Once Janet Nepalatano, the Queen of DHS, announced a credible terrorist threat, I knew I had to jump into action. The threat level was clearly elevated. We had reached Elmo Red threat level.

And then when our resident TBP terrorist threat analyst declared unequivically that September 12th would be the day of a devastating terrorist attack on our country, I was sure I had to make a run for it. You had to take this guy seriously. He’s a Boomer and has never been wrong in his entire life.

I was sure there were hundreds of suitcase nukes planted all over the country. I envisioned mushroom clouds across the land. The horror!!!

So, I jumped in my car and high tailed it to my Wildwood condo last night after work.

I had thought this through. Muslims hate water. They also would be kept away by the chocolate covered bacon sold on the boardwalk. Plus, think of the bad publicity they would get if they blew up my Section 8 black neighbors. My plan was foolproof.

I didn’t really go down to my condo to clean it before my next tenant goes in. I wasn’t down on my hands and knees in the bathroom cleaning pubic hairs off the floor, I was cowering in fear from the Muslim menace that lurks behind every bush.

It was a fearful evening, as our TBP analyst was sure of the imminent attack. But, then the clock ticked 8:00 pm and all was well. The GOP Presidential Debate came on CNN and all my fear and worry dissipated. What a fine group of patriots. And the Tea Party crowd at the debate was wonderful. They must have all had Mensa level IQs. Our country is in great hands with these men and women at the helm.

I think a ticket of Gingrich/Santorum would do wonders for our country. Behind the mantle of Jesus Christ and American Exceptionalism, this tandem would put an end to this pussy footing around and take out Iran, North Korea, Syria and any other ragheads that act up. Newt rightfully pointed out that tripling war spending in the last ten years is disgraceful. We should have quintupled it. Think of the jobs. The deficits wouldn’t exist because we could have plundered the riches of all the countries we would have invaded. With Jesus on our side any torture or collateral damage caused by our drones and cruise missiles is justified.

I can’t understand how Santorum lost his PA Senate seat by 16%. Maybe it is the foaming at the mouth issue he has when he addresses Ron Paul.

It is shocking to me that if you add up Gingrich’s and Santorum’s support in the polls, you get a number lower than a snake’s ass. The Fox News Tea Party is out for blood. They are itching for a good old fashion Christian/Muslim Armageddon showdown. But don’t cut their Medicare or Social Security.

Rick Perry was under blistering attack during the debate. In my opinion, he deflected it pretty well. He has essentially stolen most of Ron Paul’s hot button issues. He has called Bernanke treasonous, declared he is for sound money, called Social Security a ponzi scheme, and actually said we need to bring the troops home from Afghanistan. His low taxes, more jobs Texas story is connecting with the Republican base. He has somehow been able to hide his religious fundamentalist extremism, just as GWB did in 2000.

Southerners will never get behind Romney. He is considered a smooth talking Yankee Mormon. Perry will win the Republican nomination.

There are only a few states actually in play in the general election. Nevada, Florida, and Ohio have some of the worst economic problems in the country. People vote their pocketbook. If two of these states go Perry’s way, he wins in 2012. I expect the economic situation to worsen across the board between now and November 2012. Perry may win in a landslide. The Grey Champion of the Fourth Turning has arrived on stage.

When I departed Wildwood this morning at 5:45 am for my almost two hour trek to work, I turned on the radio to listen to the reports of the terrorist attacks. I was SHOCKED to hear that none had taken place. I’m sure we owe it to the 50,000 noble warriors at DHS that foiled the Muslim terrorists. Remember, turn in anyone that doesn’t look like you. It’s the American way.


  1. Bravo. Excellent article.

    Unfortunately, Newt doesn’t win in 2012.

    Neither does Paul.

    Neither does Perry.

    Obama will win another term.

    And then, the only question that will remain is—how will they do it?

    How will the legion of Fourth Turning believers spin the election? They will be in an EXTREMELY tough spot. Their credibility will be out the door. No Fourth Turning messiah, as per the fairy tale.
    And they will full well know that this country will fall before another person has a chance to be elected president.

    AHA!!!! I have figured it out. The believers will alter their story to say that the messiah IS Obama, and it was him all along. And then they will say that Strauss and Howe had forecast it perfectly in their book (novel).


    PS—I have received updated neocon intelligence that the attack date was slightly modified to include the entire month of September. The location is still DC.

  2. Smokey = The new TBP Reverse Engineer Forecaster of the Year Award Winner

    When at first you don’t succeed, adjust the forecast.


