PEACOCK SYNDROME – AMERICA’S FATAL DISEASE

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Posted on 24th July 2011 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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“There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution.”  - Aldous Huxley

 

Researchers at the University of Texas recently published a study about why men buy or lease flashy, extravagant, expensive cars like a gold plated Porsche Carrera GT. There conclusion was:

“Although showy spending is often perceived as wasteful, frivolous and even narcissistic, an evolutionary perspective suggests that blatant displays of resources may serve an important function, namely as a communication strategy designed to gain reproductive rewards.”

To put that in laymen’s terms, guys drive flashy expensive cars so they can get laid. Researcher Dr Vladas Griskevicius said: “The studies show that some men are like peacocks.  They’re the ones driving the bright colored sports car.”

Lead author Dr Jill Sundie said: “This research suggests that conspicuous products, such as Porsches, can serve the same function for some men that large and brilliant feathers serve for peacocks.” The male urge to merge with hot women led them to make fiscally irresponsible short term focused decisions. I think the researchers needed to broaden the scope of their study. Millions of Americans, men and women inclusive, have been infected with Peacock Syndrome. Millions of delusional Americans thought owning flashy things, living in the biggest McMansion, and driving a higher series BMW made them more attractive, more successful, and the most dazzling peacock in the zoo.

This is not an attribute specific to Americans, but a failing of all humans throughout history. Charles Mackay captured this human impulse in his 1841 book Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds:

“Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.”

The herd has been mad since 1970 and with the post economic collapse of 2008, some people are recovering their senses slowly, and one by one. The country was overrun by flocks of ostentatious peacocks displaying their plumage in an effort to impress their friends, families and work colleagues. What set the flaunting American peacocks apart was the fact they financed their splendid display of plumage with $0 down and 0% interest for seven years.  The lifestyles of the rich and famous miraculously became available to the poor and middle class through the availability of easy abundant credit provided by the friendly kind hearted Wall Street banks and their heroin dealers at the Federal Reserve.

The United States has experienced a four decade long “expenditure cascade”.  An expenditure cascade occurs when the rapid income growth of top earners fuels additional spending by the lower earner wannabes. The cascade begins among top earners, which encourages the middle class to spend more which, in turn, encourages the lower class to spend more. Ultimately, these expenditure cascades reduce the amount that each family saves, as there is less money available to save due to extra spending on frivolous discretionary items. Expenditure cascades are triggered by consumption. The consumption of the wealthy triggers increased spending in the class directly below them and the chain continues down to the bottom. This is a dangerous reaction for those at the bottom who have little disposable income originally and even less after they attempt to keep up with others spending habits.

This cascade of expenditures could not have occurred without cheap easy credit, supplied by Wall Street shysters and abetted by their puppets at the Federal Reserve through their inflationary policies. Real wages are lower today than they were in 1970. Coincidentally, the credit card began its ascendance as the peacock payment of choice in 1970. There are now over 600 million credit cards in circulation in the U.S. in the hands of 177 million fully plumed peacocks and peacock wannabes.

Monthly Payment Nation

“Consumerism re­quires the services of expert salesmen versed in all the arts (including the more insidious arts) of persuasion. Under a free enterprise system commercial propa­ganda by any and every means is absolutely indis­pensable. But the indispensable is not necessarily the desirable. What is demonstrably good in the sphere of economics may be far from good for men and women as voters or even as human beings.”  - Aldous Huxley

 

 

The country seemed to do just fine from 1945 through 1970 with no credit card debt and moderate levels of auto loan debt. In fact, this period in U.S. history was marked by strong economic growth created by capital investment, savings, and the American middle class realizing the American dream of a better life based upon their work ethic. Around about 1970, the intersection of Baby Boomers coming of age, the belief that social justice for all was a noble goal, and Nixon’s closing the gold window, opened Pandora’s Box and the evil released has brought the country to the precipice of ruin. Today, consumer credit outstanding totals $2.43 trillion, or $22,000 per household. It peaked at $2.6 trillion in 2008 and the storyline fed to the masses was that Americans had seen the light and embraced frugality by paying off their debts. As with most storylines spouted by the mainstream media, it was completely false. The Wall Street banks wrote off over $200 billion since 2008, while delusional peacocks continued to finance and lease gas guzzling luxury automobiles, while charging their purchase of an iPad2 and Lady Gaga concert tickets on one of their 13 credit cards.

It seems a vast swath of America refuse to shed their peacock feathers. This explains why you see BMWs, Mercedes, Escalades, and Porsches parked in the driveways of $100,000 houses. Automobiles are the truest representation of American peacock syndrome. Very few people look at a car purchase in a rational long term financial sense. It’s about impressing the neighbors, your peers and your family. Driving a brand new luxury car gives you the appearance of success. The neighbors don’t know you are in debt up to your eyeballs. This explains why 30% to 40% of all luxury cars are leased. A man could buy a $20,000 Honda hybrid with 10% down and finance the rest at 0.9% for three years. His monthly payment would be $500. After three years he would own the car outright, with the added benefit of getting 45 mpg. He could then invest the $500 per month for the next seven years in gold and silver or something else that benefits from Federal Reserve created inflation. In today’s society this would be the act of a doo doo bird.

  

 

Why drive a putt putt car when you can drive the ultimate peacock machine – a BMW 528i with 24-valve inline 240-horsepower 6-cylinder engine with composite magnesium/aluminum engine block, Valvetronic, and Double-VANOS steplessly variable valve timing, 10-way power-adjustable driver’s and front passenger’s seat with 4-way lumbar support, and memory system for driver’s seat, steering wheel and outside mirrors, along with high-fidelity 12-speaker sound system, including 2 subwoofers under the front seats, and digital 7-channel amplifier with 205 watts of power. Plus it looks really cool. This materialism machine can be leased for the same $500 per month that the doo doo bird pays for his Honda hybrid. Of course, after three years of renting luxury wheels the peacock has to turn in the 528i and lease an equally luxurious auto because driving an economy car would now harm his reputation. Colorful plumage is everything to a peacock.

Sometime over the years Americans lost their bearings and began to ignore a basic truth. The only way to accumulate wealth is to spend less than you make and save the difference. Over a ten year time frame the peacock will have dished out $60,000 renting luxury cars, while the doo doo bird will have expended $21,000 during the first three years and then invested $500 per month for 84 months, leaving him with a net $25,000 asset, based on a modest investment return of 5%. The doo doo bird ends up $85,000 wealthier than the peacock at the end of ten years. If you peruse the car dealer advertisements in your local paper, the price of the car is rarely even printed, only the monthly lease payment or 0% financing offer. There is a reason why the average American lives paycheck to paycheck, has no emergency fund for a rainy day, and has virtually no retirement savings socked away. Status, reputation and the appearance of success became more important to millions of Americans than living within their means and actually sacrificing and doing the hard work required to succeed. Delayed gratification is an unknown concept in America.

