LLPOH and Smokey Sez: We Told You So, Bitchez!

Two years ago, The Great Smokey and I told y’all that Obama would win. We were hooted at and derided. We of course won those battles, but were somewhat stunned that so few of the smart folks on TBP could read the tea leaves. This stupidity continued unabated right up until the instant of the election – many otherwise very smart folks (come on out and issue the requisite mea culpas, y’all) were calling the election for Romney in spite of all evidence to the contrary.

So, just how did Smokey and I know this would happen? Well, first and foremost, we are mental giants, and have the ability to synthesize complex issues down and reach accurate conclusions. But just so you know, here are some of the basic issues that lead us to our position:

– Blacks account for 12% of the population, and 99.99% would vote for Obama. The remainder – 0.01 per cent – hit the wrong button.

– Hispanics would vote in large numbers in favour of Obama, given the general position of the Republicans to pitch their countrymen out of the country, and to otherwise make their lives difficult. In fact, they turned out in record numbers and voted around 80% for Obama

– The Free Shit Army would vote en masse for Obama – they include 1 and 2 above, plus all of the other hangers on. This Army includes those on SSDI and those that are fully SS dependent, those on unemployment, those on Food Stamps, etc.

– Government drones and unionists (an overlapping group) would vote en masse for Obama

– Women would vote for Obama, given the Republicans penchant for putting up candidates that were radically far right and vocally anti-abortion, and who wanted to see Rowe v Wade overturned. This was a loser.

– The Republicans would surely field candidates who were total idiots. And indeed they did, starting with Romney, and working their way down to the far-right nutjobs who were incapable of keeping their mouths shut. Their comments about rape, etc, went down like lead balloons. We knew the Republics would commit errors one after the other – selecting a presidential candidate that would not release his tax returns, etc etc etc. Ad nauseum examples exist.

– The Republicans were unable to cease their neocon bullshit, and so could not position themselves for centrist votes on this issue.

– We knew the MSM would seize on every mistake and every ridiculous comment and blow it out of all proportion – and they did. This was a huge help to Obama.

So, being great thinkers, Smokey and I looked at these things, and determined Obama would win, despite being arguably the worst president in US history. In hindsight, those that argued against us must be saying, “damn, it really was easy to see. How could I have been such an idiot?”.

And here is my forward prediction: the Republicans will likely be able to hold onto Congress for the full four years (if they lose Congress, watch Obama go nuts before he exits stage left, leaving behind a ruins of monumental proportion). I expect serious degeneration to the economic position of the country over the next 4 years, and I expect to see the Free Shit Army grow unabated. I expect to see the demographics continue to shift in favour of the Democrats – especially an increase in Hispanics, who are now dyed in the wool Democrats. I expect to see capital pour out of the country, and to see laws implemented to try to keep it in the US, which in itself will have catastrophic results (who will invest here if they money is effectively frozen?). I expect to see the very rich abandon ship at every opportunity. I expect to see small businesses continue to fold by the millions. I expect to see unemployment rise given the planned tax hikes and the flight of capital and the capitulation of the “rich”. I expect to see the US implement the highest tax rates in the world. I expect to see the “rich” of California take flight to avoid the impact of proposition 30. I expect the stock market to fall markedly as capital flees, and I see inflation accelerating.

And most of all, unless the Republicans can move severely to the center and can come up with candidates that overwhelmingly are more to the center, I expect to see the Democrats continue to win the presidency, with Hillary Clinton most likely to be the next president.

Don’t like these predictions? Me either. I do not predict what I want to see, but rather I predict what I expect to see, based on the information that is out there if one but looks around. Y’all need to take off the blinders when making predictions. Wanting is not the same thing as getting.

Smokey, wherever you are, we were right. I know it is no surprise to you. I drank a toast to you last night, and wish you well. You and I can bask in the knowledge that …..

WE WERE RIGHT, BITCHEZ!

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Llpoh
Llpoh
November 7, 2012 11:11 pm

Dave – got that right! I think he still owes Admin a kiss to his bare ass during on the field during Super Bowl half-time!

