$4.6 BILLION REPARATIONS FOR BLACKS & INDIANS

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Posted on 9th December 2010 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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So let me get this straight. Obama just gave $4.6 billion to dead black people and dead indians because evidently, the US Government screwed them in the 1800s. Of course, he has to borrow the $4.6 billion from the Chinese to pay the deserving ancestors today. Didn’t we already give the indians casinos? When does the white guilt end? If everyone who has ever been screwed by the US government demanded reparations, it would cost 100 gazillion dollars. Here are my demands:

  • I demand reparations for the decline in my house value because the government and Federal Reserve fraudulently manipulated the financial markets.
  • I demand reparations because the Federal Reserve has inflated away 96% of my purchasing power since 1913.
  • I demand reparations for the money taken from my paycheck and pissed away on undeclared wars in foreign countries.
  • I demand reparations for the trillions wasted on the social welfare entitlement programs that have created the 30 Blocks of Squalor and make my commute not nice.

The vote was 256 to 152 to pass this piece of crap. I’ve included the votes at the end of this post for your enjoyment.

Can you think  of anything that the government has done that should require them to pay you reparations?

Obama signs law for Indian tribes black farmers

WASHINGTON (AP) — American Indians and black farmers will be paid $4.6 billion to address claims of government mistreatment over many decades under landmark legislation President Barack Obama signed Wednesday.

The legislation “closes a long and unfortunate chapter in our history,” Obama said. “It’s finally time to make things right.”

At a signing ceremony at the White House the president declared that approval of the long-delayed legislation “isn’t simply a matter of making amends, it’s about reaffirming our values on which this nation was founded: the principles of fairness and equality and opportunity.”

Obama promised during his campaign to work toward resolving disputes over the government’s past discrimination against minorities. The measure he signed settles a pair of long-standing class-action lawsuits. The measure also settles four long-standing disputes over Native American water rights in Arizona, New Mexico and Montana.

Elouise Cobell, a member of the Blackfeet Tribe from Browning, Mont., and the lead plaintiff in the Indian royalties case, called the signing ceremony “breathtaking,” adding that she did not expect it to happen in her lifetime. Cobell filed the suit nearly 15 years ago and led efforts to reach the $3.4 billion settlement a year ago and then push it through the House and Senate.

At least 300,000 Native Americans say they were swindled out of royalties overseen by the Interior Department since 1887 for oil, gas, grazing and timber rights. The plaintiffs will share the settlement.

Cobell said she was driving her car in Montana when she learned the Senate had approved the measure last month. “I pulled over and I cried,” she said.

Even with Obama’s signature, the settlement must still go through a gauntlet of court hearings, a media campaign to notify beneficiaries, waiting periods for comments and appeals. The first check is not expected to reach tribal plaintiffs until August.

Even so, Cobell said the day was historic.

“This day means a lot to the elders, because it basically means they receive justice,” she said. “The money is secondary. They got justice. The United States government gave them justice.”

Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., used similar language to describe the black farmers case, which marks the second round of funding from a class-action lawsuit originally settled in 1999. The case, which involves allegations of widespread discrimination by local Agriculture Department offices in awarding loans and other aid, is named after Timothy Pigford, a black farmer from North Carolina who was an original plaintiff.

The new settlement, totaling nearly $1.2 billion, is intended for people who were denied payments in the earlier settlement because they missed deadlines for filing. Individual amounts depend on how many claims are successfully filed.

“The time is long overdue to fund the discrimination settlement for farmers who have experienced decades of injustice,” Lincoln said.

The settlement will not erase the anxiety and frustrations many black farmers experienced, Lincoln added, but “it will help compensate their financial losses and begin laying the foundation in restoring their faith in the United States government.”

Some Republicans have warned that black farmers might make up stories of discrimination that are hard to prove. Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, likened the program to “modern-day reparations” for African-Americans and argued that the claims process is rife with fraud.

Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Attorney General Eric Holder said the bill includes new safeguards to prevent fraud, including an extended court approval process and government audits.

Holder called fraud concerns “legitimate,” but he said the settlement rights a historical wrong.

 

