Posted on 6th November 2012 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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Time for another TBP contest. There are 538 electoral votes up for grabs tonight. You need 270 to become President.

Please provide your guess for the final electoral count tonight.

As a tiebreaker, please provide your guess on the overall popular vote.

The winner of this contest will get an all expenses paid trip to Staten Island and be put up at a 2 star hotel without electricity or heat. As an added bonus, you will receive a FEMA tee shirt made in China that says:


Don’t forget – vote early and vote often.

In early results from Towamencin PA, Gary Johnson has racked up 1 vote.

  1. John A says:

    The latest Rasmussen Report for the 2012 electorial vote:


    6th November 2012 at 9:02 am

  2. John A says:

    electoral Sorry!


    6th November 2012 at 9:04 am

  3. card802 says:

    Tweet of the day:

    “Experts are predicting an early lead for democrats, at least until the Republicans get off work.”

    My guess: 305 Romney

    Me: One more vote for Gary Johnson


    6th November 2012 at 9:06 am

  4. youcanthavemyglock says:

    Romney 308 Obama 230
    Overall: ~ 55 mil Obama, ~62 mil Romney
    Gary Johnson has my vote, whooo!


    6th November 2012 at 9:16 am

  5. Zarathustra says:

    Truly, couldn’t care less.


    6th November 2012 at 9:17 am

  6. Eddie says:

    My guess is Obama by a small margin. It’s really too close to call, imho.

    I still intend to vote for Ron Paul. And against our local tax initiative.


    6th November 2012 at 9:19 am

  7. sangell says:

    Is this an election or just a pantomine exercise. I stood in line to first thing. Chatting with a doctor who came here from Paraguay as we waited for the polls to open and I learn we live in the same condo community when we show our ID’s and get issued receipts we must then take to get our ballots. The machine that issues them jams! Not good. We are maybe the 9th and 10th voters and already equipment malfunctions. Poll workers huddle around machine and after a few minutes it spits out our ‘receipts’. We go collect our ballots. Its a lengthy one in Florida this year and it comes in two big hard paper sheets. No chads though, you just fill in the circle for your candidate or vote yes/no on ballot initiatives. I finish mine and take to the lady who runs the machine where the ballots are inserted. Machine says my ballot is invalid and spits it back out. Lady says try again. I do same result. She says try the 2nd ballot paper ( the one that doesn’t have president, senate or congress candidates on it) and machine takes it. Try the first one again and machine again says ‘invalid’.

    I’m told to stand to the side as election workers huddle. I’m told I must go and get a new ballot and fill out a ‘spoiled ballot’ form. I do and hand a woman the portion of my ballot the machine wouldn’t take. Another woman hands me a new ballot. I go and fill it out but then realize I both sections of the ballot so if I cast them I would be voting twice on the second portion of the ballot, the portion the machine had already accepted during my first attempt to submit my ballots.

    More huddling by poll workers. They take the second portion of the ballot and tell me to go and try and insert just the first half. Machine accepts it but its numbers won’t match the other half of my ballot so I have no idea if my vote will count or not or be considered a spoiled ballot and thrown out. Welcome to third world America where the government cannot even hold an election.


    6th November 2012 at 9:38 am

  8. Kepi says:

    I guess I’ll go with

    Obama: 322
    Romney: 216

    I also think the House will prolly get taken again by the Democrats. The Republicans have lost a lot of ground and a lot of face in pretty key areas around the country in the past 2 years and no matter how much the media feels it needs to pass this off as a tight race, traditional non-tea party republicans spent the better part of the last 2 years face palming every time they turned on the news, and after the past 2 or 3 months of culture war barnstorming and blustery posturing is going to encourage that base to show up to the polls. This is going to be Bush v. Kerry all over again, except the needle will be in the opposite direction.

    Disclosure: I hate all the existing options, including 3rd party from Justice to Constitution, and am sitting up thinking about writing in Aqua-man (he’s not the hero America needs, but it’s the hero she deserves) for all my national level votes so I can nail down the important state ballots we have.


    6th November 2012 at 9:45 am

  9. John Angelo says:

    Tie! 269-269. Obama wins the popular vote 49.9% to 49.8%. Ballots cast for Gary Johnson and write-in votes for Ron Paul account for the other approximate 0.5% (certain bloggers and their cohorts are alleged to be responsible). The Republicans win the House and elect Romney president. Blacks riot in the fashion of Rodney King getting beaten AND the Lakers losing game 7 in the finals on the same night. The Democrats meanwhile win the Senate and elect Biden as Vice President.


    6th November 2012 at 10:00 am

  10. Muck About says:

    @Zarathustra: What you said…



    6th November 2012 at 10:03 am

  11. FT says:

    My best guess is Barry 271, Mitt 267 with even more controversy than in 2000, in an election with virtually nothing at stake.

    Gary Johnson will not only become the first Libertarian candidate to break 7 digits, he will get at least 2 million votes. Falls short of the desired 5% percent unfortunately, but not by much, and people do take notice.

    Ron Paul will have several hundred thousand write-ins. If GJ got those writeins instead, he might approach 5 percent.


    6th November 2012 at 10:19 am

  12. [email protected] says:

    Romney in EC and popular vote.

    Serious allegations of voter fraud in NV and OHIO. OHIO toss up, depends on how many felons vote. Illegal aliens carry NV vote for Obama.

    PA,NC, NH, IA , FL go to Romney.

    Romney takes TX in 20 points and we secede from the Union anyway.


    6th November 2012 at 10:25 am

  13. Ron says:

    Romney wins by a large enough amount to make democrats cry.Ron Paul gets more votes then Johnson.


    6th November 2012 at 10:27 am

  14. Stan says:

    Obama -308
    Romney -230

    Romney wins popular vote
    Republicans keep house. Dems keep senate

    No riots


    6th November 2012 at 10:29 am

  15. Eddie says:

    “Romney takes TX in 20 points and we secede from the Union anyway.”

    Rick Perry’s greatest non-homosexual fantasy.


    6th November 2012 at 10:30 am

  16. AKAnon says:

    I helped close down my favorite watering hole last night-they don’t have heat or insulation, so they shut down every year after halloween (It is -20F this morning). I don’t usually talk politics at the bar, but being Nov 5, the topic came up often. Seems like a tough choice for most folks there-GJ or write-in RP. Roughly even numbers. God I love Alaska.


    6th November 2012 at 10:30 am

  17. Stan says:

    I would love for this election to end in a tie!!
    Oh what fun!


    6th November 2012 at 10:43 am

  18. Davos says:

    XYZ states too close to call. Both parties demand recounts. A few weeks later both parties unhappy and go to Supreme Court. One of the 2 morons loses by 500,000 votes and becomes our president. (Sound familiar?)