Ron
Ron
November 7, 2012 11:32 pm

Really you had to think that hard about it? Obama sucks and Romney seemed like the right choice.So i knew Obama would win.
Ron Paul was really the best choice and how many votes did he get? So its pick the complete opposite than what you think should happen if people are awake and think a little bit.

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
November 8, 2012 12:45 am

If I recall, wasn’t the Gangritch often mentioned by the Grand Master Internet Blaster?

Llpoh
Llpoh
November 8, 2012 1:34 am

Smokey indeed loved the Newt. Think it was his fondness for snatch the sway Smokey his way.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
November 8, 2012 1:52 am

I can”t keep track of yesterday’s post, much less those of a year ago but I am pretty certain I pegged Romney as a loser a long time ago.

Fact. Until the GoP kicks the neocons back to the dem party where they belong and embrace the liberty movement, it will never win a national election. They hate us for that, but it’s true. There simply aren’t enough christian zionist whackjobs out there. So Solly.

chiefdarkcloud
chiefdarkcloud
November 8, 2012 2:49 am

I am waiting for the locusts and pestilence

flash
flash
November 8, 2012 7:10 am

Loopy did you say Repugs, should move to center ? Would that be from the left leaning right to center hard left , because that’s political sphere into which the booger eating, bed wetting , mouth breathing pug party maroons are advocating the party of dullards head.

There is and will be no party for productive, conservative, testosterone endowed , liberty loving , rule of law believing white males until we the remnant demand
it.

Here’s the Gangstench advocating the Repugs out prog-tard the original prog-tards.There is no party for white men and as far as I know hasn’t been since the Democrat party of 1861.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/11/the-twilight-of-the-gop-establishment-who-will-save-republicans-now/264941/
The Twilight of the GOP Establishment: Who Will Save Republicans, Now?
By David Rohde

Nov 7 2012, 6:45 PM ET

Newt Gingrich nailed it: “If you’re not going to be competitive with Latinos, with African-Americans, with Native Americans, with Asian-Americans, you’re not going to be a successful party.”

While Karl Rove questioned whether Obama had, in fact, won Ohio, Juan Williams and Brit Hume courageously admitted the party had lost touch with a changing nation. They embraced exit polls showing that the surge in Latino, black, female and young voters that aided Obama in 2008 was a permanent demographic change, not a one-time event.

“We’re looking at a new kind of politics,” Williams said.

Hume stood tall as well.

“The demographic factors that Juan referred to are absolutely real,” he said.

And this morning Newt Gingrich, of all people, issued a bold mea culpa.

“We have to recognize that if you’re not going to be competitive with Latinos, with
African-Americans, with Native Americans, with Asian-Americans,” Gingrich said on CBS, “you’re not going to be a successful party.”

All of these officials should be applauded. I disagree with them in many ways politically. I also question whether this is the latest of many political pivots for Gingrich. But I praise and respect them for accepting the basic dynamics of the race. Publicly admitting you were wrong is never easy.

flash
flash
November 8, 2012 8:02 am

Yes, replacing the stable American /Western values with those of a barbarian slut breeding culture have produced such economic miracles and stable growth imbued by pure family values that we must have more.
And the clarion call goes out for the Repugs to retain power by denouncing the smidgeon of principle they might hold dear in order to attract the feeding frenzy vote of the FSA. Latinos , Blacks and Sluts …the future of US has never been rosier…get a baby , get a check, and get back in line for more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFHJ41ktt3Q

LEVIATHAN GOVERNMENT
The coming age of austerity
Pat Buchanan on federal spending: ‘There is nothing left in the till to do big things’

by Patrick J. Buchanan

Are the good times really over for good?” asked Merle Haggard in his 1982 lament.

Then, the good times weren’t over. In fact, they were coming back, with the Reagan recovery, the renewal of the American spirit and the end of a Cold War that had consumed so much of our lives.

Yet whoever wins today, it is hard to be sanguine about the future.

The demographic and economic realities do not permit it.

