Posted on 6th June 2013 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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Mother, do you think they’ll drop the bomb?
Mother, do you think they’ll like this song?
Mother, do you think they’ll try to break my balls?
Ooh ah,
Mother, should I build the wall?

Mother, should I run for president?
Mother, should I trust the government?
Mother, will they put me in the firing line?
Ooh ah,
Is it just a waste of time?

Pink Floyd – Mother

The lyrics to Mother had both a literal and figurative meaning for Roger Waters. He was literally describing his overprotective single mother (his father was killed in World War II) building walls to protect him from the outside world. The figurative meaning is Big Mother sending its boys off to war and using fear to control and manipulate the masses. At the time he wrote this song in 1979, the Soviet Union was thought to be at its peak of power and the Berlin Wall represented a boundary between good and evil. Nuclear war was still a looming fear. Waters has always had a dim view of totalitarian states and institutions (English schools). Having seen his Wall Tour performance this past summer at Citizens Bank Park with a diverse crowd of 40,000, ranging in age from senior citizens to teenagers, it seems this song has gained new meaning. He sang a duet with himself from 1980 projected on the Wall and when he sang the lyric, “Mother, should I trust the government?” the entire stadium responded in unison – NO!!! This revealed a truth that is not permitted to be discussed by the corporate mainstream media acting as a mouthpiece for the ruling class. A growing legion of citizens in this country does not trust the government. This is very perceptive on their part.

In part one of this two part series – Hey You – I examined how an invisible government of wealthy, power hungry men have utilized the propaganda techniques of Edward Bernays and lured the American people into a narcissistic, techno-gadget, debt based servitude. Over the last one hundred years they have created a totalitarian state built upon egotism, material goods, and fulfilling our desires through Wall Street peddled debt and mass consumerism. It has been an incredibly effective form of control that has convinced the masses to love their servitude. The ruling oligarchs correctly chose the painless, amusement saturated, soft totalitarianism of Huxley’s Brave New World over the fearful, pain inflicting, surveillance state, house of horrors detailed in Orwell’s 1984.

“A really efficient totalitarian state would be one in which the all-powerful executive of political bosses and their army of managers control a population of slaves who do not have to be coerced, because they love their servitude.” Aldous Huxley – Brave New World

The nefarious establishment of the Federal Reserve in 1913, launch of welfare programs in the 1930s, expansion of the entitlement state in the 1960s, creation of the credit card in 1970, mass media marketing propaganda, and the formation of an empire of debt laid the foundation for a society based on triviality, egotism, irrelevance and mass delusion. The conscious manipulation of the habits and opinions of the masses by an invisible government of powerful men using media propaganda and easy to access consumer credit has reached its mathematical limit. The oligarchs built a society dependent upon exponential growth. This unsustainable prototype began to show signs of strain in the 1990s. The powerful interests have been growing ever more desperate and blatantly obvious in their looting and pillaging of the debt bloated carcass of a country. They used their control of the political system to repeal Glass-Steagall, allowing the Wall Street banking cabal to become Too Big to Control. The oligarch puppets at the Wall Street controlled Federal Reserve did the bidding of their masters by reducing interest rates and expanding the money supply to create two epic bubbles.

The bubble was created by Wall Street utilizing hype and misinformation to fleece millions into believing we had entered a new paradigm. The only people who got rich were the Wall Street hucksters, shysters and shills.

When the bubble burst, Alan Greenspan came to the rescue, at the urging of Nobel prize winner Paul Krugman, by creating the largest banker made bubble in the history of the world. The combination of excessively low mortgage rates, complete lack of regulatory oversight by the Federal Reserve, control fraud committed by the Wall Street banks, and buying frenzy stirred up by the corporate MSM and NAR, led to the biggest financial collapse since 1929.

The white collared psychopathic criminals on Wall Street reaped billions in profits, paid themselves millions in bonuses, and cost taxpayers trillions when it all blew up in 2008. The ruling elite have added $6 trillion to our national debt and their central banker has added another $2 trillion to our ultimate tab, while providing free money to their Wall Street bank owners. They realize their efforts to restart the exponential growth engine have failed. They gutted our productive manufacturing based economic system by shipping the blue collar jobs overseas to Chinese slave labor facilities, replaced workers with machines, stimulated consumption with unlimited distribution of high interest debt, and allowed conglomerates to drive small business owners out of business with their cheap foreign sourced goods, all in the name of capitalism. The plan worked so well that real wages haven’t risen in 40 years, inflation has destroyed the purchasing power of the middle class, 47.7 million people are dependent on food stamps to survive, and the masses can’t even afford the cheap slave labor produced trinkets anymore. There is too little cash, too few jobs, too much debt, too many takers, too few makers, too many bankers, too much delusion, and too few resources to sustain the unsustainable. We have entered the end stages of a ravenous locust swarm. The fields have been stripped barren.

When the men in smoke filled rooms realized their soft totalitarianism was losing its grip on the oblivious, submissive, egoistical, distracted masses, they began phase two of their effort to retain their wealth, power and control. They began to institute Orwellian measures to strike fear into the populace. Their illusion of control is dissipating and they are resorting to force in order to maintain hegemony. It began with the immediate passage of the Orwellian Patriot Act one month after 9/11. Did the corporate media question how a 363 page all-encompassing expansion of police state power was written in a few weeks after 9/11 and passed by October 26? They did not. The bill was pre-written and ready for instant implementation when the time was right. The Orwellian version of America was launched.

“If the ideology had been a lie, then they are not heroes and gods on earth, but monsters and criminals, and their life has been self-serving and meaningless, without significance and honor. And that is the credibility trap. It is the impulse for the leaders to keep doubling down in the hope of a win, until exhaustion and collapse.” – Jesse       

Obedience to Authority

“Ordinary people, simply doing their jobs, and without any particular hostility on their part, can become agents in a terrible destructive process. Moreover, even when the destructive effects of their work become patently clear and they are asked to carry out actions incompatible with fundamental standards of morality, relatively few people have the resources needed to resist authority.”  – Stanley Milgram – Obediance to Authority


Just as Edward Bernays knew the unruly masses could be manipulated by propaganda and molded to believe whatever the small group of intellectually superior men wanted them to believe, conditioning using fear and authoritarian methods have also been perfected by the ruling class. Doctor Stanley Milgram unwittingly provided the oligarchs with confirmation the average citizen could be ordered to do anything by invoking expertise and authority over their subjects. Milgram started his experiments in 1961, shortly after the trial of the World War II criminal Adolph Eichmann had begun. Eichmann’s defense that he was simply following orders when he exterminated millions of Jews roused Milgram’s interest. How could millions of Germans participate and condone such genocide? Milgram’s testing suggested that it could have been that the millions of accomplices were merely following orders, despite violating their deepest moral beliefs.

Writer Kendra Cherry describes the experiment:

The participants in the Milgram experiment were 40 men recruited using newspaper ads. Milgram developed an intimidating shock generator, with shock levels starting at 30 volts and increasing in 15-volt increments all the way up to 450 volts. The many switches were labeled with terms including “slight shock,” “moderate shock” and “danger: severe shock.” The final two switches were labeled simply with an ominous “XXX.”

Each participant took the role of a “teacher” who would then deliver a shock to the “student” every time an incorrect answer was produced. While the participant believed that he was delivering real shocks to the student, the student was actually a confederate in the experiment who was simply pretending to be shocked.

As the experiment progressed, the participant would hear the learner plead to be released or even complain about a heart condition. Once the 300-volt level had been reached, the learner banged on the wall and demanded to be released. Beyond this point, the learner became completely silent and refused to answer any more questions. The experimenter then instructed the participant to treat this silence as an incorrect response and deliver a further shock.

Most participants asked the experimenter whether they should continue. The experimenter issued a series of commands to prod the participant along:

    • “Please continue.”
    • “The experiment requires that you continue.”
    • “It is absolutely essential that you continue.”
    • “You have no other choice, you must go on.”

The level of shock that the participant was willing to deliver was used as the measure of obedience. How far do you think that most participants were willing to go? When Milgram posed this question to a group of Yale University students, it was predicted that no more than 3 out of 100 participants would deliver the maximum shock. In reality, 65% of the participants in Milgram’s study delivered the maximum shocks.