In 1970, 37% of households consisted of 4 or more people and we somehow managed to get by with one four door car per household. Today, only 24% of households consist of 4 or more people. There are 113 million households and over 250 million passenger vehicles, or 2.2 per household. So, even though the number of people in our households has shrunk dramatically, we needed 120% more vehicles to transport our vast quantities of stuff. Not only do we have more vehicles, but the size of these symbols of gluttony has doubled and tripled, with fitting names like: Tundra, Navigator, Titan, Yukon, Suburban and Hummer. Every soccer mom with two kids needed a 20 foot long, 6 foot high Yukon with an 8 cylinder engine, getting 12 mpg to shuttle around little Aiden and Chloe to their ten scheduled weekly activities. It wasn’t only automobiles that Americans went gaga over. The average home size in 1970 was 1,400 square feet (we drive cars bigger than that today). By 2009, the average home size reached 2,700 square feet. God knows we need 12 rooms for our 2.4 person households. The expenditure cascade started as a trickle in 1970 but became a raging uncontrollable waterfall by 2008.

 

Delusional Americans have been slowly lured into the web of debt and living their lives based upon whether they can make the monthly payment on their debt. I can anticipate the outrage from those who declare it wasn’t them, it was the other guy. Everyone has an excuse for why they aren’t to blame, but the facts speak otherwise:

  • Non-revolving (auto & education) debt outstanding is at an all-time high of $1.64 trillion.
  • The average auto loan is now $27,000 with a loan to value ratio of 80% to 90%, down from 95% in 2007.
  • Auto dealers are now offering $0 down and 0% interest for 72 months on many models. Ask yourself how a finance company can make a profit with those terms.
  • There are 54 million households with a revolving credit card balance, proving that approximately 50% of Americans are attempting to live above their means.
  • The average credit card debt per household with credit card debt is $14,687.
  • The average APR on a new credit card is 15%, even though the banks can borrow from the Federal Reserve for 0.25%.
  • In 2009, the United States Census Bureau determined there were nearly 1.5 billion credit cards in use in the U.S. A stack of all those credit cards would reach more than 70 miles into space – and be almost as tall as 13 Mount Everests.
  • 76% of undergraduates have credit cards, and the average undergrad has $2,200 in credit card debt. Additionally, they will amass almost $20,000 in student debt.
  • On average, today’s consumer has a total of 13 credit obligations on record at a credit bureau. These include credit cards (such as department store charge cards, gas cards, and bank cards) and installment loans (auto loans, mortgage loans, student loans, etc.).
  • Over 90 percent of African-American families earning between $10,000 and $24,999 had credit card debt. What bank in their right mind would issue a credit card to someone making $15,000 per year?
  • Discussing credit card debt is highly taboo. The topics at the top of the list of things that people say they are very or somewhat unlikely to talk openly about with someone they just met were: The amount of credit card debt (81%); details of your love life (81%); your salary (77%); the amount you pay for your monthly mortgage or rent (72%); your health problems (62%); your weight (50%). I wonder why?
  • Penalty fees from credit cards added up to about $20.5 billion in 2009, according to R. K. Hammer, a consultant to the credit card industry. Don’t be one day late with that credit card payment. It’s good to be a bank.
  • The average late fee was found to have risen to $28.19, way up from $25.90 in 2008. Consumer Action reported that late fees reached up to $39 per incident.
  • The volume of gasoline purchases placed on credit cards jumped 39% last month from a year earlier, compared with a 21% increase in June 2010. Food shopping increased 5% after falling 7% last year. The value of an average transaction on credit cards outpaced the gain for debit cards, showing consumers are increasingly relying on borrowing to pay for gasoline and other necessities.

After decades of a debt financed contest to display the gaudiest plumage, is the average American happier? Considering more than 10% of all Americans are on anti-depressant drugs, I’d say not. The rat race for status, the appearance of wealth and visible faux displays of success do not increase well-being. If most of our earnings are spent on an empty game of status, we should not expect much improvement in our quality of life. There is something perverse about having more than enough. When we have more, it is never enough. It is always somewhere out there, just out of reach. This is the attitude that drives the criminals on Wall Street and politicians in Washington DC to constantly seek more power and wealth. The more we acquire, the more elusive enough becomes. Much of the debt financed purchases of consumer trinkets, baubles and gadgets is nothing more than an expensive anesthetic to deaden the pain of empty lives.

Based upon the facts, the average American has not benefitted from the decades long materialistic frenzy. They have sacrificed their futures for the fleeting glory of ephemeral riches. In fact, the average American could not have participated in the expenditure cascade had they not been enabled by the financial industry and cheap plentiful money provided by the financial industries’ drug dealer – the Federal Reserve. The financial industry complex used their power and wealth to utilize all means of propaganda and mass media outlets to convince Americans that debt was good and more debt was even better. I’ll address the insidious aspects of the unholy union of debt and propaganda in Part Two – Propaganda Nation Built Upon Delusions of Debt.

Meanwhile, millions of Americans cling to their borrowed peacock feathers as the butcher of reality bears down upon them. The end won’t be pretty. The brave conquerors of strip malls across the land can enjoy their toys, gadgets, and treasures for awhile longer, but they need to remember one thing – Glory is fleeting and death can come suddenly.

 

“For over a thousand years Roman conquerors returning from the wars enjoyed the honor of triumph, a tumultuous parade. In the procession came trumpeteers, musicians and strange animals from conquered territories, together with carts laden with treasure and captured armaments. The conquerors rode in a triumphal chariot, the dazed prisoners walking in chains before him. Sometimes his children robed in white stood with him in the chariot or rode the trace horses. A slave stood behind the conqueror holding a golden crown and whispering in his ear a warning: that all glory is fleeting.”

Last scene from the movie Patton
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

96 Comments
  1. jmarz says:

    Great commentary. Until we learn how to live within our means and find happiness from within, our country will continue to embark on the path to misery.

    24th July 2011 at 3:40 pm

  2. Yojimbo says:

    The late great comedian Bill Hicks on Marketing:

    24th July 2011 at 3:49 pm

  3. Jesse says:

    “Memento mori”

    “Remember that you are a mortal man.”

    Patton film takes some liberty with what was ordinarily done but is directionally correct.

    However it was not that glory was fleeting so much as to strike the nature of the Republic versus that of the monarchy which the Romans had thrown off, before the rise of the emperors that is.

    There are also who claimed that the slave whispered, ‘look behind you, and remember you are a man’ implying a commonality with the slave in the face of the gods and the universe. I find that to be less persuasive.

    There is no certain documentation of this custom I could find.

    24th July 2011 at 4:13 pm

  4. HoosierGuy says:

    I am not a peacock.

    I drive a 10 year old ugly Caddy. I guess that makes me a dumbcock.