    6th November 2012 at 10:47 am

  19. Wyoming Mike says:

    Obomney 268, Robama 269. Ron Paul wins 1 vote from Maine as the do proportional by district. Ron Paul wins presidency when the young folks refuse to buckle, forcing the neocons to vote with them. Biden is VP.


    6th November 2012 at 10:56 am

  20. Oscar Mannheim says:

    Slobs triumphant no matter what the outcome! All power to the slobs!


    6th November 2012 at 11:07 am

  21. JIMSKI says:

    Bankers proxy 538
    America 0

    I am going to get SOOOOO drunk tonight.


    6th November 2012 at 11:09 am

  22. flash says:

    youcanthavemyglock , a vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Obama.


    6th November 2012 at 11:29 am

  23. youcanthavemyglock says:

    flash, want to elaborate? I’m from NY so in my state any vote is for Obama.


    6th November 2012 at 11:36 am

  24. Administrator says:

    Monday Morning

    Peggy Noonan

    We begin with the three words everyone writing about the election must say: Nobody knows anything. Everyone’s guessing. I spent Sunday morning in Washington with journalists and political hands, one of whom said she feels it’s Obama, the rest of whom said they don’t know. I think it’s Romney. I think he’s stealing in “like a thief with good tools,” in Walker Percy’s old words. While everyone is looking at the polls and the storm, Romney’s slipping into the presidency. He’s quietly rising, and he’s been rising for a while.

    Obama and the storm, it was like a wave that lifted him and then moved on, leaving him where he’d been. Parts of Jersey and New York are a cold Katrina. The exact dimensions of the disaster will become clearer when the election is over. One word: infrastructure. Officials knew the storm was coming and everyone knew it would be bad, but the people of the tristate area were not aware, until now, just how vulnerable to deep damage their physical system was. The people in charge of that system are the politicians. Mayor Bloomberg wanted to have the Marathon, to show New York’s spirit. In Staten Island last week they were bitterly calling it “the race through the ruins.” There is a disconnect.

    But to the election. Who knows what to make of the weighting of the polls and the assumptions as to who will vote? Who knows the depth and breadth of each party’s turnout efforts? Among the wisest words spoken this cycle were by John Dickerson of CBS News and Slate, who said, in a conversation the night before the last presidential debate, that he thought maybe the American people were quietly cooking something up, something we don’t know about.

    I think they are and I think it’s this: a Romney win.

    Romney’s crowds are building—28,000 in Morrisville, Pa., last night; 30,000 in West Chester, Ohio, Friday It isn’t only a triumph of advance planning: People came, they got through security and waited for hours in the cold. His rallies look like rallies now, not enactments. In some new way he’s caught his stride. He looks happy and grateful. His closing speech has been positive, future-looking, sweetly patriotic. His closing ads are sharp—the one about what’s going on at the rallies is moving.

    All the vibrations are right. A person who is helping him who is not a longtime Romneyite told me, yesterday: “I joined because I was anti Obama—I’m a patriot, I’ll join up But now I am pro-Romney.” Why? “I’ve spent time with him and I care about him and admire him. He’s a genuinely good man.” Looking at the crowds on TV, hearing them chant “Three more days” and “Two more days”—it feels like a lot of Republicans have gone from anti-Obama to pro-Romney.

    Something old is roaring back. One of the Romney campaign’s surrogates, who appeared at a rally with him the other night, spoke of the intensity and joy of the crowd “I worked the rope line, people wouldn’t let go of my hand.” It startled him. A former political figure who’s been in Ohio told me this morning something is moving with evangelicals, other church-going Protestants and religious Catholics. He said what’s happening with them is quiet, unreported and spreading: They really want Romney now, they’ll go out and vote, the election has taken on a new importance to them.

    There is no denying the Republicans have the passion now, the enthusiasm. The Democrats do not. Independents are breaking for Romney. And there’s the thing about the yard signs. In Florida a few weeks ago I saw Romney signs, not Obama ones. From Ohio I hear the same. From tony Northwest Washington, D.C., I hear the same.

    Is it possible this whole thing is playing out before our eyes and we’re not really noticing because we’re too busy looking at data on paper instead of what’s in front of us? Maybe that’s the real distortion of the polls this year: They left us discounting the world around us.

    And there is Obama, out there seeming tired and wan, showing up through sheer self discipline. A few weeks ago I saw the president and the governor at the Al Smith dinner, and both were beautiful specimens in their white ties and tails, and both worked the dais. But sitting there listening to the jokes and speeches, the archbishop of New York sitting between them, Obama looked like a young challenger—flinty, not so comfortable. He was distracted, and his smiles seemed forced. He looked like a man who’d just seen some bad internal polling. Romney? Expansive, hilarious, self-spoofing, with a few jokes of finely calibrated meanness that were just perfect for the crowd. He looked like a president. He looked like someone who’d just seen good internals.

    Of all people, Obama would know if he is in trouble. When it comes to national presidential races, he is a finely tuned political instrument: He read the field perfectly in 2008. He would know if he’s losing now, and it would explain his joylessness on the stump. He is out there doing what he has to to fight the fight. But he’s still trying to fire up the base when he ought to be wooing the center and speaking their calm centrist talk. His crowds haven’t been big. His people have struggled to fill various venues. This must hurt the president after the trememdous, stupendous crowds of ’08. “Voting’s the best revenge”—revenge against who, and for what? This is not a man who feels himself on the verge of a grand victory. His campaign doesn’t seem president-sized. It is small and sad and lost, driven by formidable will and zero joy.

    I suspect both Romney and Obama have a sense of what’s coming, and it’s part of why Romney looks so peaceful and Obama so roiled.

    Romney ends most rallies with his story of the Colorado scout troop that in 1986 had an American flag put in the space shuttle Challenger, saw the Challenger blow up as they watched on TV, and then found, through the persistence of their scoutmaster, that the flag had survived the explosion. It was returned to them by NASA officials. When Romney, afterward, was shown the flag, he touched it, and an electric jolt went up his arm. It’s a nice story. He doesn’t make its meaning fully clear. But maybe he means it as a metaphor for America: It can go through a terrible time, a catastrophe, as it has economically the past five years, and still emerge whole, intact, enduring.

    Maybe that’s what the coming Romney moment is about: independents, conservatives, Republicans, even some Democrats, thinking: We can turn it around, we can work together, we can right this thing, and he can help.


    6th November 2012 at 11:48 am

  25. Wyoming Mike says:

    Flash, riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I take issue with the math. Even if your moronic statement was somehow correct in principle, it’s only 1/2 a vote. Back to the 3rd grade with you!


    6th November 2012 at 11:40 am

  26. Welshman says:

    FSA controls California, so voting for GJ or RP is just a feel good thing to do.


