WATERTOWN, MA — On Friday, April 19, 2013, during a manhunt for a bombing suspect, police and federal agents spent the day storming people’s homes and performing illegal searches. While it was unclear initially if the home searches were voluntary, it is now crystal clear that they were absolutely NOT voluntary. Police were filmed ripping people from their homes at gunpoint, marching the residents out with their hands raised in submission, and then storming the homes to perform their illegal searches.
I had stop watching. I was too enraged.
excuse me, sir, we are from the policemen’s fraternity, currently conducting a routine inspection of homes in the neighborhood for your security. please step over to the neighborhood membership drive table for the annual policemen’s ball.
my point is that somehwere along the line home inspections will become routine, no search warrant needed. popos will laugh when a homeowner insists on seeing the search warrant and push them aside with their hands in the air. who’s the idiot that doesn’t understand irony?
Incredible. I feared that houses were being stormed. Now I have confirmation. Unbelievable. Just like after Katrina when guns were confiscated.
Anonymoose:
That’s how I feel. I’m SO angry watching this. In a way is it worth dying to defy them? Maybe. I’ve always been a romantic and it would be a way to go out.
Ernest Borgnine had a great line in Ice Station Zebra: “They say a bull dies a better death in the ring than in the slaughter house”.
Desperate times call for desperate measures, perhaps the suspect was holding the families hostage or a child in a closet etc. Use your head people the searches are legit for your safety you idiots
The Gestapo hard at work. I think I would have reacted in a different manner, meeting them at the door with a shotgun. Dead? Maybe. Cowed, never. Walking out of my home with hands on head like a criminal? No way. Due process with probable cause? Absolutely not..
Lawsuit to follow..
MA
Sickening
This is right out of Nazi Germany or Stalin’s Russia. Worse we have the MSM glorifying these violators of the Constitution as heroes.
The cops made a lot of enemies that day. People won’t forget being terrorized.
Worse it shows the abject hatred the police have towards the civilian population. After seeing this, I have every confidence that if they are ordered they WILL SHOOT civilians dead.
And this isn’t the first time. I first saw this during the Dorner search in the mountains where the cops were stopping every car at gun point and forcibly rifling through every car even though it was clear that no 6’2″ 270lb man could be hiding in the vehicle.
These cops are plain a** stupid and violent. No wonder Dorner freaked out and started capping them.
On a more sober note: Their use of Nazi SS tactics only shows their utter desperation and incompetence at locating a wounded idiot. If this is the best the cops can do, well they might as well pack it in. Because if they ever run into, say a small group that is smart and has resources. The fight is over before it began.
Ya know I will agree it sucks and I will agree that there are somethings worth dying for but at the point where the guy has an M4 in your face it is kind of too late to run to the bedroom and get a gun.
Again I will refer back to my earlier post where the dogs would have told me anyone was close to the house and I would prolly have been outside watching this happen to a neighbor.
I hope this puts to rest any argument anyone makes about federal officials tramping on constitutional rights during an ” emergency “
In your mind’s eye, change the color of the video black and white, and change the uniforms. Looks like they are rounding up Jews doesn’t it?
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i read somewhere they would leave the doors open. kind of makes it hard to terrorize you by kicking in the door if you leave it wide open.
Bet some were “oathkeepers”
No? There’s not one single oathkeeper in the Boston PD?
Or maybe they were, but they only had barricade duty, so there was evil order that they didn’t have to obey. Thus, their oath to “defend” the Constitution was intact! Hooooray for them!
Fucking hypocrite Obama.
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Desperado: if someone breaks into my house to evade police they will have enough bullets in them it will be the last evasion they attempt. I will be the one calling the police after the fact, they won’t have to come looking.
This type of action will eventually be resolved in one of two ways: Americans will accept servitude and total domination under the jackboot of govts or they will resist. Resistance will certainly involve shooting at the Popos. I don’t want it to come to this, but I don’t want to see out Constitution to be trampled either. The police will have to make a choice. Should be very interesting!
WILL SHOOT civilians dead….that is why you play nice when they are at your door.IF you are going to fight the cops you better have more than a shotgun….besides maybe they just needed the practice.