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District

Representative

Alabama
Nay AL-1 Bonner, Jo [R]
Nay AL-2 Bright, Bobby [D]
Nay AL-3 Rogers, Michael [R]
Nay AL-4 Aderholt, Robert [R]
Nay AL-5 Griffith, Parker [R]
Nay AL-6 Bachus, Spencer [R]
Yea AL-7 Davis, Artur [D]
Alaska
Yea AK-0 Young, Donald [R]
Arizona
Yea AZ-1 Kirkpatrick, Ann [D]
Nay AZ-2 Franks, Trent [R]
Yea AZ-3 Shadegg, John [R]
Yea AZ-4 Pastor, Edward [D]
Yea AZ-5 Mitchell, Harry [D]
Nay AZ-6 Flake, Jeff [R]
Yea AZ-7 Grijalva, Raul [D]
Yea AZ-8 Giffords, Gabrielle [D]
Arkansas
Yea AR-1 Berry, Robert [D]
Yea AR-2 Snyder, Victor [D]
Nay AR-3 Boozman, John [R]
Yea AR-4 Ross, Mike [D]
California
Yea CA-1 Thompson, C. [D]
Nay CA-2 Herger, Walter [R]
Nay CA-3 Lungren, Daniel [R]
Nay CA-4 McClintock, Tom [R]
Yea CA-5 Matsui, Doris [D]
Yea CA-6 Woolsey, Lynn [D]
Yea CA-7 Miller, George [D]
Yea CA-9 Lee, Barbara [D]
Yea CA-10 Garamendi, John [D]
Yea CA-11 McNerney, Jerry [D]
Yea CA-12 Speier, Jackie [D]
Yea CA-13 Stark, Fortney [D]
Yea CA-14 Eshoo, Anna [D]
Yea CA-15 Honda, Michael [D]
Yea CA-16 Lofgren, Zoe [D]
Yea CA-17 Farr, Sam [D]
Yea CA-18 Cardoza, Dennis [D]
Not Voting CA-19 Radanovich, George [R]
Yea CA-20 Costa, Jim [D]
Nay CA-21 Nunes, Devin [R]
Nay CA-22 McCarthy, Kevin [R]
Yea CA-23 Capps, Lois [D]
Yea CA-24 Gallegly, Elton [R]
Yea CA-25 McKeon, Howard [R]
Nay CA-26 Dreier, David [R]
Yea CA-27 Sherman, Brad [D]
Yea CA-28 Berman, Howard [D]
Yea CA-29 Schiff, Adam [D]
Yea CA-30 Waxman, Henry [D]
Yea CA-31 Becerra, Xavier [D]
Yea CA-32 Chu, Judy [D]
Yea CA-33 Watson, Diane [D]
Yea CA-34 Roybal-Allard, Lucille [D]
Yea CA-35 Waters, Maxine [D]
Yea CA-36 Harman, Jane [D]
Yea CA-37 Richardson, Laura [D]
Yea CA-38 Napolitano, Grace [D]
Yea CA-39 Sanchez, Linda [D]
Nay CA-40 Royce, Edward [R]
Nay CA-41 Lewis, Jerry [R]
Nay CA-42 Miller, Gary [R]
Yea CA-43 Baca, Joe [D]
Nay CA-44 Calvert, Ken [R]
Nay CA-45 Bono Mack, Mary [R]
Nay CA-46 Rohrabacher, Dana [R]
Yea CA-47 Sanchez, Loretta [D]
Nay CA-48 Campbell, John [R]
Not Voting CA-49 Issa, Darrell [R]
Nay CA-50 Bilbray, Brian [R]
Yea CA-51 Filner, Bob [D]
Nay CA-52 Hunter, Duncan [R]
Yea CA-53 Davis, Susan [D]
Colorado
Yea CO-1 DeGette, Diana [D]
Yea CO-2 Polis, Jared [D]
Yea CO-3 Salazar, John [D]
Yea CO-4 Markey, Betsy [D]
Nay CO-5 Lamborn, Doug [R]
Nay CO-6 Coffman, Mike [R]
Yea CO-7 Perlmutter, Ed [D]
Connecticut
Yea CT-1 Larson, John [D]
Yea CT-2 Courtney, Joe [D]
Yea CT-3 DeLauro, Rosa [D]
Yea CT-4 Himes, James [D]
Yea CT-5 Murphy, Christopher [D]
Delaware
Nay DE-0 Castle, Michael [R]
Florida
Nay FL-1 Miller, Jeff [R]
Yea FL-2 Boyd, Allen [D]
Yea FL-3 Brown, Corrine [D]
Nay FL-4 Crenshaw, Ander [R]
Not Voting FL-5 Brown-Waite, Virginia [R]
Nay FL-6 Stearns, Clifford [R]
Nay FL-7 Mica, John [R]
Yea FL-8 Grayson, Alan [D]
Nay FL-9 Bilirakis, Gus [R]
Nay FL-10 Young, C. W. [R]
Yea FL-11 Castor, Kathy [D]
Not Voting FL-12 Putnam, Adam [R]
Nay FL-13 Buchanan, Vern [R]
Nay FL-14 Mack, Connie [R]
Nay FL-15 Posey, Bill [R]
Nay FL-16 Rooney, Thomas [R]
Yea FL-17 Meek, Kendrick [D]
Not Voting FL-18 Ros-Lehtinen, Ileana [R]
Not Voting FL-19 Deutch, Ted [D]
Yea FL-20 Wasserman Schultz, Debbie [D]
Yea FL-21 Diaz-Balart, Lincoln [R]
Yea FL-22 Klein, Ron [D]
Not Voting FL-23 Hastings, Alcee [D]
Yea FL-24 Kosmas, Suzanne [D]
Yea FL-25 Diaz-Balart, Mario [R]
Georgia
Nay GA-1 Kingston, Jack [R]
Yea GA-2 Bishop, Sanford [D]
Nay GA-3 Westmoreland, Lynn [R]
Yea GA-4 Johnson, Henry [D]
Yea GA-5 Lewis, John [D]
Nay GA-6 Price, Tom [R]
Nay GA-7 Linder, John [R]
Yea GA-8 Marshall, James [D]
Nay GA-9 Graves, Tom [R]
Nay GA-10 Broun, Paul [R]
Nay GA-11 Gingrey, John [R]
Yea GA-12 Barrow, John [D]
Yea GA-13 Scott, David [D]
Hawaii
Yea HI-1 Djou, Charles [R]
Yea HI-2 Hirono, Mazie [D]
Idaho
Yea ID-1 Minnick, Walter [D]
Yea ID-2 Simpson, Michael [R]
Illinois
Yea IL-1 Rush, Bobby [D]
Yea IL-2 Jackson, Jesse [D]
Yea IL-3 Lipinski, Daniel [D]
Yea IL-4 Gutierrez, Luis [D]
Yea IL-5 Quigley, Mike [D]
Nay IL-6 Roskam, Peter [R]
Yea IL-7 Davis, Danny [D]
Yea IL-8 Bean, Melissa [D]
Not Voting IL-9 Schakowsky, Janice [D]
Yea IL-11 Halvorson, Deborah [D]
Yea IL-12 Costello, Jerry [D]
Nay IL-13 Biggert, Judy [R]
Yea IL-14 Foster, Bill [D]
Nay IL-15 Johnson, Timothy [R]
Nay IL-16 Manzullo, Donald [R]
Yea IL-17 Hare, Phil [D]
Nay IL-18 Schock, Aaron [R]