    6th November 2012 at 11:50 am

  27. sangell says:

    What happens in California today might be just as important as the national election. California may not be a battleground state as it was back in 1978 when the passage of Proposition 13 ( a measure to limit skyrocketing property taxes) but if Proposition 30 ( an effort to raise taxes to fund public employee unions) fails then it would signal another tax revolt is coming.

    Prop 30 is supposed to be about ‘education’ , a buzzword the left loves because it makes public employee union raids on the taxpayer seem altruistic, but it is really just a last ditch effort to prevent the state from overt bankruptcy. Without the $ 6 billion in additional income and sales tax revenue this measure is supposed to generate its game over in Sacramento. Thus Governor Brown and the public employee unions have poured millions into its passage. Symbolically one of the main opponents is the Howard Jarvis group that led the fight to pass proposition 13 when Jerry Brown was spraying insecticide on Californians in his battle with fruit flies and earning his nickname of “Moonbeam’ during his first appearance as Governor of California.

    If even today’s far more liberal Californians won’t pass prop 30 then the jig is up everywhere in the US for more government.


    6th November 2012 at 11:52 am

  28. flash says:

    youcanthavemyglock and Wyoming Mike ,

    This is the most important election ever and every vote for Johnson is a vote taken away from Romney.

    Romney is the last chance for saving our Republic .
    If Obama is re-elected , sharia law will supplant our Constitution and Iran will get a nuclear bomb and use it to control the MENA oil flow which will cause American commerce to grind to a halt.

    Obama is the anti-christ and not supporting Romney is the same as throwing your full support behind Satan!
    Do you want to support Satan?

    If you do then vote Gary Johnson,

    I shouldn’t have to explain the perils of third party support to purportedly sane individuals…SHEESSHHHH


    6th November 2012 at 12:14 pm

  29. Cynical30 says:

    Let’s just say I’m putting a deposit down on a shiny new AR-15 in an hour or so to lock in the price for 90 days.


    6th November 2012 at 12:21 pm

  30. Cynical30 says:

    BTW – Whipped out my Johnson in FL.


    6th November 2012 at 12:22 pm

  31. Oscar Mannheim says:

    It would appear that glue-sniffing has replaced baseball as the national pastime in the USA. Granted, I haven’t lived there since ’98, so… But even so!

    Tote dat barge/Lift dat bale…

    Y’all are fugged no matter how this farce turns out. Think of chinless Leon in “Blade Runner”: “Wake up! Time to die!” Except that no one is on hand to shoot him.

    The Death of a Thousand Cuts awaits you, just as it does nearly all of us: the boot falleth and your neck is beneath it.


    6th November 2012 at 12:42 pm

  32. Administrator says:

    Obama – 271
    Romney – 267

    Obama wins Ohio by 0.2%

    Romney wins the popular vote 50.5% to Obama’s 48.8% vote, with 0.7% to third party candidates.


    6th November 2012 at 12:58 pm

  33. Stucky says:

    Ms Freud voted early yesterday.

    No one checked/asked for any sort of ID … not even a drivers license. No one else was checked either. You could have been from Mars, and voted.

    She estimated almost half the people there were black. Gee, I wonder who they voted for. Oh …. Scotch Plains is 5% black.

    I guess — due to hurricane Sandy — that any person from any town/state/country/planet can vote where ever the fuck they want ….. probably as often as they want, also.


    6th November 2012 at 1:00 pm

  34. Hollow man says:

    Romney cannot beat the fraud factor.


    6th November 2012 at 1:02 pm

  35. Llpoh says:

    FSA will get Obama home, and FSA will never lose an election again. Too big to fail.


    6th November 2012 at 1:40 pm

  36. Administrator says:


    6th November 2012 at 1:44 pm

  37. VietVet says:

    Republican sweeps with massive landslide, takes The WH, House and Senate in the most massive voter turnout in American History.

    Obama locks himself in the White House and refuses to come out.

    The Republicans send John McCain in the pull him out by force. The Secret Services flees the building.

    All is right with the world.


    6th November 2012 at 1:46 pm

  38. bluestem says:

    It will be stolen. John


    6th November 2012 at 1:53 pm

  39. ThePessimisticChemist says:

    “A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama!”

    “A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Obama!”

    I’m getting sick of this shit. I can’t wait for the “election” to be over.


    6th November 2012 at 2:05 pm

  40. Wyoming Mike says:

    Flash, go have another kool-aid with Hope. Me? I’m not playing anymore. I watched Romney steal the nomination first hand, and I’m not voting for someone on the off chance they’ll steal less from me than the other guy. I have a choice, your advice or John Quincy Adams…”Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.” How do you think I’ll go??

    I will proudly make several liberty minded votes this afternoon including a few for school board which is a much more important race than the Giant Douche vs the Turd Sandwich.


    6th November 2012 at 2:20 pm

  41. ASIG says:

    I know for a fact there is at least one vote for principle here in California.


    6th November 2012 at 2:44 pm

  42. Terry says:

    I personally guarantee this prediction:

    1% wins 100%


    6th November 2012 at 2:51 pm

  43. Thinker says:

    My prediction: we won’t know who “won” until Friday.


    6th November 2012 at 3:05 pm

  44. flash says:

    Only an anti-American communist would not vote for Romney.
    If you don’t like this country then leave it.

    Many soldiers died to protect your duty to vote responsibly

    There are only two parties and the American people must choose either liberal Dem or conservative Repub.

    There is no other path to political power

    So you can either choose Obama’s dedicated path to turning the county over to a Marxist government or choose Romney’ trailbazing US back to a freedom loving ,pro-capitalist nation .

    Your choice….


    6th November 2012 at 3:34 pm

  45. flash says:

    Wyoming Mike, Hope drinks that family dollar discount swill that comes in a gaudy box and I take my scotch neat.
    But, if she’s serving kool-aid while getting those B-52s warmed up I ‘m in like Flynn.


    6th November 2012 at 3:42 pm

  46. Bullock says:

    Flash you are a fucking idiot. And thats the problem we face, the majority of Americans think like you.

    It’s to late to really give a shit who wins because it’s game over for this once great country. But I do believe the 3 hours I spent putting holes in targets today will come in real handy in the future.

    Anyone who owns an AR type rifle I highly recommend getting a 6.8 SPC upper receiver for there rifle. Put 300 rounds through my new purchase and I really like the results so far. Now my AK just might be pushed to the back of the shelf.


    6th November 2012 at 4:17 pm

  47. FT says:

    For the record, this vote for Gary Johnson was not a vote that otherwise would have gone to Romney and never had a prayer of going to Romney.

    If the Republicans wanted my vote, they should either nominated Ron Paul or Gary Johnson.


    6th November 2012 at 4:18 pm

  48. Administrator says:

    It looks like if TBP was the nation, Johnson would have won in a landslide, with Ron Paul in 2nd place.


    6th November 2012 at 4:20 pm

  49. Wyoming Mike says:

    Well said FT!


