HOW DID THESE IDIOTS SHOOT NINE INNOCENT BYSTANDERS?

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Posted on 25th August 2012 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

These two officers are five feet from this dude and manage to shoot nine other people. Christ Almighty the NYPD is a fucking disgrace.

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  1. Administrator says:

    The NYPD is much better at kicking the shit out of peaceful protestors. They should stick to their specialty.

    I love watching those Nazis – Bloomberg and Kelly – trying to make it sound like their keystone cops aren’t total fuckups.

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    25th August 2012 at 6:31 pm

  2. Administrator says:

    He’s so proud. I’m surprised the NYPD didn’t piss on the bodies of the victims like good troops.

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    25th August 2012 at 6:39 pm

  3. Administrator says:

    The NYPD does a much better job against people who are unarmed.

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    25th August 2012 at 6:41 pm

  4. Administrator says:

    Trust the NYPD to keep you safe from peaceful protestors. People with guns – not so much.

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    25th August 2012 at 6:45 pm

  5. Zarathustra says:

    Kind of hard to tell but it appears that the guy turned his gun on himself while the cops were all shooting at bystanders. It would be funny if it weren’t so tragic.

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    25th August 2012 at 6:48 pm

  6. Maddie's Mom says:

    Sounds like something I might do. :-P

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    25th August 2012 at 7:01 pm

  7. No Field Five says:

    @Admin – “The NYPD does a much better job against people who are unarmed.”

    I guess it depends upon who you think they were aiming at. The bystanders were all unarmed as well. The guy who falls in the last frames – if he was the shooter, why were the cops all aiming away from him? If he wasn’t the shooter, how the hell did he get hit? Ricochet, perhaps?

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    25th August 2012 at 7:10 pm

  8. Administrator says:

    Maybe Bloomberg and the NYPD should stick to enforcing the Big Gulp ban.

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    25th August 2012 at 7:23 pm

  9. Llpoh says:

    It is very hard to hit a moving, armed target with a pistol, even from a few feet. Doesn’t surprise me they filled the air with lead in a crowded area trying to bring him down. I guess they should have just let him go.

    Seriously, doesn’t anyone but me know anything about shooting handguns? No matter how good a shot you are it is very difficult to hit a moving target with a handgun. The barrel swing is just too difficult to control – fine motor skills are involved. Shoulda used shotguns – one shot and down for the count. If they miss with that, the can just blot up the bystanders, though.

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    25th August 2012 at 8:05 pm

  10. Administrator says:

    llpoh

    He was standing still. The NYPD are a bunch of fuckups who specialize in kicking the shit out of unarmed kids protesting. The two idiots who couldn’t shoot straight were fat ass union douchebags who had never fired their guns in their entire useless careers.

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    25th August 2012 at 8:14 pm

  11. sensetti says:

    Here’s the answer to the question.

    A US man has been rejected in his bid to become a police officer for scoring too high on an intelligence test.

    This story says that the average I.Q. for a cop is 104, if that is accurate it means there are thousands of police with I.Q.’s in the 80-100 range. Is it any surprise then that incidents of police brutality and abuses upon citizens (as well as the Constitution) are now so frequent?
    http://nyletterpress.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/police-reject-candidate-for-being-too-intelligent/

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    25th August 2012 at 8:16 pm

  12. sensetti says:

    This one speaks for it self
    funny-cop-dunkin-donuts-truck-540×394.jpg

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    25th August 2012 at 8:24 pm

  13. sensetti says:

    funny-cop-dunkin-donuts-truck-540×394.jpg

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    25th August 2012 at 8:27 pm

  14. Llpoh says:

    Admin – I believe you re the cops. I disagree re the shooting. I have done a lot of shooting and the world’s greatest marksmen would be at risk of bringing down bystanders in that situation. And are you saying he was standing there like a statue? And I believe he had a gun?