Of the 40 participants in the study, 26 delivered the maximum shocks while 14 stopped before reaching the highest levels. It is important to note that many of the subjects became extremely agitated, distraught and angry at the experimenter. Yet they continued to follow orders all the way to the end. Why did so many of the participants in this experiment perform a seemingly sadistic act on the instruction of an authority figure? According to Milgram, there are a number of situational factors that can explain such high levels of obedience:

    • The physical presence of an authority figure dramatically increased compliance.
    • The fact that the study was sponsored by Yale (a trusted and authoritative academic institution) led many participants to believe that the experiment must be safe.
    • The selection of teacher and learner status seemed random.
    • Participants assumed that the experimenter was a competent expert.
    • The shocks were said to be painful, not dangerous.

The American people have been participants in their very own Milgram experiment being conducted by their government since 9/11. Since the passage of the Patriot Act, the government continues to demand that its citizens increase the voltage in the name of security. Since 2001, the Orwellian measures have included:

  • Warrantless domestic surveillance.
  • The ability to search telephone calls, emails, financial matters especially involving foreign individuals, and medical records for people who are “suspected” of endangering the country.
  • Color coded risk levels designed to keep citizens fearful of non-existent terrorists.
  • Pre-emptive invasion of foreign countries.
  • Committing U.S. forces to war without a declaration of war by Congress as mandated in the U.S. Constitution.
  • Assassination of people on presidential kill lists.
  • Extermination of “suspected” enemies by predator drones.
  • Camera systems monitoring the movements of Americans in cites and streets across the United States.
  • Torture of detainees in camps outside of the United States.
  • The authority to indefinitely detain America citizens without trial.
  • Executive orders giving the President the ability to unilaterally disregard the U.S. Constitution and take control of private industries.
  • Use of drones to monitor the activities of American citizens.
  • Allowing the very bankers that destroyed the worldwide economic system to blackmail the American taxpayers into handing them $700 billion.
  • Not prosecuting one Wall Street criminal after the largest Ponzi control fraud in the history of the world.
  • Cameras and listening devices on public transit and other public locations.
  • Military exercises conducted in U.S. cities in order to condition the masses.
  • Attempts to control and censor the internet through the introduction of the SOPA bill.
  • The use of tragic mass murders by mentally defective young men on psychotropic drugs to disregard the 2nd Amendment and disarm American citizens.
  • TSA thugs molesting little old ladies and young children to desensitize citizens to gestapo like tactics and treat them like criminals.
  • Government partnering with Facebook, Apple and other corporate entities to monitor, censor, and report the activities of citizens to the authorities.
  • The use of public schools to teach children what to think rather than how to think. Thought control is vital to an agenda of keeping the masses fearful and pliable.
  • Government agencies (FBI, ATF) creating terrorist plots, luring young dupes into the plots, providing fake explosives, and then announcing with great fanfare they have foiled a terrorist plot.
  • “See something, Say something” government media campaign designed to make citizens paranoid and fearful.

Just as Milgram pondered how the German people could follow the orders of those in authority to slaughter millions, one must ponder how the American people have allowed those in power to strip us of our Constitutional freedoms and liberties in the name of safety and security. They have conditioned the masses to passively accept their fate by utilizing fear, authoritarian measures, thought control, and propaganda. Human beings never change. They have been driven by emotions throughout history – fear, greed, love and hate. There will always be psychopathic men who seek wealth, power, glory and control. It happened during the decline of the Roman Empire and it is happening today during the decline of the American Empire.

“A shocking crime was committed on the unscrupulous initiative of few individuals, with the blessing of more, and amid the passive acquiescence of all.”Tacitus

Big Brother is Watching You

“Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.”George Orwell – 1984


What the average person can’t seem to process through their government public school educated non-critical thinking brains is that there are actually a small group of bankers, politicians, corporate executives, media magnets, and shadowy billionaires who call the shots in this country. They constitute Bernays’ invisible government, run the show, mold the minds, form the opinions, suggest the ideas, and create the reality for the masses because they believe they are intellectually superior. The left/right and Democrat/Republican discord is a planned diversion for the masses. The country has devolved into a corporate fascist warfare/welfare state. We are clearly moving in the direction of Orwell’s state in which government monitors and controls every aspect of human life to the extent that even having a disloyal thought will be against the law. The longer this is allowed to progress the more likely any effort to resist like Winston Smith will be met with brutal measures.

The parallels to Orwell dystopian nightmare state grow by the day. Those in control use technology to bombard Americans with psychological inducements designed to overwhelm the mind’s capability for autonomous thought. In Orwell’s 1984 the giant telescreen in every citizen’s room blasts a constant stream of propaganda designed to make the failures and shortcomings of the Party appear to be triumphant successes. In Obama’s 2013 the 72 inch Chinese made HDTVs in every McMansion blasts a constant stream of propaganda designed to make the zombie-like occupants buy trinkets and gadgets with a thin piece of plastic and makes the failures in Iraq, Afghanistan, Egypt and Libya appear to be triumphant successes. Our corporate/fascist party uses their control over the media message to indoctrinate and control the public mind through propaganda and repetitive messaging. In Orwell’s world, the Party undermines family structure by inducting children into an organization called the Junior Spies, which brainwashes and encourages them to spy on their parents and report any instance of disloyalty to the Party. In our world children are indoctrinated in government run public schools that fill their brains with government manufactured history, social engineering claptrap and what they should think, rather than how to think. The Orwellian Department of Homeland Security (Thought Police) instructs them to report anyone they think is suspicious with their “See something, Say something” campaign. Children are “encouraged” to re-educate their parents about green energy and global warming. Corporations fund schools to advertise their products within the hallways of learning. The outputs of this corporate/fascist partnership are non-critical thinking, functionally illiterate, willfully ignorant Proles who obey the Party and consume products as instructed.

In Orwell’s 1984 the Party keeps the population in a general state of exhaustion by making them work long grueling hours at government run agencies. This was designed to keep them from thinking or having the energy to resist. About one in six workers work for the government in the United States, with a substantial portion of private jobs dependent upon government largesse. The true distinction in our society can be seen in the income levels over decades of our own Inner Party, Outer Party and Proles.

income percentile

The government educated masses were purposely not taught about the impact of Federal Reserve created inflation on their lives. Even using the government manipulated CPI, the real household incomes of the masses have barely risen in the last forty five years. Using a true measure of inflation, the real household incomes of the average family have fallen. In addition, prior to the 1980s those household incomes were predominantly provided with one parent working and the other raising the children. Today the vast majority of households require both parents to work in order to just tread water. Child rearing was delegated to the state and parents have been kept in a constant state of exhaustion, like hamsters in a cage on a spinning wheel. Household income was replaced by credit card debt, mortgage debt, auto debt, and student loan debt peddled by our very own Inner Party (Wall Street bankers). The Inner Party members have seen their incomes soar over the last four decades. This was not an accident.

As those at the top accumulate an ever increasing percentage of the national wealth, while consolidating their power through ever more sophisticated use of technology for surveillance, warfare, and financial theft; urban decay and blight spreads across the land. Totalitarian regimes are ferociously effective at augmenting their own power and wretchedly incompetent at providing for their citizens. Just as the London in Orwell’s dystopian world was a decrepit, rundown city in which buildings were crumbling, amenities such as elevators never worked, and basics such as electricity and plumbing were exceedingly undependable, the urban killing fields that are home to tens of millions in the United States are dangerous, disintegrating, hallowed out carcasses of once thriving metropolises. Hunger, poverty, crumbling infrastructure, and violence are the earmarks of society for the Proles. True unemployment exceeds 20%, with youth and minority unemployment exceeding 40%. There are 47.7 million Americans subsisting on food stamps (program administered by JP Morgan), accounting for 20% of all the households in the country.

The incompetency and mismanagement by our totalitarian governing body is evident for all to see, as bridges collapse, water mains burst, gas lines explode, mass transit shuts down and structures deteriorate due to decades of neglect. The priorities of those in power are clearly visible as they spend trillions on weapons used to attack sovereign countries, distribute billions in “aid” to foreign dictators, provide trillions to the criminal banking cabal on Wall Street, and devote billions to technology designed to monitor and control their citizens. Our entire rotting, fetid, bloated, corrupt society has about reached its limits. It is only a matter of time until it implodes like the former Soviet Union.

Diminishing returns of ever-increasing complexity addressed with ever-more layers of complexity, larded with systematic lying based on mystifying, opaque jargon, sanctioned statistical misreporting, felonious cronyism, and scuttling of the rule of law. In short, the markets have been taken over in effect by a criminal racketeering syndicate. In doing this, so much resilience has been removed from these market structures that they are riddled with rot, like a mansion infested with carpenter ants.” – Jim Kunstler

We Have Always Been at War with Eastasia

Hush now baby, baby, don’t you cry.
Mamma’s gonna make all of your nightmares come true,
Mamma’s gonna put all of her fears into you,
Mamma’s gonna keep you right here, under her wing.