  3. Smokey, the Fourth Turning doesn’t say that there’s a “4T Messiah.” It says that elections **CAN** be a catalyst in a 4T (as Lincoln’s election was), but not that the president is the person who solves the Crisis. It’s about societal reactions to events, not who’s leading it.

    1. Thinker

      Smokey is just trying to provoke a reaction. It is a common juvenile trait of Boomers. Don’t pay him no mind. He’s still a little on edge waiting for the Mooslim terrorists to attack at any moment.

      As a Boomer, he is now hoping for an attack so he can say he told me so. They are a noble lot.

    2. FACT CHECK: Social Security prompts debate miscues

      WASHINGTON — Rick Perry 1.0 thought Social Security was a “disease” inflicted on the population by the federal government.

      Rick Perry 2.0 thinks Social Security deserves to be saved “for generations to come.”

      That metamorphosis by the Republican presidential hopeful over recent months contributed to some factual stretches Monday night in a GOP debate, both by the Texas governor and his opponents for the nomination.

      A look at some of the claims in the debate and how they compare with the facts:


      PERRY: On Social Security for younger workers, “No one’s had the courage to stand up and say, here is how we’re going to reform it.”

      THE FACTS: Many have done just that. Former President George W. Bush and a variety of Republicans since, including some running for president now, have stood for the position that Social Security should be partially privatized, enabling younger workers to divert some of their payroll taxes to individual investment accounts while the entitlement program is kept whole for those already using it or close to retirement.


      MITT ROMNEY: “The real issue is, in writing his book, Gov. Perry pointed out that in his view that Social Security is unconstitutional, that this is not something the federal government ought to be involved in, that instead it should be given back to the states.”

      THE FACTS: Perry indeed roundly criticized Social Security in his book, but not quite to the point of calling it unconstitutional. In words he is trying to walk back now, Perry branded the program the “best example” of the “fraud” and “bad disease” spread by Washington in Franklin Roosevelt’s New Deal. Perry furthermore criticized the Supreme Court of that era for “abdicating its role as the protector of constitutional federalism.”

      That falls somewhere short of declaring Social Security unconstitutional.

      Perry now has abandoned such rhetoric, adopting the conventional Republican view in a USA Today column Monday that its finances must be made whole to protect current and imminent retirees and make it viable for “generations to come.”


      MICHELE BACHMANN: Obama “stole over $500 billion out of Medicare to switch it over to Obamacare. … These are programs that need to be saved to serve people, and in their current form, they can’t.”

      ROMNEY: “He cut Medicare by $500 billion. This is a Democrat president. The liberal, so to speak, cut Medicare. Not Republicans, the Democrat.”

      THE FACTS: “Stole” is a hyperbolic way to describe the kinds of shifts in budget priorities that happen every day in Washington. To pay for expanded insurance coverage, Obama’s health care law cuts $500 billion in payments to the Medicare Advantage program — which a congressional agency said was being overpaid — and to hospitals and nursing homes. Nearly all House Republicans, including Bachmann, later voted for a GOP budget plan that retained the same cuts Obama had made.


      PERRY: The $814 billion economic stimulus program pushed by President Barack Obama “created zero jobs.”

      THE FACTS: There is no support for that assertion. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said last year that the stimulus increased the number of people employed by between 1.4 million and 3.3 million as of mid-2010. It cut the unemployment rate between 0.7 and 1.8 percentage points, the CBO found.

      Economists debate whether the stimulus lived up to its promise or was worth the cost, but no one seriously argues that it created no jobs. Many believe it helped to end the recession even while falling short of its employment goals.


      BACHMANN: “I was one of the only people in Washington that said do not raise the debt ceiling. Don’t give the president of the United States another $2.4 trillion blank check.”

      THE FACTS: Love or hate the debt deal, it was not a blank check for the president. Congress controls spending. The president can only suggest how the budget should be divvied up. Moreover, the “check” was not exactly blank. The deal that averted a national default requires automatic spending cuts to kick in if Congress does not accept cuts that will be proposed by a supercommittee.


      RON PAUL: As a Texan, “my taxes have gone up. Our taxes have doubled since (Perry’s) been in office. Our spending has gone up double. Our debt has gone up nearly tripled.” Perry responded that he had cut taxes by $14 billion in 65 different pieces of legislation.

      THE FACTS: Even though they seem to be contradicting each other, both have a point. Overall, the tax burden has grown, but shifted to some extent from state to local governments. Based on statewide tax collection figures, it is quite probable that Paul’s total tax burden has doubled. But Perry did sign 65 pieces of legislation that reduced taxes. Taxes would be much higher in Texas if those laws had not gone into effect.

      As for spending, it’s reaching $86 billion in the next two years, up from $56 billion in Perry’s first two years as governor. That’s not quite double, as Paul claimed.

