So not only can Obama now imprison us with no charges, he can spy on us and if need be fire a missile at us from one of the predator drones that will now be roaming the skies above America. Why the fuck would predator drones be needed in America? The weight of evidence grows by the day. Our government is preparing for an epic collapse and will do everything in their power to retain control over the ignorant masses. Will the ignorant masses ever wake up?

Chances of Central New York drone flights improve as new law allows six national test sites

Published: Thursday, January 05, 2012, 2:00 AM

Washington — The Air National Guard’s 174th Fighter Wing is a step closer to gaining federal permission to fly unmanned Reaper drones out of its base at Hancock Field, according to U.S. Sen. Charles Schumer.

The National Defense Authorization Act signed into law last week by President Barack Obama allows for the establishment of six national test sites where drones could fly through civil air space.

Schumer, D-N.Y., said Tuesday he pushed for the establishment of six spots, instead of the planned four, to improve the chances that Hancock Field would be included. The 174th Fighter Wing has been trying for almost five years to convince the Federal Aviation Administration to allow flights of the MQ-9 Reaper drones out of Hancock Field.

The FAA bans such unmanned flights because of concerns about the remotely piloted drones flying through civil airspace used by commercial aircraft at Syracuse’s Hancock International Airport.

Schumer said he sent a letter Tuesday to FAA Acting Commissioner Michael Huerta, asking for Hancock to be one of the national test sites.

Hancock Field, which will eventually host a full squadron of Reaper drones, has the largest potential training space in the Northeast. Most of the drones assigned to the 174th Fighter Wing are now remotely operated in Afghanistan and Iraq by pilots at the Mattydale base.

Schumer said Hancock already meets FAA requirements for unmanned aerial vehicles because about 7,000 square miles surrounding the airport is designated as “special use” airspace.

He said that “making Hancock a test site for this technology would be a boon for Central New York, creating jobs and bringing new investments to our defense contractors that provide thousands of good paying jobs.”

The senator noted that two Central New York companies, SRC and Saab Sensis Corp., are working on technology to help integrate drones into the national airspace with “sense and avoid” ground-based radars. In addition, the Mattydale base employs more than 1,200 people.

In his letter to Huerta, Schumer said Hancock Field’s assets make it an ideal location, including the large open spaces of Lake Ontario and the Adirondack Park.

“Hancock Field is ideally positioned to be a test site because of its attractive air space, and because the region has two restricted areas, four seasons, a varied terrain, an over water range, air to ground gunnery capability and large airspace volume – all essential to ensuring that our drones and their pilots are able to complete their missions abroad,” Schumer wrote.

FAA officials had no immediate comment.

Col. Kevin Bradley, commander of the 174th Fighter Wing, has said that any Reaper drones that eventually fly out of Hancock would not be equipped with missiles or bombs. No training would take place within civilian air space, Bradley said.

The drones would be armed with live ordnance only when used at firing ranges at Fort Drum near Watertown. Central New York peace activists have protested the Air National Guard’s decision to base the drones at Hancock Field.


  1. This also allows legal “no fly” zones of significant size to be put into place. The “commercial flights” bullshit you may ignore. It is private aviation that will eat it as more and more airspace is placed “off limits” to fly.

    I agree with the pre-conclusion. The Feddies are planning something — 7 “training bases” my ass. They need only one that takes up space out in the desert where only spiders and snakes go. But oh no, we get SEVEN. That’s a lot more “training” than we need and has an alternate use in the plans.

    Fucked again.. And don’t even know why..


  2. We’re going to end up dead by missiles; to private property, commercial airlines, homes of blogsters, and anyone else deemed “dangerous” to the Fed.gov.gestapo in the name of “good paying jobs”. Schumer and politicians are criminals, shitting on the constitution and bill of rights.

    When are people going to wake up indeed. Getting your bags searched at Wal Mart by TSA agents is only the start. The NDAA is a Federal bureaucrat’s dream; unlimited power. Our only hope is the government goes bankrupt soon. Anyone protesting against NDAA is a terrorist by definition, the deal is sealed and done. We’re finished, now we just have to wait for the bankruptcy of the government as our only hope.