    6th November 2012 at 4:21 pm

  50. IndenturedServant says:

    Two things:
    1. Does it matter?
    2. Regardless of the outcome, the U.S.A. and it’s citizens will lose.

    Oh yeah, which one is the Giant Douche and which one is the Turd Sandwich? Oh, never mind!


    6th November 2012 at 4:32 pm

  51. Bullock says:

    You know what I am so fucking tired of hearing? “Battleground State”

    I believe someday in the future Battleground State might have a whole new meaning.

    Now I must go cast my vote. Chalk one more for Gary Johnson in the “Battleground State” Florida.


    6th November 2012 at 5:00 pm

  52. Wyoming Mike says:

    Off to whip out my Johnson!

    On a side note, I’m kind of pulling for Mittens Obomney, just to watch all the crying, bitching, and rioting that will go on from the ignorent masses. Mittens will still continue the path, but at least the FSA will be pissed.


    6th November 2012 at 5:06 pm

  53. FT says:

    FWIW, 3 of my friends who voted for Johnson this time voted for B.O. in ’08.


    6th November 2012 at 5:24 pm

  54. IndenturedServant says:

    I’ll bet it will be weeks before we know the winner.


    6th November 2012 at 5:41 pm

  55. flash says:

    Bullock , if We the People don’t put a pro-gun , America first , conservative leader like Romney in the oval office , we won’t have the right to buy an AR much less a 6.8SPC upper receiver to improve shots out to 300 yards by 2016.

    Wyoming Mike, they’re were no mooslime form Kenya storming the beaches at Normandy, only men with the courage to put the Cosntituion and America first. True patriots like Romney.

    This is American Republic’s last chance knocking on your door.will you let her in?



    6th November 2012 at 5:41 pm

  56. flash says:

    If Obama is reelected it’ll be on you commie third party voters’ head.
    You know who you are!


    6th November 2012 at 5:43 pm

  57. a cruel accountant says:

    269 each

    Then civil war.


    6th November 2012 at 5:44 pm

  58. a cruel accountant says:

    Voted for G Johnson and a guy with the first name of Nimrod. Could not pass that up.


    6th November 2012 at 5:46 pm

  59. Stucky says:

    Hating Obama is so, like, five QEs ago.

    I hope Romney wins.

    I need fresh meat to loathe for the next four years.


    6th November 2012 at 6:01 pm

  60. IndenturedServant says:

    a cruel accountant says:

    “Voted for G Johnson and a guy with the first name of Nimrod. Could not pass that up.”

    LOL! I don’t see how that could go wrong! Nimrod might be Obama’s long lost brother from Kenya. They look exactly alike except Nimrod is three feet tall. After SHTF, they will join forces to rule Bartertown as Master Blaster. Under My Thumb by the Stones will play 24/7 as background music for your bartering pleasure.


    6th November 2012 at 6:09 pm

  61. Kepi says:

    ACA, I know a guy named Nimrod, and that was a self-fulfilling prophecy if I ever found one. And he’s not a bad guy. He’s funny, sometimes fairly insightful, but if you ever wanted a picture of “poor life decisions”, it’s that guy. The combination of badluck and lack of foresight is unparalleled.


    6th November 2012 at 6:22 pm

  62. Kill Bill says:

    Dont be hating on us toofless Pleiadians we are voting for the same two you are.


    6th November 2012 at 6:33 pm

  63. Bullock says:

    Flash, Romney signed in 2004 a permanent ban on assault weapons while Governor of Mass. He described assault weapons as “instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people.” In my book he is just another clueless fuck. And Romney is about as conservative as Bush was.

    As far as that voting thing I went to do. There was a 3 hour line to vote and I had more important things to do such as get a few pair of jeans. Damn, Sears was empty, I do believe they are toast.

    Who knows, when you cast your vote for Johnson it probably automatically goes to either Obamy or the clueless fuck. With the technology we have today why should you have to wait so long. I can cook a fucking turkey faster than I can vote. Plus standing in line with a bunch of lost sheep is no way to spend an evening.


    6th November 2012 at 7:07 pm

  64. flash says:

    Romney pulls ahead for an early lead . No thanks to the Johnson’s pack of commie curs.

    Real Americans will not soon forget those whop turned their back on the great conservative American patriot , Willard Romney.

    He’s one of US fer chrisakes..


    6th November 2012 at 7:25 pm

  65. Destin says:

    Flash go fuck yourself you pathetic, delusional sheep. The lesser of two evils got us to where we are today and only a complete imbecile like you would think that the very same will lead us out of it. I’ve got all the guns I need already and whoever tries to take them will find themselves staring down the barrel of one.


    6th November 2012 at 7:28 pm

  66. flash says:

    Bullock , that was the old Romney.He now believes it’s the right of Americans to own whatever weapon they choose to mount on a turret in the back of their truck

    He’s been reborn to fulfill the Mormon prophecy of saving this Republic and third party curs go off chasing moonbeams and rainbows in a homo marriage promoting, ex-hippie, pot huffing governator.

    I’m taken a back at the lack of American exceptionalism shown by those who throw their votes away on a third party johnson come lately.


    6th November 2012 at 7:36 pm

  67. John A says:

    Early election results. Not much but it’s all I could find at this time:


    6th November 2012 at 7:37 pm

  68. Stucky says:

    As I mentioned in another post, I am not voting this year. Fuckit.

    From The Daily Bell … this guy gets it.


    Best Way to Make a Difference in Today’s Vote

    Tuesday, November 06, 2012 – by Anthony Wile

    Anthony WileThe Washington Post published an interesting editorial yesterday, entitled “What kind of president would Obama be in second term?” I have my own thoughts, but let’s take a quick look at this article, which provides us with a serious, even scholarly, set of questions and prognostications.

    At the end of this editorial, I’ll provide an action point that people can take advantage of regarding the election. But first, we’ll review how Obama and his challenger, Mitt Romney, might act if in power over the next four years. The Post article is a great jumping-off place.

    The article begins by pointing out that even if people think they know who Barack Obama is and what he stands for, the big question remains, “How would the experience of his first term inform and shape a second?”

    We also learn that Obama seems on his way to answer this question as he has a slight lead, according to most polls. Mitt Romney has continued to fight hard but I agree that Obama is likely to win. He is obviously the establishment candidate and the power elite that apparently placed him in office doesn’t want him to leave with his job half done.

    Now that the article has set the stage, there are still more questions to ask. Here, from the article:

    Would he become what he promised in 2008 but was not in his first term, a leader with the talents to guide a divided political system to a consensus on the country’s most intractable problems?

    Would the scars from a series of bitter fights with Republicans make him more or less inclined to make compromises he might have made in his first term?

    What would animate him in a second term?

    What would he pursue for his legacy?