    Whatever happened to the good ol days when — if I wanted to get laid — I merely had to say, “Hey babe, I have a large cock!” ? Wow. Now I need a Porsche? Fuck that!!

    Q: What’s the difference between a Porsche driver and a cactus?
    A: On a cactus, the prick is on the outside.

    24th July 2011 at 4:34 pm

  5. Anonymous says:

    Well before the government takes or inflates my pile away i thought it would be fun to drive my 2011 500 hp challenger. If i paid cash for it does it mean i get more snatch. Never even noticed the hole in my retirement account.
    Sometimes, if you don’t truly know what is around the corner, then should we not have some fun along the way.
    I would rather live for today with my health and enjoy it. That way when i am infirm and in my late 60′s then i can go on welfare for my end of days

    24th July 2011 at 4:39 pm

  6. Jb says:

    On Saturday, we drove from Charlottesville, VA to Emerald Isle, NC in 100 deg. heat and got 53mpg in our Insight. If that makes me a Dodo, so be it!

    24th July 2011 at 4:50 pm

  7. Bill Hicks says:

    Excellent commentary…really hits the mark.

    24th July 2011 at 5:34 pm

  8. cv51 says:

    No wonder I had to get married to get laid regularly. I kept buying and driving old used pick up trucks,

    24th July 2011 at 5:48 pm

  9. howard in nyc says:

    admin–you are full of shit.

    a 528i is for dainty ladies.

    the new 550i is a man’s ride. there is a reason God gave us the V8.

    otherwise, spot on.

    24th July 2011 at 6:27 pm

  10. Petey says:

    OT: Gold breaking out. $1620 as I write.

    I’m sure it’s just transitory tradition.

    24th July 2011 at 7:09 pm

  11. Petey fall says:

    :)
    see gt. (experiment) .. retire… (Amm.ermann) site.
    “pension plans suffer w/ low interest rates’ (on c.d.’s etc).
    “fin. firms saved (08) by hurting savers, retirees” (who rely on the 5% rate you note).
    . . .
    p i i g s broke now what>? (cant eat preciouis alloys)?
    .
    “g.a.o says F R Beee loand $16t, sixteen tril (tom)”? Uncle Sugar’s total
    borrowings near two hund tril (tom) 13 x
    $14/tril / yr gdp”

    24th July 2011 at 7:15 pm

  12. llpoh says:

    One of my mentors told me “drive the least expensive car your ego will allow.” He is right, but the problem is some folks simply have an enormous ego. I drove an escort for over 10 years – even when I owned my own company. It was 5 years old when I bought it. Today I drive whatever the hell I want, but will step back down to modestly priced cars shortly. I just do not see the value in BMWs/Audis and their ilk.

    24th July 2011 at 7:20 pm

  13. AKAnon says:

    Many folks spend many hours of their lives behind the wheel. What is wrong with enjoying yourself during that time? I’m not endorsing living beyond your means, but you might as well have some fun during the daily grind. I drove a ’71 Challenger (w/ 440) all summer for 5 or 6 years. Cost a lot less than ANY new car when I bought it. It got crappy gas mileage, but it was fun. Sold it (made 80% profit) when I moved closer to my job. I miss that car, but make up for the loss in “fun factor” by riding motorcycles whenever the weather allows. And they DO get great mileage (and paid for).

    24th July 2011 at 7:37 pm

  14. brann says:

    the bigger the auto the smaller the dick.

    24th July 2011 at 7:38 pm

  15. ragman says:

    brann: I wouldn’t brag about knowing dick sizes on this forum.

    24th July 2011 at 7:42 pm

  16. Zombie Dawg says:

    A cynic might say you know who doesn’t have a flash car and is a bit envious but as there are no cynics in this blog that won’t be the case ;-)

    This isn’t just a “disease” in the USSA – it’s global.
    Shallow pretentious lifestyles abound.
    Over her in Oz, this morning I parked in the street and watched (as per usual) a local resident in her dressing gown in the street in 1C temps with ice all over her car trying to de-ice it (hasn’t heard of warm water obviously), so she could run her kids a measly 3 blocks to school (in her dressing gown as usual) in her nice new fuel guzzling dinosaur $55k Landrover.
    Jeez – what planet do these turkeys live on ?

    When SHTF, I will laugh at them big time…

    Me – I’ve got a 4cyl 1994 Subaru Liberty and that’s all I need ‘cos I live in the real world.

    24th July 2011 at 7:50 pm

  17. llpoh says:

    AKA – despite my general fondness for you, I feel obliged to point out that it is impossible to look intelligent and ride a mootrcycle at the same time.

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    24th July 2011 at 7:50 pm

  18. AKAnon says:

    What is that rule of physics about two objects occupying the same place at the same time? But they save on parking meters that way.

    24th July 2011 at 7:53 pm

  19. AKAnon says:

    I would also point out that it wasn’t the riding that got that guy, it was when he stopped riding that things turned bad. Much like flying an airplane-there’s no danger in flying, only in not flying.

    24th July 2011 at 7:55 pm

  20. Opinionated Bloviator says:

    I wonder if my gold and silver holdings count as bling?

    24th July 2011 at 8:54 pm

  21. brann says:

    ragman–i use my great deductive powers from years of rest room visiting

    24th July 2011 at 9:01 pm

  22. doc_retro says:

    A couple of observations:
    1.) In ‘The Millionaire Next Door,” the author/researchers described the fruits of 27 years of studying the average American millionaire. (They excluded the super-rich and concentrate on those in the 41-10M range.) The average ‘Joe Millionaire’ is a white male, age 57, business owner, working 6 days/week and driving a used, full-size GM car. The wannabees flash the BMWs (and the Rolexes, etc.) while the real silver-backed gorillas drive LeSabres and invest the money saved in something productive. (Note: I have a bias here, as I drive a LeSabre.)
    2.) America will re-learn thrift. Too bad we didn’t listen to Grandma, because we’ll get the same lesson from Kiplings “Gods of the Copybook Headings,” and they don’t bake cookies.

    24th July 2011 at 9:12 pm

  23. Colma Rising says:

    Opinionated Bloviator:

    Yes, by definition your pm holdings are bling.

    24th July 2011 at 9:37 pm

  24. llpoh says:

    My accountant says that there are a lot of folks who act rich – drive BMWs and Mercedes, etc. – but there are relatively few rich. They tend to drive more modest vehicles and tend to save rather than spend.

    That is one reason why I get irate when the politics of envy spring up – by and large the modestly well-to-do have worked and saved for what they have, while the “I ain’t got nuthin’s” have squander every opportunity. I do not tend to have much sympathy for them.

    Spend less than you earn, and eventiually things tend to work out ok. It is no longer the American way, though, is it?