  3. DHS Officers Armed With Semiautomatics Set Up Unannounced ID Checkpoint

    Staff of Florida Social Security office not informed of drill, Homeland Security officials refused to talk to media

    Paul Joseph Watson – Infowars.com – Thursday, January 5, 2012

    Residents of Leesburg, Florida were shocked to see their local Social Security office turned into a random Homeland Security checkpoint Tuesday morning, as DHS officers armed with semiautomatic rifles and accompanied by sniffer dogs checked identifications of locals.

    “With their blue and white SUVs circled around the Main Street office, at least one official was posted on the door with a semiautomatic rifle, randomly checking identifications. And other officers, some with K-9s, sifted through the building,” reports the Daily Commercial.

    The activity was part of Operation Shield, an unannounced drill conducted by the DHS’ Federal Protective Service centered around “detecting the presence of unauthorized persons and potentially disruptive or dangerous activities.”

    Thomas Milligan, district manager for the Social Security Administration office, said staff were not informed their offices were about to be stormed by armed FPS officers. DHS officials refused to answer questions asked by local media and left with no explanation at noon.

    “Part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, FPS is the federal law enforcement agency that provides integrated security and law enforcement services to over 9,000 federally-owned and leased buildings, facilities, properties and other assets,” states the report.

    Indeed, the FPS is used for a variety of roles, not just limited to setting up unannounced ID checkpoints.

    As part of the reinvention of the Department of Homeland Security to serve as a tool of political repression, the Federal Protective Service is used by the DHS to track the political activities of peaceful advocacy groups. The FPS was seen arresting photographers in Portland last November during an OWS rally.

    In 2004, the FPS arrested a veteran for the crime of complaining to his local VA office in Des Moines.

    A separate component of Homeland Security, VIPR (Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response), recently received an expansion in funding from Congress that will see 2011′s figure of around 9,300 checkpoints increased with the addition of 12 new VIPR teams, who will be used to carry out security checks at bus depots, train stations, ferry ports and highways.

    The extra money is being demanded despite the fact that there is “no proof that the roving viper teams have foiled any terrorist plots or thwarted any major threat to public safety,” according to an L.A. Times report.


    Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.

  4. “In 2004, the FPS arrested a veteran for the crime of complaining to his local VA office in Des Moines.”

    Thanks for that. More checkpoints and searches are coming. If they can do it here at Wal Mart, they can do anything. If this veteran had complained today, he’d be sent away via NDAA forever.

    Hey, maybe when Welfare/SS/disability and all the other entitlements collapse, the FSA will complain to the Feds instead of zombie riots, looting and killing, and will be sent to FEMA camps, where they can continue to get free everything.

  5. @Normal Guy: I live down the road 17 miles from Leesburg and it happened just as described. They made an abortive attempt to stop reporting on it but our pissant local rag had the balls to tell them to screw off and –without a single picture — reported the incident as covered above.

    Do not expect normal news on TBP, by the way. It is one of the Alt-Websites where news comes when it’s not printed in the MSM.. Expect the unexpected here.


  6. [email protected] says:

    Inmates lining up to hear a speech by Our Dear Leader Obama:


    (Ten points if anybody knows where this originally came from.)

  7. I’ve been BUTCHERING spelling lately but, in this case, at the very least, I can declare that I don’t speak that language…

    No less, gesundheit, Thinker!

  8. [email protected] says:


    We have a winner, Thinker, you are correct.

    I want Admin to note how well lined up the prisoners are, heh.

    Remember Comrades – Arbeit Macht Frei!!!!


  9. The jig is up for moi.

    Just learned the Secret Service approached retired special ops vet and asked him to infiltrate our little Tea Party group.

    Should be spending valuable time investigating Corzine and the $1.2 Billion he swiped from customers. But the Feds have everyday Americans in their cross hairs instead.

    Made the decision, I’m going down swinging…

    1. Mary Malone

      How do we publicize this act of government overreach? WTF???

      Isn’t the Secret Service supposed to handle protecting the President and forgery shit?

      We are so fucked.

  10. Dunno, Newsjunkie.

    We aren’t advocates of alternative currency or making any threats to The One. In fact, just for the record, we don’t want to see one hair on any progressives chinny chin chin harmed. Not one.

    Our members are retired cops, FBI, carpenters, grannies, college kids, teachers, wall street guys. Really normal people. Or as normal as you can be in NJ.

    Very strange – but we live in strange times, don’t we?

  11. I wonder if there would be a niche in the arms industry for portable backpack anti drone rockets or anti drone drones. We can call them PADR’s and ADD’s. If they can send them up we should be able to devise a means to bring them down.

