POLICE STATE

The NYC police mace peaceful protestors. Imagine what they will do when the protests are no longer peaceful. The anger and rage is building.  

Sunday, September 25, 2011

Welcome to the Police State: NYC Cops Mace Peaceful Protestors Against Wall Street

I’m beginning to wonder whether the right to assemble is effectively dead in the US. No one who is a wage slave (which is the overwhelming majority of the population) can afford to have an arrest record, even a misdemeanor, in this age of short job tenures and rising use of background checks.

Now at least in New York (and I hope readers in other cities will chime in) the right to assemble seems to be pretty much a dead letter. I was in Sydney during the global protests against the Iraq War, and I was told that the New York demonstrations (which were already hindered by typically lousy winter weather) were pretty much blocked by the police. Protestors were tying to gather at the UN, and the cops put up a cordon at Second Avenue. The result was the turnout was far lower than the number who tried to show their opposition and were stopped.

The latest New York City protest is OccupyWallStreet. Even though its turnout last week fell well short of hopes (the estimates from the group were that 2000 participated; the New York Times suggests numbers more like “hundreds” but the photos from the 17th make figures larger figures seem plausible), making it a nuisance level demonstration rather than a major statement, the powers that be seem to be trying a bit too hard to prevent it from getting traction.

The organizers were using Twitter to promote participation and visibility. And so Twitter intervened. From AmpedStatus:

On at least two occasions, Saturday September 17th and again on Thursday night, Twitter blocked #OccupyWallStreet from being featured as a top trending topic on their homepage. On both occasions, #OccupyWallStreet tweets were coming in more frequently than other top trending topics that they were featuring on their homepage.

This is blatant political censorship on the part of a company that has recently received a $400 million investment from JP Morgan Chase.

The protestors were relegated to Zucotti Park, west of Liberty. If you know Lower Manhattan that is technically near Wall Street but well away from any offices buildings. It is on the periphery. The New York Times depicts the demonstrators as naive and ineffective, i.e, harmless:

Occupy Wall Street, a diffuse and leaderless convocation of activists against greed, corporate influence, gross social inequality and other nasty byproducts of wayward capitalism not easily extinguishable by street theater, had hoped to see many thousands join its protest and encampment, which began Sept. 17….

By Wednesday morning, 100 or so stalwarts were making the daily, peaceful trek through the financial district, where their movements were circumscribed by barricades and a heavy police presence. (Various arrests for disorderly conduct were made.) By Thursday, the number still sleeping in Zuccotti Park, the central base of operations, appeared to be dwindling further.

Members retained hope for an infusion of energy over the weekend, but as it approached, the issue was not that the Bastille hadn’t been stormed, but that its facade had suffered hardly a chip.

So the protest is only in the low hundreds. In a separate story, the Times reports that the police arrested 80 as they moved to Union Square (notice how high a percentage that is) and even the anodyne Times makes the policing sound heavy-handed:

The police made scores of arrests on Saturday as hundreds of people, many of whom had been encamped in the financial district as part of a lengthy protest, marched north to Union Square….

Protest organizers estimated that about 85 people were arrested and that about five were struck with pepper spray. Among those was Chelsea Elliott, 25, who said that she was sprayed after shouting “Why are you doing that?” as an officer arrested a protester at East 12th Street….

Nearby, two other protesters standing handcuffed on Fifth Avenue told a reporter that they had both been arrested on sidewalks and were not aware of having broken any law.

“They put up orange nets and tried to kettle us and we started running and they started tackling random people and handcuffing them,” said Kelly Brannon, 27, of Ridgewood, Queens. “They were herding us like cattle.”

Next to her, David Smith, from Maine, said that he had been chanting “Let them go” as people were handcuffed, and was then arrested by a senior officer who told him that he was being charged with obstructing governmental administration.