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    25th August 2012 at 8:31 pm

  15. Administrator says:

    When the cops approached him he stopped and pulled out his gun. He was standing still in one spot. They were five feet from him.

    Sixteen fucking shots from five feet away and they hit nine people.

    Give me a fucking break.

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    25th August 2012 at 8:35 pm

  16. Llpoh says:

    Best I can tell he had a gun, was moving some, and they were moving a lot. Same result. In fairness, saring down the barrel of a forty five would make me a bit jumpy and trigger happy too.

    I was in a shop once where the guy at the counter took out a three fifty seven and blasted a hole I the back wall of the shop, for no apparent reason. He was between me and the exit. Scariest moment of m life. If I had been carrying I would have tried to shoot him, of that there is no doubt. But it woul hae been very difficult as adrenalin was pumping, ad he had a big gun himself. He put it away and I bet feet. Called the cops but don’t know the result.

    Easy to criticize but I can tell you it is hard to hit a target while it is moving or you are moving and it is possibly shooting back.

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    25th August 2012 at 8:42 pm

  17. Llpoh says:

    Admin – in the old west, they would pull out their guns and empty them at one another from point blank distance – twelve shots would be fired – and when the smoke cleared both would be standing without a scratch.

    I do not think much of cops. But it isn’t unusual they missed him with so many shots. Actually, if you know about shooting, it would be expected.

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    25th August 2012 at 8:46 pm

  18. Muck About says:

    Every time someone in NYC pull a gun and kills someone or causes someone to be killed, Bloomberg sounds and looks dumber and dumber and more stupid on top of that.

    Of course, if one of the bystanders happened to be armed and pulled a 9mm and started trying to shoot the badguy, it would then GUARANTEE his demise by cop as every policeman in sight would be shooting at him rather than the bad guy.

    In this case, there was no win for anyone. When bullets fly (especially from multiple weapons) there is no telling who’s gonna get popped. Best defense? Drop “pretend dead” on the spot so no one (including the bad guy) will pay you any more attention and shoot someone else. Been there, done that.

    MA

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    25th August 2012 at 8:47 pm

  19. Administrator says:

    llpoh

    You’re right. The NYPD should give these shirts to the nine victims of their efforts in protecting citizens.

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    25th August 2012 at 8:59 pm

  20. IraK, usually known as -a-K--- says:

    I think the NYPD officers have been playing Whack A Mole too much in their spare time.

    Excited and fearful by someone near the Empire State Bldg, I think the police saw someones targets in range and they whacked them. Suspect or bystander, for them there was no difference.

    Poor police training. That’s what I think.

    Also, police officers knowing there’s little accountability for police over reaction may have let to reckless gunning.

    Name changed by contributor who’s familiar with police actions in extreme situations yet is appalled by what occured in NYC and is most sympathetic for the innocent shooting victims.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:01 pm

  21. Administrator says:

    sensetti

    Did you take Muck’s advanced course in picture posting?

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    25th August 2012 at 9:02 pm

  22. Administrator says:

    Was The NYPD Responsible For 10 Of The 11 People Shot Yesterday?

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 08/25/2012 09:44 -0400

    Update: Yes it was – Police: All Empire State shooting victims were wounded by officers

    The official media-friendly narrative explaining yesterday’s latest tragic shooting incident in midtown Manhattan in which a recently unemployed Jeffrey Johnson, 58, walked up to his former boss and shot him three times point blank before “calmly” walking away, is that Johnson also shot 9 other people, luckily none fatally, before being taken down by the NYPD. Sadly, as so often happens these days, the “media-friendly” narrative is wrong, and as CBS and Guardian report, Johnson did not fire during the quote unquote shootout, in which at least nine other perfectly innocent were hit, all of them by stray NYPD bullets.