    24th July 2011 at 10:17 pm

  25. Suspicious says:

    I don’t know… most people I see scraping by and using credit to fund day to day needs like food, dental, medical care, inexpensive clothing etc. There is a part of the middle class that is vain and leads a materialistic life, but most Americans are relatively frugal and are just trying to survive on dwindling incomes and constant high inflation (forget core inflation crap). The reason many families have two cars now is that govt hasn’t invested in public transit in most areas and both parents now work, unlike in the idyllic past you yearn for. I am sick of what is being done to my fellow Americans and piling on as if it is our fault when the fault really lies with the plutocratic malefactors of great wealth who sold their own country and its people down the river for short term gain (and long term declines) is not a solution.

    24th July 2011 at 10:32 pm

  26. Administrator says:

    Suspicious

    Your view of most people is not borne out by the facts. There are opinions and there are facts. I back up my analysis with facts. You did not. Sounds like you’re an ideologue only viewing your preconceived notion of the world. You lose.

    24th July 2011 at 11:07 pm

  27. Suspicious says:

    I rebutted your facts, at least partially — the number of cars per household for instance. What is your response to that? And what is your response to the fact that 42 million Americans need food stamps just to be able to afford to eat? I’m not saying we don’t have values problems in this country, but I think that they are overblown when in fact the real problem is poverty and lack of opportunity.

    24th July 2011 at 11:27 pm

  28. SSS says:

    Suspicious

    Where do you live? Manhattan? You said, “The reason many families have two cars now is that govt hasn’t invested in public transit in most areas…….”mtrak

    Have you looked at a fucking map of America? This country is huge. Have you travelled in the Midwest and Southwest? Miles and miles of miles of miles. What do you propose for mass transit? Bullet trains between Scottsbluff, Nebraska and Cheyenne, Wyoming? How about the same for Rapid City, South Dakota and Billings, Montana. No wait, I got it. Amtrak for the Mormon gamblers between Salt Lake City, Utah and Las Vegas.

    As for your stupid comment, “I’m not saying we don’t have values problems in this country, but I think that they are overblown when in fact the real problem is poverty and lack of opportunity.”

    So the real problem is poverty? Well, Lyndon Johnson stated the “War on Poverty” in the mid-1960s nearly a half-century ago. Public Housing. Food stamps. School lunches. And on fucking infinitum. How’s that working out for poverty, trillions of dollars later? Slightly worse than the 60s.

    Get a clue. “Government isn’t the solution to problems, government is the problem.” Compliments of Ronald Reagan

    25th July 2011 at 12:18 am

  29. llpoh says:

    Suspicious – Admin was being kind. I will attempt to follow his lead.

    There are approx. 250 million registered vehicles in the US. That is a huge number no matter how you cut it, and is more than 2 cars per family. 250 million Americans live in/around cities. Some have transport issues – but some don’t. They further erode your argument re multiple cars being a necessity. In some cases it is, but in many it is not.

    Americans owe about $350 billion on cars, about $600 billion on home equity loans (not mortgages, but borrowings against perceived capital increases in their homes) and about 1 trillion in credit card debt. So Americans owe about $7000 per person for these 3 categories of debt. Median household income is approx. $50k, with a median size of 3.1, so the average household has an income of $50k and a non mortgage debt of over $20k. Also not shown are student loans which are very significant as well.

    There are currently over 8 million people on disability insurance. Think there are no scammers among them?

    Of the 42 million Americans needing food stamps – a great many would be in desparate need, of course. Many, however, would be taking advantage of the system. Food stamps do not provide an incentive to work, now do they? They may fill a need, but they certainly do not provide an incentive, and I, for one, blieve that there should be a much greater incentive to work than there is now. Take a look at the photos of people from the 30 Blocks. See a lot of starvation there, do you?

    Americans, by and large, are drunken sailors with regard to their spending habits.

    25th July 2011 at 12:33 am

  30. llpoh says:

    SSS – and here I was being nice to the fuckwit. I really like that he “rebuuted” Admin’s facts. I read his post again in search of said rebuttal, but didn’t see one. I then noted he challenged the Admin with a series of Einsteinian “Oh, Yeah? Then explain such and suches?” No facts did he present. He has come unarmed to a battle of wits.

    25th July 2011 at 12:37 am

  31. Suspicious says:

    SSS – I guess you hate the food stamp program. You’d rather see 42 million Americans starve I suppose. And, as I stated in my comments, the reason we still have so much poverty is that the plutocracy, which I’m sure you are not a part of though you might maintain the illusion you are, has sold out our manufacturing and productive economic base, once the envy of the world, and shipped it to the third world, leaving our people to live off of government subsidy. Do you think I would rather people live off the govt? If you do you’re wrong. It is just the reality these days thanks to Wall Street and the international conglomerates.

    With regard to the 2.2 cars issue, I was not suggesting that its all the government’s responsibility. I blamed it partially on a lack of good public transit, which despite the size of our country, could do much to mitigate the need for so many cars. However, I stated the main reason for so many cars is the need, thanks again to the plutocracy, for both mother and father to work, meaning they need additional transport to do so.

    My big problem with the post that we are supposedly commenting on is that it serves to divide the people against each other rather than for us to recognize who our real enemy is. You can pretend all the ills this country faces are due to government, but tax rates for corporations (and I mean real tax rates, not nominal) and the wealthy are the lowest they’ve been since before WWII, and yet the fatcats are not creating jobs. Why is that? Its ironic that Ronald Reagan, your apparent hero, began our decent into deficit financed government more than any other prez in history, and Bush II continued that trajectory. Its also ironic that you think that government, which I’m sorry to say is your only hope of maintaining your standard of living against the forces of monopoly capitalism that threaten you, is your enemy. The problem is that government is not working for the people anymore. It is owned by the plutocrats. We need to take it back and make it work for us, because if you think a stateless society will give you opportunity, just take a look at history and how it was for most people before the new deal and the growth of the middle class.

    You probably hate unions too, but did you know that the only reason you get sick days, vacation days, healthcare (if you’re lucky enough to still have that), and pension/iras is due to the union movement forcing business to more fairly share the profits. I guess you don’t believe in basic fairness in society — you want a winner take all system, so I suppose you think you’d be one of the winners. Its sad that this is what so much of our “culture” has turned to — selfishness and greed. Wasn’t it during the Reagan era that people started saying “greed is good”? Well, guess what, its not. It leads to neo-feudalistic corporate fascist government takeover. Take a lesson from Jesus: “it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God”. Jesus turned over the moneychangers tables in the temple of God. The moneychangers now are on Wall Street, wrecking the world economy, causing mass dislocation, starvation and suffering for their short term profits. Wake up before the little niche you’ve carved out is taken from you by the same people who took the productive jobs away from America’s working class.