Nay IL-19 Shimkus, John [R]
Indiana
Yea IN-1 Visclosky, Peter [D]
Yea IN-2 Donnelly, Joe [D]
Nay IN-3 Stutzman, Marlin [R]
Not Voting IN-4 Buyer, Stephen [R]
Not Voting IN-5 Burton, Dan [R]
Nay IN-6 Pence, Mike [R]
Yea IN-7 Carson, André [D]
Yea IN-8 Ellsworth, Brad [D]
Yea IN-9 Hill, Baron [D]
Iowa
Yea IA-1 Braley, Bruce [D]
Yea IA-2 Loebsack, David [D]
Yea IA-3 Boswell, Leonard [D]
Nay IA-4 Latham, Thomas [R]
Nay IA-5 King, Steve [R]
Kansas
Not Voting KS-1 Moran, Jerry [R]
Nay KS-2 Jenkins, Lynn [R]
Yea KS-3 Moore, Dennis [D]
Nay KS-4 Tiahrt, Todd [R]
Kentucky
Nay KY-1 Whitfield, Edward [R]
Nay KY-2 Guthrie, Brett [R]
Yea KY-3 Yarmuth, John [D]
Nay KY-4 Davis, Geoff [R]
Nay KY-5 Rogers, Harold [R]
Yea KY-6 Chandler, Ben [D]
Louisiana
Nay LA-1 Scalise, Steve [R]
Nay LA-2 Cao, Anh [R]
Yea LA-3 Melancon, Charles [D]
Nay LA-4 Fleming, John [R]
Nay LA-5 Alexander, Rodney [R]
Yea LA-6 Cassidy, Bill [R]
Nay LA-7 Boustany, Charles [R]
Maine
Yea ME-1 Pingree, Chellie [D]
Yea ME-2 Michaud, Michael [D]
Maryland
Yea MD-1 Kratovil, Frank [D]
Yea MD-2 Ruppersberger, C.A. [D]
Yea MD-3 Sarbanes, John [D]
Yea MD-4 Edwards, Donna [D]
Yea MD-5 Hoyer, Steny [D]
Nay MD-6 Bartlett, Roscoe [R]
Yea MD-7 Cummings, Elijah [D]
Yea MD-8 Van Hollen, Christopher [D]
Massachusetts
Yea MA-1 Olver, John [D]
Yea MA-2 Neal, Richard [D]
Yea MA-3 McGovern, James [D]
Yea MA-4 Frank, Barney [D]
Not Voting MA-5 Tsongas, Niki [D]
Yea MA-6 Tierney, John [D]
Yea MA-7 Markey, Edward [D]
Yea MA-8 Capuano, Michael [D]
Yea MA-9 Lynch, Stephen [D]
Yea MA-10 Delahunt, William [D]
Michigan
Yea MI-1 Stupak, Bart [D]
Nay MI-2 Hoekstra, Peter [R]
Nay MI-3 Ehlers, Vernon [R]
Nay MI-4 Camp, David [R]
Yea MI-5 Kildee, Dale [D]
Nay MI-6 Upton, Frederick [R]
Yea MI-7 Schauer, Mark [D]
Nay MI-8 Rogers, Michael [R]
Yea MI-9 Peters, Gary [D]
Nay MI-10 Miller, Candice [R]
Nay MI-11 McCotter, Thaddeus [R]
Yea MI-12 Levin, Sander [D]
Yea MI-13 Kilpatrick, Carolyn [D]
Yea MI-14 Conyers, John [D]
Yea MI-15 Dingell, John [D]
Minnesota
Yea MN-1 Walz, Timothy [D]
Nay MN-2 Kline, John [R]
Nay MN-3 Paulsen, Erik [R]
Yea MN-4 McCollum, Betty [D]
Yea MN-5 Ellison, Keith [D]
Nay MN-6 Bachmann, Michele [R]
Yea MN-7 Peterson, Collin [D]
Yea MN-8 Oberstar, James [D]
Mississippi
Yea MS-1 Childers, Travis [D]
Yea MS-2 Thompson, Bennie [D]
Yea MS-3 Harper, Gregg [R]
Nay MS-4 Taylor, Gene [D]
Missouri
Yea MO-1 Clay, William [D]
Nay MO-2 Akin, W. [R]
Yea MO-3 Carnahan, Russ [D]
Yea MO-4 Skelton, Ike [D]
Yea MO-5 Cleaver, Emanuel [D]
Nay MO-6 Graves, Samuel [R]
Nay MO-7 Blunt, Roy [R]
Yea MO-8 Emerson, Jo Ann [R]
Nay MO-9 Luetkemeyer, Blaine [R]
Montana
Nay MT-0 Rehberg, Dennis [R]
Nebraska
Nay NE-1 Fortenberry, Jeffrey [R]
Nay NE-2 Terry, Lee [R]
Nay NE-3 Smith, Adrian [R]
Nevada
Yea NV-1 Berkley, Shelley [D]
Nay NV-2 Heller, Dean [R]
Yea NV-3 Titus, Dina [D]
New Hampshire
Yea NH-1 Shea-Porter, Carol [D]
Yea NH-2 Hodes, Paul [D]
New Jersey
Yea NJ-1 Andrews, Robert [D]
Nay NJ-2 LoBiondo, Frank [R]
Yea NJ-3 Adler, John [D]
Nay NJ-4 Smith, Christopher [R]
Nay NJ-5 Garrett, Scott [R]
Yea NJ-6 Pallone, Frank [D]
Nay NJ-7 Lance, Leonard [R]
Yea NJ-8 Pascrell, William [D]
Yea NJ-9 Rothman, Steven [D]
Yea NJ-10 Payne, Donald [D]
Nay NJ-11 Frelinghuysen, Rodney [R]
Yea NJ-12 Holt, Rush [D]
Yea NJ-13 Sires, Albio [D]
New Mexico
Yea NM-1 Heinrich, Martin [D]
Yea NM-2 Teague, Harry [D]
Yea NM-3 Lujan, Ben [D]
New York
Yea NY-1 Bishop, Timothy [D]
Yea NY-2 Israel, Steve [D]
Nay NY-3 King, Peter [R]
Yea NY-4 McCarthy, Carolyn [D]
Yea NY-5 Ackerman, Gary [D]
Yea NY-6 Meeks, Gregory [D]
Yea NY-7 Crowley, Joseph [D]
Yea NY-8 Nadler, Jerrold [D]
Yea NY-9 Weiner, Anthony [D]
Yea NY-10 Towns, Edolphus [D]
Yea NY-11 Clarke, Yvette [D]
Yea NY-12 Velazquez, Nydia [D]
Yea NY-13 McMahon, Michael [D]
Yea NY-14 Maloney, Carolyn [D]
Yea NY-15 Rangel, Charles [D]
Yea NY-16 Serrano, José [D]
Yea NY-17 Engel, Eliot [D]
Yea NY-18 Lowey, Nita [D]
Yea NY-19 Hall, John [D]
Yea NY-20 Murphy, Scott [D]
Yea NY-21 Tonko, Paul [D]
Yea NY-22 Hinchey, Maurice [D]
Yea NY-23 Owens, William [D]
Yea NY-24 Arcuri, Michael [D]
Yea NY-25 Maffei, Daniel [D]
Nay NY-26 Lee, Christopher [R]
Yea NY-27 Higgins, Brian [D]
Yea NY-28 Slaughter, Louise [D]
Nay NY-29 Reed, Tom [R]
North Carolina
Yea NC-1 Butterfield, George [D]
Yea NC-2 Etheridge, Bob [D]
Nay NC-3 Jones, Walter [R]
Yea NC-4 Price, David [D]