    From CBS: “Police said it is unlikely that Johnson fired during the shootout.” Uhm, then isn’t shootout a somewhat inaccurate word? “One witness told investigators that Johnson fired, but ballistics tests don’t back that up, authorities said… At least nine other people on the street were also shot, but Mayor Michael Bloomberg said it is unclear whether they were shot by the suspect or police. “Some may have been shot accidentally by police officers who responded immediately,” Bloomberg said.” In other words of the (at least) 11 people shot yesterday, 2 of whom fatally, the NYPD was responsible for 10 of those shot, 9 of whom were literally “collateral damage” in a non-shoot out, and should be sacrificing various animals to their assorted guns that the NYPD, in missing their designated target, is at least quite atrocious in hitting any major organs. All of which of course begs the question: is a hit-to-miss (and potentially hit-to-casualty) ratio of less than 10% for New York’s finest really acceptable and is this the kind of statistic that NY City wishes to boast in enticing new tourists?

    And some more on what really transpired via the Guardian:

    Robert Asika was among those wounded, shot in the elbow from a distance of around eight feet by one of the two police officers who confronted Johnson. He accused police of “shooting randomly”, and said he saw at least two others hit by police bullets.

    “If you’re gonna aim try and aim perfectly. If you wanna aim at the target, you got to know what you’re doing because it’s the street,” Asika said. “I could have been dead right now. I could have been dead.”

    Asika was working on 5th Avenue on Friday morning, selling tickets for tour buses and the building’s observation deck. He had only been in the job a week, after having been unemployed for over a year. “I was just standing there and I saw people running. I didn’t want to run because I wanted to know why people were running so I turned around and I saw this guy,” he said.

    Police said Johnson been employed for six years as a designer of women’s accessories at Hazan Imports. Kelly said during a press conference that he was laid off as part of a downsizing at the firm. Kelly described the gunman as a “disgruntled former employee” who came back to confront his former manager. “He shot and killed the former co-worker, striking him three times,” Kelly said.

    Johnson moved to draw his weapon, a .45 caliber handgun, as the officers approached, police said. There are conflicting reports as to what happened next. “The [police] tape clearly shows that the gunman had the gun out, and was trying to kill the officers,” Bloomberg said. Other officials at the scene reportedly said the man had not fired on police.

    The two police officers discharged 14 rounds, killing Johnson outside the entrance to the Empire State Building. Kelly at first said Johnson fired on officers, but police later said they were trying to determine whether Johnson fired. “These officers … had absolutely no choice,” Kelly said. “This individual took a gun out very close to them and perhaps fired at them.”

    He didn’t. Instead he was mowed down in a cannonade of fire by the NYPD which has shot at least 9 other perfectly innocent bystanders, of whom miraculously none were killed.

    Four women and five men were taken to city hospitals with gunshot wounds, but none was believed to be in a life-threatening condition. Police shut down nearby streets as forensic teams checked the gunman’s body. The FBI were quick to confirm that the attack was not an act of terrorism.

    Askia described the scene when officers caught up with Johnson. He said the gunman stopped six feet away from him, with two officers about eight feet in the other direction. “All of a sudden the guy stopped, and he was facing a cop who was following him,” Asika said.

    “He just reached in his suit and took out the gun, and I saw him pull it [towards] the cops. I’m like, is this guy for real? One of the cops was trying to shoot back at him and one of them shot me while the other one shot the guy.”

    “As soon as the bullet hit me, I felt like I didn’t feel it. But then as soon as I tried to get up, I couldn’t get up. I looked there and the blood was gushing out,” Asika said.

    “I was crawling, trying to get across the street, to the safe side of the street. I got across the street and I just fell at the bus stop and I was laying there and I couldn’t get up no more. I was so tired, I was so scared. I’ve never been scared like that in my whole life.”

    Erica Solar, a mother of two who works as a receptionist on 37th Street, was hit in the back of the leg as she made her way to Dunkin’ Donuts. Solar’s friend, Christopher Collins, found her lying on the street as he got off a bus on his way to work.