  She won’t let you fly, but she might let you sing,
Mamma’s gonna keep baby cozy and warm.
Oooh babe, Oooh babe, Oooh babe,
Of course Mamma’s gonna help build the wall.

Pink Floyd – Mother

The concepts of Doublethink and Newspeak are alive and well in our increasingly Orwellian society. The massive long-term campaign of large-scale psychological manipulation, described in detail by Edward Bernays in 1928, has succeeded in breaking down the capacity for independent thought by the masses. Those in control of the media have molded the minds of millions to believe anything the government tells them, even while possessing information that runs counter to what they are being told. On the eve of the invasion of Iraq, the government and their media propaganda mouthpieces had convinced 69% of the American public that Saddam Hussein was involved in the 9/11 attacks, even though there wasn’t a shred of evidence to support that claim. The storyline of Iraqi soldiers murdering Kuwaiti babies in their incubators during the first Gulf War was another example of propaganda designed to manipulate public opinion. By controlling the media message, those in power control the present and can manipulate the past. The government controls the curriculum in public schools and writes our history to conform to whatever storyline that supports their agenda. With 20% of the adult population in this country functionally illiterate, the formulation of ideas or critical thought is virtually impossible for these people. This is exactly what is desired by the ruling class.

The outrageous example of Doublethink in Orwell’s 1984 occurs during the Hate Week rally.  The Party shifts its diplomatic allegiance, so the nation it has been at war with suddenly becomes its ally (Eurasia), and its former ally becomes its new enemy (Eastasia). When the Party speaker suddenly changes the nation he refers to as an enemy in the middle of his speech, the crowd accepts his words immediately, and is ashamed to find that it has made the wrong signs for the event. The American people have been programmed to accept the same logic from our leaders. Saddam Hussein was our ally when he was fighting our enemy Iran, who had been our ally ever since we had overthrown their democratically elected leader in the 1950s. Then he became our enemy for using weapons of mass destruction, provided to him by the U.S., on his own people and threatening our control over Middle Eastern oil. Osama bin Laden was our ally when he was fighting our mortal enemy, the Soviet Union. Then he became our mortal enemy because we refused to leave Saudi Arabia after the first Gulf War. Ghadafi was our sworn enemy after blowing up an airliner filled with Americans, until he helped us after 9/11 and became an ally. Then he became an enemy again for fighting to maintain his dictatorship. Mubarak was an ally for decades as we provided him billions in military hardware so he could brutally maintain control. Then he became an enemy when we decided he was no longer of use. Do you get the picture?

Do you see any parallels between Orwell’s Ministry of Plenty (oversees economic shortages); the Ministry of Peace (wages war); the Ministry of Truth (conducts propaganda and historical revisionism); and the Ministry of Love (the center of the Party’s operations of torture and punishment) and our Department of Agriculture, Department of Defense, Department of Education, and Department of Homeland Security?  

“In our age there is no such thing as ‘keeping out of politics.’ All issues are political issues, and politics itself is a mass of lies, evasions, folly, hatred and schizophrenia. The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history.”George Orwell

Should I Trust the Government?

So the oligarchs have utilized all the plays in Huxley’s playbook and are half way through Orwell’s playbook, but they are rapidly losing their credibility as a small minority of critical thinking people is using the internet to spread the truth and form phyles with like-minded citizens with similar values based on liberty and freedom. The political system is broken beyond repair as $2 billion was spent during this last “election” to maintain the status quo. The looting and pillaging of the middle class continues, while the poor are kept controlled, sedated and enslaved by entitlements, debt, drugs and prisons. The financial system is succumbing to the mountains of debt that have been accumulated trying to keep the game going. In the last ten years worldwide total credit market debt, on balance sheets, sovereign obligations, corporate debt, household debt – has grown from $80 trillion to just over $200 trillion. U.S. unfunded liabilities committed to by the politician parasites that pass for our representatives surpass $200 trillion. There are $1.2 quadrillion of interconnected derivatives outstanding in the world today, 20 times the size of the worldwide economy. The accumulation of worldwide debt, aging developed country populations, depletion of resources, perpetual war, financial fraud and rampant corruption are going to lead to a collapse of epic proportions. It may not happen in 2013, but it will happen within the next five years. Jesse explains why the status quo will never relinquish their power, illegally acquired wealth and control without a fight:

“A credibility trap is a condition wherein the financial, political and informational functions of a society have been compromised by corruption and fraud, so that the leadership cannot effectively reform, or even honestly address, the problems of that system without impairing and implicating, at least incidentally, a broad swath of the power structure, including them. The status quo tolerates the corruption and the fraud because they have profited at least indirectly from it, and would like to continue to do so. Even the impulse to reform within the power structure is susceptible to various forms of soft blackmail and coercion by the system that maintains and rewards.

And so a failed policy and its support system become self-sustaining, long after it is seen by objective observers to have failed. In its failure it is counterproductive, and an impediment to recovery in the real economy. Admitting failure is not an option for the thought leaders who receive their power from that system.  The continuity of the structural hierarchy must therefore be maintained at all costs, even to the point of becoming a painfully obvious hypocrisy.”

The people of this country must regain a sense of responsibility for their lives and the lives of future generations. Enough people need to perceive they are being manipulated, controlled and used by the thought leaders and awaken from their narcissistic materialistic debt financed lives. Our culture has failed. The animosity and anger in the country is beginning to bubble over. The masses are beginning to realize they have been screwed. They haven’t figured out who to blame because they are still trapped in the Republican/Democrat false dogma. There is one Party putting on a show, as displayed this week with the fiscal cliff farce, as the government controlled media proclaimed victory because the status quo was maintained, nothing was cut, and $4 trillion was added to the National Debt. More people need to question and challenge the authorities. We must cast aside our willful ignorance of facts and accept the consequences of decades of bad decisions and delusions of grandeur. More government is not the answer. We must break free of the conditioning and mind control used to make us love our servitude and trust those in power.

Kyle Bass recently revealed a fact about our government leaders:

“They’re not going to tell you that a collapse is coming. You’re going to have to see it for yourself. The government’s never going to tell you that it’s going to happen. These guys are never going to tell you the truth, because they can’t tell you the truth. Their job is to promote confidence, not to tell you the truth.”

We need more people to respond to Roger Waters’ question, “Mother, should I trust the government?” with this answer before we can begin to tear down the wall that seemed too high.

“During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.”George Orwell


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  1. AKAnon says:

    Thanks, Admin. Just thanks. Tremendous. That Jesse is a smart fucker too.


    1st January 2013 at 10:20 pm

  2. m_astera says:

    This is a powerful essay. A succinct statement of the existing state of affairs and how they came about, along with who is behind it and why. Nicely done, thank you.

    Michael Astera


    1st January 2013 at 10:34 pm

  3. Shorty Dawkins says:

    Well done article. It is the Huxley/Orwell/Bernays nightmare that we are living in right now. The truth has been out there for a long time, it has just not been recognized as such by the masses, who have swallowed the bait hook line and sinker. It is just for the anglers to reel in the catch. FEMA camps? Yes, they ready. Hate is love. War is peace. Lies are truth. The non-thinking masses, dumb down in schools, spoon fed trivia and mind control in the media, will be led to the slaughter.


    1st January 2013 at 10:37 pm

  4. sangell says:

    Yeah, I’m disgusted too but we’ve gone well beyond Orwellian methods of political manipulation or even Bernays. Today focus groups allow the people to be told the story they want to hear and they have been so conditioned to hearing it played back to them by the media reality no longer matters.

    Harry Reid can say that the deal he made last night was ‘to protect the middle class’ and because taxes will go up a bit on those with high incomes it is believed because that is the idiotic level of thinking the public has been reduced to. So a guy making $1million dollars may pay $50,000 more in income tax this year than last. How does that really benefit the middle class? What’s Reid doing to really protect the middle class? Put another way is the middle class family better off if because Washington gets $50,000 more from the rich guy? They won’t see any of the money. What they are likely to see instead is Reid’s party coming after them for more tax revenue and fines to pay for government at the state and local level.

    People say that education is important and it is but that doesn’t mean a public school with public employee union teachers is offering a good education. But the politicians have convinced them otherwise. That they must pay more tax when all the money is being spent on salaries and pensions of teachers and other school staff who are immune from any reasonable measures of job performance.

    It goes on everywhere like the storyline of ‘professional wrestling’ . I’m afraid the author has even bought into elements of it. The idea that there is some cabal of rich people who conspire to control our lives? I doubt Larry Ellison or Bill Gates know Jamie Dimon’s or Lloyd Blankfein’s phone numbers and may never have even met them. Certainly the Koch brothers don’t dine with George Soros and Warren Buffett… EVER!