The article included this tweet:

@DustinSlaughter there’s 50+ of us arrested in a caravan, netted & maced by police after standing on sidewalk where they told us to

This video show police macing women who were already corralled and who made no aggressive or threatening moves

The authorities apparently felt that the response was so low that they could get rough with the protestors, meaning that their perception was that even unflattering coverage would not incite much bigger turnout. Sadly, they may have judged this correctly.

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newsjunkie
newsjunkie
September 25, 2011 11:00 am

Peaceful protest is dead in the US and has been my entire life. I will never take part in a protest. It is futile. There are other ways to express one’s discontent.

I remember Kent State very well.

TeresaE
TeresaE
September 25, 2011 11:22 am

“…This is blatant political censorship on the part of a company that has recently received a $400 million investment from JP Morgan Chase….”

There is the rub. The reason Glenn Beck’s protests in Washington drew thousands yet were not reported, but when ten guys march for gay rights, it is a “massive” demonstration.

These few freaks are controlling EVERYTHING.

Guess the First Amendment is yet another casualty in our War on Terror, next up, the Second so that we can usher in “world peace.”

Reeling, my head reels from the constant, unbelievable crap that has descended upon us.

Nonanonymous
Nonanonymous
September 25, 2011 11:24 am

Sure, the NYC Riot Squads can handle a few braless females. They couldn’t handle London or Greece style riots.

Once the Feds get involved, all bets are off. It could go to martial law in a matter of hours. They’re better manned, trained, equipped and can out last any opposing force. Sure, they’re willing to let you burn down your own neighborhood, but try it in DC or Wall Street, you see the result.

As global commodity prices rise, last years Arab spring will spread. Commodity prices fell last week. with a recession being priced in. Since the response will be QE to infinity, commodities should start to rise again in short order. The US is better equipped to ride out a global recession, but this doesn’t change the fact we need reform tax laws, pro jobs policies, and cut federal spending, in that order, to address the economy and debt.

Without reform, the riots in Greece and London are coming to a city near you, and DHS will be powerless to stop it.

Stucky
Stucky
September 25, 2011 11:44 am

“I remember Kent State very well.” — newsjunkie

“Sure, the NYC Riot Squads can handle a few braless females. They couldn’t handle London or Greece style riots.” —– Nonanonymous

Amen. And, Amen.

I remember the Newark riots very well. I lived just a few blocks from Springfield Avenue, the scene of all the action.

Cops are good at shutting down little kids lemonade stands. Or, picking fights with “braless females”. Good one!! They are not so good at patrolling the inner cities, like Camden. Or, London England where police absolutely refuse to go into muslim neighborhhods. Cops don’t like areas where people who shoot back.

It reminds me of a Bruce Lee movie (I forget which one, though). Anyway, the bad guy breaks a couple boards with his head. Impressive!! Then Bruce simpy says, “Boards don’t hit back.”. I thought that was one of the best movie lines ever.

And the people today have a lot more guns than they did back in 1967.

Connovar
Connovar
September 25, 2011 11:57 am

Enter The Dragon

Stucky
Stucky
September 25, 2011 12:19 pm

Ahhhhh. Yup!! Thanks!

Correction: the guy breaks the board with his hand. Here is the scene from the movie. (Skip to the 40 sec mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP-Iq-eZusg

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matt
matt
September 25, 2011 12:32 pm

NA,
I totally agree, I remember the L.A. riots after the Rodney King trial. The Police and Natl.Gaurd set up a perimeter to keep the mob contained and didn’t even try to stop them. Of course that won’t happen in parts of NYC or DC, but I am sure there won’t be alot of struggle for the streets of Cleveland or Detroit. Remember the Super Dome in New Orleans? I know there was some horrible things that happened in there and it seemed like they just shut off the lights and said “have at it”. My advice, stay the hell out of the way.

Clownbucks
Clownbucks
September 25, 2011 12:47 pm

“The organizers were using Twitter to promote participation and visibility. And so Twitter intervened.”