      Texas’ debt has tripled, primarily because of a Perry-backed move that allows the state to finance road construction with bonds instead of having to use cash.

  4. Thinker,

    The 4T is a vacuous theory. It is specious. It takes some anomalies and attempts to give them legitimacy.

    For instance, it was stated very recently on this board that there were “surpluses as far as the eye could see “, right up until the moment the USA got hit on 9/11.

    ANY thinking person has no choice but to conclude that the 9/11 attacks RADICALLY ALTERED this county’s destiny by probably a decade, at least.


    Are you saying that the 4Turning predicted 9/11?

    Because 9/11 RADICALLY altered the history of this country.

    So without the USA getting hit, you and all the other travelers would be scrambling frantically to modify the time elements of your bogus theory so that it would fit the reality of real life events.

    Regarding the alleged messiah, it has been repeatedly stated here that a messiah steps fourth in the Fourth Turning.

    Does your fourth turning apply to other countries too? If not, why is it unique to this culture?

    1. Thinker

      There will always be the non-thinking masses who are incapable of understanding how the day to day events are part of a bigger cycle of history. These people tend to be linear thinkers. They are always shocked and surprised by the Turnings of history. It is a shame that these non-thinking dupes don’t have the time to read a 300 page book. Willful ignorance is a trait found quite commonly in Boomers. They also tend to be very poor forecasters. And have microscopic penises.

  5. Smokey,

    Again, it’s societal response to the catalyst event that signals a 4T. The response to 9/11 was very 3T — it was not the beginning of the Crisis.

    Regarding your question, if you read Strauss & Howe, you’ll see that they’ve been able to map the Turning cycle back to most modern, Western Civilizations. Other scholars have noted that Asian cultures are on their own, repeating cycles, but that they differ from the cycles noted in Fourth Turning. Their societies are different and, therefore, have different responses and different timelines. And yes, even Europe is on a slightly skewed timeframe than the U.S. is.

    It’s all there, if you care to look. Unless you’re just in it for the provocation, as Jim believes.

  6. Thinker,

    Did Strauss and Howe map the Turning cycle back to Canada, Mexico, Cuba, Greenland, Brazil, Argentina, Columbia, Ecuador, Venezuela, Chile, Panama, Peru ?—-these are Western Civilizations.

    Do those countries each have their own 4T, or are they part of ours?

    Or do they get a pass, because they don’t fit the Theory?

    Regarding a SOCIETAL RESPONSE to a catalyst event, the 4T theory is taking ARBITRARILY any event and calling it after the fact the catalyst event.

    I’m curious as to what Strauss and Howe claim is the catalyst event for this 4T. Have they named it, or will they wait and then decide what it was after things unwind?

    History proves that great nations rise and fall like the tides come in and out.

    But, as far as predictable eighty year cycles that Strauss and Howe have ingeniously discovered through dedication and hard work I’m not buying it.

    Did S & H indicate how long these 80 yr cycles continue, or does this country continue the 4T cycles for eternity?

  7. True, I haven’t read the book.

    But I’ve read enough on Wiki and other net sites to know it’s a crock.

    Incidentally, I have NOT seen the Theory motherfucked anywhere. Just by me.

    4T = Rorschach Inkblot test.

    1. Thinker

      Boomers are able to comment on books they have never read, in an authoritative manner because they checked out Wikipedia.

      The myopia, intellectual laziness, and delusion of some Boomers is on display for all to witness.

      I would be shocked by the pitiful excuse for research, but Boomers will be Boomers. Always sure of themselves, but wrong most of the time.

      If people are unwilling to put in three or four hours of reading, then it isn’t worth your time to try and convince them of something they have already decided is untrue.

      Pathetic is all I can muster.

  8. Yeah, you really need to read the book. It would make all those questions quite clear. S&H are the first ones to admit it’s not a perfect theory. But you’d definitely understand that if you looked into it.

  9. Doing some research on the 4T.

    While the 4th Turning doesn’t make predictions, it does provide for four possible outcomes. They are;

    1.—- This 4thT COULD MARK THE END OF MAN.

    It could be an omnicidal Armageddon, destroying everything, leaving nothing. If mankind ever extinguishes itself, this will probably happen when its dominant civilization triggers a Fourth Turning that ends horribly. For this Fourth Turning to put an end to all this would require an extremely unlikely blend of social disaster, human malevolence, technological perfection and bad luck.