    25th July 2011 at 12:43 am

  32. Suspicious says:

    llpoh, you wrote: “Food stamps do not provide an incentive to work, now do they? ”

    Just last month Obama’s wonderful job “czar”, Jeff Immelt, head of GE, chastised America’s workers stating that there are currently 2 million unfilled jobs in America due to workers lacking the required skills. Two points I’d like to make about that:

    1. There are currently 5 unemployed Americans for every job opening. How on earth do you think you can stuff 5 people into one job? Americans are not lazy, we are hardworking people, but the jobs just aren’t there. You can sit on your ass typing about how government deincentivizes workers — I mean everyone knows a starving worker is able to conjure a job out of thin air.

    2. Companies used to train workers for jobs, because there was a thing called loyalty that simply meant there was a commitment between worker and employer to do what was in the best interests of both. Now they want workers to come fully formed and ready with all the skills necessary, only to be laid off at the first sign of economic shakiness, to appease the bond gods and Wall Street.

    And btw, as far as the 2.2 cars thing goes, the reason the number is over two is that many wealthier Americans own 3 or even 10 frickin cars.

    The lot of you can stick your heads in the sand with your smug superiority. Its sad really that you have carved out this little space to vent your spleen on the helpless. I guess you do it because you fear that you are next on the chopping block, and this is a way to deny the reality of how vulnerable you are. That’s why you nurture the myth of the lazy American who doesn’t want to work — so you can believe that because you work hard you won’t be downsized and hung out to dry. Hate to say it, but hard work is not always rewarded, not in today’s USA, and more often than not, the job guillotine falls on the righteous and wicked alike, it has no concern for you, so wake up or you will likely be next.

    In closing, I’ll burst one more bubble: I think Obama is one of the worst presidents in history, and if you got your news from a reality-based source instead of corporate fascist pravda fox news, you would know that he is actually a right wing president. He’s offering to cut social security and medicare for god’s sake! I do not like him, he is a liar and thief, and has helped pull off the biggest bank heist in history. The problem is that both parties are completely corrupt. Its not left versus right anymore its us versus them. Ya’ll should wake up.

    25th July 2011 at 12:59 am

  33. Suspicious says:

    Btw, you can hurl expletives at me all frickin year. It doesn’t hurt me. It just shows that your position is weak. It appears I’m preaching here to the wrong choir, but the funny thing is I read Charles Hugh Smith and appreciate a lot of what he says. Much of what I’m saying here jibes with his sentiments, which is why I’m a bit surprised at the negative reactions. Regardless, you people really need to start thinking for yourselves, and stop reiterating blind anti-government, anti-liberal cant. The solutions to our problems do not fall on a clean line between right and left. The solutions are a blend of ideas from both sides, but the powers that be do not want us to know this. They’d rather have us fight amongst ourselves, the better to distract us while they continue to loot.

    25th July 2011 at 1:05 am

  34. SSS says:

    Suspicious said, “SSS – I guess you hate the food stamp program. You’d rather see 42 million Americans starve I suppose.”

    Yes, I would eliminate food stamps. Because starvation wouldn’t happen. Soup kitchens, asshole. Just like the 30s. Coming soon to your neighborhood. Wake those fuckers up. And it’s 44 million, not 42 million, And counting.

    25th July 2011 at 1:11 am

  35. llpoh says:

    SSS – I agree with you. We need to enforce mutual obligation. If you get welfare – any welfare (and that includes SS (and those out there that believe SS isn’t welfare, please spare me the “I paid in so I am entitled crap. You didn’t pay in enough to be entitled – you just paid enough in to keep the Ponzi scheme from collapsing – so far anyway) need to provide community service for the money.
    Community service means mowing parkland, cleaning roadsides, community building projects, tutoring, whatever they are capable of doing.

    It is an old, somewhat trite saying – I am happy to give a hand-up, not a hand-out.

    25th July 2011 at 1:52 am

  36. Welshman says:

    In German the BMW 5 Series are used by the police.

    25th July 2011 at 6:23 am

  37. llpoh says:

    Novista – that was awesome. One of the best controlled flames ever and worthy of high praise indeed.

    My simple “fuckwit” reply simply doesn’t measure up. It was accurate, tgough, albeit less eloquent.

    25th July 2011 at 6:29 am

  38. Novista says:

    llpoh

    Why, thank you , sir!

    I do get inspired by those tired old “you hate the poor” etc. blather.

    25th July 2011 at 6:47 am

  39. Peacock Syndrome – America’s Fatal Disease « InvestmentWatch says:

    [...] by Jim Quinn of The Burning Platform [...]

    25th July 2011 at 7:44 am

  40. flash says:

    Damn, JQ. Another excellent , dead on, ass hair scorching sermon.
    You missed your calling.You should have been a shrink.

    Speaking of the need for a shrink,what happened to Stuck? Did Ms Freud take away his PC privileges……..again?

    BTW, I would forward this article to all my friends , but they’re all “peacocks” and they would think I was pointing the finger

    HA HA HA , I tried to warn ‘em.

    25th July 2011 at 7:44 am

  41. Administrator says:

    Suspicious

    You did not rebutt my facts. Our families are far smaller than they were in 1970 and our homes are twice as large. The AVERAGE number of cars per household is 2.2. That means more than 2 cars per household for the mathematically challenged. The credit card debt per household is a fact. It didn’t happen in the last 4 years as you bleeding heart liberals would like us to believe. Explain why people borrowed $3 TRILLION against their houses from 2002 through 2006 before the bad times hit?

    Your storyline is false. Your ideology is revealed.

    25th July 2011 at 8:19 am

  42. Administrator says:

    llpoh

    I’d like to report that I drove through West Philly this morning and I report no emaciated starving children laying on the ground next to the Mercedes, Tahoes, Escalades and BMWs that I saw parked in front of the Mantua Square low income housing project. I did see a racing motorcycle with a cover over it.

    25th July 2011 at 8:26 am

  43. Administrator says:

    Suspicious’ False Reality of the starving poor

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    Reality of the starving poor

    350px-American_Eating_Habits.jpg

    25th July 2011 at 8:31 am

  44. Administrator says:

    Suspicious

    Whenever I read someone say the REAL ENEMY, I know we have a myopic ideologue on our hands. Ideologues only see their side of an issue. The other side doesn’t exist in their mind, even though it is clear for all to see.

    You clearly have not read this site before and think it seeks to only blame the morons who took on too much debt and try to game the system at every opportunity. Ideologues are quick to scorn someone or something, without having the facts. That is what makes you an ideologue.

    Welcome to the machine.

    25th July 2011 at 8:36 am

  45. Administrator says:

    flash

    I would think you would send this article to your friends just to piss them off. Aren’t you happy that I didn’t single out Boomers in this article?

    25th July 2011 at 8:38 am

  46. Golden Tool says:

    I’ll take this question admin.

    People are idiots. All of this idiocy is supplied and provided by the banks and the government. What happened to banks having fiscal responsibility to actually earn a return on capital?