I guess an old fashioned telephone tree won’t work? Slow but effective.

newsjunkie
newsjunkie
September 25, 2011 1:02 pm

I have watched this once wonderful country turn into what I call a Totalitarian Corporatocracy. Our best way to protest is through the power of the purse.

Boycott.

Pick the worst and easiest to fell offender and BOYCOTT.

platoplubius
platoplubius
September 25, 2011 1:40 pm

Check out Roseanne Barr at “Occupy Wall St.”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_0riq6C8Kc

Before you check that out you should really watch this short 4 minute rant by her to get an idea of what she is really about! Not what the corporate media has shown you about her!

http://www.youtube.com/user/platoplubius?feature=mhee#p/f/50/RN0NxxWdPUo

Kick ASS!

ragman
ragman
September 25, 2011 1:54 pm

Nothin’ new here. Popos have a field day with these type of “protests”. Get a hundred thousand Patriots wif they “sporting equipment” and there will be an entirely different story. It’s coming, sports fans and it ain’t gonna be pretty.

flash
flash
September 25, 2011 2:46 pm

Nonanonymous says: Sure, the NYC Riot Squads can handle a few braless females.

I know what ‘zactly what ya’ mean. In my time, I’ve taken on my share of bra-less females as well and even though they may have been more than a handful, I don’t think it the least boastful to unequivocally declare that I always came out on top.

Axel
Axel
September 25, 2011 2:48 pm

“I have watched this once wonderful country turn into what I call a Totalitarian Corporatocracy. Our best way to protest is through the power of the purse.”

Axel
Axel
September 25, 2011 2:50 pm

I mean t to say, that despite the above comment, that would be true except when the money is forcefully removed from you in the form of taxes and given to the corps in the forms of bailouts directly, and inflation, indirectly.

Stucky
Stucky
September 25, 2011 2:52 pm

I want to agree with newsjunkie and Axel. I really do. Hell, you all know I boycott all kinds of companies already; Walmart, Chinese shit, BOA, chain stores, etc.

But, I wonder what good it does (other than make ME feel good). Have boycotts ever achieved their intended result here in America in the past decade or so?

newsjunkie
newsjunkie
September 25, 2011 3:45 pm

Stucky,

I think people have forgotten it as a tool for change.

Muck About
Muck About
September 25, 2011 4:11 pm

Boycotts never work when more than one person is involved.

This shit of herding people into “free speech zones” has got to be stomped on by someone. Pretty soon they’ll allow protest in your home (as an extension of the Castle Doctrine) but no where else.

Why hasn’t some one (plus, say the ACLU) sued some ass over this practice?

MA

Punk in Drublic
Punk in Drublic
September 25, 2011 4:17 pm

Damn Strait, newsjunkie. In today’s world, it might be more effective than standing on a corner or in a park holding signs. Money is the only thing these thieving bastards understand, and publicity, which is really money.

It would enact change on whatever entity was targeted but only if the majority of people give a shit about fixing any goddamn thing. It’s easier to be mad and keep doing the same stupid shit.

Muck About
Muck About
September 25, 2011 5:09 pm

Just think what the powers that be could do to us old fogey types who remember what it’s like to protest en mass as it were.

Now they will not only throw our old bods in jail, they’ll take away out SS and Medicare if we don’t behave and be good little boys and girls…

MA

newsjunkie
newsjunkie
September 25, 2011 5:58 pm

In honor of Jim’s diabetes I invite all of you to join the Coke boycott –

http://killercoke.org/campus_activism.php

I just found this myself after searching for successful boycotts, but I’m ready to start.

thc0655
thc0655
September 25, 2011 6:09 pm

The occupation of Wall St by kids and anarchists is NOT the civil unrest we’ve been expecting, though when the real civil unrest starts someone will write that OccupyWallSt was the beginning. When adults start planning and participating then we’ll be on to something.