    The Western saecular rythm – which began in the mid-fifteenth century with the Renaissance – could come to an abrupt terminus. The seventh modern saeculum would be the last. This too could come from total war, terrible but not final. There could be a complete collapse of science, culture, politics, and society. Such a dire result would probably happen only when a dominant nation (like today’s America) lets a Fourth Turning ekpyrosis engulf the planet. But this outcome is well within the reach of foreseeable technology and malevolence.


    It could close the book on the political constitution, popular culture, and moral standing that the word America has come to signify. The nation has endured for three saecula; Rome lasted twelve, the Soviet Union only one. Fourth Turnings are critical thresholds for national survival. Each of the last three American Crises produced moments of extreme danger: In the Revolution, the very birth of the republic hung by a thread in more than one battle. In the Civil War, the union barely survived a four-year slaughter that in its own time was regarded as the most lethal war in history. In World War II, the nation destroyed an enemy of democracy that for a time was winning; had the enemy won, America might have itself been destroyed. In all likelihood, the next Crisis will present the nation with a threat and a consequence on a similar scale.


    Mankind, modernity, and America would all persevere. Afterward, there would be a new mood, a new High, and a new saeculum. America would be reborn. But, reborn, it would not be the same


    Well, that pretty much covers every possible option. So, when a person (like, Smokey) criticizes some aspect of the 4thT I wonder how that’s possible when S&H provide for all outcomes.

    Therefore, Strauss & Howe have no idea how this will end … they never even attempt to make such a claim. Again, they do NOT make predictions!

    All they are doing is showing that history is cyclical, or has patterns that repeat. One can argue the minutae of when one cycle starts, what caused it, etc. …. but to actually deny that there are cycles to human activity (history) seems incredibly short sighted to me.

  10. ***ALERT *** !!

    Smokey will probably accuse me of planting my lips around Admin’s cock.

    I once made the same mistake … criticizing S&H for making predicitions. Admin set me straight. Now I see the light.

    THIS is why I am The Judge … and a damn good one at that.

  11. Smokey, when you try to summarize a book in one sentence you could ask, “You need a book to tell you that?” about ANY book.

    You are just stirring shit.

    When Smokey looks in a mirror: Fact or Fantasy?

  12. Back to the originial article.

    The map has New Jersey as a blue state.That normally seems like a very safe bet, but this time around I’m not so sure about that.

    Ms Freud and most of her freinds, and mine, voted Obama. But, most of those people can’t stand Obama anymore. I would guess that 80% of our Obama friends will not vote for Obama again, or not vote at all. Of course, we are not part of the FSA–New Jersey Division, of which there are Legion. Still, I wouldn’t write off NJ as a blue-state just yet.

  13. “A firm rule must be imposed upon our nation before it destroys itself. The United States needs some theology and geometry, some taste and decency. I suspect that we are teetering on the edge of the abyss.”

    Ignatius J. Reilly

  14. Jim, my GUESS is that given that choice they won’t vote at all.

    A handful of our friends have actually come around to say Ron Paul is an interesting candidate. They think the rest of the Repubs are a collection of stinky dogshit. To which I agree.

  15. Well, I’m already up to 3 thumbs down on my 4thT post. What did I say wrong, Jim? You know if I get my feelings hurt, I’m outta here.

  16. Administrator,

    “….Boomers will be Boomers. Always sure of themselves, but wrong most of the time.”

    If you are going to plagiarize my one-liners, I’d appreciate if you didn’t fuck them up.

    The CORRECT line is: “…..Boomers will be Boomers. Frequently wrong, but never in doubt.”

    Write it down, so the next time you plagiarize it, it will be an accurate rendition.

  17. Stuck

    Smokey, llpoh, and SSS move in a pack like mangy curs. Sometimes, when he has trouble remembering where his desktop computer is, Muck joins the pack.

    They are harmless mutts. Don’t let those thumbs down get you down.


  18. Wherever we’re headed, America is evolving in ways most of us don’t like or understand. Individually focused yet collectively adrift, we wonder if we’re heading toward a waterfall. Are we?” – Strauss & Howe

    “Reflect on what happens when a terrible winter blizzard strikes. You hear the weather warning but probably fail to act on it. The sky darkens. Then the storm hits with full fury, and the air is a howling whiteness. One by one, your links to the machine age break down. Electricity flickers out, cutting off the TV. Batteries fade, cutting off the radio. Phones go dead. Roads become impossible, and cars get stuck. Food supplies dwindle. Day to day vestiges of modern civilization – bank machines, mutual funds, mass retailers, computers, satellites, airplanes, governments – all recede into irrelevance. Picture yourself and your loved ones in the midst of a howling blizzard that lasts several years. Think about what you would need, who could help you, and why your fate might matter to anybody other than yourself. That is how to plan for a saecular winter. Don’t think you can escape the Fourth Turning. History warns that a Crisis will reshape the basic social and economic environment that you now take for granted.” – Strauss & Howe