  12. Admin — you have bought the cookie now! You’ve given Anon an idea (assuming any of them can read English) that they will have to try out!

    By the way, zerohedge was bombed yesterday and unavailable until in the wee hours of this morning. Someone took a swing at them..


  13. Admin, our website and emails have been monitored by FBI for last two years. Someone in law enforcement told us that if we picked up their surveillance, it was because they wanted us to.

    And we’ve had people pop in from time to time who try to get us to turn on one another, we think they were net in by the Feds too.

    None of it has worked because we are who we are – law abiding citizens who are doing everything within the spirit and letter of the law to restore our beloved country’s liberty.

    So, SS is kinda late to the party….

  14. Hope

    Here’s what Thinker did to win your contest. Cursor on photo, right click, click on properties, and bingo!! The word “Dachau” shows up in the properties thread. He cheated.


    As you already know, if the Secret Service is interested in your Tea Party group, it’s likely that they received some sort of information connecting your group to a threat to the president or vice-president or perhaps counterfeiting U.S. currency (to my knowledge, “advocating” an alternative currency is not a crime, at least not yet).

    If, and this is a big IF, your information is accurate about an attempt to infiltrate your group is being made, then this is probably much more than a “preliminary investigation.” Ask your FBI member. He/she will explain the difference between a preliminary investigation and a full-field investigation.

    1. Mary

      Listen to SSS. He has been conducting a full-field investigation of TBP for the last three years. He’s lulled us into thinking he’s just the wise old man of TBP, a lousy golfer taking vacations from his extended vacation, and falls asleep at 7:30 every night while watching reruns of Lawrence Welk. In reality, he’s infiltrated our domestic terrorist organization and will direct his bretheran at Langley to swoop down upon us when the time is right.

  15. Thanks, SSS. I’ll follow-up on your advice.

    But somehow I don’t think they’re operating under the old rules.

    So who knows if they even need a valid excuse or tip to investigate us?

  16. Mary

    If the Secret Service is monitoring personal emails, they need a warrant to do that. If it’s comments on your website, then they don’t.


    I sent your podcast with the Turd Man to the appropriate authorities. Don’t make any plans for the rest of the weekend.

    1. SSS

      Just sitting here finishing another anarchist anti-government, anti-Wall Street article about how wonderful 2012 will be for America. I expect the site to mysteriously go down after I post it tomorrow.

  17. “With a reported one third of the currency in circulation being counterfeit at the time, the Secret Service was created by President Abraham Lincoln on April 14, 1865 (five days after Lee’s surrender at Appomattox), and commissioned on July 5, 1865, in Washington, D.C. as the “Secret Service Division” of the Department of the Treasury with the mission of suppressing counterfeiting.”

    Warrants? “We dun need no steenkin’ warrants!”

  18. And here’s another bill to think about…The Enemy Expatriation Act. Here’s a link from Daily Paul.

    H.R. 3166 Enemy Expatriation Act
    Submitted by MJones on Mon, 01/02/2012 – 19:51
    in Daily Paul Liberty Forum

    Now Congress is trying to pass legislation to take away your U.S. citizenship if you are “engaging in or supporting hostilities against the United States”. In other words, if you attempt to fight government tyranny, they will strip you of your citizenship and you will have no constitutional rights. This is the next step towards government tyranny after Obama just signed the NDAA. Email your Representatives.


  19. The MAJORITY of Americans APPROVE of Drone usuage. And if you are worried about drones over your house, keep your nose cleaned, and you will not have to worry.

  20. Fuck you PBerg. The majority of Germans also supported Hitler. I hope you are standing in the hellfire missile blast radius of someone with a dirty nose you sheepish bitch.

  21. “Now Congress is trying to pass legislation to take away your U.S. citizenship …” — newsjunkie

    HOW DO I SIGN UP FOR THAT ?????????

  22. “And if you are worried about drones over your house, keep your nose cleaned, and you will not have to worry.”

    Its going to be real funny when hackers start crashing those things into random fields.

  23. “The majority of Germans also supported Hitler.”

    No, they didn’t. Read up on it, he actually had less than 1/3 approval. People just didn’t believe it was possible for one person to take over their entire government.

    Burnings, abductions, murders and brute force are how Hitler took power.


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