Furthermore, has no one read about Ghandi and MLK? Is urban camping the best they can do? There would be so many strategies and tactics which are completely non-violent that would be very effective in disrupting TPTB and drawing the mainstream’s attention and support. And why provoke the Police, unless you make that part of your plan for a very good reason? But if you’re going to purposely provoke use of force by the Police then by all means don’t scream like little girls when you get a little pepper spray in your eyes. “Take it like a man.” The adults have to get involved so we get something more than the equivalent of temper tantrums. We need non-violent direct action wisely targeted at the parts and personalities of The System that have created and maintain the macro problems we’re suffering from. You don’t attack an M1A1 Abrams tank from the front with small arms fire. You sneak up behind and attack the engine compartment. (The police aren’t the problem. You all know that, right? You know who and what got us here, right? Clue: it wasn’t the Police.) But I think you all know deep down inside that the reason why real change is not bursting up from the people to the halls of power is that the people aren’t paying much attention, and when they do pay attention it’s only for 2.5 minutes, and when they take action they usually go off half-cocked in a way that is totally ineffective in changing anything significant. “We have seen the enemy, and he is us.” If we can’t get more people educated and involved, then we’ll just have to quit whining that somebody should do something.

AWD
AWD
September 25, 2011 7:16 pm

The leftist, police state view of things….

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Opinionated Bloviator
Opinionated Bloviator
September 25, 2011 8:54 pm

“The beatings will continue until the Wall Street Bonuses are paid”

Terry
Terry
September 25, 2011 11:13 pm

Speaking of POLICE STATE (the title JQ has given this post) – The Federal Reserve now wants to get to know us a mite better:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/66281284/Frbny-Social-Media-Rfp

I would imagine TBP is right up there near the top; certainly not on page 2….

A few excerpts (in no particular order – just a smattering):

“Social media platforms are changing the way organizations are communicating to the public Conversations arehappening all the time and everywhere.There is need for the Communications Group to be timely and proactively aware of the reactions and opinionsexpressed by the general public as it relates to the Federal Reserve and its actions on a variety of subjects.

II. Social Listening Platforms
Social media listening platforms are solutions that gather data from various social media outlets and news sources.They monitor billions of conversations and generate text analytics based on predefined criteria. They can alsodetermine the sentiment of a speaker or writer with respect to some topic or document.The information gathered can guide the organizations public relations group in assessing the effectiveness of communication strategies.Here are some of the services it can offer:
Track reach and spread of your messages and press releases
Handle crisis situations
Continuously monitor conversations
Identify and reach out to key bloggers and influencers
Spot emerging trends, discussions themes and topics

From which of the following social media outlets has the Proposed Solution sucessfully collected content? Check all that apply.
Facebook
Twitter
Blogs
Youtube
Forums
Associated Press Content
Google News Aggregated content
Subscription based news sources
Other News sources (CNN, WSJ).

Can the Proposed Solution establish influencers versus followers and account for noise factor, including ‘weighting’(which refers to the weighting of various social media sources such as Twitter, Facebook, YouTube, blogs and other sites based on their online impact, and must not be based purely on online traffic such sources generate)? Noise factor refers to unwanted information such as, spam, duplication etc”

These random tidbits are just to whet your appetites. There’s much more.

Novista
Novista
September 26, 2011 12:00 am

newsjunkie

I’ve been boycotting Coke for years. Just knowing their crony sugar rationing waiver in WW2 is enough to put you off. Hmmm, great idea for a youtube …

AKAnon
AKAnon
September 26, 2011 1:00 am

Terry says one service it can provide is “Identify and reach out to key bloggers and influencers”. That “reaching out” wouldn’t be like Stucky’s encounter, would it?