This is an interesting argument that has been eating away at me. One of my close colleagues, who sits next to me lives in Watertown and her father was a Watertown cop for about 40 years. The last shootout in Watertown was in the 1950’s. It is physically a very small town up the street from Boston and Cambridge. Cambridge is a very short drive over the Charles river to get into Boston. I can only speculate that this is why logistically you had so many towns worth of “help”. Her mom is in her 80’s, just got back into town from Florida little over a week ago, sometimes lives alone, sometimes with a niece. This colleague could not leave her house on Friday as most/all streets were in some form of lockdown all she could do is call to check on her mom. The search area did not include the block that this terrorist was found on, it appears they were a following blood trail that led to the projects, away from where he was found. Another of my colleagues has a good friend who it on one of the SWAT teams, they were told in no uncertain terms that no expense would be spared, and trust me from what I here none were. At the Watertown Arsenal Mall there were an estimated 9000 police personnel. They basically locked down a corridor from Boston to Newton. I did not arrive home until late Thursday night and was off Friday saw I did not drive through or around any of this mess. I cannot imagine what that did for most people in this area. My colleague who lives in Watertown could not leave her house to get to work. Many businesses in Boston were more or less shut down on this vacation week here in Massachusetts.
With this massive showing of force, people were constantly sold/propagandized on the necessity of the need for this type of police action. Truly if anyone had wanted to exert their constitutional rights that time had long past, the invasion was in full force, you could accept it or get the boot. Massachusetts in an unusual state, the people are actually pretty well “book educated”, but they have an unnerving acceptance that the government will do the right thing. I am sure much of that has to do with the educational system. It is ironic that many of the teachers and their professors who taught them were the hippies of the 60’s and 70’s who did not trust the man. The man now seems to be their best friend.
I just finished Follette’s book “Fall of Giants’ and am part way through “Winter World” and the parallels between early Communism and Nazism and what is happening in today’s America are terrifying. What is eerily frightening is the constant denial that I here from so many people. Admin’s outstanding article on the Abnormalcy Bias just reinforces much of what I have seen recently around Boston. People, most people, think this is OK. When they realize that it is not OK it will be far too late, on this I am sure.
This will not end well.
Thank you,
Bob.
Sorry that was so long.
Bob.
“Desperate times call for desperate measures, perhaps the suspect was holding the families hostage or a child in a closet etc. Use your head people the searches are legit for your safety you idiots.” – Desperado13
Des13,
What does your above statement have to do with loaded assault rifles being pointed at POSSIBLE non-combatant civilians, even children? What does it have to do with verbally threatening (screaming at) and pushing/shoving the abovesaid civilians who have already been identified as unarmed non-combatants with their hands in the air?
Please review the following 4 basic safety rules that apply to ANYONE and EVERYONE when handling and discharging firearms (no exceptions):
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I’m with John A.
The cops in the video appear to be sweeping both each other and the civilians with their rifles…practically every time you turn around.
It reminds me of Reno’s Goons (FBI) seizing Elian Gonzales. The photo of that showed a moron cop in his SS helmet waving an MP-5 submachine gun, in ONE HAND, with the safety CLEARLY in the OFF position. It was the most amazing demonstration of idiotic gun-handling since that DEA cop was videoed at a school, showing off to the students until he shot his own leg reholstering his Glock.
Experts? EXPERTS? Few cops are members of gun clubs. Few of them hang on enthusiast forums. Most cops seem to be less concerned with safe gun handling than my sons at age 10.
Cops have been taught to frog-march civilians with hands raised from every “crime scene” and shooter site. Notice when a school is evacuated due to an active shooter call…the kids are screamed at, bullied, and “storm-troopered” just like Jews on their way to the gas chamber.
This country and its citizens make me PUKE.
9,000+, and no warrants? Nobody touched the legal base? Nobody stopped and made copies?
What a load of horseshit!
We have the fourth amendment to prevent the sort of thing that happened in Watertown, MA. There is no excuse for this breach of respect for the people and exposing children to SWAT teams pointing guns at them. What did we do to deserve this?