Nay NC-5 Foxx, Virginia [R]
Nay NC-6 Coble, Howard [R]
Yea NC-7 McIntyre, Mike [D]
Yea NC-8 Kissell, Larry [D]
Not Voting NC-9 Myrick, Sue [R]
Nay NC-10 McHenry, Patrick [R]
Yea NC-11 Shuler, Heath [D]
Yea NC-12 Watt, Melvin [D]
Yea NC-13 Miller, R. [D]
North Dakota
Yea ND-0 Pomeroy, Earl [D]
Ohio
Yea OH-1 Driehaus, Steve [D]
Nay OH-2 Schmidt, Jean [R]
Nay OH-3 Turner, Michael [R]
Nay OH-4 Jordan, Jim [R]
Nay OH-5 Latta, Robert [R]
Yea OH-6 Wilson, Charles [D]
Nay OH-7 Austria, Steve [R]
Nay OH-8 Boehner, John [R]
Yea OH-9 Kaptur, Marcy [D]
Yea OH-10 Kucinich, Dennis [D]
Yea OH-11 Fudge, Marcia [D]
Nay OH-12 Tiberi, Patrick [R]
Yea OH-13 Sutton, Betty [D]
Yea OH-14 LaTourette, Steven [R]
Yea OH-15 Kilroy, Mary Jo [D]
Yea OH-16 Boccieri, John [D]
Yea OH-17 Ryan, Timothy [D]
Not Voting OH-18 Space, Zachary [D]
Oklahoma
Yea OK-1 Sullivan, John [R]
Yea OK-2 Boren, Dan [D]
Nay OK-3 Lucas, Frank [R]
Yea OK-4 Cole, Tom [R]
Not Voting OK-5 Fallin, Mary [R]
Oregon
Not Voting OR-1 Wu, David [D]
Nay OR-2 Walden, Greg [R]
Yea OR-3 Blumenauer, Earl [D]
Not Voting OR-4 DeFazio, Peter [D]
Yea OR-5 Schrader, Kurt [D]
Pennsylvania
Yea PA-1 Brady, Robert [D]
Yea PA-2 Fattah, Chaka [D]
Yea PA-3 Dahlkemper, Kathleen [D]
Yea PA-4 Altmire, Jason [D]
Nay PA-5 Thompson, Glenn [R]
Nay PA-6 Gerlach, Jim [R]
Yea PA-7 Sestak, Joe [D]
Yea PA-8 Murphy, Patrick [D]
Nay PA-9 Shuster, William [R]
Not Voting PA-10 Carney, Christopher [D]
Yea PA-11 Kanjorski, Paul [D]
Yea PA-12 Critz, Mark [D]
Yea PA-13 Schwartz, Allyson [D]
Yea PA-14 Doyle, Michael [D]
Nay PA-15 Dent, Charles [R]
Nay PA-16 Pitts, Joseph [R]
Yea PA-17 Holden, Tim [D]
Yea PA-18 Murphy, Tim [R]
Nay PA-19 Platts, Todd [R]
Rhode Island
Yea RI-1 Kennedy, Patrick [D]
Yea RI-2 Langevin, James [D]
South Carolina
Nay SC-1 Brown, Henry [R]
Nay SC-2 Wilson, Addison [R]
Not Voting SC-3 Barrett, James [R]
Nay SC-4 Inglis, Bob [R]
Yea SC-5 Spratt, John [D]
Yea SC-6 Clyburn, James [D]
South Dakota
Yea SD-0 Herseth Sandlin, Stephanie [D]
Tennessee
Nay TN-1 Roe, Phil [R]
Nay TN-2 Duncan, John [R]
Not Voting TN-3 Wamp, Zach [R]
Yea TN-4 Davis, Lincoln [D]
Nay TN-5 Cooper, Jim [D]
Yea TN-6 Gordon, Barton [D]
Nay TN-7 Blackburn, Marsha [R]
Yea TN-8 Tanner, John [D]
Yea TN-9 Cohen, Steve [D]
Texas
Nay TX-1 Gohmert, Louis [R]
Nay TX-2 Poe, Ted [R]
Nay TX-3 Johnson, Samuel [R]
Nay TX-4 Hall, Ralph [R]
Nay TX-5 Hensarling, Jeb [R]
Nay TX-6 Barton, Joe [R]
Nay TX-7 Culberson, John [R]
Nay TX-8 Brady, Kevin [R]
Yea TX-9 Green, Al [D]
Nay TX-10 McCaul, Michael [R]
Nay TX-11 Conaway, K. [R]
Nay TX-12 Granger, Kay [R]
Nay TX-13 Thornberry, William [R]
Nay TX-14 Paul, Ronald [R]
Yea TX-15 Hinojosa, Rubén [D]
Yea TX-16 Reyes, Silvestre [D]
Yea TX-17 Edwards, Thomas [D]
Yea TX-18 Jackson-Lee, Sheila [D]
Not Voting TX-19 Neugebauer, Randy [R]
Not Voting TX-20 Gonzalez, Charles [D]
Nay TX-21 Smith, Lamar [R]
Nay TX-22 Olson, Pete [R]
Yea TX-23 Rodriguez, Ciro [D]
Not Voting TX-24 Marchant, Kenny [R]
Yea TX-25 Doggett, Lloyd [D]
Nay TX-26 Burgess, Michael [R]
Not Voting TX-27 Ortiz, Solomon [D]
Yea TX-28 Cuellar, Henry [D]
Yea TX-29 Green, Raymond [D]
Yea TX-30 Johnson, Eddie [D]
Nay TX-31 Carter, John [R]
Nay TX-32 Sessions, Peter [R]
Utah
Nay UT-1 Bishop, Rob [R]
Yea UT-2 Matheson, Jim [D]
Nay UT-3 Chaffetz, Jason [R]
Vermont
Yea VT-0 Welch, Peter [D]
Virginia
Nay VA-1 Wittman, Rob [R]
Yea VA-2 Nye, Glenn [D]
Yea VA-3 Scott, Robert [D]
Nay VA-4 Forbes, J. [R]
Yea VA-5 Perriello, Thomas [D]
Nay VA-6 Goodlatte, Robert [R]
Nay VA-7 Cantor, Eric [R]
Yea VA-8 Moran, James [D]
Not Voting VA-9 Boucher, Frederick [D]
Nay VA-10 Wolf, Frank [R]
Yea VA-11 Connolly, Gerald [D]
Washington
Yea WA-1 Inslee, Jay [D]
Yea WA-2 Larsen, Rick [D]
Yea WA-3 Baird, Brian [D]
Nay WA-4 Hastings, Doc [R]
Nay WA-5 McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [R]
Yea WA-6 Dicks, Norman [D]
Yea WA-7 McDermott, James [D]
Nay WA-8 Reichert, Dave [R]
Yea WA-9 Smith, Adam [D]
West Virginia
Yea WV-1 Mollohan, Alan [D]
Nay WV-2 Capito, Shelley [R]
Yea WV-3 Rahall, Nick [D]
Wisconsin
Nay WI-1 Ryan, Paul [R]
Yea WI-2 Baldwin, Tammy [D]
Yea WI-3 Kind, Ronald [D]
Yea WI-4 Moore, Gwen [D]
Nay WI-5 Sensenbrenner, F. [R]
Nay WI-6 Petri, Thomas [R]
Yea WI-7 Obey, David [D]
Yea WI-8 Kagen, Steve [D]
Wyoming
Yea WY-0 Lummis, Cynthia [R]
54 Comments
  1. Kill Bill says:

    Actually 3.5 billion is going to American Indians and 1.1 billion to 33k black farmers.

    The trial lawyers, of course, will be reaping a substantial amount as well.

    9th December 2010 at 11:58 am

  2. Tampa Gold says:

    USDA’s Pigford case: More claims than Black farmers
    By Sara Wyant
    © Copyright Agri-Pulse Communications, Inc.
    Washington, May 27– “The Pigford case is controversial, and always will be.”
    That statement, made by Attorney Alex Pires during a House Judiciary Subcommittee hearing
    six years ago could not be truer today. As part of a April 14, 1999 class action case settlement,
    commonly known as the Pigford case, U.S. taxpayers have already provided over $1 billion in
    cash, non-credit awards and debt relief to almost 16,000 black farmers who claimed that they
    were discriminated against by USDA officials as they “farmed or attempted to farm.” In
    addition, USDA’s Farm Service Agency spent over $166 million on salaries and expenses on this
    case from 1999-2009, according to agency records.
    Members of Congress may approve another $1.15 billion this week to settle cases from what
    some estimate may be an additional 80,000 African-Americans who have also claimed to have
    been discriminated against by USDA staff.
    It’s an emotional and racially-charged issue, especially for John Boyd Jr., the head of the
    National Black Farmers Association, who has fought tirelessly on behalf of his fellow farmers.
    Boyd says many of the farmers seeking help are elderly and may not live to see these cases
    resolved.
    “We needed $2.5 billion, but I didn’t want to tie us up in federal court anymore,” Boyd told
    Agri-Pulse during an interview earlier this year. “I looked at the faces in the South and these
    people are old. That made me say, hey, let’s settle this case and let’s get the money to the
    farmers and help as many as we can.” He estimated that only about half of the 80,000 farmers
    seeking restitution will eventually get it.
    Settling this case is clearly a priority for the White House and USDA. Secretary Vilsack
    described the funding agreement reached between the Administration and advocates for black
    farmers early this year as “an important milestone in putting these discriminatory claims behind
    us for good and in achieving finality for this group of farmers with longstanding grievances.”
    However, confronted with the skyrocketing federal deficit, more officials are taking a critical
    look at the billion dollars spent thus far and wondering when these discrimination cases will ever
    end. Already, the number of people who have been paid and are still seeking payment will
    likely exceed the 26,785 black farmers who were considered to even be operating back in
    1997, according to USDA. That’s the year the case initially began as Pigford v. (then Agriculture
    Secretary) Glickman and sources predicted that, at most, 3,000 might qualify.
    At least one source who is extremely familiar with the issue and who asked to remain
    anonymous because of potential retribution, says there are a number of legitimate cases who
    have long been denied their payments and will benefit from the additional funding. But many
    more appear to have been solicited in an attempt to “game” the Pigford system. For example, our
    http://www.Agri-Pulse.com 2
    source said a large number of late filers had similar zip codes in large Ohio cities, suggesting a
    door to door effort might have taken place to find likely candidates.
    Last summer, Agri-Pulse attempted to verify these allegations. We filed a Freedom of
    Information Act (FOIA) request, asking USDA to provide
    the names and locations of those individuals who had
    received payments under all of the Pigford cases, both Track
    A and Track B, including the late filers. However, unlike the
    farm program payment data released by USDA and
    published by the Environmental Working Group on their
    website, the agency denied access to the Pigford information,
    citing an “unwarranted invasion of personal privacy.”
    The agency did provide the total number of claims by state
    for cases that have already been decided as of June 30, 2009.
    (See table on left.) This data does not include information
    on the late filers who could presumably be covered by the
    additional $1.25 billion.
    As the table indicates, Alabama and Mississippi had the
    largest number of payment recipients under “Track A” which
    provided a flat $50,000 fee —plus relief in the form of loan
    forgiveness and offsets of tax liability ($12,500). These
    numbers seem to correspond with the outreach conducted
    and the large number of black farmers in those states. (See
    map)
    However, in Illinois, 163 people received checks under the
    Pigford I settlement as of last year, even though Ag Census
    data from 2002 indicates there were only 78 black or African
    American operators in the state.
    USDA sources say the location of the check recipient may
    not be indicative of where the Pigford class member
    farmed or attempted to farm. The claimant may have been
    denied access to USDA programs, given up farming and
    moved to another state.
    This could explain why 14 individuals in Washington, D.C.
    received payments as a result of the Pigford case. Another
    possible reason for the variance in numbers between the Ag
    Census and the Pigford cases is that multiple individuals
    could be farming together, even though only one operator
    was identified by the Census.
    Pigford Track A Claimants by
    State who received payments as
    of 7-1-09
    AL 3445
    AR 1532
    AZ 3
    CA 140
    CO 8
    CT 6
    DC 14
    DE 2
    FL 273
    GA 1957
    HI 1
    ID 1
    IL 163
    IN 15
    KS 26
    KY 64
    LA 591
    MA 3
    MD 36
    MI 81
    MN 3
    MO 81
    MS 3193
    NC 1349
    NE 2
    NJ 35
    NY 40
    OH 22
    OK 607
    PA 15
    SC 892
    TN 474
    TX 302
    UT 1
    VA 178
    VI 28
    WA 3
    WI 15
    Total 15,601
    http://www.Agri-Pulse.com 3
    USDA tried to address the potential for undercounting in the 2002 Ag Census. In addition to the
    principal operator, information was gathered on up to two additional operators for the first time
    that year. When three operators per farm could be reported, a total of 30,605 farms in the U.S.
    had Black or African-American operators in 2002. The 2007 Census reported 32, 938 farms
    operated by African-Americans.
    If the Ag Census data is correct, there still seems to be a disconnect between the number of
    people filing Pigford claims and the number of black farmers in the U.S.
    No guarantees
    There is no guarantee that anyone who claims to have been discriminated against and files a
    claim will be awarded a payment under the Pigford class action suit or the Consolidated Black
    Farmers Discrimination Litigation, authorized by Section 14012 of the 2008 Farm Bill.
    The consent decree set up a system for notice, claims submission, consideration, and review that
    involves a facilitator, arbitrator, adjudicator, and monitor, all with associated checks and
    balances. Under Pigford I, 69%, or 15,638 of the 22,549 of the Track A claims were approved,
    as of May 11, 2010, according to the Pigfordmonitor.org
    The majority of farms owned by Black or African-American farmers are located the South
    with the highest percentage of principal farm operators in Mississippi, according to the
    2007 Census of Agriculture. Source: USDA.
    http://www.Agri-Pulse.com 4
    Under the Pigford consent decree, an eligible recipient is an African-American who:
    1. Farmed or attempted to farm between January 1981 and December 31, 1996,
    2. Applied to USDA for farm credit or program benefits and believes that he or she was
    discriminated against by the USDA on the basis of race, and
    3. Made a complaint against the USDA on or before July 1, 1997.
    The Pigford consent decree establishes a two-track dispute resolution mechanism for
    those seeking relief, according to the Congressional Research Service report, “The Pigford Case:
    USDA Settlement of a Discrimination Suit by Black Farmers.”
    The most widely-used option—Track A—provides a monetary settlement of
    $50,000 plus relief in the form of loan forgiveness and offsets of tax liability. Track A claimants
    had to present substantial evidence (i.e., a reasonable basis for finding that discrimination
    happened) that the loan was denied, provided late, approved for a lesser amount than requested,
    encumbered by restrictive conditions, or USDA failed to provide appropriate loan
    service, and such treatment was less favorable than that accorded specifically
    identified, similarly situated white farmers; and the USDA’s treatment of the loan application led
    to economic damage to the class member.
    Under Track B, there is a higher burden of proof and the potential for a much higher payment.
    Track B claimants had to prove their claims and actual damages by a preponderance of the
    evidence. The documentation was reviewed by a third party arbitrator, who made a binding
    decision. The consent decree also provided injunctive relief, primarily in the form of priority
    consideration for loans and purchases, and technical assistance in filling out forms, according to
    the CRS report. As of January 12, 2010, the CRS reported that there were 172 eligible Track B
    claimants.
    According to USDA data obtained by Agri-Pulse under a FOIA request, Track B payments have
    ranged from $25,000 to over $625,000.
    Not enough time?
    The opportunity to participate in the Pigford class action case was publicized in a variety of
    traditionally black media outlets and through a series of meetings across the South. According to
    testimony from Attorney Alex Pires, at least 42 meetings were held in Alabama alone. In 1998,
    USDA’s Farm Service Agency provided $40,000 to the National Black Farmers Association to
    provide training and technical assistance, according to FSA records.
    Still, the Black Farmers Association has long complained that there was not sufficient time or
    notice for farmers to file claims. Under the original consent decree, claimants were to file their
    claim within 180 days of the consent decree, or no later than October 12, 1999.
    The Court extended the deadline to September 15, 2000, but only for claimants who could show
    that “extraordinary circumstances,” such as damages incurred from Hurricane Floyd or medical
    problems prohibited them from filing claims.
    http://www.Agri-Pulse.com 5
    Approximately 73,800 Pigford II petitions were filed under the late filing procedure, but only
    66,000 were received on time…..that is, before the September 15, 2000 late filing deadline,
    according to the CRS report.
    Approximately 58,000 claimants who filed claims after the October 12, 1999 deadline, but
    before the September 15, 2000 “late-filing” cut-off, never had their discrimination claims
    resolved because they failed to meet the “extraordinary circumstances” test for the filing of late
    claims, according to the Black Farmer Claims website.
    Frustrated by the delays, the Black Farmers and Agriculturalists Association (BFAA) filed a
    $20.5 billion class action lawsuit in September 2004 on behalf of roughly 25,000 farmers against
    the USDA for alleged racial discriminatory practices against black farmers between January
    1997 and August 2004. The lawsuit, however, was dismissed in March 2005 because BFAA
    failed to show it had standing to bring the suit.
    Congress stepped in to remedy the situation, introducing the Pigford Claims Remedy Act of
    2007 and the African-American Farmers Benefits Relief Act of 2007, providing relief for those
    that previously filed a Pigford discrimination lawsuit, but were denied as a result of late-filing.
    Those measures were included in the 2008 Farm Bill and authorized up to $100 million for
    potential settlement costs.
    On February 18, 2010, Attorney General Eric Holder and Secretary of Agriculture Tom Vilsack
    announced a settlement of these so-called Pigford II claims, which, if funds are appropriated,
    would bring the total to $1.25 billion and presumably be enough to settle all of the remaining
    claims.
    Foreclosures Completed FY 2003-2008 Total by Race by Year
    FISCAL YEAR White
    African
    American Asian/PI
    American
    Indian Hispanic Total
    2003 275 9 5 2 20 311
    2004 253 10 2 14 19 298
    2005 196 15 0 6 12 229
    2006 159 24 4 2 9 198
    2007 115 21 3 2 9 150
    2008 111 26 5 7 19 168
    Source: USDA/FSA FOIA request by Agri-Pulse.
    For some farmers unable to repay USDA loans, foreclosures continue. However, USDA’s
    Farm Service Agency has changed their procedures in an attempt to prevent
    discrimination. Since 1997, USDA’s Farm Service Agency has required all foreclosure
    cases to be reviewed and cleared by its civil rights staff working at state offices. Under the
    2008 Farm Bill, Congress directed the Office of Inspector General to determine whether
    or not foreclosure proceedings involving socially-disadvantaged farmers from 2003-2008
    were consistent and in conformity with actual laws. The OIG found that FSA’s process
    was indeed consistent and conformed with the laws. “Morever, when we compared how
    FSA restructured and foreclosed loans to socially disadvantaged and non-socially
    disadvantaged borrowers, we found that the borrowers were processed consistently.
    http://www.Agri-Pulse.com 6
    “Putting this behind us will allow
    USDA to focus on the future,”
    emphasized Vilsack in an interview
    earlier this year. “It will help sociallydisadvantaged
    farmers become and
    remain successful in their efforts to
    farm. And hopefully it sends a strong
    message about the new direction for
    USDA.”
    Secretary Vilsack has been focused on
    addressing a wide variety of civil rights
    issues, both in the field with customers
    and internally, at USDA headquarters.
    As one of his first orders of business
    after being confirmed, Secretary Vilsack
    issued a memo proclaiming “A new
    Civil Rights Era for USDA” in which he
    vowed to address about 3,000
    complaints that had yet to be processed
    and to “move USDA into a new era as a
    model employer and premier service
    provider.”
    A Government Accountability Office
    (GAO) report issued in May 2008 found
    that management of civil rights
    complaints by the USDA “continues to
    be deficient despite years of attention.”
    Vilsack’s memo incorporated many of
    GAO’s suggestions.
    USDA’s renewed focus on civil rights is a mixed blessing for some of the folks who work at an
    agency, originally founded as “the People’s Department.” An employee who only agreed to
    speak on a confidential basis told Agri-Pulse:
    “Some people think that our agency is the last plantation, that we have systemic bigotry. It really
    hurts morale in the agency and recruitment efforts. Why would a minority candidate want to
    work here after all they have heard? ”
    To help document improvements in civil rights cases within USDA, Agri-Pulse filed another
    FOIA on July 2, 2009, requesting additional information on the number of minorities employed
    in the agency and civil rights cases filed from 1997 to present. Agency staff acknowledged
    receipt of our request, but almost 11 months later, no formal response has been received.
    For more information, go to: http://www.Agri-Pulse.com