    “The ‘spirit of America’ comes once a saeculum, only through what the ancients called ekpyrosis, nature’s fiery moment of death and discontinuity. History’s periodic eras of Crisis combust the old social order and give birth to a new. A Fourth Turning is a solstice era of maximum darkness, in which the supply of social order is still falling—but the demand for order is now rising. It is the saeculum’s hibernal, its time of trial. Nature exacts its fatal payment and pitilessly sorts out the survivors and the doomed. Pleasures recede, tempests hurt, pretense is exposed, and toughness rewarded—all in a season.” – Strauss & Howe

    Thus might the next Fourth Turning end in apocalypse – or glory. The nation could be ruined, its democracy destroyed, and millions of people scattered or killed. Or America could enter a new golden age, triumphantly applying shared values to improve the human condition. The rhythms of history do not reveal the outcome of the coming Crisis; all they suggest is the timing and dimension. – Strauss & Howe

    A Fourth Turning harnesses the seasons of life to bring about a renewal in the seasons of time. In so doing, it provides passage through the great discontinuities of history and closes the full circle of the saeculum. The Fourth Turning is when the Spirit of America reappears, rousing courage and fortitude from the people. History is seasonal, but its outcomes are not foreordained. Much will depend on how tall we stand in the trials to come. – Strauss & Howe

  19. We shouldn’t pull the plug on the Boomers…

    Better yet, we should round them all up and like the great Pharoahs of old, utilize their numbers to erect gargantuan, timeless statues of Strauss and Howe in every major metropolis…

  20. Admins is still not over the pasting he got the other day – he’s got to throw in out of context barbs just to try and regain some self esteem! Ha!

    Stucky, I wouldn’t have minded having that one for a teacher – the ones I had (before escaping their clutches forever) were all scrawny, old, ugly and several didn’t smell very good either.


  21. The current director of the CIA, General David Petraeus commented publicly TODAY that his concern over a 9/11 anniversary attack is NOT restricted to the day of September 11, 2011.

    He said his concern has always been that an anniversary attack would occur within the general time of September 11, INCLUDING the rest of this September.

    Petraeus, for those of you unfamiliar, is the one that handled the SURGE in Iraq, that so many said would fail. Of course, it did not fail, no matter how bad you want to believe otherwise. Poll the American people, and at least 95% will admit the surge worked.

    My question is: When we get hit, will you curs INSTANTLY chalk it up to your favorite word, BLOWBACK? After all, according to Ron Paul, 9/11 2001 was blowback.

    Incidentally, he got his cur ass humiliated and loudly booed last night when Rick Santorum told the viewing audience about Paul’s home web page and how it blames America for 9/11.

    What say you, curs?


      Iraq suicide bomb toll revealedSuicide bombers in Iraq have killed 12,000 civilians and 200 coalition soldiers since war began, study finds

      Suicide bombers in Iraq have killed at least 12,000 civilians and 200 coalition soldiers, according to a study.

      The research paper, by Dr Madelyn Hsiao-Rei Hicks of King’s College London, the London-based Iraq Body Count and others, describes suicide bombs in Iraq as “a major public health problem”, killing significantly more civilians than soldiers. It is published as part of a Lancet series on the health consequences of 9/11.

      Among the reasons for the high civilian death toll is the difficulty of getting victims to hospital quickly enough for emergency treatment. The study finds children are more likely to die than adults if they are injured in a suicide bombing.

      Using data amassed by the Iraq Body Count, which collects verified reports of deaths and injuries, as well as other data on military deaths, the authors say more than 30,000 Iraqi civilians were injured by suicide bombs between 20 March 2003 and 31 December 2010, and 12,284 Iraqi civilians were killed in more than 1,000 suicide bombings. These amounted to 10% of civilian deaths and 25% of civilian injuries from armed violence in that period, they say.

      About a third of the Iraqi fatalities (3,963) were demographically identifiable. Of those, 75% were men, 11% were women and 14% were children. An Iraqi child died in at least 159 (16%) of the 1,003 suicide bombings and a woman or child in at least 211 (21%).

      In the same period, 200 coalition soldiers were killed in suicide attacks. Of those, 175 were from the

      US in 76 attacks, 16 were Italian in one attack, three were British in one bombing and four Bulgarians and two Thai soldiers died in one incident.

      “Suicide bombers in Iraq use suicide bombs strategically as cost-effective, precise, highly destructive weapons,” say the authors. The Iraqi civilian population suffers substantially because it is “a primary chosen target of suicide bombers and those who deploy them”.