Consider. Between 1946 and 1964, 79 million babies were born – the largest, best-educated and most successful generation in our history. Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, both born in 1946, were in that first class of baby boomers.

The problem.

Assume that 75 million of these 79 million boomers survive to age 66. This means that from this year through 2030, an average of nearly 4 million boomers will be retiring every year. This translates into some 11,000 boomers becoming eligible for Medicare and Social Security every single day for the next 18 years.

Add in immigrants in that same age category and the fact that baby boomers live longer than the Greatest Generation or Silent Generation seniors, and you have an immense and unavoidable increase coming in expenditures for our largest entitlement programs.

Benefits will have to be curbed or cut and payroll taxes will have to rise, especially for Medicare, to make good on our promises to seniors.

As for the rest of our federal budget of nearly $4 trillion, we have run four consecutive deficits of over $1 trillion. To bring that budget to balance, freezes would have to be imposed and cuts made in spending for defense and other social programs.

From California to Wisconsin to New York, we see the process at work at the state level. Government salaries are frozen, government payrolls are cut, government pensions and programs are scaled back.

California and Illinois are on the precipice of default. Cities like Detroit, Birmingham, Stockton and San Bernardino are already there.

As for national defense, how long can we afford to spend more than the 10 other top nations combined? How long can we continue to defend scores of nations half a world away? How many more trillion-dollar wars like Iraq and Afghanistan can we fight on borrowed money?

Moreover, the day of the great national enterprises is over.

FDR had his New Deal and World War II, Ike his federal highway system, Kennedy his space program, LBJ his Great Society, Reagan his military buildup and tax cuts, Bush his two wars and tax cuts, Obama his Obamacare.

But there is nothing left in the till to do big things. One sees only deficits and debt all the way to the horizon.

Europe has arrived at where we are headed. In the south of the old continent – Spain, Italy and Greece – the new austerity has begun to imperil the social order. In the north, the disposition to be taxed to pay for other nations’ social safety nets is disappearing.

With government in the U.S. at all levels consuming 40 percent of gross domestic product, and taxes 30 percent, taxes will have to rise and government spending be controlled or cut. The alternative is to destroy the debt by depreciating the dollars in which it is denominated – i.e., by Fed-induced inflation.

But you can only rob your creditors once. After that, they never trust you again.

There is another social development rarely discussed.

The workers who are replacing retiring baby boomers in the labor force are increasingly minorities.

Black folks and Hispanics alone account now for 30 percent of the population – and rising rapidly.

Yet these two minorities have high-school dropout rates of up to 50 percent in many cities, and many who do graduate have math, reading and science scores at seventh-, eighth- and ninth-grade levels.

Can their contributions to an advanced economy be as great as were those of baby boomers of the ’60s and ’70s, whose SAT scores were among the highest we ever recorded? U.S. scores in global competition have been plummeting toward Third World levels.

Everyone talks about how we are going to raise test scores. But, despite record and rising investments in education per student, no one in decades has found a way to do this consistently.

Moreover, while boomers were almost all born into families where mother and father were married and living together, Hispanics have a 53 percent illegitimacy rate, African-Americans a 73 percent rate.

Among the white poor and working class, the illegitimacy rate is now 40 percent – almost twice as high as it was in black America when Pat Moynihan wrote his 1965 report on the crisis of the black family.

And between the illegitimacy rate and the drug-use rate, dropout rate, crime rate and incarceration rate, the correlation is absolute.

Some of us are often accused of always “crying wolf.”

But it is worth noting that one day the wolf came.

flash
flash
November 8, 2012 8:04 am
Hollow man
Hollow man
November 8, 2012 8:22 am

Dang it! could not beat it

flash
flash
November 8, 2012 8:25 am

This map about say’s it all. The USA is now ruled by popular vote of delusional big Shitty dwellers i.e FSA .