    9th December 2010 at 12:12 pm

  3. Tampa Gold says:

    12 black farmers in Washington DC will get paid.

    (I did not know that shoveling manure from the congress critters pens constituted ‘farming.’)

    snark/sarcasm/disgust

    9th December 2010 at 12:16 pm

  4. Kill Bill says:

    I wonder what Bernankes cut will be for printing 4.6 billion…

    9th December 2010 at 12:22 pm

  5. Centerfield says:

    Sweet! New John Deeres for everyone with dark skin and acreage! Chalk this one up to more mis-guided stimulus. Maybe the indians will put some of the money toward alcoholism treatment programs? No, they wouldn’t do that because they already have a hundred government programs to fund those.

    9th December 2010 at 1:00 pm

  6. Reverse Engineer says:

    A few years back the SCOTUS awarded the Lakota $600M in “Reparations” for the FSoA stealing the Black Hills. The award remains Uncollected, as the Lakota refuse to take the Toilet Paper as payment for their land.

    What will $4.6B of Benny Bucks buy when dstributed out over a these people? What is it, maybe $100/person? Its nothing, chump change. The SNAP program already runs around $50B, and THAT is Chump Change.

    You want to get worked up about money being handed over to undeserving people? Work yourseff up to the TRILLIONS handed out to Capitalist Banksters. Now you are talking about REAL MONEY.

    This kind of divisive article is precisely what you get out of dumb asses like Rush Limbaugh. I am surprised at you Jimmy boy, usually you aen’t such a cheap shi Conservative propagandist. Usually you do a better job pitching the shit.

    RE

    9th December 2010 at 1:31 pm

  7. howie didder says:

    apparently no one in usa has been paying attention to the shitstorm of never ending litigation and payments to these fuckin savages in canada. once the can of precedent setting reforms are established these leeches never go away.
    Years ago some band near Seattle saw the successes of their bretheren to the north and said they wanted to start with the land claim issues as well-they were told that we would rather go to war again than pay the claims–THAT WAS THE CORRECT ANSWER THEN AND STILL IS NOW.

    9th December 2010 at 2:00 pm

  8. Administrator says:

    RE

    The middle class gets fucked from both sides. I present the FSA side and the Capitialist Pig Banker side. You choose only one side.

    9th December 2010 at 2:11 pm

  9. Administrator says:

    RE

    Are you an Indian or a black farmer?

    9th December 2010 at 2:11 pm

  10. Administrator says:

    Howie

    I like your name choice.