    We learn that Obama has “expressed confidence that, as a newly reelected president, he could produce the grand bargain with congressional Republicans on a plan to deal with the federal deficit that he could not reach in the summer of 2011.” Another priority will be immigration reform, which not even President George W. Bush was able to accomplish.

    Neither the “grand bargain” nor immigration reform were much discussed by Obama during the campaign. In fact, the Post confides, Obama, like Romney, “has a five-point plan.” It includes: more jobs, expanding domestic energy, adding money for education and training, reducing the US war budget and redirecting the US infrastructure.

    It is explained that these sorts of goals – especially the rarely stated goals of immigration reform and deficit reduction – are part of what his advisers call “Obama’s political DNA.” In other words, Obama is a compromiser and a reasonable man and will govern even more in this style in his next term.

    The article follows up this observation with a portrayal of Republicans as disputing this perspective. For Republicans, Obama is an “ideologically driven, big-government liberal whose ambitions all point left, and they think that a second term would bring more.”

    It will be up to Obama to define how he will work with the Republicans if he wins again. Will it be a repeat of the first four years, a term that was surely steeped in acrimony?

    Here, there is some good news amidst the bad, from the Post’s perspective. While running a surprisingly “hard-edged” campaign, Hurricane Sandy gave the incumbent a chance to make a plea for more cooperation between the two parties.

    In fact, we learn, “New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R), who has been one of the president’s harshest critics, has become Obama’s protector, offering praise for the way he has responded to the storm.”

    The Post ends on a doubtful note. It is impossible to ascertain how Obama will act during a second term but one thing is certain: If he wins, “he will have a second chance to show what he is all about.”

    You can see from this recitation that the Post editorial writer is fairly undecided about how Obama will perform during a second term. I am not nearly so uncertain. In fact, I will go so far as to say I can predict how BOTH candidates will react were they to win (or regain) the White House. Let us consider the similarities between them, as follows:

    •Both are pro-foreign interventionist policy
    •Both cater to the military-industrial complex
    •Both are in the employ of the international banking cartel
    •Both will expand government
    •Both will expand anti-liberty/freedom laws
    •Both will support a war on Internet freedom
    •Both will continue the war on drugs
    •Both will continue to support regulatory growth
    •Both will support FATCA and alienate US Marts
    •Both will continue current tax structure
    •Both will support bailouts for corporate elite
    •Both will suppress militarily any anti-government voices

    In practice, citizens of the US will become angrier, poorer and less secure in their privacy and property. Even when it comes to precious metals, the end result will be similar.

    If Romney wins by some chance, gold and silver will go down for a little bit based on the misapprehension that Romney is more fiscally conservative than Obama. Once Romney’s performance has shown he is just as irresponsible – mad – as Obama, gold and silver will continue their rise. If Obama wins, gold and silver will discard a momentary dip and probably simply continue the upward trajectory of the past decade.

    It is really too bad that these ended up being the US’s two main choices. But really, one has to admit that even were someone like constitutionalist Congressman Ron Paul to have been elected, the structure of Leviathan would be resistant to any change.

    The US is basically run by a larger power elite based not just in the US but also in the City of London, the Vatican and Tel Aviv. In fact, the country and its wars are part of a larger, quickening elite effort to create world government.

    And so, again, nothing will change. The US will continue to be a morally, spiritually and financially bankrupt entity – one spiraling down toward the bottom of a slide greased with fiat money and militarism promoted by powerful entities intent on further degrading what is left of US exceptionalism.

    Action point: ——– Those who want to make a difference via the election process would do well to avoid voting and encourage others to do the same. The first step to taking back whatever is still good in the “US” is to withdraw one’s approval of what’s now taking place.


    6th November 2012 at 7:37 pm

  69. ecliptix543 says:

    Flash, please elaborate the ballistic advantages of the 6.8SPC vs 5.56 at ranges in excess of 300 yards. I’d love to hear all about that, far more so than any of the Imperial Anointing Ceremony currently underway. Besides, the info might be relevant to the next four years.


    6th November 2012 at 7:42 pm

  70. flash says:

    Destin , I hope you wife, girlfriend/ crack whore hookeryou hired likes wearing a burqua, because that’s what she’ll be wearing if Obama is re-elected.

    And, if you’re OK with the Constitution being replaced by Sharia law and being labeled a second class dingleberry because you don’t kneel towards Mecca five times a day, then go ahead and cast you vote to allow the Kenyan Muslim to assrape our great nation.

    You had a choice and you blew it. May Mohamed have mercy on your sphincter.



    6th November 2012 at 7:43 pm

  71. flash says:

    ecliptix543 , haven’t clue or a need for a 6.8 SPC. If I see one laying around on the battlefield after third party curs elect Obama ,again after Ob am declares war on Christians I doubt I’d pick it up.

    I’d wanna be totin’ something that shoots what everyone else is shooting, i.e. miltiray/police force.

    and nothing else.


    6th November 2012 at 7:48 pm

  72. flash says:

    Electoral votes.

    Obamey – 3

    Romeny – 33

    I’m going to new Jersey shores!


    6th November 2012 at 7:52 pm

  73. flash says:

    that’s Romney @ 24.
    I guess I got excited about going to NJ.


    6th November 2012 at 7:53 pm

  74. flash says:

    Damn , I was right the first time.

    Romney is @ 33.

    Damn, two dark star motel , here i come.


    6th November 2012 at 7:55 pm

  75. Wyoming Mike says:

    Flash gots his magic underwear on!


    6th November 2012 at 7:55 pm

  76. flash says:

    WM, I’m rocking my mighty mormon tighties.
    We need HZK live blogging Obamey ass whooping


    6th November 2012 at 7:59 pm

  77. ecliptix543 says:

    Withdrawal of Consent is the only way to win.


    6th November 2012 at 8:01 pm

  78. ecliptix543 says:

    Flash, I also have no use for 6.8. I think most people that are at all serious about the issue of owning such weapons also realise the advantages of operating only the most common calibers. 5.56, 7.62×39, 7.62×51, 9mm, .45ACP, and the always-useful .22LR. Pick and choose from those, plus a decent 12ga, and then move to the other preps. 6.8 was a boutique distraction from start to finish.. pointless and expensive. Same goes for .300AAC.


    6th November 2012 at 8:08 pm

  79. Hollow man says:

    You will not have any guns very soon. Or coal.


    6th November 2012 at 8:12 pm

  80. Eddie says:

    Don’t overlook .308. There is much better availability of .308 than 30-06 anymore.

    My Nazi Mauser .308 custom with Shilen barrel and Timney trigger is a great shooter.

    At 300 yards, the glass you’re looking through is just as important as your gun, unless you have very exceptional vision. I like Leupold.

    I don’t think availability of ammo is quite such a big deal for a side arm personally. How many times do you think you’re going to go into battle with a pistol? I’m shooting a CZ52 in the 7.62×25 Tokarev. It’s pretty cheap, and it has nice ballistics.