    One word here. INSURANCE

    Covered by the government and our tax dollars.

    We don’t have to have due diligence anymore we can wash our hands of it.
    It is the mom with 2 hungry kids at homes fault for using this system to feed them. Are people taking advantage of it? Absolutely. To not blame the system for this mess is quite frankly idiotic.

    Welcome to idiocracy. Admin and llpoh crunch all the statistics you want dumb business is just dumb. The US has been running like this since the early 90′s. If a person can punch it into a keypad eventually a script can do it better.

    Don’t blame the clueless for the decisions of their masters.

    “Storyline if false. Your ideology is revealed.”

    What a pompous ass you sound like.

    People are idiots and so is this argument.

    25th July 2011 at 8:47 am

  47. flash says:

    @ admin- I’ve already pissed them off with so much forwarded from TB to the extent they hardly drop by anymore.
    American Politics is a sport in which only two teams are allowed to play.
    And no die-hard fan wants to continually hear his team is no better than the rival.
    The Republicans will surely restore the Republic….this time… or so they say.

    republicrats.jpg

    25th July 2011 at 8:49 am

  48. flash says:

    The New National Anthem
    Let’s all have ‘nother round.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akKYTkAmoAc

    25th July 2011 at 8:54 am

  49. Administrator says:

    Golden Tool

    Your name fits. I suggest you read my five part series before acting like you know what the fuck I believe. You one trick ideological ponies are as bad as the Fox News assholes.

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=14836

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=15003

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=15246

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=15909

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/?p=16575

    25th July 2011 at 9:17 am

  50. Bavarian Engineer says:

    One thing to note about BMWs. The are very well engineered vehicles, and if you maintain yours well, you only need to buy one in your lifetime. When you die, you can pass it on to your grandchildren.
    —-
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_507
    The 507 made its debut at the Waldorf-Astoria Hotel in New York in the summer of 1955.[4] Production began in November 1956. Max Hoffman intended the 507 to sell for about $5,000 U.S. 202 507s are known to survive, a tribute to the car’s appeal. Bernie Ecclestone’s 507 fetched £430,238 ($904,000) at an auction in London in October 2007.

    25th July 2011 at 9:43 am

  51. Administrator says:

    Bavarian Engineer

    BMWs are fine cars. I think anyone who can afford to buy one, should do it. I could have inserted Hummer, Expedition, Mercedes or any other car into the article. I pick BMWs just to bust my Boomer brother’s balls. The point is about spending less than you make. Pure and simple. You cannot accumulate wealth unless you follow this basic rule. Leasing luxury cars for three years at a time is a losing proposition. So is carrying a credit card balance.

    Of course you can fulfill the American dream by buying a lottery ticket or heading out to your local casino. I understand they take credit cards.

    25th July 2011 at 9:56 am

  52. RT says:

    this was a great editorial. most americans suck. sad but true. i am disgusted with 99% of the ppl surrounding me.

    25th July 2011 at 10:23 am

  53. RT says:

    and now that i’ve read the comments…wow…valid points all around but it seems that suspicious and the tool haven’t been reading TBP very long

    25th July 2011 at 10:43 am

  54. Golden Tool says:

    I’ve read your articles, and for the most part I agree with your statements.

    But…

    When you push your opinion as “the only right one” and knock all other equally valid “opinions” even those backed by facts, statistics, or just by intuitive wisdom, water is wet because I felt it so. Who’s the asshat? You fall under the same my right wing my ideology kungfu is stronger then your left wing ideology karate, which is the current show/politics. This has everyone arguing in circles and not solving anything. Yep rinse, repeat.

    I’ll add another point on here. Just a drive by of fourth turning theory. If you have the numbers 5+4+8+11 and you move them around (4+5+8+11) they equal 18 every time. Why would history be any different?

    Without putting any different solutions out you might as well be farting in the wind.

    25th July 2011 at 10:53 am

  55. Administrator says:

    Tool Boy

    I’ve been putting out solutions for three years. Just because you don’t like them doesn’t make them invalid. I equally scorn the right and left, so your bullshit about rightwing ideology is nothing but farting in the wind, as you like to say.

    It is interesting to see the shrillness of ideologues as their ideas and beliefs are proven to be false.

    Keep posting. We need ideologues to kick around.

    25th July 2011 at 11:02 am

  56. Golden Tool says:

    Will do this will be fun.

    Canada!!

    25th July 2011 at 11:31 am

  57. Administrator says:

    Golden Tool

    We’ll make you pronounce your OHs properly before we’re done with you.

    25th July 2011 at 11:51 am

  58. Golden Tool says:

    Just so you know I’m from PA.

    Stuck just hates canadians… Yaa.

    25th July 2011 at 11:57 am

  59. Administrator says:

    Did you vote for Rendell?

    25th July 2011 at 11:59 am

  60. Golden Tool says:

    I’ve never voted other then local. Figure it’s a waste of time. Over time my theory, in my own mind, has been proven correct.

    This is also how I know NJ is the armpit of the world.

    25th July 2011 at 12:03 pm

  61. Muck About says:

    Well, I’m glad to see TEOTWAWKI didn’t happen with the market open today. The Repubs are still trying to inch a short term deal along so it will be BIG deal next November to squabble over and give the bought and paid for propaganda machines of the MSM more absolutely meaningless bull shit to write about.

    But we’re not talking about Ireland defaulting on its debt Friday – paying debtors a mere $0.10 on the dollar or the fact that gold now has no ceiling and a clear shot at $2K. Oh no……..

    Here we’re covering the importance of driving a hot car to get laid. Hmmmm.. Fun article to read but doesn’t apply to many people here on TBP.

    Oh, me? We are a single car family of two, driving a 2010 FIRE ENGINE RED Mustang with a blown 6 cylinder that’ll make the blood drain out of your head if you get too carried away with it. Not to mention that getting carried away too much makes your tires last 12k miles instead of 30k and does nasty things to an otherwise reasonable mile/gal ratio.

    My wife picked it out, it had 10k on it and someone else paid the first years depreciation for me and it was a cream puff inside and out. I tried to talk her into another Corvette (of which we once owned an ’82 – last beautiful ‘Vette made without a right angle on it) but she told me I’d have to add a lift to the passenger side to assist her getting in and out (and my sweetie is slim and trim too – just getting creaky joints like I am!)

    So to stay on subject, I drive a new red race car because it turns Momma on. That is the best reason I knew of to have gotten it too! I have been known to give pretty young girls rides when they beg me to. But Momma keeps a stop watch on me and I have never been a fast draw kind of guy.

    All you fellows can be poop-in-the-muds if you want to, but for me, I’ll go out in something red and fast and sounds great with glass packs that gets thumbs up from all the other old fuds driving their wee Jap boxes out there.

    Each your Honda hearts out!