    The only conspiracy I know if is an obvious and flagrant one between the Democratic Party and the major media organs sans Murdochs properties and academia. But , as I said, it is an open conspiracy that self selects it membership by virtue of subscribing to a fantasy conspiracy that doesn’t exist. That white racism is the reason for black failure. That the Republicans are the party of the rich even though few of them are. That Democrats are the party of peace even as they wage war. Overthrowing Raoul Cedras in Haiti was the humanitarian thing to do but getting rid of Saddam Hussein was only about oil. Samoza was a tyrant, Daniel Ortega a saint. Its childish but adults swallow this stuff hook line and sinker.


    1st January 2013 at 10:49 pm


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    2nd January 2013 at 12:26 am

  6. sangell says:

    Let me posit an alternative scenario.

    You have a bunch of clown politicians, many of them who actually believe they are doing the people’s work, others who are total ideologues, a few who on the take and together they control the wealth and resources of a vast continent of great riches. They number only a few hundred and even with their staffs ( who may have their own ambitions) they are only a few thousand.

    Arrayed against this rather feeble group of guardians of the public trust you have:

    Entire industries with many millions for lobbying
    Large unions with many millions for lobbying
    Mercenaries composed of the smartest people on the planet ( hedge funds lets call them)
    vast voting blocs looking for a pound of financial flesh
    Foreign governments looking for a pound of financial flesh
    Non profit organizations with many millions for lobbying
    Mercenary law firms looking to tear a piece of financial flesh from their prey
    Low IQ media anchors and reporters thinking they are part of the ‘guardians of the public trust’ in the same way that the papparazzi think they are part of Hollywood.
    Whomever I forgot.

    This freeforall is called government and because government is now the most powerful force on the planet, whomever can do the best job of controlling it or outsmarting it wins. Any one of the winners gets vast riches because the government simply shifts the wealth around. It creates none of it. This witches brew has led to mind numbing complexity, loss of liberty and economic inefficiency.

    Since the smartest and or most ruthless people tend to dominate systems where rules are pliable and constantly changing the idea that the ‘rich’ of today can control such an unstable system is ridiculous. The hungry quant or corrupt insider of today will be the mover and shaker of tomorrow. And as Walter Cronkite used to end his pathetic newscasts “And thats the way it is”.


    2nd January 2013 at 1:20 am

  7. j-dub says:

    How do I personally fight an oppressive government?
    By verbally berating TSA hacks as I am being searched because I always “opt out.”
    I explain what they are really doing and when they say they are just doing their job, I have respnded once or twice,”I heard the same thing in Nuremberg.”
    I am not quiet about it and anyone within a few earshots can hear what I am saying. Every time, the TSA supervisor is called. I have been threatened with arrest, police and detainment even though I have never cursed, yelled at, or threatened TSA. I am trying to wake them and the passing sheeple from their slumber. It is not easy work. Once, 5 passengers opted out with me as I explained a bit of my point of view. But only once.
    Last time, during Thanksgiving, the ‘groper’ told me not to talk. I gave him and his boss hell when I reminded them as to what country we live in. Amazing how a little bit of power goes right to the head and they forget they too are Americans.
    I must be in honest in admitting that I don’t know if my fellow flyers think I am deranged, secretly nod in approval and thank G-D someone is doing something or don’t even notice what is happening to them/around them.
    I can tell you this: I will never stop. I couldn’t stop if I wanted to because the cause is just. And the method of defiance is true. Right now I am not beaten for insolence. In ten years time however, I might be typing this comment with my tongue. For me, living on one’s knees is worse.

    What is your method of resistance?


    2nd January 2013 at 2:20 am

  8. sangell says:

    J-DUB, I honestly don’t know.

    I contacted my representative earlier and told him I supported the Cantor amendment that would have at least cut some spending. Cantor used to be my Congressman so I could still contact him. I think tried to contact John Boehner. No can do. I went to Zillow to find a home for sale in his district so I could put in local data but his website says no contact allowed.

    I used to be able to look up fax numbers for these guys. I’d fax there offices and , more often than not, get a call or fax back. No more. These guys are ‘representatives’ anymore. They are scared nocturnal animals hoping to hide from the American people just long enough to scurry back into their fortified and federally protected holes in the ground. Guess we will have to dig them out or put gopher traps down in their tunnels to kill them in their lairs.


    2nd January 2013 at 2:40 am

  9. Reverse Engineer says:

    “Trust” & “Goobermint” in the same sentence is an Oxymoron. Think Jumbo Shrimp, Military Intelligence, Honest Banksters, Capitalist Ethics or Polite TBPers. 😀



    2nd January 2013 at 3:01 am

  10. Rampaging Manatee says:

    Excellent essay. I’ve had the pleasure of seeing Roger Waters 3 times. Imho, he’s the greatest rock ‘n’ roll writer and performer of our time.

    “It all makes perfect sense,
    Expressed in dollars and cents,
    Pounds, schillings and pence.
    Can’t you see?
    It all makes perfect sense.”


    2nd January 2013 at 4:00 am

  11. Bruce says:

    I trust that the government-banker-corporate-military-security police state is a cluster fuck of crime, incompetence, delusion and brutality.

    I trust that the government at every level local state and federal is wasteful, self serving, and wicked.

    I trust that foreign governments at every level are criminal, conniving and bad to the bone.

    I trust that the bankers here and around the world have the greatest amount of power and influence over our government, the governments of the world and people of the earth and that they are the foulest of all evil.

    I trust that the those who wish to impose their will upon others gravitate into government or aspire to the highest levels of wealth by criminal means tin order to use wealth as the greatest of tool of influence.

    I trust that China and its’ government is the next greatest enemy of man next to the bankers and politicians..

    I trust that only with the destruction of the bankers can any progress in the conditions of mankind have any chance to be made.

    I trust that men can only be free if all governments, politicians and bankers are terminated.

    I trust that every child who starves to death, every person murdered by war, and that every man women and child who suffer with out enough food, suitable clothing and basic shelter do so because of bankers, politicians, corporate and religious leaders. They are the ones directly responsible for all neglect, social suffering and atrocities on earth. They alone are the reasons for failed economies and the conflicts of nations. They are the leaders and they are responsible and deserve to be punished in the cruel and deadly ways they have reigned by.

    I trust that nothing will be done to hold the leadership of the world accountable for there evil crimes and depredations upon the world. I trust that they will only get worse.

    I trust that the competition of the PTB amongst themselves driven by greed and lust for power will eventually unravel in to economic destruction, war and oppression that will lead to the devastation of themselves and all of mankind.

    I trust that those left after the great cull of humanity and all its systems will slowly organize and rebuild and take to heart not one lesson from their past because that is human nature.

    I trust that the common good serves no good purpose beyond the community where any sacrifice, tax or required service can be plainly understood and the benefits clear and evident to all. I trust that can not happen with out the total failure of the worlds systems of finance and authority. I trust that only this level of organization offers a chance that the humanitarian elements of socialism and the great benefits of capitalism may combine in a just and desirable way.

    I trust that no authority can be trusted.

    I trust that we are doomed.


    2nd January 2013 at 5:25 am

  12. Burt Loomis says:

    Dear Mr. Quinn & whoever else, The only investment I have made over the years is many,many official infowars products that are personally autographed by Mr. Alex Jones himself. Do you folks figure these here investment vee-hickles will keep pace with inflation over the coming years? Thank you kindly, Burt Loomis, Muleshoe, Texas


    2nd January 2013 at 5:38 am

  13. Reverse Engineer says:

    I trust that the Sun Will come Out Tomorrow.

    Tomorrow! Tomorrow! It’s only a Day Away! :)


    Tomorrow, there will be a Bankster Swinging from every Lampost!

    Tomorrow, you can Bet Your Bottom Dollar that the Dollar will Bottom!

    Tomorrow, Lead will be more valuable than Gold.

    Tomorrow, the Galloping Zombie Gourmet will publish recipes for Brains au Jus.

    The Day AFTER Tomorrow will be a BETTER Tomorrow!

    Don’t sweat the small stuff. :)



    2nd January 2013 at 5:49 am

  14. Old Buck says:

    Hit a grand slam homer first at bat in the new year


    2nd January 2013 at 6:34 am

  15. acjitsu says:

    I’m blown away by this essay. Just absolutely amazing writing. Very well done !