We will always have violence in our society from outlaws but when the militarized police become outlaws with guns pointed at law abiding people, forcing their way into our houses and intimidating innocent citizens then the State has gone too far.
One person on the run; and the entire city is put in lockdown by the police is not the picture of a free people being served by it’s government. It clearly shows a police State where the people are treated as criminals. The criminals are the police! Who are these people who would turn on their own citizens to catch a bad guy running from the law? The police created a dangerous situation for the people because one wrong move or show of resistance could have resulted in someone getting shot in their own home by the police who are supposed to protect us. It is time to fire them and take care of ourselves. We don’t need this type of protection.
I’m sorry but in this case the police are the bad guys. Trigger happy dogs running through everyone’s houses looking for it’s prey. How sick. Tell me this isn’t something out of Nazi Germany?
We have allowed ourselves to be taken over by madmen. And they have recruited all the rabid dogs in the country to work under them.
I hope the people in this country do not let this happen again. This is not the America I grew up in and fought for in my military service. This is tyranny.
The video shows as they say ” How Liberty Dies” . Get used to it folks..this was a dry run for the future.
The cops in this video were “Merely doing their jobs looking for a terrorist ” . These are the same folks who will kick down your door when TSHTF because they are looking for ( insert what ever label you want to here ) ! Most of the cops etc are not on the side of freedom .
Keep hearing about lawsuits and “rights” and “amendments” and the like.
Puh-lease!
The SC ruled a few years back that the POPO don’t need no stinking warrant to enter your house, car, or business when they are “chasing” a criminal suspect.
If you resist, and they kill you, it is YOUR bad, even if THEY went to the wrong home.
If they are walking by your house, and “think” they smell pot, they can enter, kill your dog, kill you, arrest your kids and confiscate all your stuff and never even call a prosecutor to see if it is kosher. Then they can force your traumatized family to sue them to get their things back EVEN IF NOTHING illegal was ever found.
The days of “rights” and private property are LONG gone.
Funny thing is I get the feeling that many lamenting their deaths were A-OK and alright with the loss of said rights when Reagan told us it was to “fight” the drug war or “stop” the evil drunken drivers. Just what did we think would happen when we stood back mute while people were having homes and cars stolen for a joint? Or having their homes entered without warrants (going on for decades), or having their car searched or their breath analyzed for basically no crime. Unless, of course, you believe that cops only pull over the swerving drunks. More feel good bullshit for our safety and protection and the children.
Boston is the culmination of thousands and thousands and thousands of rulings that have put law “enforcement,” criminal suspect apprehension and the “public safety” above both our Constitutional rights, and our natural rights.
Only downhill from here.
I really pray that they are sued and something comes of it. I know that is BS since the SC has already ruled multiple times the other way.
But, I wish them luck.
Our country is in grave danger from within. This is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
The man they were looking for didn’t even enter anyone’s house. Funny how he had more respect for privacy than the police!
It was all laid out at Ruby Ridge and Waco a long time ago.
1) shoot the dogs.
2) shoot anyone who doesn’t instantly capitulate.
3) once the order to slaughter everyone is given, push all the reporters and cameras back so there’s no record of the uniformed thugs (including .mil wet work people trying to become “meat eaters” on soft targets) choosing slaughter over any other possible path.
4) make sure that no one keeps trophies like ears, fingers, jewelry, bloody pacifiers, etc.
When you show up in court, remember that the cop, the prosecutor and the judge all play for the same team, and that team owns the bench, the chairs, the air conditioner, the jail, the jail’s food service (or maybe it’s a campaign contributor private contractor who owns the jail, etc. and needs to make a profit so he needs bodies) and everything else.
Remember that the reporter who asks politicians and bureaucrats too many nosy questions will be dis-invited to every future press conference and such, and frozen out of his or her job within weeks or months. Reporters, like defense attorneys, know that being too zealous when confronting their adversaries leads to unemployment (at best).
We citizens pay for it all, but we don’t own one nail, one board, one knife, fork, or spoon. We are the aliens in every encounter with the state’s agents. We are the “other,” and lest we forget, the purpose of “othering” other humans is to make it socially easy to cut their throats, murder their babies and steal the bread from their mouths.