    “She was basically in shock. She didn’t know if she had gotten stabbed or if she had gotten shot, but she just knew she was bleeding, and I was just there trying to keep her calm until paramedics arrived,” Collins told the Guardian.

    “It was chaotic. Everybody was running, cops were there immediately,” Collins said. Solar was taken to Bellevue hospital, about a mile from the Empire State Building.

    Another among the wounded was Media Rosario, from Brooklyn, who like Solar was hit in the back of the leg. She said that everything happened so fast, she saw people running, and when she turned around to see what happened, she was already shot,” said her sister-in-law, Auselis Rosario.

    Asika said Bloomberg visited him in hospital, but he received no apology from police.

    That’s explainable: the Mayor was likely distracted by his profound confusion how a deranged assassin with intent to kill was so blatantly unaware of New York City Administrative Code § 10-131 on the use of Firearms, which effectively makes any use or carrying of guns in the city of New York illegal.

    Oh well, time to cut the maximum legal size of a New York soda drink by edict one more time.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:07 pm

  23. Muck About says:

    I stand by my advice.. Don’t try and run or hide or do anything to draw attention to yourself (unless you are armed and wish to stupidly get involved or HAVE to get involved to prevent further deaths). Just fall down “dead”, preferably bouncing your head off the pavement to look convincing. A bruise and black eye is far better than a hole in your chest.

    If it looks like you’re in the line of fire, fall down faster and harder.

    If you are being shot at by a drone or helicopter, as you fall, kiss your ass goodbye as they make up for not being accurate by dumping a lot of ammunition into the target area.

    MA

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    25th August 2012 at 9:17 pm

  24. Anonymous says:

    llpoh: Bull fucking shit.

    As irak said…. poor training. They are supposed to be trained for that very situation. They are supposed to be aware of liability, they are supposed to be better than most on the move.

    I assume a hefty lack of training due to increased need for persons on the beat.

    No less, shooting that many innocent bystanders far exceeds any professional standard for “collateral damage”.

    Sickening display of tactics, training and a severe lack of control. That’s all there is to it.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:23 pm

  25. Llpoh says:

    Of course they were shot by the cops. No argument from me. I just am calling bullshit if anyone thinks that shooting handguns at an armed perp is going to be anything other than an exercise in probabilities – the probability is that no more than half the shots fired at him at close range will hit him, and the probability decreases rapidly as distance increases. The half the shots that miss him will eventually hit something else – in crowded NYC that means people.

    So either they shoot at him or they don’t. If they do, odds are bystanders will be hit. Damned if you do and damned if you don’t. At least the weren’t carrying machine guns – they would have taken down dozens.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:24 pm

  26. Llpoh says:

    Another anonymous moron. I watched the vid – they had seconds to do what they did. Tactics my ass. Shoot him or not. I used to be a good shot – grew up shooting anything with a trigger. But combat handgun work is a roll of the dice at best.

    Buy a fucking clue. I am sure they are trained. But odds are they never shot at another human in their life. No training for that, unless you want to volunteer. Douchebag.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:29 pm

  27. Llpoh says:

    Muck’s advice is pretty good. Run like hell isn’t a bad option either so long as all the folks with guns are behind you.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:30 pm

  28. Administrator says:

    The dude shot one specific person and was fleeing the scene calmly. He was not planning on shooting anyone else until the police confronted him. Maybe the experts in law enforcment should realize that the Empire State Building area at rush hour on a weekday might be crowded with people. The NYPD are a bunch of clueless thugs. Starting a shootout in which they were the only ones who fired a shot is a tribute to their lack of common sense and desire not to protect the citizens of NY.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:34 pm

  29. Llpoh says:

    You ignorant shit for brains- I just looked up the stats on police shootings. Ninety percent of police shootings occur between zero and six feet. Do you know what the hit rate is? At effectively point blank range? Nineteen fucking percent. That’s right, asshole. Nineteen fucking percent.