    9th December 2010 at 2:12 pm

  11. Reverse Engineer says:

    I think the weighting of blame shoud be proportionate to who is getting the most Welfare Money. Since the Capitalist Banksters receive about $100 for every $1 the FSA receives, I would say we need a 100:1 ratio of articles here denouncing the Capitalist Pigmen in our society. However, your posting tends to be weighted with more articles about the 30 Blocks of Squaor, which you post at least once a week complete with the picture of the Fat Black Chick. I weight my posting in the opposite direction to balace out your periodic descent into Rush Limbaughisms and pandering to the conservative dimwits who popuate this board.

    RE

    9th December 2010 at 2:27 pm

  12. Reverse Engineer says:

    I gotta get a new keyboard. I have burned out too many keys.

    RE

    9th December 2010 at 2:28 pm

  13. Administrator says:

    RE

    If you add up the free shit given away to the FSA since 1965, it would be on par with the take of the criminal bankers.

    The 30 Blocks of Squalor is factual.

    The crimes committed by Wall Street are factual.

    I just report the facts. You have an agenda.

    9th December 2010 at 2:36 pm

  14. Reverse Engineer says:

    ROFLMAOPIMP. I have an Agenda and you DON’T?

    I will remember that the next time you go on one of your rants about dumb shit Liberal Academics or how you mop the floor with the Liberals on Naked Capitalism. Remind me about your not having an Agenda the next time you lay into the “People of Walmart”. Good grief Jim, your agenda is plain as day, you find the lower class of black people who ive in the 30 Blocks of Squalor and other slums like it to be repulsive and to blame for our economic problems. This is in the subtext of just about everyone of your diatribes, besides the Fourth Turning stuff, which is a bit more even handed.

    Anyhow, from one spin doctor to another, don’t be disingenuous. You got an Agenda, so do I.

    RE

    9th December 2010 at 2:45 pm

  15. Tampa Gold says:

    I think RE analysis part of his/her’s brain is on the fritz.

    Did we forget to take our meds today?

    9th December 2010 at 2:56 pm

  16. mikeinaz says:

    RE (guy who can’t do math) – approximately $33,333 per farmer, a slight touch more than $100. Division is a wonderful thing.

    9th December 2010 at 2:57 pm

  17. Reverse Engineer says:

    That only included the “at least” 300,000 Injuns, and the at least 120,000 Black Farmers. Ha any distribution method been discussed here? Who is going to get the payouts? And let’s not forget the Legal Fees to the shysters that prosecuted this case. Let me know when anybody gets $33K.

    RE

    9th December 2010 at 3:09 pm

  18. Administrator says:

    RE

    My agenda is simple. To try and leave a country worth living in for my sons. My mission statement on TBP #1 still stands:

    My goal is to provide my readers with a wide eyed view of the world. I will concentrate on social and economic issues that I feel are important to the country. My commentary will be blunt and pointed. The country needs people to see things as they are, not as they wish them to be. I’m trying to do my part in keeping our country from experiencing a Roman Empire like decline. Burning platform refers to David Walker’s description of the United States government as on a “burning platform” of unsustainable policies and practices with fiscal deficits, expensive over-commitments to government provided health care, swelling Medicare costs, the enormous expense of a prospective universal health care system, immigration, and overseas military commitments threatening a crisis if action is not taken soon.

    I can’t help it that you have no family and are bitter and twisted as a result. Good luck with your agenda.

    9th December 2010 at 3:19 pm

  19. Reverse Engineer says:

    “I can’t help it that you have no family and are bitter and twisted as a result. Good luck with your agenda.”

    Wait a few years until the family you have is going hungry. You’ll be even more bitter and twisted than I am not having a family.

    Good luck with your agenda as well.

    RE

    9th December 2010 at 3:26 pm

  20. Administrator says:

    RE

    Maybe you can start a 30 Blocks of Moose Shit series.

    9th December 2010 at 3:26 pm

  21. Administrator says:

    RE’s favorite beer

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    RE describing himself to a bartender

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    RE on a cold winter Alaskan night

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    9th December 2010 at 3:35 pm

  22. Reverse Engineer says:

    We do have quite few trailer parks with “Mat Valley Trash” as the poor foks are referred to around here. Plus down in Anchorage numerous Homeless freeze to death every winter in the parks. Very few black folks up here of course, but plenty of Natives who have been on the Dole their whole lives. I could write about them, but I don’t perceive them as the cause of the probem. They are the RESULT, not the cause.

    RE

    9th December 2010 at 3:36 pm

  23. Robmu1 says:

    RE – since you are such an easy mark, please support my campaign for reparations for:

    Guys Who Don’t Feel Like Working So Send Me Government Money Because I Grew Up With Little Money And People Were Mean To Irish-Italians With Little Money So Obviously The Government Should Give Me Some.

    Appreciate that.

    9th December 2010 at 3:44 pm

  24. Dave says:

    Jim says:
    “I demand reparations for the decline in my house value because the government and Federal Reserve fraudulently manipulated the financial markets.
    •I demand reparations because the Federal Reserve has inflated away 96% of my purchasing power since 1913.
    •I demand reparations for the money taken from my paycheck and pissed away on undeclared wars in foreign countries.
    •I demand reparations for the trillions wasted on the social welfare entitlement programs that have created the 30 Blocks of Squalor and make my commute not nice.”

    I didn’t know you are black.

    9th December 2010 at 5:03 pm

  25. Administrator says:

    Dave

    Yes. I am black, and I’m pissed off.

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    9th December 2010 at 5:25 pm

  26. Goldorack says:

    1°- I demand to see here Smokey’s 11″ white dick (a link, please)
    2°- I demand a blow job from LLPOH on Smokey on youtube, so I can forgive them to be so stupid
    3°- I demand a new record of thumbs down from Smokey, as he’s the only one exept me that can beat his current record. records have to be broken.

    I represent the Goldorack minority on this forum. I demand reparation. I seek for some reasons

    9th December 2010 at 5:51 pm

  27. Goldorack says:

    4″- I demand to have unrestricted access to RE’s 4″ dick to furiously gobble. I love it when he savagely sprays my tonsils with that delicious throat yogurt. MMMMM Good. I love for RE to fudgepack my hershey highway. Re and I are lovers for eternity.

    9th December 2010 at 6:13 pm

  28. howie didder says:

    RE

    Very few black folks up here of course, but plenty of Natives who have been on the Dole their whole lives. I could write about them, but I don’t perceive them as the cause of the probem. They are the RESULT, not the cause

    They are not a result of the problem. They are the problem. They have been on the dole for at least 3 generations. They have no desire or motivation to pull their heads from their assholes. They all want the free shit but don’t want to contribute to anything other than their own way of life. That being the case then they don’t need billions to function either. Hunting and gathering doesn’t cost much. If they wanna live in houses with heat, drive vehicles, hunt from snowmobiles then get a fuckin JOB like the rest of us. Why should i work my snatch off for some piece of shit that couldn’t care less for me. They hate the white man and we are supposed to love and pay for them forever.

    You obviously rattled your fuckin brain loose from too many years behind the wheel talkin to yourself if you belive they are owed. Dumbfuck!

    9th December 2010 at 7:12 pm

  29. Dave says:

    I’m thinking RE was reverse engineered from a turd pile?

    9th December 2010 at 7:16 pm

  30. howie didder says:

    I used to think Smokey was a little hard on RE but what a piece of shit..