    2nd January 2013 at 7:42 am

  16. Nonanonymous says:

    Flash, you can add the $23.7 T to the over $200 T in unfunded entitlements the US faces over the next generation or so. Does anyone know the time span of these entitlement calculations, is it 2050? I know within the next 20 years is when the wheels come off, that debt overtakes the ability to pay even the interest on it.

    The current system of corruption is in a tizzy, each oligarch trying to out do the other in looting the national treasury.

    My solution is easy, go over the cliff and vote against raising the debt ceiling. Then we can discuss how to “invest” revenue. Take back the printing presses from the fed, print $16T and pay off the national debt, Tell the rentier capitalists “thank you, not so very much”. Reform entitlements, potentially nationalizing all pensions and retirement accounts and put everyone, including the USCON on medicare. Pass a balanced budget amendment to the constitution with a super majority required to pass any increase in taxes.

    Ron Paul would have gone a long way toward bringing fiscal reform to the federal government. The american people want none of it, they are comfortably numb.


    2nd January 2013 at 8:14 am

  17. Jiggerjuice says:

    72 inch tvs now… Over the years, the excess of America was measurable by the number of inches Jim said your excessive televisions have as diagonals.

    My television and I are feeling inadequate, wasn’t it just last year 52 was the standard measure of excess? I always prided myself on being ahead of the curve, until today…

    Thanks for another great article, Mr Quinn. Look forward to seeing it on ZeroHedge again in a day or two.


    2nd January 2013 at 8:22 am

  18. Histerian says:

    Great Article,
    Right on most ! I only have one problem with your still passing on the unproven lies against the German people with this “Nazi Holocaust” fable. When you were making a point with these lines: “Milgram started his experiments in 1961, shortly after the trial of the World War II criminal Adolph Eichmann had begun. Eichmann’s defense that he was simply following orders when he exterminated millions of Jews roused Milgram’s interest. How could millions of Germans participate and condone such genocide? Milgram’s testing suggested that it could have been that the millions of accomplices were merely following orders, despite violating their deepest moral beliefs.”

    You didn’t even bother to correct the lies. There is no evidence of millions of Jews being burned by the Germans during WW2.
    I really enjoyed your article. You point out the enemy, and its objectives. You show how they manipulate our thoughts. Like the part of “No WMD in Iraq”. Yet you use unproven propaganda about Germany to further your statements that people will do anything, even the most degenerate actions under orders.
    Thanks again for the article. I will pass it on.


    2nd January 2013 at 8:27 am

  19. Administrator says:


    2nd January 2013 at 8:33 am

  20. flash says:

    Nonanonymous, your solution assumes we’ve not already gone off some mythical cliff and can somehow recover from our current free-fall into currency collapse and be returned to national fiscal sanity as if startled suddenly from the depths of a terrible nightmare.

    Prepare for sudden impact, starting with disarming the individual.


    2nd January 2013 at 8:42 am

  21. marabunta says:

    Its the insipid blandness that overwhelms what kills the human soul.


    2nd January 2013 at 9:12 am

  22. Olga says:

    Another remarkable essay – thank you.

    I will forward it but I’m afraid most won’t read it – they will look at the number of words and move on to something more amusing.

    Or they will find the subject too unfathomable, arcane, “historical” and conspiratorial – for the most part they may not be intellectually primed to either understand the references and implications – or not curious enough to educate themselves – and these are people loaded down with degrees.

    Turning off the TV (and other media) was one of the best things I did for myself – but it does isolate one from the societal ambiance and milieu and with each passing day I am further removed from the mainstream.

    So whether it’s the Fed, fiat, Bernays, the media, the unwinnable wars on drugs/poverty/terror, inflation or 9/11, watching people visualize the tinfoil hat on my head while I speak can be draining ….


    2nd January 2013 at 9:20 am

  23. ragman says:

    Admin: simply the best of your best! We have become a country of “Summer soldiers and Sunshine Patriots” as Thomas Paine famously said in his pamphlet entitled “The Crisis”. Unfortunately, we will shrink from our Constitutional duty to capture and hang these fuckers. The next big Red, White and Blue dick to be shoved up our asses will be DiFi’s new gun prohibition bill. It will be the next step in the process of disarming the American Citizenry, a process that must be completed for the elites to have total control over us.


    2nd January 2013 at 9:30 am

  24. mahatma says:

    excellent article. sadly it is all too real. another roger waters song, amused to death, explains how we got here and sums up our predicament:

    “We watched the tragedy unfold. We did as we were told. We bought and sold.
    It was the greatest show on earth. But then it was over.”
    Roger Waters (Amused to Death)


    2nd January 2013 at 9:54 am

  25. flash says:

    admin, here’s a timely Irish ditty that deserves it’s own post.
    I’d post it , but I can never get WP to accept YouTube imbeds.

    Happy New Year to you and yours and to all TBPers as well!


    2nd January 2013 at 9:58 am

  26. j-dub says:

    Let me tell those who are serious about resistance, that they have no fear. When you’re cause is just and you believe in it, only the most brutal of the brutes do not shower you with admiration. Let me tell one story in which the TSA agent wanted to beat me senseless for do nothing other than opening my mouth.
    He could have beaten me senseless and he wanted to. He was 6’2 and 250lbs if he was an inch. I saw it in his eyes, the hate. I have rarely seen such hate. I have also never have been so blindly unafraid. I opted out of the airport scan and told TSA that I have been trhough the pat down many times before and then, when the pat down started, verbally assaulted him with my beliefs that he is not actually not protecting anyone. He grew angrier and began groping me with force. Forever undeterred, I started telling him how I liked it and that I hope he likes it as much as I do. Things like that, but no profanity. Only humor. But apparenly not his kind of humor because he grabbed my inner thighs and outer groin with such force that I winced in agony. He told me he didn’t need this and that he used to be an NYC cop and he didn’t enjoy what he was doing. I looked right at him and told him that I have been doing this since 2010 and that I do this every time and that I will not stop. That this does not belong in America. His faced turned from vengeful leopard to deer in the headlights in 2 seconds flat. He realized I am not giving him a hard time, but am giving the decrepid system the hardest time I can give. He saw I was or at least I believed I was, a patriot. He looked at me with awe and admiration for about another 2 seconds and saluted me. I instantly felt no more ill will for him.
    The story is true. I hope to top that story in the coming year with another human connection based on the foundations of patriotism.


    2nd January 2013 at 10:35 am

  27. Nonanonymous says:

    Flash, there’s plenty of discussion about what gun confiscation means, there may be token attempts to that end, but it’s logistically damn near impossible.

    Look at the collapse of any post modern society, lead is more valuable than gold. There’s no way any self respecting individual will comply with illegal orders to surrender arms.

    If what you say is true, that we’re in free fall and there’s nothing to do except hit the ground, you still haven’t addressed what happens next. Presumably, as Herr Stuck has surmised, the sun will rise on a new day.

    Not to neglect the spiritual aspect,

    “The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne.” Revelation 3:21 (ESV)

    And not to leave any room for interpretation,

    “Who is it that overcomes the world except the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?” 1 John 5:5 (ESV)

    So, it is belief in God’s Word which conquers and will conquer. It is God’s Word which Satan is intent on destroying, by any means available, including destroying the greatest nation the world has ever seen, and should be resisted at every turn.

    So, Flash, is all hope lost? Nay, hope is not lost. It rests in the eternal God.


    2nd January 2013 at 10:49 am

  28. ThePessimisticChemist says:

    Excellent article.


    “Today the vast majority of households require both parents to work in order to just tread water. Child rearing was delegated to the state and parents have been kept in a constant state of exhaustion, like hamsters in a cage on a spinning wheel. Household income was replaced by credit card debt, mortgage debt, auto debt, and student loan debt peddled by our very own Inner Party (Wall Street bankers). The Inner Party members have seen their incomes soar over the last four decades. This was not an accident.”

    I think this is the one that hit me hardest. I work and work and work…but feel like I have zero to show for it. Our entire life plan for the next few years revolves around paying off our credit card (she rang it up before we got married) and student loan debt.

    I think I’ve got her convinced to quit her job the moment her loans are over. Unfortunately this “work until you drop” mentality has been so programmed into our society that the people are policing themselves.

    I’m a sexist for wanting her to be able to quit working. She’s lazy for wanting to quit working to raise our kids. Even her own parents give her shit about it and tell her to grow up.

    Lets face it, Shit is fucked up and shit, and its only going to get worse before it gets better.


    2nd January 2013 at 10:55 am

  29. HINT: The Answer Is “NO!” says:



    2nd January 2013 at 11:09 am

  30. Thinker says:

    Only idiots trust this government:

    Obama begins second term facing pessimistic public: Poll
    AP, January 2, 2013

    As President Barack Obama heads into his second term, he faces a pessimistic and weary public, according to a USA Today/Gallup poll released late Tuesday.