    These guys hit him around forty percent, so they are way better than average, and looks to me the distance was a bit further than six feet.

    Damn, I sure hate it when I am right. People who know nothing about a subject should shut the fuck up.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:42 pm

  30. Llpoh says:

    Admin – no problem with your last comment at all. My point exactly. But once they started shooting, anyone saying they were incompetent in their shooting doesn’t know anything about shooting – they actually shot very accurately relative to normal performance. But whether they should have shot at him at all is the question.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:46 pm

  31. Administrator says:

    I wonder how much compensation will be paid to the 9 victims for their trouble. I’m betting millions.

    Bloomberg can just double the tax on soda, since that is the 2nd biggest threat to New Yorkers.

    The biggest threat is their own NYPD.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:48 pm

  32. printmemoney says:

    These idiots would be looking at a court martial for murder if they did this in Kabul……..

    Thank God for the unions to protect them.

    At least they’ll probably be relegated to the evidence locker…..where they can steal drugs and supplement their income.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:50 pm

  33. Llpoh says:

    As an aside, people using handguns for personal protection should keep those stats in mind: at point blank range, and by that I mean close enough to reach out and touch someone – in a stressful situation your odds are less than one in five that you will hit your target.

    Another interesting star – since they went to semi autos cops now fire ten shots per incident, where prior to semis it was five. In firefights that says they point and shoot til it goes click, no matter what. This is another example of that, more or less.

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    25th August 2012 at 10:02 pm

  34. printmemoney says:

    The reason the military went from full auto to semi-auto is similar. In Vietnam, the troops would go through the first magazine before they had a chance to identify where the enemy was firing from.

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    25th August 2012 at 10:14 pm

  35. Anonymous says:

    That’s the point of training, Einstein. What part of my comment said anything about marksmanship?

    Even pecker-shootin varmints with your daddy’s shotgun, llpoh’s idea of combat training, includes some sort of awareness of what’s beyond the target.

    Not only for the civilians caught in the frey but fellow officers.

    Bad training. Period.

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    25th August 2012 at 10:15 pm

  36. Administrator says:

    I hope I don’t miss with this.

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    25th August 2012 at 10:26 pm

  37. llpoh says:

    Admin – I said that the issue was whether to shoot or not. Once he pulled his piece it became shoot for sure. Then they were always gonna miss. I am kinda on your side on this. Don’t make me go feral.

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    25th August 2012 at 10:37 pm

  38. Anonymous says:

    Administrator:

    That would have been ideal, actually. A hit with limited overshoot.

    Not perfect, but as far as liability is concerned, especially for home protection, a shotgun is as good as it gets.

    WHAT IS BEYOND YOUR TARGET IS ALMOST IF NOT JUST AS IMPORTANT AS YOUR TARGET.

    It looks like they were beat cops not in a cruiser. They probably didn’t have the option on hand (they don’t have shotguns on slings yet).

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    25th August 2012 at 10:38 pm

  39. Administrator says:

    llpoh

    I just enjoy watching you get fired up.

    I just hate Bloomberg and the NYPD with a passion.

    I believe in belittling and ridiculing those that I hate.

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    25th August 2012 at 10:44 pm

  40. llpoh says:

    Admin – I know. I hate em too.

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    25th August 2012 at 10:48 pm

  41. bb says:

    TO ALL, why do you hate police….. 50 years old and the police have been good to me even when they were locking me up.repect the cops and they will you in return.

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    25th August 2012 at 11:11 pm

  42. FBD says:

    bb

    Congrats on the DUMBEST FUCKING post of all time on TBP.

    And learn how to spell. Maroon.