    MA

    25th July 2011 at 12:12 pm

  62. Muck About says:

    Oh, yeah.. I paid cash for it too.

    MA

    25th July 2011 at 12:16 pm

  63. ron says:

    German cars are over rated junk,unless you enjoy hanging out at the dealership while they fix it.and its human nature to want to own nice stuff,and be lazy.On a more normal level i see so many people with big pickup trucks,must be trying to make up for a lack of something.So many people dont beleave in god so livin like a king while theyre alive is what theyre tryin to do,death is being worm dirt to most.I beleave in God and drive a mini van because i have kids and the mini van has lots of room and can haul a lot of gear.All these empty suits well be our downfall.

    25th July 2011 at 12:22 pm

  64. Administrator says:

    Muck

    Paying cash is the point of the story. Buy whatever you want, as long as you can actually afford it.

    25th July 2011 at 12:22 pm

  65. RT says:

    golden tool, how the hell do those four numbers add up to 18? i see you’re probably a liberal arts major

    25th July 2011 at 12:26 pm

  66. HoosierGuy says:

    Ron — Good call on German junk

    From Consumer Reports 2011 …..

    ==========

    The major Asian brands are still doing well overall. All models from Acura, Honda, Hyundai, Infiniti, Scion, and Toyota have at least average predicted reliability.

    Ford continues to be the most reliable American automaker. Ninety percent of Fords, including Lincoln models, have at least average reliability.

    Chrysler remains the lowest-ranked manufacturer in our survey. We can recommend only one of its vehicles, the four wheel-drive Dodge Ram 1500.

    While European reliability had been improving, momentum seems to have stalled. All Porsche and Volvo models are rated average or better.

    BUT AUDI, BMW, and MERCEDES ARE AMONG THE WORST AUTOMAKERS OVERALL.

    The Porsche Boxster has the best predicted reliability in our survey, while the Audi A6 3.0T and Jaguar XF have the worst.

    25th July 2011 at 12:35 pm

  67. AwholeDr says:

    Great writing, great thread. A bleeding heart liberal by any other name is still a bleeding heart liberal.

    “Since President Lyndon Johnson declared a War on Poverty in 1964, Americans have spent around $16 trillion on means-tested welfare. We will spend another $10 trillion over the next decade based on recent projections. Even with all these resources devoted to assistance for the poor, poverty is higher today than it was in the 1970s.”

    What could we have done with $16 trillion? Whose going to come up with $10 trillion more?

    A breakdown:
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    25th July 2011 at 12:41 pm

  68. Golden Tool says:

    This is where I should say something witty like “That’s how the government does it’s accounting” or “I hit the one key rather then the two key” but I just didn’t check before I clicked.

    Do unto others.

    25th July 2011 at 12:46 pm

  69. Administrator says:

    AwholeDr

    That chart is revolting.

    And the left wingers think we need to do more. It’s never enough. Just like Keynesian economics. Never enough.

    25th July 2011 at 12:52 pm

  70. howard in nyc says:

    i don’t see medicare in there. or regular ss.

    25th July 2011 at 12:54 pm

  71. AwholeDr says:

    Admin:

    Obama raised spending by 30% just since 2008, to almost $1 trillion per year. If one year’s Welfare spending was instead spent on student loan debt, it would wipe our ALL student loan debt in this country.

    As far as food-stamps/SNAP are concerned, more than 2/3 kids are obese or overweight. Sometimes when I go to a store, I’m the only one paying cash, the other 6 people have snap cards, and more than 2/3 of them are obese. Losing weight would benefit most of the kids nowadays. But let’s use a more scary word, like starvation. Starvation is no food for an extended period of time. Nobody in this country is in danger of starving. Most people could live off their blubber for at least 6 months.

    img_24861_fat-kid-chair-fail.jpg

    Being a fat kid isn’t funny anymore.

    25th July 2011 at 1:07 pm

  72. Brian says:

    @ Suspicious – “My big problem with the post that we are supposedly commenting on is that it serves to divide the people against each other rather than for us to recognize who our real enemy is.”

    I have seen the enemy. And it is us. We have caused this to ourselves. We have flocked to the cliff for deeper values. We have bought the lie that 2 incomes = greater value in life. We have turned our backs on deeper things. Insert any rant from any Old Testament prophet here. Middle America has bought the lie of the intellegensia… We no longer instill great value in our children (insert 4th Turning principles here).

    The group I feel for are those who make $40-$60k as a family on one income. This is a family that’s doing everything right in raising their children, staying out of debt, live in a ‘sub-standard’ house (per today’s norms), drives 5-8 year old cars bought used with cash, and is having their home equity chewed up, their 401k pillaged, their future purchasing power destroyed, and no possible way to ‘get ahead’ (per today’s measures), paying into a system with nothing to so for it… All because borrowers/lenders destroyed the credit system and the gov’t is destroying the fiat system, the school system was destroyed long ago, and the culture/civilization mores are all relative (and equally worthless)…

    25th July 2011 at 1:09 pm

  73. brian says:

    Actually, what the slave whispered at the Roman parade was “Cave ne cadas” – literally, be careful not to fall.

    25th July 2011 at 1:55 pm

  74. M Thornton says:

    BTW – it’s do do bird. The [deep] doo doo bird is the one whose cry is given by Rodney Copperbottom in the animated movie, “Robots.”

    25th July 2011 at 2:29 pm

  75. indeed says:

    I’m a “po’” person, so ignore me if you’re an Oprah fan.

    Welfare has always had a place in all societies. The problem is not the fact that we have welfare – that’s a good thing. The problem is that we take everything else away from the individual to get it, no protection from it and then we have ABSOLUTELY no way out of it.

    I’m looking for one of those armchair financial advisors who has a suggestion. Any help is very welcome and it won’t cost you dime (maybe a brain cell or two).

    For the article: I could pick it apart, but it’s not worth it. Without any deep thinking, it’s very amusing.

    25th July 2011 at 4:34 pm

  76. Administrator says:

    indeed

    Please, please, pick it apart. We are honored to be in your presence. We seek your wisdom. Please amuse us with your vast knowledge.

    25th July 2011 at 4:44 pm

  77. Muck About says:

    @indeed: WTF do you want advise on? Charity has always had a place in society – not fucking WELFARE.

    Clarify please…

    MA

    25th July 2011 at 4:56 pm

  78. Tony says:

    Nice article. Some of those numbers are staggering. $15K in credit card debt per household? That is unreal.

    About the BMW’s, i was talking to my wife the other day about how many new BMW’s and Audi’s are on the road. If you were an alien from another planet you would never think we were in a economic crisis judging by the cars you see on the road these days. Every 25 year old college grad is driving around in a BMW 330 or Audi A4 and making 40K a year, if they’re lucky!