    The percentage of Americans satisfied with the direction of the country stands at a paltry 23 percent in a poll taken Dec. 14-17. By a margin of 50 to 47 percent, respondents said the country’s best years are over.

    Fifty percent of respondents said it is somewhat or very unlikely that today’s youth will have a better life than their parents.

    That pessimism and negativity extends to the president, according to the poll.

    When respondents were asked to choose adjectives to describe their feelings about the president’s re-election, the poll showed the excitement and pride many Americans felt about the president’s first term has diminished.

    Sixty-seven percent of respondents in November 2008 said they felt optimistic about the president’s election and the same percentage said it made them feel proud. Last month those numbers fell to 52 percent for optimistic and 48 percent for proud. Forty-three percent of Americans surveyed also said they feel pessimistic about the president’s re-election and 36 percent said it made them feel afraid—both increases from 2008.

    The president’s approval rating, however, hovered at the 50 percent threshold in the USA Today/Gallup survey. This is 1 percentage point above George W. Bush as he headed into his second term, but below the 58 percent rating held by Bill Clinton and 59 percent held by Ronald Reagan.

    The poll’s margin of error was plus or minus 4 percentage points.


    2nd January 2013 at 11:32 am

  31. Thinker says:



    2nd January 2013 at 11:34 am

  32. Stephen says:

    A very interesting and informative article. I believe the system has been corrupted and gets worse by the day. See links below.


    2nd January 2013 at 11:42 am

  33. Concerned Millenial says:

    I’ve been reading Admin’s posts for some time now, and I agree with all of his main points throughout each post. I’m in my early 20s, and kids my age are perpetuating the submissiveness that has entrenched our society. Although there is a small minority following of Dr. Ron Paul, my peers continue to believe the bullshit spewed out from the national media and continue to treat Obama as some type of savior. it’s frustrating, embarassing, and, ultimately, extremely concering for me. Alternative Media truly is our last form to spread and seek the truth. Us Millenials have been told what, and how, to think our entire lives. Frankly, I don’t know if there is any hope of a change in power. It really is a helpless feeling. We’re so very misguided, but the internet is our last frontier to provide the truth, and the gubmint is in the process of taking away our freedom on here. It sucks.


    2nd January 2013 at 12:29 pm

  34. Administrator says:


    2nd January 2013 at 12:31 pm

  35. Administrator says:

    “It does not take a majority to prevail… but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”

    Samuel Adams


    2nd January 2013 at 1:07 pm

  36. Administrator says:

    “You are a slow learner, Winston.”
    “How can I help it? How can I help but see what is in front of my eyes? Two and two are four.”
    “Sometimes, Winston. Sometimes they are five. Sometimes they are three. Sometimes they are all of them at once. You must try harder. It is not easy to become sane.”

    ― George Orwell, 1984


    2nd January 2013 at 1:14 pm

  37. Administrator says:

    “I saw a little boy, perhaps ten years old, driving a huge cart-horse along a narrow path, whipping it whenever it tried to turn. It struck me that if only such animals became aware of their strength we should have no power over them, and that men exploit animals in much the same way as the rich exploit the proletariat.”

    George Orwell


    2nd January 2013 at 1:20 pm

  38. Administrator says:

    Concerned Millenial

    Millenials are our only hope. The older generations are too tired or too dependent upon the existing social order to affect change. We need enough bright, revolutionary minded, liberty seeking Millenials to turn the tide. I’m glad to see 20 year olds reading TBP. That gives me hope.


    2nd January 2013 at 12:34 pm

  39. OF says:

    You gotta stop writing those articles. The skin´s coming off my hands from applauding.

    What about an essay anthology as a book?


    2nd January 2013 at 12:33 pm

  40. Me No Likey says:

    You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.

    A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history.

    You can chain me, you can torture me, you can even destroy this body, but you will never imprison my mind.

    What is true of the individual will be tomorrow true of the whole nation if individuals will but refuse to lose heart and hope.

    When I despair, I remember that all through history the ways of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants, and murderers, and for a time they can seem invincible, but in the end they always fall. Think of it–always.

    Mahatma Gandhi


    2nd January 2013 at 12:43 pm

  41. AWD says:


    Barry ‘Bama had a farm
    And on that farm he had some sheep

    With a tax tax here
    And a spend spend there
    Here a tax
    There a tax
    Everywhere a tax tax

    Barry ‘Bama had a farm


    2nd January 2013 at 12:58 pm

  42. ThePessimisticChemist says:

    @Admin – The only way millenials will rise to the challenge is if a small cadre of us grab the rest by the balls, and force them to acknowledge that our parents were sold a lie.

    In order to over come the debt accumulated by our predecessors Millenials absolutely MUST vote 100% in favor of fiscal responsibility (Ron Paul ideals).

    I think its going to be possible, just difficult. Using lots of very small words and crayon drawings people like us are going to have to show my generation that we cannot carry on like we have been.

    I think the hardest thing to teach people is going to be that life is no fair.

    Everybody wants their cake, and to eat it too. Thats just not going to happen. The post war era spoiled our nation and now the babies don’t want to grow the fuck up.

    The path to redemption is clear, only time will tell if our nation has the courage to walk it.


    2nd January 2013 at 1:07 pm

  43. BUCKHED says:

    Gahdi…murdered because he did own a gun.

    He did say..that the British disarming the people was a dark period of its history.

    “Among the many misdeeds of British rule in India, history will look
    upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.


    2nd January 2013 at 1:16 pm

  44. BUCKHED says:

    Didn’t own a gun


    2nd January 2013 at 1:19 pm

  45. Nonanonymous says:

    PC, try convincing your parents they were sold a lie. The message isn’t lost on native Americans. The feds broke every treaty they ever made with them.

    Do the feds want to hear they’re a pack of GD liars? Doesn’t change the facts, and no amount of coercion ever will.


    2nd January 2013 at 1:38 pm

  46. Nonanonymous says:

    Me No Likey, are you trying to get on the DHS watch list?

    You can’t post quotes from Gandhi!


    2nd January 2013 at 1:39 pm

  47. ThePessimisticChemist says:

    @Non “PC, try convincing your parents they were sold a lie.”

    I’ve been working on my father lately. He was born in ’64, so by most measures he is a late Boomer. Unlike most of his brethren he has been remarkably responsible from a fiscal and family standpoint, but the main problem is that he did 20 years in the military and considers himself a true patriot.

    Which means I’m undoing 40 years worth of public education each time we talk. He’s a fiscal conservative, but convincing him that US foreign policy has been a sham since the early 1800s is taking quite a bit more work.

    Also, it doesn’t feel good from my point of view. Destroying my father’s sunny view of America’s past has been fun for neither of us.


    2nd January 2013 at 1:43 pm

  48. mahatma says:

    “Mother should I trust the government?”

    The documentary ‘Innocents Betrayed’ answers that question with the following:

    “What happens when self-defense is against the law? What happens when the protectors become the predators? What happens when innocents are betrayed?

    Imagine that 2/3 of all Americans disappear. 170 million people. Or that the countries of Germany, France and Spain are virtually wiped off the map. 170 million people, gone.

    In the 20th century that’s how many innocents were slaughtered, tortured, starved, mutilated, worked to death, bayoneted, hanged, annihilated. At the hands of their governments.

    They had no means to defend themselves.”

    Innocents Betrayed:


    2nd January 2013 at 1:51 pm

  49. Concerned Millenial says:


    I believe in that Samuel Adams quote. That quote sums up how our country was founded. I’m not ready to give up or lose hope. Millenials will have to be the catalysts to the change, but definitely would need help from the generation ahead of us. I believe in humanity, even though it is increasingly harder to with each passing day. But, the more the fiasco plays out in DC, and the older we get, I think we will realize all of the bullshit that has been going on for decades now and hopefully we will do something about it. Websites like this NEED to stay in place, and the posts and opinions on here are absolutely critical for the minds who don’t follow what they are told. A side note, in my college classrooms, it was disgusting how liberal minded EVERY professor I had was. The methods of learning were for us to regurgitate the bullshit they jammed down our throats. I think the schooling system has a larger amount of propaganda sway then we give it credit for. If you questioned a professor of their methods in a higher institution of learning, I can assure you that you would be met with ridicule. But, hey, still gotta fight on, right?


    2nd January 2013 at 2:17 pm

  50. Olga says:

    re: “sold a lie”

    Try using one of those CPI inflation apps where you enter in a year and an amount and it gives you the amount in inflation adjusted dollars for another year (ex food and fuel?) – It can be an eye-opener.