    6th November 2012 at 8:18 pm

  81. flash says:

    ecliptix543 , my nephew just had a sweet deal on a 7mm with scope, but I passed because the ammo was super expensive and sometimes unavailable.

    I’m no trick shooter or ballistics buff , so I’ll stick to the common as dirt calibers.
    I’ve never had a problem hitting what I aim at.

    BTW, and i say this with the utmost confidence.There has been more deer killed in my area by rednecks wielding .22 cals a la’ 10/22 than any other caliber available.


    6th November 2012 at 8:23 pm

  82. flash says:

    Eddie, .
    308’s a good choice.You can shoot 7.62 from a .308 rifle , but I’ve heard that .308’s are too hot to fire from a 7.62.
    And same with 5.56 and .223.


    6th November 2012 at 8:29 pm

  83. ecliptix543 says:

    Flash, I believe if you research it, you’ll find that more people are killed every year with .22 than any other caliber as well. I guess people just look at the tiny little bullets and think they’re the same as a pellet gun or something… maroons.

    *.308 is usually interchangeable into 7.62×51 chambered rifles. ALWAYS check first with your specific rifle, of course, but most anything set up for the NATO-spec 7.62 will shoot .308. Similar to 5.56 will eat .223 all day long, but you’ll risk a minor explosion and potential of a slight death or two by running 5.56 in a .223.*


    6th November 2012 at 8:34 pm

  84. ecliptix543 says:

    Eddie, the disadvantage I see with unusual calibers like Tokarev’s is that the bullets are far more easily identifiable, forensicly speaking. Really common shit is much, much more difficult to isolate. Just say in’….


    6th November 2012 at 8:39 pm

  85. flash says:

    ecliptix543 , I’ve fired thousands of 5.56 FMJ rounds though a .223 Ruger ranch rifle with no problem so far.
    I don’t own a .308 or a 7.62 so Ib can’t attest to that , but 5.56 no problem here.


    6th November 2012 at 8:39 pm

  86. harry p. says:

    Common ammo is the way to go, i love the way the fn five seven and ps90 shoot (and that they shoot the same round)but the 5.7 is a pain unless u do ur own loads.


    6th November 2012 at 8:41 pm

  87. harry p. says:

    Common ammo is the way to go, i love the way the fn five seven and ps90 shoot (and that they shoot the same round)but the 5.7 is a pain unless u do ur own loads.


    6th November 2012 at 8:41 pm

  88. flash says:

    ecliptix543 , dead on about the .22 cal.
    A thirty round clip in a 10/22 will lay down a curtain of lead.
    And know of a few deer dropped where they stood by a well placed head shot , fired from a .22 cal pistol.


    6th November 2012 at 8:41 pm

  89. jaycee says:

    HP , the FN five seven is a damn fine pistol.i almost bought one last year , but backed down…still interested though.


    6th November 2012 at 8:45 pm

  90. flash says:

    sorry, jaycee, that last post was me.


    6th November 2012 at 8:46 pm

  91. harry p. says:

    308 is becoming more and more common.
    I have only fired 2 mags worth thru a 5-7, liked it, easier to control than my m9.
    But the ps90 is great, so comfy and natural. Fired atleast 500 rds theu a buddies but cant bring myself to spend that much while adding another caliber to the stable. My buddy can get away with it, single, no kids and a dillon loader.


    6th November 2012 at 9:00 pm

  92. youcanthavemyglock says:

    5.7? yeah have fun paying 1$ per round at a minimum, that’s ridiculous. and just because you fired 5.56 in ur .223 rifle doesn’t mean its safe, i’d always consult with manufacturer before doing it.


    6th November 2012 at 9:28 pm

  93. AKAnon says:

    Ruger Mini-14, although technically considered .223, is rated from the factory to function safely and reliably w/ 5.56. Some other .223s cannot handle 5.56 safely. .308 and 7.62×51 are dimensionally identical, and safe to fire interchangeably, EXCEPT that gas operated semi-autos (like M1-A, M-1 Garand in .308) should not use commercial ammo unless loaded for gas guns (Federal makes a M1-A load. Also a 30-06 Garand load). 150 grain is probably OK, heavier bullets will typically be loaded with too slow a powder and although peak pressure will be OK, you’ll have too much pressure at the gas port and bend your op rod. Hand loads using appropriate powders can allow heavier bullets, but with reduced performance. Adjustable gas guns like FN-FAL, can use the heavier bullet factory loads if you adjust the port down. Re 30-06 Garands, same thing about commercial ammo-keep it at 150 grains, or 168 gr match loads unless you reload.


    6th November 2012 at 9:32 pm

  94. ecliptix543 says:

    AKAnon – Nice write-up on the .308 vs 7.62×51 situation, thanks. I haven’t owned one or had a chance to play with one on a range, so I have no firsthand experience. If I can ever manage to score a decent paying job and/or hit the lottery, a brand new Springfield M1A is next on my acquisitions list. Talk about fucking expensive… too rich for my current circumstances.

    How about the Kel-Tec PMR30? A semi-auto pistol, 30+1 capacity of .22WMR… I could foresee a shitload of fun times with that, and still relatively cheap to feed. I’ve become something of a fan of the ol’ .22 Mag in the past couple of years. Good performance out to 150, my Savage can even put up 1.5 to 2″ groups at 225 with cheap FMJ’s – although I don’t know how much ass it still has that far out of course. 1/2″ groups at 100 or less even with a hot barrel also inspires confidence for me – shot placement can always make up for a sub-caliber round in a pinch.


    6th November 2012 at 10:35 pm

  95. AKAnon says:

    .308/7.62 is a very versatile caliber. Not quite as versatile as 30-06 for heavy bullets. An ’06 bolt rifle can handle from 110 grain varmint loads to 220 grains, although I see little point in over 180 or 190 grain loads. I use 165 or 180 for moose and bear. .308 can be loaded w/ 180 grain bullets, but you lose 200 fps or more compared to ’06. But 7.62 ammo comes in many interesting flavors, including military surplus. M1-A is, imo, an excellent choice for a battle rifle, and still widely used in high-power competition, although AR-15 is more common. But as noted above, you need to watch the loads. FYI-you can get a used M-1 Garand in 30-06 from the Civilian Marksmanship Program for about $600 but beware-you will need to provide personal info. Rules also require proof of membership in an approved club and participation in a sanctioned match.