  22. Bush’s stated goal of the surge:

    “Strengthen the rule of law and combat corruption. Build on security gains to foster local and national political accommodations. Make Iraqi institutions even-handed, serving all of Iraq’s communities on an impartial basis.”

    Yeah right. Huge success.

    Barrels of oil per day imported from Iraq in 2001 by the USA: 745,000 barrels per day

    Barrels of oil per day imported from Iraq in 2010 by the USA: 405,000 barrels per day

  23. Baghdad mosque suicide bombing kills 28, wounds 40

    BAGHDAD, Aug. 28 (Xinhua) — A suicide bombing rattled through a mosque in Iraq’s capital Baghdad late on Sunday, killing 28 people and wounding at least 40 others, a local police source said.

    The suicide bomber went inside the Umm al-Qura mosque in western Baghdad and detonated himself on Sunday evening’s prayer, the source told Xinhua on condition of anonymity.

    Among the victims were children, the source said, adding that Iraqi security forces rushed to the scene and cordoned off nearby areas.

    No one has so far claimed responsibility and investigations are underway, said the police official.

    On the same day, a car bomb exploded in the Baya district in Baghdad’s southwestern part, killing one civilian and wounding eight others, the source added.

    Violence in Iraq has ebbed since its peak in 2006-2007 when sectarian clashes almost dragged the country into a civil war, but shootings and bombings still remain daily occurrences.

  24. BAGHDAD, Aug. 28 (Xinhua) — Seven people were killed and 14 others wounded in three bomb attacks in the Iraqi capital of Baghdad, an Interior Ministry source said on Sunday.

    Five policemen were killed and seven people were injured in twin roadside bomb explosions late on Saturday near a police patrol in Baghdad’s eastern neighborhood of Ghadeer, the source told Xinhua on condition of anonymity.

    Lieutenant Colonel Awad al-Fatlawi, chief of a police station, was among the killed and three policemen were among the wounded, the source said.

    In a separate incident, a sticky bomb attached to a civilian car detonated near a Sunni mosque in Tarmiyah area, some 40 km north of Baghdad, killing two people and wounding five others, the source added.

    The victims were all worshippers who just left the mosque after the night prayer of the Muslim holy month of Ramadan, he said.

    On Sunday morning, a sticky bomb attached to the civilian car detonated in Jadriyah neighborhood in southern Baghdad, wounding two people aboard, he added.

  25. “mumbo jumbo, big words, more mumbo jumbo”—–Strauss and Howe

    “saeculum, yadda, yadda, spirit of America, yadda, yadda, Golden Age,”—-Strauss and Howe

    “ekpyrosis, mumbo jumbo, apocalypse, yadda, yadda, more big words”—Strauss and Howe

    William Strauss to Neil Howe after the first draft:

    “Do you think we can find a publisher stupid enough to fall for this? ”

    Neil responds, “You aren’t serious about trying to get someone to actually believe this shit?”

    William fires back, “And why not? ”

    Neil counters, “Because it is shit, that’s why.”

    William stands firm, “That has nothing to do with it. You know it’s shit and I know it’s shit, but there are many editors that won’t know it’s shit and millions of potential readers are foolish enough to buy it if it’s published.”

    Neil finally caves, “Well, it never occurred to me to try to get something this utterly vapid published. We both know that we made the shit up as we went along. But, hey, if you think it will fly, if you think people are this gullible, then count me in.”

    “Earth to Neil. They published “Dow 36,000″ a few years ago and look how many fools bought it. And Speaker Pelosi’s seminal work on government. Trust me, we’ll both be up for Pulitzers by the time this thing runs it’s course.”

  26. New tag at the top of every future Smokey rant as he prays for the arrival of llpoh and SSS to try and extricate him from one of the worst thrashings ever on TBP.


  27. Re Electoral College map. Obama won North Carolina by a stinking 14,000 votes out of 4.3 million cast. It will go Republican in 2012, as will Virginia, where Obama won by 230,000 votes. Loudon and Prince William counties will swing back solidly into the Republican column, and so will the city of Virginia Beach. Virginia goes red.

    Aw, fuck it. No one takes me seriously anyway, so here.


  28. Stuck,

    If I ever decide to write a book for publication, it won’t be a fiction like the Fourth Turning novel.

    It would be something with significant intrinsic value, like “A Biography of Richard Cheney–An American Hero”.

  29. After the ass-kickings Admin has received the last couple of days, he decides to try more volume of posts in an attempt to drown distractors in static. Doesn’t look to be working.