    I am still trying to wrap my head around government sanctioned inflation, the mindset behind its existence and who benefits and why.

    Also – waking people up implies telling them they were asleep, irresponsible and manipulated and that rarely goes over well. Very few people have a healthy enough ego to accept they’ve been fooled for years.

    And that is part of the control – the fear of thinking differently has been the absolute success behind the “conspiracy kook” label – just bandy that label around and see who shuts down, stops any critical thinking and goes running towards the closest group of sheeple.

    Crowd control is has old as any ancient culture – getting a much larger group to follow the will of a much, MUCH smaller group requires either some tremendous psychological skills or abundant military force – or both – and mind control is cheaper in the long run.


    2nd January 2013 at 2:23 pm

  51. AWD says:

    Great stuff, most concise article yet, in my opinion. The lies and bullshit are out in the open now, it can’t be hidden. Every action by the criminal politicians results in more debt, bigger government, and more power to the elites. The rest is just a side show. The middle class continues to pay the price (what’s left of it).

    Debt will cause a collapse, there’s no way around the debt; but instead of a reset, will result in a complete and utter power grab by the ruling elites, worldwide. I have to believe it’s been planned on some level. Our ultimate tyrannical leader will be Jamie Dimon or Blankfein. JPM and Goldman Sachs run entire countries now, thanks to “appointed” leaders and financial strings attached to bailouts. The men behind the curtain will come into plain view. Even people who follow blogs and truth probably only know 1/3 of the crime, corruption, looting, graft, and control of markets and politicians that is going on.

    It deserves to go down, all of it, and it will. The hubris of the elites will be their ultimate folly. It’s happened before, all through history, and it will happen again. People living in cities, since the time of the Romans, have had it the worst when things collapse. The Jews that got out of the cities and hid in the countryside were not slaughtered or gassed. Many were smart and rich enough to get out of the country while there was still time (a topic that always gets play at TBP).

    You can see what is coming a mile away. If you just stand there and wait for it to hit, then you may die prematurely, and you will most certainly be a victim. I cannot warn people strongly enough about getting out of the cities. All throughout history the city folk were bombed, imprisoned, slaughtered, gassed, rounded up and forced into all sorts of slavery and pain. Nothing can you do to prepare for what is coming is simpler than just getting out of the cities. Most people will not, however, and will be victimized a thousand different ways. Oh well, you’ve been warned.


    2nd January 2013 at 2:26 pm

  52. lhamick says:

    Let me add something to this truthful and accurate account.

    It is possible that additional weapons against the masses are developed which contribute to extreme weather events.
    These events serve to add worry to the masses via anticipatory fear plus if actually affected, it dislocates large groups of people and it further condemns the poor to more misery.


    2nd January 2013 at 2:29 pm

  53. Anonymous says:

    Nonanonymous , you made my point , it ain’t all about the money or the debt…there exist a freedom versus security question as well.

    If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen. –Samuel Adams


    2nd January 2013 at 3:13 pm

  54. AWD says:

    The criminals in Washington created 30,000 new laws last year.

    How will these laws ever be rescinded? along with the 500,000 laws and regulations already on the books? The Constitution (which is being shredded daily) was 3 pages.



    2nd January 2013 at 3:33 pm

  55. flash says:

    Another fitting albeit less famous song from the past which eerily paints a dystopian future.

    Swear allegiance to the flag
    Whatever flag they offer
    Never hint at what you really feel
    Teach the children quietly
    For some day sons and daughters
    Will rise up and fight while we stood still


    2nd January 2013 at 3:35 pm

  56. AWD says:

    Bin Laden said in an interview before 9/11 that he was “going to make America a shadow of it’s former self”. He succeeded and then some.

    Congrats to Admin for mentioning the “Patriot Act”, which opened Pandora’s box and unleashed state-sponsored fascism and descent into statist rule. Then Obama, who institutionalized socialism and continued the massive loss of our freedom and destruction of the Constitution.



    2nd January 2013 at 3:49 pm

  57. AKAnon says:

    TPC said “I’ve been working on my father lately. He was born in ’64, so by most measures he is a late Boomer.” By most measures (pure demographics), he would be a Baby Boomer. However, by Strauss & Howe’s generational theory, he is an Xer or 13er (born after 1960). The topic of numerous debates here (mostly by Boomer deniers trying to drag the older Xers into their club).


    2nd January 2013 at 4:33 pm

  58. Novista says:

    Concerned Millenial

    Thank you for your comment. Key lesson: “Us Millenials have been told what, and how, to think our entire lives.” Too many people just.don’ and maybe that’s because they think today is just like their yesterday.

    Don’t despair of many of your peers, remember all it takes is 3% to make a difference.


    2nd January 2013 at 5:23 pm

  59. ragman says:

    flash: great stuff, thanks for the heads up. The whole idea is to disarm the great unwashed(us) but allow the elites and their bodyguards to keep their weapons. That’s what’s coming, folks. That is if we allow it!


    2nd January 2013 at 6:01 pm

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  63. Pirate Jo says:

    “You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.”

    If the majority of drops in the ocean are dirty, should we consider the minority of drops to be clean?

    I’d say what those clean drops need is a way to get away from the rest of the ocean. Like a pond, or something.


    2nd January 2013 at 9:35 pm

  64. the_pyramid_thing_with_the_eye says:

    Propaganda (1928)
    by Edward Bernays

    The full book.


    2nd January 2013 at 9:57 pm

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  66. Administrator says:

    It looks like my ban from Lew Rockwell has been lifted. He posted this article today.

    Thanks Lew.


    3rd January 2013 at 7:44 am

  67. flash says:

    …saw that too, admin…gave me a big O’ smile.



    3rd January 2013 at 8:00 am

  68. Yojimbo says:

    This article was mentioned on a prisonplanet video:


    3rd January 2013 at 8:58 am

  69. Administrator says:


    They contacted me to interview me over Skype. I didn’t think it was a good idea.


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  71. harry p. says:

    between the exposure of this article and the billboard around Boston the message from TBP is going to be louder than normal early in 2013, and a lot of people are going to be put on the list of dissidents; oh well… most people here are likely on them anyway, maybe “stars” will get added next to the names
    getting exposure to those site is good though, it brings fresh monkeys in, I found this site years ago from admins articles being posted on financial sense.


    3rd January 2013 at 11:09 am

  72. Liberty Freemind says:

    This is a masterpiece! I will share for sure. I sincerely hope that this article will inspire other liberty lovers to keep spreading the truth. This article is indeed an “atomic bomb” of truth, but I think that millions of smaller venues need to to keep spreading the liberty virus before we will see a turning point. Honestly, it is the liberty thinkers who must be ready to pull the weight once the system collapses on its own accord. Let’s be ready.


    3rd January 2013 at 11:27 am

  73. Deacon Blues says:

    A Great Article & Some Very Interesting Comments, Thank You Very Much!

    An old Native American saying:

    “361 treaties have been made and 361 treaties have been broken.”

    Why is it that the U.S govenment has broken every single treaty made with the Native Americans?

    Some answers to that question can be found at:

    John Trudell~ “Trudell”~ A Film By: Heather Rae


    3rd January 2013 at 12:04 pm

  74. Administrator says:

    “The man who is admired for the ingenuity of his larceny is almost always rediscovering some earlier form of fraud. The basic forms are all known, have all been practiced.

    The manners of capitalism improve. The morals may not…

    When the modern corporation acquires power over markets, power in the community, power over the state and power over belief, it is a political instrument, different in degree but not in kind from the state itself. To hold otherwise — to deny the political character of the modern corporation — is not merely to avoid the reality. It is to disguise the reality.

    The victims of that disguise are those we instruct in error. The beneficiaries are the institutions whose power we so disguise. Let there be no question: economics, so long as it is thus taught, becomes, however unconsciously, a part of the arrangement by which the citizen or student is kept from seeing how he or she is, or will be, governed…

    The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking.”

    John Kenneth Galbraith


    3rd January 2013 at 2:51 pm

  75. Administrator says:



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  77. Davido says:

    Exceptional clarity. Thank you for the great service of educating your readers.

    Jim, You’ve come a long way in your thinking since this blog was started.

    Like our understanding, the times of trouble are still building -and may yet span multiple generations. We’d all wish for resolution to be quicker. Patrick Henry spoke well,

    “If there must be trouble let it be in my time, that my child may know peace.”