    I have never been too big a fan of 22 WMR-not that much performance improvement over high performance 22 LR. In a short barrel pistol, I doubt the improvement is measurable, but in a rifle, 22 WMR does step it up a bit. But if I need more than 22LR, personally I go to a center-fire. If you don’t reload, maybe 22 WMR fills a significant niche. Similarly, I was never a big fan of 30 carbine (a great caliber, I should think, for hunting dog-sized critters. But I don’t hunt dogs). But it is a fun round to shoot, and from a carbine, certainly more effective than most any handgun cartridge. As originally conceived, as an alternative to a sidearm (1911) for the non-infantry GI, it is a good choice for home or short-range vehicle defence. But it doesn’t reach out too far-maybe 150 yards or so. I shoot .308 and 30-06 bolt guns to 1,000 yards.


    6th November 2012 at 11:18 pm

  96. Idaho says:

    im sorry but obama is a coward and because he let the ambassador die when he couldve saved him by sending help that was less than an hour away


    6th November 2012 at 11:24 pm

  97. AKAnon says:

    Fox News just called the election for BO. Forget I said anything about guns-I know nothing, nothing. (In my best Sergeant Schultz voice)


    6th November 2012 at 11:25 pm

  98. AKAnon says:

    Idaho-Don’t be sorry. Be angry.


    6th November 2012 at 11:29 pm

  99. Zarathustra says:

    As much as I detest Obama, I just can’t help but smile. Tonight is Ron Paul’s revenge. The lesson for the gop that they will not learn, is that they need us. They have to change or they won’t win the presidency for many years.


    6th November 2012 at 11:33 pm

  100. Llpoh says:

    This is the first time, but not the last, that I say I told you so. Smokey and I called this 2 years ago. The Free Shit Army plus all of the drones and the SSDI and the unionists plus the people of color plus the students on government loans, etc etc etc are just too numerous.

    And compounding the problem is that these groups hate anyone actually earning their keep – those are the rich, and it cannot be allowed for them to be affluent – they must pay their fair share. Their fair share is they must forfeit it all.

    May God have mercy on the US, as there is nothing left that I recognize.


    6th November 2012 at 11:42 pm

  101. sensetti says:

    Hat tip to Llpoh for being right…….again…
    Would someone please tell me what going over the physical cliff will mean to us all, cause we goin over, gridlock for four more years.
    Scratch the gridlock, Obongo will govern by Executive Order.
    Good night America


    7th November 2012 at 12:03 am

  102. ASIG says:

    The decline in our standard of living will accelerate in the next 4 years. Of that I am certain.


    7th November 2012 at 12:30 am

  103. [email protected] says:

    This is thevworst possible outcome. A bitterly divided nation going right off the fiscal cliff led by a psychopathic narcissist like Obama.

    I predict a massive stock market crash, gold-silver to spike and further downgrades in our credit rating. It will be such a wonderful day when the dollar crashes.

    Well, this is The End of America as a great place of liberty, freedom and opportunity. I weep for my children’s future, for what could have been but is lost forever. We had our chance to choose self reliance, personal responsibility and self empowerment but it seems the mass of the FSA was too great and the allure of a life of handouts and dependence too strong.

    Forward to the abyss. Abandon all hope


    7th November 2012 at 12:45 am

  104. SSS says:

    Just got up from a nap. Damn, I feel refreshed and ready to go.

    I’m guessing John McCain will win, but it’s gonna be really close.


    7th November 2012 at 12:56 am

  105. [email protected] says:

    Fot we are about to enter a Hell of our own making.

    A Hell not of firecand brimstone but a Hell of being slowly suffocated by the weight of increasing taxes ot bled to death by the cuts of a million laws and regulations.

    Obama and his minions are now unleashed to destroy our energy industry, healthcare and leave us vulnerable to our enemies.

    Elections have consequences and the destruction of our country is now inevitable.

    Wel, it wasca great ride while it lasted. I will continue to prep but I doubt I will survive what is coming.

    God bless and good night.


    7th November 2012 at 12:56 am

  106. BUCKHED says:

    Eclip…get the FN 5.7…30 round mags are available right now….a great pistol in my opinion !


    7th November 2012 at 1:08 am

  107. SSS says:

    “Obama and his minions are now unleashed to destroy our energy industry, healthcare and leave us vulnerable to our enemies.”

    Look on the bright side, Doc. Diversity survived and remains our future beacon of hope.


    7th November 2012 at 1:14 am

  108. BUCKHED says:

    Eddie…Zeiss my friend..the best optics .


    7th November 2012 at 1:16 am

  109. AKAnon says:

    Hope-Bullshit-you will survive. You are better prepped than 99%+ of the folks, and in a better location than 95%+. And you are far, far smarter than 99%. I give you great odds surviving the impending doom. God bless & good night to you too.


    7th November 2012 at 1:22 am

  110. llpoh says:

    I have begun to explore my options. I do not believe I am able to continue to absorb the onslaught. The country does not respect what I, as a business owner, do. In fact, it, and many of its people, despises me for it. After all of my despicable kind and I abandon ship, there will be no need to demand of me my fair share. I will live off my capital. Fuck it.


    7th November 2012 at 1:31 am

  111. AKAnon says:

    llpoh-I can appreciate your position. It must be frustrating to continually be kicked for doing the right thing. I wouldn’t blame you one bit if you take your whistle and go home (wherever you might decide that to be in the future). But please don’t be hasty. I know you are not, else you would have already pulled the plug.


    7th November 2012 at 1:38 am

  112. sangell says:

    If you are up, listen to a ‘white rapper’ circa 1966. Administrator ought to see if the 4th turning wasn’t predicted here.


    7th November 2012 at 1:52 am

  113. Zarathustra says:

    Look at the bright side. John Bolton won’t be Secretary of State, and Sheldon Adelson wasted millions of his fortune on a couple of losers.


    7th November 2012 at 1:53 am

  114. FT says:

    Well, it appears I was overly optimistic about Gary Johnson’s vote totals, but he still became the first Libertarian candidate to clear 1 million votes. 1,009,000 and counting. Something to build on if we somehow make it to another election in 4 years.


    7th November 2012 at 1:57 am

  115. ThePessimisticChemist says:

    Slightly off topic:

    You guys started talking guns, and one of you advised me to try out a Smith and Wesson M&P, but I’m having difficulty recalling exact model and caliber.

    I was thinking this:

    9mm, 17+1 clip


    7th November 2012 at 1:59 am

  116. ThePessimisticChemist says:

    Also, any shotgun advice? Don’t want to shoot birds/clays, just a SHTF gun.


    7th November 2012 at 2:05 am

  117. Reverse Engineer says:

    “This is thevworst possible outcome. A bitterly divided nation going right off the fiscal cliff led by a psychopathic narcissist like Obama.

    I predict a massive stock market crash, gold-silver to spike and further downgrades in our credit rating. It will be such a wonderful day when the dollar crashes.

    Well, this is The End of America as a great place of liberty, freedom and opportunity. I weep for my children’s future, for what could have been but is lost forever. We had our chance to choose self reliance, personal responsibility and self empowerment but it seems the mass of the FSA was too great and the allure of a life of handouts and dependence too strong.