Terry
Terry
September 26, 2011 1:05 am

Suddenly there’s quite a bit on the Internet regarding the Federal Reserve’s “Social Media” foray. Any competent Google search will find it. Of course, you will be logged by Google for doing so, and reported…

eugend66
eugend66
September 26, 2011 8:03 am

Teresa and newsjunkie, cheer up, for every problem there is a solution:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU , I hope all TBP ladies will enjoy the clip.

newsjunkie
newsjunkie
September 26, 2011 8:35 am

eugend66,

Thank you! That was hilarious.

eugend66
eugend66
September 26, 2011 8:47 am

Hehehe … .

TeresaE
TeresaE
September 26, 2011 10:25 am

Eugened, thank you for the Rainy Monday Morning laughs!

Reminded me of when I was in college (way back in the dark ages of the late 80s) and one of my study buddies (I was tutoring him in Accounting & Statistics) and I were having a discussion about my switching to a pre-law major (suggested by a couple of my professors).

“Only ball-busting dykes become lawyers, you are too cute to be successful.”

Though I didn’t knock his ass to the ground, I did decide to quit putting so much effort into helping with his education.

From that day on I tried to avoid the sexist asshole, except when I was mocking him by talking about hot co-eds and how a “dyke lawyer” would get in their pants before an Art major douchebag.

eugend66
eugend66
September 26, 2011 10:30 am

Teresa, you`re a fine lady and if someone denies it, send him to me !
1hug+1digital kiss.

TeresaE
TeresaE
September 26, 2011 10:32 am

Terry, so if I were to say something like,

“The Federal Reserve are currently running the largest Ponzi scheme in world history and Ben Bernake will lead us right off the edge of the cliff as long as his banking brothers can continue to make multi-million dollar bonuses and skirt campaign finance laws to put those that they have bought into public office.”

Then I might end up on a list? Say it ain’t so.

I get the distinct feeling, I’ve been on that list for around six years. Fuck ’em if they can’t take a joke…

…or the truth.

Thinker
Thinker
September 26, 2011 2:38 pm

Gallup: 49% of Americans believe the federal government has become so large and powerful that it poses an immediate threat to the rights and freedoms of ordinary citizens. In 2003, less than a third (30%) believed this.

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TG
TG
September 26, 2011 2:40 pm

“The NYC police mace peaceful protestors. Imagine what they will do when the protests are no longer peaceful.”

They can/will do as they please thanks to Mayor Bloomy’s Loonie Toonie nanny state anti gun laws.

Fire at will, fuckers.

Terry
Terry
September 26, 2011 2:42 pm

@TeresaE

There’s no shame in being on certain lists. Not that it can’t harm you, because it can. I have experienced certain forms of official “harassment” over the years that I felt was uncalled for – and certainly perplexing. In the late 1970’s I “gained the ability” to “see my past,” so to speak (I can say no more that that). Surprisingly, I found that information was being maintained “on my behalf.” This information collection apparently began in the late 1960’s and even includes photos. No doubt, I am a charter member of DCSNet – but by now most of us here probably are (although some certainly are NOT – Hi, guys!).

It does bring a certain freedom, with the risk of some day causing a large blood stain in front of a wall somewhere …or perhaps simply starving to death. I don’t enough martyr in me to go down like Bill Cooper.

Thinker
Thinker
September 26, 2011 2:50 pm

Agree, Jim. You’re making a great start, getting the word out about the police state and how government is ruining people’s lives — Tom Ball, Sunny Sheu and others. And now you’re drawing the connection with pre-Nazi Germany. Hopefully more people will begin to realize history is repeating, even if it’s unthinkable or supposedly “impossible.”

The more people who start asking why the MSM isn’t covering this, the better. In the meantime, the Internet allows us to get the word out just like the pamphleteers did in pre-Revolutionary America.

Thinker
Thinker
September 26, 2011 3:53 pm

I’ll do that.

Guest
Guest
September 26, 2011 7:22 pm

JP Morgan Chase recently donated $4.6 Million to the NYPD, coincidence? http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/Home/article/ny-13.htm?TB_iframe=true&height=580&width=850