    Good thing for him I have no interest in 4th turning. I side with Smokey re his mumbo jumbo perspective a little bit, but not enough to send the Admin scurrying to the nearest crack like a startled cockroach. The asswhupping I laid on yesterday must still be stinging him.

  30. I also think it more than even steven Obammy gets re-elected (excuse me while I puke). But it never pays to underestimate the stupidity of the American people in these matters.

  31. AWD:

    I couldn’t agree more— A Confederacy of Dunces is indeed the most outrageously funny book of all time. For those of you who haven’t read it yet, you are CHEATING yourself. If you have an IQ above room temp and appreciate high, artful humor, this book is it!

  32. SSS/Smokey – the way Admin is feeling his oats today, I suspect the slapping we gave to him the last we days caused one of his balls to finally drop. He needs to play with it awhile before he tries it out on the big dogs, as we might just tear it off.

  33. “Barrels of oil per day imported from Iraq in 2001 by the USA: 745,000 barrels per day ”

    “Barrels of oil per day imported from Iraq in 2010 by the USA: 405,000 barrels per day ”

    You curs claim that THE REASON the USA invaded Iraq was for the oil.

    You can’t have it both ways. You need to decide on your story and stick to it.

  34. SSS (left pic) / Smokey (center) / llpoh (right) = The Unholy Trinity

    Admin (center) / Stucky (behind Admin) / TeresaE (left), and the hoard of TBP Rigteousness

  35. LLPOH,

    I absolutely agree that Obama wins reelection. Look at any poll today. He is in a dead heat with any of the leading republicans. Despite his shitty record.

    When push comes to shove, the liberal media is ALWAYS going to back a liberal for office. ESPECIALLY a black one.

    Oh, the media will motherfuck him and harshly criticize him right up until it counts. But when it’s put up or shut up time, they will absolutely be unified behind him.

    Maybe a media whore two-faced cunt like Peggy Noonan will not continue to support him, now that she has made a fool of herself, but the traditional MSM media will pull out all the stops for him.

    Many people(not you) misunderstand the enormous influence the MSM has.

  36. Smokey – a major factor will indeed be the left-leaning MSM. Shitdicks that they are. Also, a major factor will be the black vote. Although they ALWAYS vote for whoever is delivering the free-shit (i.e. the Dems), they turn out in full tribal regalia for Obammy. I suspect that they turn out in at least double the normal rate – giving Tarbaby a good 3-5% head start. When you add in all of the FSA and left wing nutjobs, I think the odds are still in his favor. The oldies are historically Repubs, but a lot of them are going to be scared shitless that Perry/etc are going to screw them out of their god-given right to automatic indexation of their SS benefits, so some will turn to the Great Saviour Obammy. So I think he is still in the fucking driver’s seat. Damn it to hell.

  37. And all you fuckers that do not like that prediction can bite me. Wanting it to be different does not in fact make it different. The FSA and multicultural factions have grown so large and vote their pocketbooks to such an extent that the Dem nominee is ALWAYS in with a good chance. Always. And how do you think the people running out of unemployment are going to vote. Are they going to say “that motherfucker Obama screwed me and I lost my job”? Or are they going to say “I gotta vote for that motherfucker Obama as otherwise I won’t get any more unemployment?” Don’t kid yourself – they will vote short-term self-interest every time.

    We are in for the fucking of a lifetime.

  38. Tarbaby will win again because the Republicans cannot produce a decent candidate.

    Bob Dole
    John McCain
    Rick Perry
    Michelle Bachmann
    Sarah Palin
    Mitt Romney
    And all the rest….

    With the exception of McCain and Dole, they are all inexperienced fucksticks. You can’t tell me there isn’t anybody better than these kooks? Why are experienced Republicans afraid to run for President?

    You answer that question, and you’ll have Obama beat in a landslide.

  39. LLPOH makes his usual late arrival to the thread, adding nothing, and blustering as if his opinion matters.

    Administrator treats him with the disdain he deserves and swats him like a filthy house fly.


  40. Lipoh: A filthy sycophant house fly that follows Smokey around, licks his balls, posts after Smokey every single fucking time and then hides under Smokey’s skirt.

  41. Sycphant – I follow everyone around – and I will make a special point of following you, if you are brave enough to identify yourself – which I surely doubt. No bones about it – I enjoy Smokey’s posts to no end. He adds a lot of spice to the site. I also think the same of Stuck/SSS/AWD/Admin/ any of the ladies/Punk and Colma/KB/Thinker/Ragman/Cynical/Yojimbo/Matt/ and for fucking sure the Admin. Apologies to the rest – I follow you around too.