Here’s a thought. If the CSA had prevailed to remain independent of the Thugacrcy in 1865 , the disenfranchised Unionist might possible have an a route of escape to avoid the impending tyranny about to crawl up our ass and feed on the vital organs and soft tissue left sustaining this anemic Republic.
Bet your unlucky stars and brutally striped ass that Obama would never have been elected president of the Confederate States of America.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufEiLuACfr0

http://www.theatlanticcities.com/politics/2012/11/urban-electorate-why-republicans-cant-afford-concede-city-vote-ever-again/3829/
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GJH
GJH
November 8, 2012 10:48 am

R’s intentionally threw the last two elections, putting up obvious losers.

Did anyone really think TPTB were going to put one of their own in office to take all the blame for the next disastrous 4 years?

Am I the only one that thinks TPTB must be laughing about putting a black man in office to be holding the bag when TSHTF?

GJH
GJH
November 8, 2012 10:51 am

Excellent reasoning LLPOH.

I doubt one minor point: “I expect the stock market to fall markedly as capital flees…”

There will be a lot of liquidity, and it has to go somewhere. Just a guess, but I’d expect it to climb nominally, but decline in real terms.

TeresaE
TeresaE
November 8, 2012 10:55 am

How anyone truly believed that O would be fired amused me.

He had the statisticians, and used them.
He has the unions, public and private, used them too.
He has the FSA, including the 15 odd million added to SNAP benefits, especially the millions working part-time at WallyWorld while getting free health care (if you have kids) and SNAP and reduced/free lunches, scared the hell out of them by making it too expensive to live without gov help, then presented the R’s as the ones to make their kids starve by taking it away.
He has many of the major corporations, whom received gov $$$$ to open plants and labs in Asia and South America.
He has the Jews, Netanyaho should pay attention to this, Romney meant more surely war, yet the American Jews voted for O.
He has the gays, used them.
He has the media, both entertainment and “news,” used the hell out of them.
He has Soros, always using him.
Same for Buffett

Just WHOM is going to be able to overcome all that?

Now throw in Wall Street, the military, the drug cartels, all of these are doing fine under O, why change?

My fear is that the lies and bullshit become so thick that everyone of us just give up and jump on the “gimme” train. Which means we’ll elect another Dem in 4 years to promise more free shit.

What a shining beacon on the hill, we are.

*puke*

Drowning in Parasitism
Drowning in Parasitism
November 8, 2012 6:39 pm

Vegas Employer: Obama Won, So I Fired 22 Employees

Do note the irony that most of his 114 employees were Hispanics (who’ve figured out the benefits of Leviathan’s countless safety nets for they and their umpteen bambinos greatly outweighs any regular day job):

Vegas Employer: Obama Won, So I Fired 22 Employees

LAS VEGAS (CBS Las Vegas) — A Las Vegas business owner with 114 employees fired 22 workers today, apparently as a direct result of President Obama’s re-election.

“David” (he asked to remain anonymous for obvious reasons) told Host Kevin Wall on 100.5 KXNT that “elections have consequences” and that “at the end of the day, I need to survive.”

Here’s an excerpt from the interview. Click the audio tab below to hear even more from this compelling conversation:

http://lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2012/11/07/vegas-employer-obama-won-so-i-fired-22-employees/

Mary: I agree with you totally on the election process being so adulterated by fraud that it means little more than going through the motions. Nonetheless, I “fought the powers” and dutifully voted for Gary Johnson as well as attempted to “throw all incumbents out.”

There is a website called “Blackbox” that is devoted to investigating and exposing election fraud. It is rampant. There were stories here in NC of people electronically voting for Romney and the votes being recorded for “Obama.” Blackbox has shown that with the flip of a switch, votes can be reversed. Diebold manufactures the machines and the artist David Dees who graphically chronicles our descent into totalitarianism has some (always) riveting artwork on “Diebold.” There was widespread voting fraud against Ron Paul in the 2004 campaign as well. Recall many of his followers were angry he didn’t challenge those engaged in the blatant fraud.

Obama is going to give Hispanics full-blown amnesty (no more baby-steps by stealth) likely through again circumventing the Constitution/Congress with yet another executive order to supplement his existing 171 acts of executive tyranny. He already threw the illegals an early bone by ordering the IRS to turn a blind eye to their 4 Billion $ in fraudulent dependent claims (see: http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?2426294-Illegals-get-4-billion-in-US-tax-refunds-claiming-children-who-live-in-Mexico) to add to their existing lucrative basket of goodies on the broken backs of the remaining taxpayers lucky enough to still have jobs.