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    25th August 2012 at 11:17 pm

  43. youcanthavemyglock says:

    Bloomberg should put those flower pots in every NYC police shooting range, that will evaluate the nycpd training to new heights, soon these dumbfucks can replace navy seal 6 team before you know it

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    25th August 2012 at 11:51 pm

  44. Llpoh says:

    Shotgun is the weapon of choice close range. Home protection is best done with a shotgun. Small bore will do the trik – 20 gauge is more than sufficient. And it wont go through walls and kill your kids on the other side.

    Anonymous the dipshit – didn’t you read the post where they went to larger magazines for the military as they had the same problem as the cops – shoot ten times and hit nothing? Do you think Navy seals use handguns as their weapons of choice? You are dumber than a sack of rocks. Even if we trained the cops full time, in times of stress and surprise they are going to miss their targets. Shit, I have heard that at 25 feet a running man is almost impossible to hit – unload your Glock at him and hope to get lucky.

    Rifles and shotguns are the way to go – preferably from behind cover.

    How come anonymous posters tend to be retards?

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    25th August 2012 at 12:18 am

  45. bb says:

    TO FBD , why dumb , hate cops for doing thier job, they did what they do and if they would not have stop him there he would have killed again sooner or later. as my spelling goes i get in a hurry .alot of good posts to read . OVER ALL THE COPS HAVE BEEN GOOD TO ME .so relax FBD.

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    25th August 2012 at 12:32 am

  46. Llpoh says:

    Just read that the cops never had fired their guns on duty before. Wow. Imagine that.

    I wonder how much it would cot to keep police trained up like Navy Seals, while at the same time having them carry out normal police duties?

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    25th August 2012 at 12:34 am

  47. bb says:

    TO FBD ,one more thing , YOU may need cops just like those to save YOUR ass one day.

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    25th August 2012 at 12:40 am

  48. Leobeer says:

    Llpoh, Most cities are broke, they can’t afford further training for the cops.

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    25th August 2012 at 12:41 am

  49. Llpoh says:

    Leo – I know. That was sarcasm.

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    25th August 2012 at 1:14 am

  50. FBD says:

    dd

    Unlike llpoh, I realize when I’m being trolled.

    Nice try though. You get an “A” for effort.

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    25th August 2012 at 1:15 am

  51. Colma Rising says:

    Hey Anonymous:

    My conclusion after going a sweaty round with your skank was that she needed “better training”.

    Lucky for you, I had plenty of time and she had plenty of money… She’s a real “professional” now. It only took a few goes over a week which, I must say, pushed my limits… you know, with that face of hers only a mother could love.

    Don’t thank me… consider it a public service.

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    25th August 2012 at 1:28 am

  52. youcanthavemyglock says:

    Llpoh, are you replying to my post? it was sarcastic…I think after watching this video a normal person would conclude that these ‘cops’ have as much training for their job as a wal mart greeting lady.

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    25th August 2012 at 1:30 am

  53. Colma Rising says:

    FBD: You are a wily motherfucker.

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    25th August 2012 at 1:43 am

  54. llpoh says:

    Cops are not well trained in combat. Even were they, their hit rates wouldn’t be much better. As I have said, hitting an armed targetr with a pistol shot from point blank range is subject to the laws of probability. Shoot ten times hit target twice. It has been established in the military and the police that it is so – human nature is to flinch, move, duck, etc. In combat in WWII, only oneout of seven trained soldiers would actually shoot their rifles at the enemy during combat. The rest kept under cover or fired in the air, etcm

    The comments about training are bullshit. Unless you train full-time and are in peak condition, and are totally prepared for combat at any instant, the results are predictible – people hide from danger and can’t hit the broad side of a barn.

    Anyone thinking they can handle themselves in combat with a hand gun need to face reality – it is a rill of the dice – your dice against his.

    Those cops did better than average once they started shooting. Thems the facts. Should they have chosen a different path? Maybe.

    I know of two sharpshooters during combat – Sgt York and Audie Murphy.m. There are others but they are rare as hens teeth. Audie was either insane or the most cold blooded mother I ever heard of. Look up his exploits to see what valour is all about.