    Forward to the abyss. Abandon all hope”-HZK

    I beat you to Abandoning All Hope by 4 years EZ. 🙂

    Of course though, Amerika has be been a Fascist State from the very beginning, and we have never had any chance as long as the Illuminati control the Military and the Monetary system.

    On the Upside, I made a small fortune in Ammo taking bets from the Low Hanging Fruit at the the Gun Club where just about everyone was betting on Rmoney. 🙂 I’ll be taking Target Practice for Free for at least the next 4 years. I also put my Barret up against a Regressive Conservatard’s AR-15 converted to Full Auto and two cases of Ammo, sterb126.gif

    A little Ray of Sunshine on an otherwise Gloomy Day. [IMG][/IMG] LOL.



    7th November 2012 at 2:17 am

  118. sangell says:

    TPC, this is ALL you need but they won’t let you buy it!


    7th November 2012 at 2:19 am

  119. ThePessimisticChemist says:

    Haha I knew what it was before it even loaded. The AA12 is a sexy piece of hardware, but I’m a simple fellow, and a pump action would be sufficient for me!


    7th November 2012 at 2:21 am

  120. crazyivan says:

    The beauty of a double barrell shotgun is that the act of pointing it in a certain direction may relieve you of the neccesity of having to pull the trigger.


    7th November 2012 at 2:21 am

  121. sangell says:


    You are predictable and probably right but my guess is the GOP Congress will dig in its heels and make the Democrats operate under the debt ceiling. That means Obama has to submit a budget base upon current revenues and expenditures and decide where the cuts take place.

    That is going to be positive for the dollar and thus gold is in trouble and believe me as an owner of gold and coal miners I’be hurting! a


    7th November 2012 at 2:33 am

  122. AKAnon says:

    Sangell-Zappa kicks ass. An intellectual hippie, who also rocks very hard. RIP.


    7th November 2012 at 2:53 am

  123. AKAnon says:

    RE-Does your betting success make you a profiteer? I.e., Pigman? Maybe you should redistribute your winnings. Just askin’.


    7th November 2012 at 2:56 am

  124. Johnson's Johnson says:

    For all you jerk-offs that voted for Johnson – good work. Enjoy 4 more years of a socialist Dear Leader.


    7th November 2012 at 4:30 am

  125. Administrator says:

    Johnson’s Johnson won’t get his war with Iran as quickly as he wanted. Boo Hoo.

    You neo-con dickheads deserve each other. Go worship at your church of Dick Cheney.


    7th November 2012 at 8:00 am

  126. Administrator says:

    I think Stan wins the trip to Staten Island. Please contact Barack Hussein Obama to collect your prize.


    7th November 2012 at 8:28 am

  127. Zarathustra says:

    JJ, fuck all of you who wasted your vote on Romney.


    7th November 2012 at 5:55 am

  128. flash says:

    The Ron Paul revolution serves up a dish of cold crow revenge to the GOP.

    The GOP is finished.. kaput. Put a boot in their phony conservative ass, they’ve shit all over US and need to be kicked it in the cold.

    The rotten, shitty crack licking. mangy mongrels got exactly what they deserved .

    Now, by God, those that seek the pursuit of liberty , life and property can feel free to exit the utterly useless and incorrigible Republican party and found a party for those that believe in the rule of law and the protection individual liberty at all cost.

    Dedicated to Hope.You will survive.


    7th November 2012 at 6:01 am

  129. Reverse Engineer says:

    “RE-Does your betting success make you a profiteer? I.e., Pigman? Maybe you should redistribute your winnings. Just askin’.”-AKanon

    As Colma often notes, I got Pigman Genes. 😉

    I got no problem whatosever divesting Regressive Conservatards of their Hardware in a bet. 😀

    You can’t Save Everyone AK, you can only Save As Many As You Can. Some folks really NEED a quick trip to the Great Beyond. I am just evening up the odds here for a few people in my neighborhood and redistributing the hardware some. Hell, I can’t shoot all the guns I own, I gotta hand them off to some other trigger fingers. Trick here is to divest the dummies of their guns and redistribute to some decent people. 🙂

    I never said I would Duck. I said I would Pull a Gun when somebody else puls a Knife on me. Call it “Profiteering” if you like. I call it PAYBACK. 😀



    7th November 2012 at 6:13 am

  130. flash says:

    I think it noteworthy that all the Yankee states swung for Obama.

    LOL…and the Lincolnites call us hicks?


    Damn FSA, cock choking, slut voting , bedwetting , booger eating Yankees.

    How ya’ll like your Union now?


    7th November 2012 at 6:28 am

  131. John A says:

    I voted for Romney last week because I felt it was my only option to remove the Soetoro from office. That said, I had made numerous campaign contributions to Ron Paul in 2012 hoping that he would be on the ballot in 2012 as a Republican. That did not happen. Gov Romney could have chosen Ron Paul as a VP running mate but he apparently followed the advice of several neocon cheesedicks and, of course, the sleazy Wall Street banksters that contributed so much to his campaign. Too bad, Mitt. You made a bad choice.

    After I saw that the GOP lost last night, the only solace I took to bed with me was that those that voted for Team Soetoro/Biden (and made his re-election possible) will suffer just as much as I will during the next four years. Congratulations to the liberal “progressives” and FSA idiots out there that voted for the continuation of the communist state. You voted for “it”, and you will get “it” nice and hard just like the rest of us who were wise enough to vote otherwise.

    I will never give up on my country. I will never abandon the U.S. Constitution. I will always support states’ rights. I will do everything in my power over the next four years to discredit and starve the socialist beast that sits in my front yard.


    7th November 2012 at 8:59 am

  132. youcanthavemyglock says:

    TPC, for what purpose do you want a handgun? what size are ur hands, are u left or right handed?
    As far as shotguns, just get a Remington or Mossberg pump action in 12/20 gauge and you’re set. I also like Ithaca self defense shotgun.


    7th November 2012 at 9:01 am

  133. FT says:

    Do the math in Florida, New Mexico, Ohio, anywhere you wish—-even if every single Gary Johnson vote would have gone to Romney, he didn’t cost Mitt the election.

    Bottom line, if anyone wants to be mad about this result, be mad at the Republican party that turned away Paul and Johnson.


    7th November 2012 at 10:09 am

  134. flash says:

    Full disclosure.I didn’t waste my time on voting for either turd sandwich or douchebag .
    That said, what this election proves is that the Republican party is absolutely worthless as a national political representative of conservative values and will be irrelevant in future national elections as well.

    I did heat dough boy Newtie shooting off his pie hole this morning,saying that the Repthugs have got to attract the Hispanic , Black and Slut vote before it can ever been a national contender again.
    Translation more free shit from the prog-tard figures.


    7th November 2012 at 1:50 pm

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