    25th July 2011 at 5:04 pm

  79. llpoh says:

    Admin – you are going soft. Suspicious is still standing, although a bit wobbly, and Indeed is barely bloodied.

    Indeed – it is much more difficult today for young people to rise through the social stratus. However, as Muck pointed out, and as I for one am living proof, that almost any boomer, or near boomer, worth his salt has had ample opportunity to achieve financial independence. Hard work, education and thrift would have seen it done.

    For today’s young, hard work, education and thrift are no cast iron guarantees of success, for a wide range of reasons. However, any young person has the opportunity to work hard and get educated, and to implement a thrifty lifestyle . Any of them. Which will assuredly be of help to them in the future.

    Indee- btw, you have made TBP list of fuckwits. I would like to say you are in illustrious company, but you are not.

    25th July 2011 at 7:45 pm

  80. brann says:

    the peacock syndrome is here on tbp –its called the like or dislike button—the more action the bigger the…………….

    25th July 2011 at 7:46 pm

  81. Administrator says:

    llpoh

    I’m getting soft in my old age.

    25th July 2011 at 8:11 pm

  82. Marcus Marcellus says:

    Any college sophomore can write a vapid little essay about conspicuous consumption. Has it occurred to you that some us can actually afford our Porsches? One works to live not lives to work. Life is for enjoying.

    25th July 2011 at 9:36 pm

  83. Administrator says:

    Marcus

    I thought you had the vapid market cornered with your moronic comments. Has it occurred to you that you’re a douchebag? I guess the world needs pricks and dickheads so the rest of us know who we don’t want to become. Thanks for providing us all an example to not follow.

    25th July 2011 at 9:48 pm

  84. llpoh says:

    Marcellus – welcome! We are always happy to welcome newbie fucktards to the site! Welcome! Welcome!

    25th July 2011 at 9:52 pm

  85. llpoh says:

    Marcus heading out to take hisorsche for a spin:

    www_plus613_com_DickHead.jpg

    25th July 2011 at 9:59 pm

  86. Golden Tool says:

    Those glasses are awesome. I’d be the life of the party, as long as they are gold rimmed.

    25th July 2011 at 10:15 pm

  87. Simple and Loving it says:

    Sold my Bmw M Roadster and paid cash for my ” new ” 1994 Ford Bronco! :)

    26th July 2011 at 2:42 pm

  88. Petey says:

    Suspicious stated that we here at TBP need “to start thinking for ourselves.” Umm, the opinions that are expressed on here are well outside the mainstream. Also, the regulars on here either had/have their own business or work halfway decent jobs. You know they looked in the mirror and thought: “The reason I’m at where I’m at and where I’m going is totally up to me.” They didn’t go into sheeple rants about “the powers that be” and other illuminati pigman bullshit.

    Also, unions set themselves up for destruction as soon as, well, as soon as they unionize.

    All that welfare has accomplished is keeping a certain demographic down.

    Marcus – yes Porsche’s are for those who can afford it. Not for some wannabe who has to borrow, end up defaulting, causing bank problems, etc. Read past the first sentence.

    26th July 2011 at 7:09 pm

  89. Petey says:

    I’m a recent college grad too. So all you dailykos, democractic underground ideologues: tough shit! Look in the fucking mirror for a change

    26th July 2011 at 7:15 pm

  90. llpoh says:

    Hey Petey – way cool!

    26th July 2011 at 7:27 pm

  91. ed says:

    Hey SSS and NoVista! Good to see you again.

    Public transportation is a boondoggle, and has been since its inception. If public transportation’s customers had to actually pay the real costs of using it instead of stealing gasoline tax revenues meant for highway construction to subsidize its construction and operation, a Manhattanite could rent a limo more cheaply than riding the subway.

    High speed rail is another wet dream of the left. There is no such thing as high speed passenger rail. It does not exist anywhere on the planet. Sure, there are several pricey little trains that hit 200-300 mph on their routes, but it must accelerate from a dead stop leaving the station and it must slow to zero speed at the next station, and sit at zero speed while all the passenger embark/disembark. Do not try informing me of regenerative braking, etc. Trying to sell this in America to link “major” cities fifty to one hundred miles apart is asinine, and it is promoted by people who stand to gain from skimming government funds and idiots “edjumicated” at public expense.

    Over my life, I certainly have not been as frugal in many areas as I should have been. Racecars slapping their $400 tire and wheel assemblies into concrete walls does not build wealth. I started straightening up a bit when I married 15 years ago. The fairly recent purchase of a small farm has not really impacted my net worth (or lack thereof) due to improvements made on it over the last few years and lack of desire to use it as a cash cow. I’m just raising a few cows! One more tractor payment (annual) and it’s done. We bought a used SUV last year instead of new. The little turbo roadster has a 0% loan and we have some equity in it and a short time left. We need some more hay equipment, fence and fruit trees but things are coming along. It takes time, dedication and hard work to start a farm from scratch, sort of like what is required to get off the dole.

    As for Suspicious and others with similar attitudes, you folk are why I have become a customer of Trijicon. Go with God, or cross this property line and meet him. Warning shots will NOT be fired.

    26th July 2011 at 10:43 pm

  92. Sterling Too says:

    If you buy an inexpensive but reliable car, pay cash and drive it for at least 10 years you will, within 20 years save enough money to buy the third car for essentially free.

    26th July 2011 at 11:33 pm

  93. Timeisrunningout says:

    I must confess guilt here. We have 5 in our family and a car for each, but one is sitting idle. college Kids cars are beaters buying 1 for $1900 and the other two were picked up for free (one 03 Ford Escape, with 190,000 miles picked up in Piperville PA)

    Article is on point though I really don’t think most Americans have changed their ways despite the recent economic trials. Restaurants are still full in the strip malls, luxury cars are still the hot ticket and credit cards offers are still plentiful.

    26th July 2011 at 11:50 pm

  94. Novista says:

    ed

    Good to see you posting again, I like the finish!

    27th July 2011 at 7:22 am

  95. oilfield7550 says:

    In the end, we’re all put in the same sized casket. Yours may be bronze and mine pine, but neither of us will be remembered very long except by close family members, no matter how big our homes were or how many cars we owned. I hope to die with a zero balance, having paid all my bills and, if anything’s left, to gift it to a worthy charity. And if there’s an after-life, I hope we both reach our intended destination.

    27th July 2011 at 11:26 am

  96. Window Washer to the Wannabes says:

    All these insecure spendthrift cunts have done, in purchasing crappy but expensive homes and cars, is set themselves up to be targets when law and order breaks down – when blacks and Mexicans are ‘encouraged’ by the elite to pillage those neighborhoods.

    I believe the quality was intentionally removed from these late-model and trendy homes and cars, so as to keep virtuous and intelligent people from falling into this trap. It provides justification for the pillage to come, “because they were dumbfucks.”

    28th July 2011 at 11:05 am

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