IS ADMIN AN ANTI-CAPITALIST?

Well, of course he isn’t. But I never thought I’d see the day when Admin attacked one of the most successful businesses in America, Southwest Airlines. Why? All because Southwest had the effrontery to kick off Green Day band member Billie Joe Armstrong from a flight because this slug got on the flight with the waistband of his pants somewhere close to his knee caps while revealing a butt crack which would make a member of a plumber’s union blush. Oh, the horror. Southwest enforced some modicum of decorum from its passengers on its flights. What next? Saying “please” and “thank you”?

ACTUAL MUGSHOT, WITHOUT EYE LINER, OF BILLIE JOE ARMSTRONG AFTER A DUI ARREST

BILLIE JOE WITH EYE LINER. WHERE’S THE LIPSTICK?

Billie Joe Armstrong

Here’s how it went down between Admin and me on the thread of “Farewell WYSP.”

SSS posts article of Armstrong getting booted off of a Southwest flight from Oakland to Burbank.

ADMIN: “Southwest Airlines Eats Shit. Are you actually condoning people getting thrown off airplanes because their pants are sagging? I guess that Federal Government mindset still breaths (sic) in you.”

SSS: “Are you against private businesses like Southwest Airlines which create thousands of jobs and SUCCEED? I could care less whether Southwest kicked this punk off their plane because of his low riders. It is THEIR AIRPLANE AND THEIR DECISION TO MAKE, not some government drone frisking little girls at a security checkpoint. If Southwest’s actions offend the public in general, then it’ll read about it on the bottom line of its annual report. This has absolutely nothing to do with a federal government mindset, but everything to do with letting a business alone and letting them run its show the way it sees fit.”

(edited) “Southwest Airlines commenced Customer Service on June 18, 1971, with three Boeing 737 aircraft serving three Texas cities-Houston, Dallas, and San Antonio. Today, Southwest operates 550 Boeing 737 aircraft among 72 cities. Yearend results for 2010 marked Southwest’s 38th consecutive year of profitability. Southwest is the United States’ most successful low fare, high frequency, point-to-point carrier. Southwest operates more than 3,400 flights a day coast-to-coast, making it the largest U.S. carrier based on domestic passengers carried as of December 31, 2010.

ADMIN: “Nice copy and paste about Southwest. It seems their reputation is doing better than their actual results. Their profits are on track to be down 30% this year and their stock has collapsed from $14 to $8.”

————————–end of thread————————–

You seem to be focused on profits and stock prices, Admin. Well, so what? Businesses have good years, and they have bad years. What else is new? Try and focus on the price of oil, please, since it is a harbinger of the profit margin of the airline industry. Anyway, you like people to bring facts and figures to the table when they show up on TBP. I did so with my “copy and paste” response above, which didn’t seem to meet your threshold of truth. So chew on these.

—-Southwest Airlines employs nearly 35,000 people. Those are PURE tax-paying jobs, in addition to Southwest’s corporate taxes.

—-Southwest Airlines has bought 550 Boeing 737 jet airliners. Tell me that hasn’t helped one of America’s most important manufacturers. Tell me that hasn’t helped Boeing’s growth. Southwest has been the LAUNCH CUSTOMER for the Boeing 737 300/500/700 series of jets. What that means is that these aircraft were first ordered and bought by Southwest. Let me put it more simply: Southwest Airlines has been critical to Boeing aircraft sales.

Want some more facts, Admin? Will a pie or bar chart help?

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llpoh
llpoh
September 4, 2011 10:48 pm

Admin – it is long-established TBP tradition to come in late, throw a few jabs, and claim victory. I landed an uppercut and so claim victory. Live with it. All your sparring earlier accounts for nada.

Administrator
Administrator
Admin
  SSS
September 5, 2011 8:16 am

SSS

Have you ever heard the old line: “The customer is always right”?

Oh yeah. You worked in government your whole life. You didn’t care about customers.

As government drones are best at, you continue to defend the position that the company reversed within minutes.

Faux libertarians are so easy to kick in the balls.