    I notice that none of those folks hide behind a new name when they have a go at me. Who is hiding? You must be one of the mental giants I regularly kick shit out of. I won’t even try to guess as the possibilities are numerous. Why don’t you go back to your gay porn and leave the flame fest for real men and women? Cowardly asswipe.

  42. AWD – I believe that was probably you. For your sake I hope not. A bit of anonymous or doppelganging prodding I will take – but that will well and truly piss me off.

  43. Lipoh:

    Fred keeps dropping by every day. He is a coward and changes his name when it suits him.

    DP has been dropping by.

    You’ve pissed off so many people it could be anybody. Why did you think it was me? I’m not afraid of you.

    If you look at the the little characters next to the names, that guy and you have the same character.

    Maybe you are doppelganging yourself.

  44. Smokey – It was almost 100% AWD. Fucking bad mistake. Don’t have the foggiest idea why he would do that. The shit is about to hit the fan now. I indeed poke a bit of fun at him, but never anonymously or as pointedly as that or with any mal-humor. If it was him I won’t be playing next time.

  45. AWD – I think it was possibly/probably you because of the use of “lipoh”. I have done a search and you are the only poster to have ever done that. that seems pretty suspicious. DP isn’t capable of proper use of apostrophes, etc. Too stupid for that.

    So are you saying it wasn’t you?

  46. DP thinks Smokey and Admin are one and the same. Doubtful he would mention Smokey as an individual. Fred seems to me to enjoy posting under his own name. Colma has the same avatar when not logged in, but it doesn’t seem to be his style. He, I hope, knows I like him. Same goes for Punk.

    Show yourself, coward. There needs to be some integrity, even in the realm of anonymous internet posting.

  47. It was me.

    Just calm the fuck down for a minute and let me explain myself.

    I post a lot of shit on this site. A write a lot of shit for this site. I get no fucking respect, and none of the big dogs even bother to comment “it sucks.” Well, when you posted that picture of that pathetic chihuahua with a fucking wheel-cart, a straw broke in my brain.

    So I piss up your leg. The worst attack is the one your not expecting.

    I hadn’t tried the dopplegang technique yet. I was just trying it out, so relax before you blow a gasket.

    And I have this weird loyalty to admin, I don’t know why, and you bad men have been attacking him relentlessly for two weeks solid now, and you’ve been heading the assault. So, in the name of all that is good and holy, a sprung a sneak attack.

    I spent a whole afternoon attacking “Rommel” one day only to find out it was Crazy Ivan. It was like kissing my sister. So, you’ve been doppleganged, or whatever you call it.

    You can chalk it up to a learning experience, at your expense, or you can hold a grudge and rip we a new asshole. It wasn’t personal. I don’t think I’ll be doing it again, ever, being a chickenshit is not in my nature.

    So, do what you will. I do admire your powers of research.

  48. Admin – A good doppelganging is admired. This was not that. This was a coward hiding behind a false name in order to motherfuck me anonymously. Fuck that. You would be turning over every rock to try to find the motherfucker.

  49. AWD – thanks for owning up. I will consider it. It was probably ill-considered. I wouldn’t have been offended if you had posted it under Smokey’s name and said the same sort of thing. But it seemed to me to be a total motherfucking.

    You might note that you were included in the ones I follow on this site. It was you I followed when I posted the two legged dog. That was respect whether you know it or not. You have been a valuable addition.

    I post a lot of stuff, too. I catch a lot of shit for certain positions, and a lot less when I post one of my Short Stories, which come from my area of expertise, which people, in general seem to respect, and it is usually a neutral ground without too much flaming.

    You are a relative newbie, a probie, as it were. You have been doing well, and have placed yourself in the top echelon of posters. There is flame throwing and then there is motherfucking. You crossed the line, in my opinion. It doesn’t seem to have been your intent so I will calm my shit down.

    Accolades for pissing me off tho. I wouldn’t make it a habit.

  50. llpoh,

    So AWD comes clean. Your instincts were right on.

    While the confession was admirable, I do believe some punitive action is required. For anyone to side against us, MUCH LESS on the side of the Administrator, is a dastardly and despicable action of the vilest kind.

    Forgiveness is out of the question, IMO.

  51. My brother was a Scout (army not boy). Their motto was “sneak, peek, and retreat”.

    Personally, I favor heavy artillery against sneeky little bastards:


  52. Smokey
    That’s a significant drop in imports. Is it going somewhere else or not being produced? Internal use? How much is being used for the global war on terror? Does oil used by the Military in Iraq count as being imported?

    A single fact can spun any number of ways, it does little to change my mind on its own. We are still importing SOME oil from these people that hate us, after all. Why? because they love our constantly devalued currency blowing the world’s food markets all to hell?


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