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    25th August 2012 at 1:45 am

  55. flash says:

    Loopy , just because you can’t hit a moving target with a handgun doesn’t mean others can’t.

    I’ve had more than a few successful hunts using a handgun.

    e.g.

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    25th August 2012 at 7:44 am

  56. Administrator says:

    bb

    If you think the cops are going to save your ass someday, you are living on a different planet.

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    25th August 2012 at 9:29 am

  57. Administrator says:

    If the NYPD can’t hit a stationary target from five feet, why are the citizens paying these fuckers $100,000 per year with gold plated pensions and healthcare so they can retire at 50 years old and become a security guard at Walgreens?

    Couldn’t we pay some dudes with IQs of 75 $10.00 per hour to protect us just as well?

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    25th August 2012 at 9:34 am

  58. FT says:

    Here’s a little more info on the YouTube video I posted from the prior thread of another of these idiots “handling” a different situation.

    http://www.examiner.com/article/the-gun-shot-heard-across-the-web-the-shooting-of-star-the-dog?CID=obinsite

    Take comfort, they can hit and kill a dog accurately at point blank range without hitting a single bystander. Hooray for Bloomberg’s soldiers!

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    25th August 2012 at 11:51 am

  59. Muck About says:

    This little gem (llpoh note!) is a 20 ga. Mossberg model 500 with a tac stock. It lurks behind my bedroom door and is fully loaded – but has nothing in the chamber. It is light, handy, has an 18″ barrel and an open barrel (no choke). It’s location places it between me and any entrance to my home.

    If it should ever be needed, I WANT the invader to hear the CLICK-CLACK of a round rocking into the chamber when I pump it. That is a sound that a casual burglar or a home invader (likely armed with a pistol or knife) would hate to hear and cause him to immediately reverse course and beat feet into the dark.

    If he’s really stupid, the 20 ga. shells are loaded with #2 buck and will perforate his stupid ass very nicely at the twenty foot distance between where I will be and where he will be.

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    It also doubles as a fine close in dove and pheasant shooter when loaded with #8 birdshot. The right tool is nice to have.

    MA

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    25th August 2012 at 2:05 pm

  60. Muck About says:

    Well shit. That’s a little large, isn’t it.. That’s how big it looks to a burglar coming in a busted window or shattered door.

    MA

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    25th August 2012 at 2:07 pm

  61. a cruel accountant says:

    This is what happens when you give guns to government bureaucrats whose only job is to give tickets to people who jaywalk, did not renew their (fill in the blank )license, spit on the sidewalk, beggars, exercising their right to free speech, have koolade stands,

    I believe in gun control for bureaucrats.

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    25th August 2012 at 5:40 pm

  62. a cruel accountant says:

    These guys are not cops. They are free shit army with guns given to them by the government.

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    25th August 2012 at 5:43 pm

  63. llpoh says:

    Muck – nice! That is what I am taqlking about!

    Flash and the rest of the dumbfucks taht think people can be Annie Oakley in a gunfight:

    The fucking stats do not lie. At point blank range – and by that I mean zero to six feet – police hit their target (and by hit I do not mean torso, I mean just anywhere – arm, finger, testicle, whatever) less than 20% of the time. That stat hasn’t changed over the decades that it is tracked. Funny enough, the same type stats apply in the military – except worse, as they are shooting over greater distance.

    Hitting an unarmed furry critter is not nearly the ame thing as hitting an armed opponent – not nearly. You folks that think you would be better than trained cops – trained porly cops quite possibly, but trained nonetheless – in an unexpected combat situation are clueless and totally full of shit. Thousands upon thousands of incidents have been tracked, and the stats remain the same – point blank range, armed opponent, odds of connecting under 20%, shoot your gun ’til empty and play the odds.

    Stupid dickheads. Except for Muck. And the Admin, of course.

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    25th August 2012 at 6:55 pm

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