs of the Tribe closer to those they represent. Generally said folks are directly related by blood. I wouldn’t favor any sort of Goobermint past around 10,000 Human Souls as being valid on a representative level, such Goobermints are always corrupt regardless of their philosophical underpinnings.

RE

LLPOH
LLPOH
September 6, 2010 9:54 pm

RE – too bad there are so many people in the world. You are most probably right re the corruption. If anyone actually wants the job of politician, by definition they are the wrong one to have it. We probably should draft the bastards. But then there is democracy to think of. Crap.

Smokey – LMAO!

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 6, 2010 10:07 pm

The number of Human Souls currently living on the surface of the Earth is an aberration resulting from the one-time discovery and thermodynamic application of a massive amount of easily captured energy in the form of fossil fuels, most particularly Oil. As said energy becomes increasingly expensive in real terms, the overall food supply will drop accordingly, leading to massive worldwide Famine on an unprecedented scale in all of Human History. I fully expect 90% of the Human Population to die off within the next 100 years as an outside parameter. Famine, War and Pestilence, Tribalism isn’t coming back tomorrow, but give it some time here. The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse haven’t hardly got out of the starting gate yet.

Revelation 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

25% in Da Olden Days of Apocalypse. Not this time around. 90%, possibly greater. Coming Soon to a Theatre Near You. RE

SSS
SSS
September 7, 2010 1:13 am

RE

You said, “The more land you control, the larger the population you can hold in thrall in serfdom. This is how Feudalism worked, dimwit. If said Amish farmer is only going to retain the property required for himself and his family, he doesn’t fall into the category of Pigman. Its only if he controls that which others need for their survival beyond what he needs for his survival. Get it? Or does the density of your skull reside in neutron star territory?”

Here’s what you don’t get. The Amish and Mennonites consider land as a gift from God. They don’t think of land in terms of dollars, as you and I might think. They think of it as something that belongs to God for their temporary use to sustain their brief existence here on Earth. They are also willing to share their bounty from that land with their neighbors, whether or not those neighbors share their beliefs.

Can you wrap your mind around that most Christian of concepts, RE? I hope so.

LLPOH
LLPOH
September 7, 2010 1:20 am

SSS – Never wrestle with a pig. You only get dirty and the pigs like it.

SSS
SSS
September 7, 2010 1:39 am

LLPOH

I can’t help myself. I want to see RE’s response.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 7, 2010 1:25 pm

So Amish people don’t pay for their land? God gives it to them? Does God pay their Property Taxes also? They don’t sell what they grow on the land God gives them? They give all the surplus away? If this is the case, said Amish person is not a Pigman, and thus not in danger of Burning at the Stake.

RE

SSS
SSS
September 7, 2010 2:12 pm

RE

Loaded questions, but I’ll respond in caps. So Amish people don’t pay for their land? YES, THEY DO IN SOME CASES. IN MANY CASES, IT IS PASSED DOWN TO HEIRS. God gives it to them? NO, HE DOESN’T. Does God pay their Property Taxes also? NO, HE DOESN’T. They don’t sell what they grow on the land God gives them? YES, THEY DO. They give all the surplus away? NO, THEY DON’T, BUT THEY DO GENEROUSLY SHARE, FOR FREE, WITH THOSE IN NEED.

Look, RE, you know very well that the Amish and Mennonites have to live within a larger society which sets rules which they may or may not agree with, but they nonetheless obey peacefully. And they are pretty clever at using their work ethic to profit from those rules to IMPROVE their own community. Build their own schools and churches with money they’ve earned from their farms and stores. Build their own outbuildings (barns, silos, etc). Lend money to and/or provide free labor to a church member who may have fallen on hard times (house burned down).

I hope you have no objection to this.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 7, 2010 4:59 pm

I have to live within a society which sets rules I don’t agree with also. This doesn’t make me right or wrong, just different from the society at large. Same would be true for the Amish. However, based on your fairly laudatory description of the archetypical Amish farmer, he’s unlikely to be a Pigman, since he would give away food to those in need whether they have money or not. Which would mean he was NOT worth $10M, since his land would be worthless if he gives away the produce for free 🙂

RE

SSS
SSS
September 7, 2010 7:28 pm

RE

I sense a tone of compromise in your last post. Let’s leave it at that. On to the next verbal firefight we’re likely to have.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 7, 2010 9:11 pm

I don’t have anything against the Amish. I direct the blame where it belongs, in the hands of the Pigmen. I ballparked a figure of $10M, at which point YOU brought up the Amish. However, ow you say said $10M Amish man will give away his food to help the needy, so he isn’t worth $10M really, since he gives it away. Really, that’s all you have to do to avoid the Guillotine. Give away your money and you will be safe.

RE

LLPOH
LLPOH
September 7, 2010 9:28 pm

RE – You say “Give away your money and you will be safe”. So you are a just a terrorist and thief at heart. Stunning. I suppose the first clue should have been that you were/are a schoolteacher, a profession I have found to harbor some of the most bitter and twisted of society.

In my experience those individuals worth $10 million or so are generally worthy of their wealth, very often having made their money honestly. It is those who are worth $100 million that make their wealth as EMPLOYEES that are the problem. It is generally accomplished in public companies, and is effectively a result of stealing from the shareholders. Even then, I am generally more inclined to blame the shareholders for letting it happen.

Gemini
Gemini
September 7, 2010 9:33 pm

RE, Does that mean Bernanke is safe? He seems to give more money away than anyone.

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 7, 2010 11:40 pm

I would only be a thief if I took the Pigman’s money. I’m not taking anybody’s money, I don’t need it. I am merely passing out some free advice on how to keep your head attached to your body. It has been my experience that most business owners make money by stealing it from their employees who actually do the work. However, I am giving a bye to up to $10M just because otherwise we would clutter up the street with too many detached heads. If you need more than that to live, this is your problem, not my problem.

RE

Reverse Engineer
Reverse Engineer
September 7, 2010 11:42 pm

Bernanke is not safe because he steals from the Poor to Give to the Rich. Hang ’em High.

RE

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