Rommel
Rommel
September 5, 2011 4:05 am

What’s so beautiful is you guys are all fighting over this:
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Rommel
Rommel
September 5, 2011 4:11 am

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AWD
AWD
September 5, 2011 1:36 pm

SouthWorst has expanded their business plan:

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Administrator
Administrator
Admin
September 5, 2011 2:01 pm

Results of a poll taken shortly after the incident.

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llpoh
llpoh
September 5, 2011 9:00 pm

Admin comes out with one of the stupidest quotes ever “the customer is always right”. What a load of horseshit.

I make a career out of booting bad customers. My first year with this business I booted out over 80% of my “customers”. That is right – 80%! Because they were 1) a pain in my ass, 2) they caused me nothing but trouble (I am the customer, I am always right!”), and 3) I didn’t make any money on them because of 1 + 2. I have dropped more customers than I can count. Who needs bad customers? Customers have responsibilities too, you know.

The fact is it is a two way contract – the seller is a customer, too, in his/her own way. The seller offers to provide a service or products under a given set of circumstances, and subject to a set of terms. In my business I require timely orders, that the customer pay on time, that the customer supplies accurate specifications, that the customer uses the product appropriately, etc. In return I promise to provide the parts to a given time at a given cost at a given quality. If the customer doesn’t hold up his/her end of the bargain, then I give them the boot. Bad customers will and do drive companies broke. All of the time.

Poorly dressed/stinky/fat “customers” can cause a lot of problems to an airline. Someone sitting next to them may decide never to use the airline again. They can cause you trouble with your staff, too. Funny howe these same sorts are also a pain in the ass as they do not tend to follow norms of behavior.

Come on, Admin, get a grip. You are on the wrong side of this argument. You are getting your ass kicked.

llpoh
llpoh
September 5, 2011 9:02 pm

Admin – please post the survey taken just before the incident.

Administrator
Administrator
Admin
  llpoh
September 6, 2011 8:22 am

LLPOH’s theory on publicity – Any publicity is good publicity.

I guess when a Southwest Airlines jet crashes due to poor maintenance, they will be thrilled.

LLPOH’s theory on publicity may be the stupidest theory in the history of man.

I bet if one of your products kills someone, your company will get a huge amount of publicity. I bet you’d love it.

Smokey
Smokey
September 5, 2011 9:35 pm

Administrator,

You’d be winning this battle if it weren’t for SSS or Hope or llpoh.

llpoh
llpoh
September 5, 2011 9:40 pm

Smokey – he makes mincemeat of DP and his ilk, but when up against – gasp – educated folks with real experience and intelligence he folds like a cheap tent. His rejoinder will be to call us all neo-capitalists and post some more funny photos. I think he has spent too much time around academics and needs to move back to the real world before he loses all touch with reality.

Smokey
Smokey
September 5, 2011 9:46 pm

llpoh,

I think he’ll be squared away once I finally straighten out his politics. It will take a little more work.

His Ron Paul fixation should abate in the next republican debate or two, as soon as Ron Paul is finally viewed by the consensus as dangerously delusional and unfit for public office.

There is always hope for redemption.

llpoh
llpoh
September 6, 2011 8:35 am

ALMOST any publicity. Almost any. Booting a tranny rocker off a plane – well , that is good publicity.

Administrator
Administrator
Admin
  llpoh
September 6, 2011 8:46 am

Look at LLPOH backtracking like a cur. Run cur, run.

platoplubius
platoplubius
September 7, 2011 12:03 am

Check out this ridiculous RT report on “Sagging!” Wow! I never thought I’d ever find anything I’d agree with Obama on…but at the end of the video when he says “Brothers, you need to pull up your pants!” I was like! Holy Shit! Are pigs flying?! I know PIIGS are dying…but are any flying?! SHEEeeeAAATTTT SON!

game
game
June 24, 2014 1:11 am

Wow that was strange. I just wrote an extremely long comment but
after I clicked submit my comment didn’t appear. Grrrr…
well I’m not writing all that over again. Anyhow, just wanted to say excellent blog!

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 24, 2014 7:40 am

Geez SSS, live in the past much? I know you’re old but you gotta live in the present man!

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