Brother Nathanael Kapner (whom I’ve cited here before) also predicted Obama as a shoo-in by the globalist elites. He deduced as much by perusing their favored publications such as “Financial Times” and “The Economist” whereby he noted they were thrilled with their puppet’s performance (and why NOT?). I think the banksters/corporate fascists/Wall Street insiders just hedge their bets on both candidates just in case their concerted machinations don’t go their way.

“…I believe it began with the sixties movement and the beginning of moral relativism and the deconstruction of institutions” – cahuitabeachbound

Good post and astute observations. You’re dead-on accurate. The architect of Cultural Marxism, Antonio Gramsci, triumphed whereas Karl Marx had failed and the Bolsheviks within began in earnest their “long march through the institutions” and capturing the levers of power – in academia, the well-endowed non-profits, public policy think tanks, the media and of course, government. Art critic Roger Kimball is one of the best chroniclers of these sinister subversives in his book “The Long March: How the Cultural Revolution of the 1960s Changed America.” Also the following is an exemplary quick read on “Cultural Marxism” (I suspect Roger Kimball’s wife):

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/02/cultural_marxism.html

Drowning in Parasitism
Drowning in Parasitism
November 8, 2012 6:42 pm

“…There was widespread voting fraud against Ron Paul in the 2004”

Oops… Sorry; really sloppy these days. Should have read “2008”

S.

AWD
AWD
November 9, 2012 9:34 am

Lipoh never misses a chance to toot his own horn. Humility has never been one of his strong points. Smokey used to call Obama “tar baby”, hilarious. I’m still in shock, but at least I don’t have to worry about blacks rioting on the way home.

So, all-wise, all knowing Lipoh, who is going to run for president for the Republicans in 2016? Hillary Clinton as president? OMG, I think we’ll collapse long before that, but who knows. All I know is taxes are going up, freedom is going down, and we have an imbecile running the country, a country full of imbeciles.

Mary Malone
Mary Malone
November 9, 2012 11:23 am

Smokey and LLPOH aren’t the only ones who are to be congratulated for their keen insight:

MM:”He cheated. This was not a legit election. The numbers just don’t add up. The FSA, ,minorities, college kids, Jews, all voted with their feet firmly planted on the sofa.

This is not sour grapes or delusional. I’m telling ya – the results do not add up. Something is seriously wrong.

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7th November 2012 at 8:39 pm

And again..
MM: OKAY, Fine. Give me a thumbs down. Right now, the cheese stands alone. I am telling you I know Obama stuffed the ballot box, especially in Ohio. But results in all states are suspect.

The Republicans allowed the Dem/Marxists to vote early and often in Cleveland. Blacks threatened to riot if Obama lost, so the Dems were allowed to bus in homeless, union members, regular cast of characters to stuff the ballot boxes in early voting. We heard about this from people on the ground in Ohio. Everybody knew, and nothing was done to stop it.

That is how Romney lost Ohio.

It doesn’t matter if you supported Romney or not. This was not a legitimate election. The results do not add up.

It’s going to take several days to analyze all the numbers – really drill down into each precinct and county. There is something seriously wrong here. It won’t change the results, but the truth will surface in alt media. Stay tuned.

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7th November 2012 at 9:43 pm

Ahem…
In Cleveland, in some districts he did even better with an astounding 100% of the vote in dozens of locations. For example, in Cleveland’s Fifth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts E, F, and G 1,337 to Mitt Romney’s… 0. And in case you’re wondering, Gary Johnson received more votes than Mr. Romney.

Well, maybe that’s just a fluke. In the Ninth Ward, Mr. Obama won districts D-G with a paltry total of 1,740 to… 3. Hey, at least Romney got .2% of the vote!
http://www.punditpress.com/2012/11/what-luck-obama-won-dozens-of-cleveland.html

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