I guess many of those residents that allowed the Police to go into their homes without a warrant would have posted “from my cold dead fingers” here.
The fact, is that America is screwed because of the way the majority vote and what the majority value (security over rights). It is sad to say, but all of us will submit if a SWAT squadron storm our home.
Infuriating. And scary. And funny when you think of a car full of clowns at the circus. Really. How many mother fuckers in that house?
Is that a house full of clowns?! How many freakin’ people live there? I quit counting at like eight…
Seriously tho…Every time I see videos of these fucking jackbooted bearclaw huffing asshats, all I can think of is Chris Hedges’ article “The Careerists” and his recounting of the commandant of Treblinka who was kinda fine with his role in the killing of countless human beings because as he said, “I was ambitious and good at my job!”
Have to say it’s a coin toss as to who makes my stomach turn more, the Brownshirts of Boston or the ignorant sheep who took it without so much as a whimper!
The older brother. R.I.P. with your 70 virgins, bro.
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@Bostonbob – ” It is ironic that many of the teachers and their professors who taught them were the hippies of the 60′s and 70′s who did not trust the man.”
They sold out hardcore, but thats nothing new.
Selling out is the American Way.
Desperado13; No doubt you know, I am retired law enforcement. The police are looking for suspects who had attempted to kill as many personnel as possible with their bombs. The brother fired weapons and threw bombs during the police chase for his apprehension. They, Law Enforcement, knew that a fellow Officer had just been executed at MIT by these suspects.They are now searching for a co-conspirator who has been directly linked to these events. Adrenaline is coursing through the veins of all police personnel during these searches and yes they are scared regardless of their profession. Wake up ! people. if this had been the older brother on the loose in that neighborhood he would have killed any of you citizens to escape and further perpetrate his devine calling. I would gladly exit my home with hands on head and let them perform their mission.
After reviewing these responses and the support thereto you can clearly see why this country is going to hell in a hand basket. You are a rather large group of “pansy-asses” and I am sure glad I don’t live in Boston. I can guarantee none of you have ever fought for your country or truly defended our freedoms; and don’t come back with 4th Amendment Search and Seizure protections I instruct same at our university, (PhD categorized as liberal prof.)
desperado: add this to your list: go fuck yourself! You can’t guarantee a thing besides you are a POS!
D13
If by fight for my rights do you mean shoving a 686 in the general direction of the right eyeball of someone in my barn and holding them for the Sheriff then I have fought for MY rights.
If by fighting for the rights of others do you mean fighting 3 2o year old punks trying to get my obviously drunken neighbor kid into a car then I have fought for others. That one actually got me hospitalized for a day with a cracked skull. I did it because I knew my neighbor would do the same for my kid.
I have been called a few names in my life with fat mean fuck being the most used. Pansy ass ain’t one of them.
O and fuck you
Des13,
The Watertown homeowners in question were told to stay IN their homes and OFF the streets by LE. That’s exactly what they did. Then, they were abruptly ordered OUT of their homes at gunpoint under verbal/physical duress (shouting that could be heard across the street). Under the circumstance of this search, I really have no problem with LE officers entering a home after identifying themselves and stating their intentions in a civil manner. My beef is the threatening of civilians at gunpoint and verbal/physical abuse thereafter. These people were already anxious/upset when LE stepped onto their porches. Do you see and understand that? So multiple, loaded weapons with muzzles pointed directly at them (in their own homes) and shouting of instructions was prudent and effective thing to do? Not in my opinion. It’s a miracle that no innocents were shot or injured. It could have easily happened. In the above video, LE officers conducting the searches are perceived as just as dangerous as the suspect themselves, perhaps even more so. This is a true statement whether you believe it or not.
Automatically treating civilians (per LE protocol or whatever) like terrorists/suspects shows consummate contempt and disrespect for our citizenry and (to me) it borders on unforgivable. If a LE officer or Federal agent sees his own life/survival as more important than the citizen he is trying to protect, then perhaps he needs to pursue another profession. Good day to you, sir.