    9th December 2010 at 7:23 pm

  31. cahuitabeachbound says:

    Goldorack:

    I have a sybian I haven’t yet given to my receptionist that you can incorporate into you designs with RE.

    9th December 2010 at 7:51 pm

  32. Administrator says:

    Smokey

    White people were saving blacks during Katrina.

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    9th December 2010 at 8:48 pm

  33. Administrator says:

    Smokey

    I hear the fishin was still good during Katrina.

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    9th December 2010 at 8:50 pm

  34. Administrator says:

    Smokey

    Your statement about blacks shooting helicopters is a lie. They were busy doing other things.

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    9th December 2010 at 8:54 pm

  35. Administrator says:

    Smokey

    First they looted their neighborhoods, before burning them down.

    9th December 2010 at 9:22 pm

  36. Administrator says:

    Smokey

    The LA riots were caused by the Capitalist pigs. According to RE, they had no choice but to riot.

    9th December 2010 at 9:25 pm

  37. Smokey says:

    DP is surely beating off to this thread, getting ready to spam ZH.—-I think that sick fucker spends MANY hours monitoring this blog.

    9th December 2010 at 9:30 pm

  38. Administrator says:

    Smokey

    DP is busy beating off his boyfriend BAHNEY BOO PEEP.

    9th December 2010 at 9:41 pm

  39. llpoh says:

    And now more and more see RE for the whackjob he is.

    Back on point’ I am an Indian – member of the Choctaw tribe. Well watered down but I have my papers. Unimaginable crimes were committed against Indians.

    Time to move on. Reparations will be wasted. Move along.

    9th December 2010 at 9:49 pm

  40. Smokey says:

    LLPOH—-People the world over revile Hitler. Especially Americans just can’t conceive how anyone could be that evil. But Americans seldom utter a fucking peep about the Indians. I’ve got some news. Wiping out a people is wiping out a people, whether at Auschwitz or Wounded Knee. Our American ancestors wiped out a people and the history books call it Manifest Destiny. Hitler wipes out a people and the history books call it the Holocaust. In my book, it’s the SAME FUCKING THING.

    9th December 2010 at 10:07 pm

  41. Administrator says:

    LLPOH

    How much are you pocketing in this deal?

    9th December 2010 at 10:09 pm

  42. Administrator says:

    Smokey

    The indians are getting their revenge.

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    9th December 2010 at 10:28 pm

  43. Smokey says:

    Administrator——-You walk into one of those Indian casinos you better be prepared to lose your ass.

    9th December 2010 at 10:35 pm

  44. llpoh says:

    Admin – for my pain and suffering at the hands of the Paleface, I figure I deserve all of it.

    Smokey – it was certainly near genocide for sure. But it was long ago. No one alive today was involved. I do not dwell for an instant on the thought I am owed a damn thing. The occassional article like this one makes me remember history. We need to learn from it and not repeat sins of the past. But reparations? To what real end.

    I vote we give Alaska over to the people of the Thirty Blocks. Hopefully they would move in next to RE. His lake would look like a cesspool in 3 days.

    9th December 2010 at 10:58 pm

  45. Smokey says:

    LLPOH—-I second your vote. A month with those people and RE’s IQ would rise by at least 50 points.

    9th December 2010 at 11:03 pm

  46. llpoh says:

    Howie – as you can see from my above posts I ddo not favor any reparations. However, one of the most insidious things Paleface did to the Indian was to give individual Indians land, instead of giving them reservations. This happened to the Choctaw. Paleface then bought the land piecemeal back from the Indians, so that the Indians had no homeland for their tribe, and as a result over time they lost their traditional relationship to the land. Paleface was very crafty in this. The Indians with reservations still have them. The ones granted individual lands have lost them.
    This should have been fixed long ago but wasn’t. Oh well. But I do have some compassion for tribes trying to get a homeland. It is a very emotional area and isn’t necessarily just a land grab. But again, time for reparations has long past.

    9th December 2010 at 11:30 pm

  47. Reverse Engineer says:

    Choctaw! That explains a lot. The Choctaw were one of the 5 “civilized” tribes that bought into European culture hook line and sinker. They were descended from the Mississippi tribes that had been decimated by Smallpox and were left feeble minded. In the words of Lone Watie:

    “I’m an Indian, all right; but here in the nation they call us the “civilized tribe”. They call us “civilized” because we’re easy to sneak up on. White men have been sneaking up on us for years.”

    RE

    9th December 2010 at 11:45 pm

  48. Reverse Engineer says:

    “I am a successful black man who will buy and sell you two bit whitey fucks all day long”-SIAVFFAF

    THUNDERDOME!

    This should be entertaining.

    RE

    10th December 2010 at 2:04 am

  49. Reverse Engineer says:

    @ Smokey

    Nice choice of Gravatar BTW. Al Lewis, who played Grandpa on the Munsters was a Liberal Greeny Union Anarchist. LOL.

    “Lewis has claimed that he was a member of the Sacco and Vanzetti Defense Committee in 1927 and that he worked in the 1930s to free the Scottsboro Boys. However, both of these occurrences would be unlikely if he had been born in 1923.

    In a 1997 interview, Lewis also claimed that he was an organizer in the Food, Agricultural and Tobacco Workers Union in North Carolina in the 1930s. Once on his WBAI-FM radio program Lewis said, “If anything I consider myself an anarchist.”

    As an activist, he hosted a politically oriented radio program on WBAI, and ran as Green Party candidate for Governor of New York in 1998.”

    RE

    10th December 2010 at 2:20 am

  50. llpoh says:

    RE – my mom’s side was Sioux. Membership requirements more strict there. I guess that explains a lot. Dickhead.
    Siav- I wouldn’t count on it re buying all the whiteys on this site. What are you worth? Toss you for it.
    And I suppose you are real proud of the way black folks are behaving in the slums of Philly. Time to move on and quit blaming whitey for everything wrong. How about black folks getting off welfare, staying married/etting married, getting some education, and taking care of their kids for a change. Nope. All those problems are because whitey mistreated you. Time to move on.

    10th December 2010 at 2:58 am

  51. Reverse Engineer says:

    Mom was Lakota? Too bad for you you got the Smallpox damaged genetic code from Dad the Choctaw. Genetic reassortment clearly did not work in your favor here. LOL.

    RE

    10th December 2010 at 3:06 am

  52. Reverse Engineer says:

    “Hey RE………I hope you overdose on the meth you bought with your guaranteed oil royalty check.”

    Actually, I took my PFD and bought two 60 Watt PV Solar Arrays and put the rest into the Kitty for buying the F-28 when I can locate one at a good price. Love those Big Oil kickbacks!

    RE

    10th December 2010 at 4:13 am

  53. eugend66 says:

    Monies pissed away. An black farmer? Hard to belive such thing exists. How can Admin.s
    Lakeesha be a cowgirl?

    10th December 2010 at 4:31 am

  54. Opinionated Bloviator says:

    From a country that was once respected as a bastion of capitalism, the rule of law and opportunity to this. :-(. Bury my heart at wounded knee.

    10th December 2010 at 4:34 am

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