    3rd January 2013 at 9:25 pm

  78. Davido says:

    Excuse me, it was Thomas Paine who in speaking of his times said, “Not a man lives on the continent but fully believes that a separation must some time or other finally take place, and a generous parent should have said, “If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child may have peace;” and this single reflection, well applied, is sufficient to awaken every man to duty.” From “The Crisis”


    3rd January 2013 at 11:54 pm

  79. Anon says:


    It’s all a fraud. The “War on Drugs” – a FRAUD. (The OSS/CIA was created by the ‘Old Boys’, Central Bankers, and the ‘Old Boys’ LAUNDER the profits from the CIA controlled global drug trade, in their offshore banking facilities). The “War on Terror” – a FRAUD. (Again, the Central Banker created CIA, in turn, created ‘Al-Qaeda’ as the bogey-man du jour, in the newly created “war on terror”, to scare up more funding for bogus agencies like DHS and TSA, and take not only more of Americans’ money, but also their GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS! The FBI just finds, then sets up “terrorist” patsies, with bombs and plans, then, right at the last minute foils the plans, and uses the patsy for more MSM (Main Stream Media) propaganda for the “war on terror”). ‘AGW’ or ‘global warming’ – a FRAUD. Look, in the 1970′s Scientists were saying we are heading for a NEW ICE AGE! C’mon folks, seriously, wake the F#@$ UP! The “Fiscal Cliff” – a FRAUD. Look, if NOTHING is done, the U.S. National Debt will be $25.8 Trillion, by 2022. Under Obama’s Plan, it would be $25.4 Trillion. Under Boehner’s Plan, it would be $25.2 Trillion. It’s all total political theatre, to distract you from something else – something else they are also doing, right now, by sleight of hand. WAKE UP!

    Look, the Central Banker orchestrated economic collapse now unfolding, and the ‘austerity’ that is to come, are the PRIMARY reason, why the Obama Administration is ramping up its push for “gun control”. They KNOW they need to disarm the public, if they are to be successful, at 1) Completely collapsing the U.S. Economy, with no criminal prosecutions, 2) Imposing “austerity” measures (more fraudulent debt) on the backs of the American public, 3) Surviving the coming collapse themselves, with assets intact, and 4) Coming out the other side of the collapse, smelling like a rose, with assets intact, no criminal prosecutions, and STILL IN CONTROL! IT’S ALL ABOUT CONTROL – OVER YOU! “War on Drugs”, “War on Terror” , “AGW”, “Fiscal Cliff” – it’s all just ONE MEME – gaining more control over YOU! Look, the ‘war on drugs’ and the ‘war on terror’ is a WAR ON ~ YOU! What do they ALWAYS talk about in relation to ‘AGW’ or ‘global warming’ – GLOBAL GOVERNANCE!, right? N.W.O. “Gun Control” is about controlling – YOU.

    The ONLY GOD-GIVEN RIGHTS they can “take” away from you, are those YOU FAIL TO EXERCISE!


    An Open Letter to Members of Congress…


    The ‘global’ economy as currently configured, is the greatest, largest, most successful PONZI-SCHEME, ever invented, by any one, anywhere, at any time, on the face of this Earth. It’s a great racket, and they don’t want it to end.


    4th January 2013 at 3:01 am

  80. Anon says:

    What can we DO, about it?

    There are actually plenty of things we can do. BOYCOTT. Learn this concept well, and employ it, against those enslaving you. Think for yourself. Turn off the idiot box, or better still – throw it away! Question all so-called “authority”. Get out, or stay out, of DEBT! Use CASH as much as possible. Bank at a local credit union. IF you are still banking with a TBTF (“Too-Big-To-Fail”) Bank, that participated in the 2008 Banker Bailouts, then your behavior is part of the problem, not part of the solution. VOTE WITH YOUR DOLLARS! What do you support with your time, energy, attention, and money? Contact your PUBLIC SERVANTS (Representatives) on critical issues, such as END THE FED! Re-read the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. It isn’t about hunting. It’s about government tyranny, and protecting yourself from it. Buy (new) products Made in the U.S.A. Buy ORGANIC food! Support your local Organic Farmer, food store or Co-op! Start your own garden using NON-GMO, non-hybrid seeds! Pray or meditate – reduce your stress! Read a book, you know, an actual book! Open your mind! Exercise your brain muscle! Listen to soothing classical, jazz, ambient or other music you thoroughly enjoy! CUT BACK ON OIL AND GAS CONSUMPTION! Take a high-quality daily multi-vitamin! Expand this list, and share it with everyone you know!


    4th January 2013 at 3:03 am

  81. Anon says:

    Petition Demands Obama Turn In All His Guns


    4th January 2013 at 3:04 am

  82. Administrator says:

    “Hell begins the day that God grants you the vision to see all that you could have done, should have done, and would have done, but did not do.”

    Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832)


    4th January 2013 at 8:01 am

  83. Dutch says:

    Wham! That is some truth right there. Amazing article. Impeccably written and referenced and terrifyingly accurate. Greed, powerlust and oppression are powerful forces, but they will crumble under the weight of an idea whose time has come.

    When the man with one hand in your pocket is faced with fifteen baseball bats aimed at his head we’ll all know who really has the power. This could happen as soon as tomorrow if people could just be jerked from their collective sleepwalk. Hopefully it happens sometime soon. In any case it will be this kind of truth that brings it about. Kudos!

    And thanks to flash for posting the gayest, most pathetic picture ever. Word of warning kids: Steroids cause hair loss in 7 of 11 men, and chest hair loss and metrosexuality in 11 of 11.


    4th January 2013 at 12:11 pm

  84. Anonymous says:

    When will We the People say enough is enough and make a stand? I wounder how many freedoms will will trade for entitlements? Will we have to be starving and enslaved for people to stand up for freedom?


    5th January 2013 at 12:41 am

  85. zap says:

    A worthwhile article dear author. Now that we are all disillusioned, perhaps we can work on taking action to navigate and survive in a decent manner the growing shitestorm?

    I’m rolling up my sleeves now.


    5th January 2013 at 8:20 am

  86. Deacon Blues says:

    Can You Trust This Government?

    “Deciphering Goverment Thought Crimes”


    5th January 2013 at 12:37 pm

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  88. arthur says:

    “Mother Should I Trust The Government?

    Answer: Yes, Honey, if its pro-White, otherwise no.


    6th January 2013 at 3:53 am

  89. flash says:

    Ecclesiastes 1:9
    9 What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.

    Spengler’s Ominous Prophecy
    Spengler, by contrast, embraced a view of history as the story of various discrete civilizations, each with its own distinct culture, that emerged, developed, flowered and then declined. This cyclical view subsumes certain underlying perceptions. First, since civilizations and cultures are distinct, there can be no universal culture. No body of thought emanating from one culture can be imposed upon another, either peacefully or through force. And civilizational decline is an immutable rule that applies to all civilizations, including the West.

    The passion for creative expression and new strains of culture knowledge runs on for centuries, generally a thousand years or more unless interrupted by external forces. But eventually it peters out. Then begins that civilizational phase, characterized by the deterioration of the folk traditions and innocent enthusiasms of the culture. Its cultural essence, once of the soil and spread throughout the “mother-region” in town, village and city, now becomes the domain of a few rich and powerful “world-cities,” which twist and distort the concepts of old and replace them with cynicism, cosmopolitanism, irony and a money culture.

    He also predicted the West’s coming decline in birthrates brought about largely by the advent of feminism, also a feature of Spengler’s civilizational phase. Whereas the advent and success of feminism in the West is heralded in our time as a sign of civic progress, Spengler’s study of other civilizational cycles convinced him that it was just the opposite—a reflection of cultural decline, largely because it curtailed the production of children. As he puts it:

    The primary woman, the peasant woman, is mother. The whole vocation towards which she has yearned from childhood is included in that one word. But now emerges the Ibsen woman, the comrade, the heroine of a whole megalopolitan literature from Northern drama to Parisian novel. Instead of children, she has soul-conflicts; marriage is a craft-art for the achievement of “mutual understanding.” It is all the same whether the case against children is the American lady’s who would not miss a season for anything, or the Parisienne’s who fears that her lover would leave her, or an Ibsen heroine’s who “lives for herself”—they all belong to themselves and they are all unfruitful.

    This phenomenon, says Spengler, is seen in every society in transition from the cultural to the civilizational phase, and in all instances it leads to what he calls “appalling depopulation.” Spengler saw a similar phenomenon in the realm of politics. Looking at Athens of 400 bc and Caesar’s Rome, he sees a progressive degradation:

    As everywhere, the elections, from being nominations of class-representatives, have become the battle-ground of party candidates, an area ready for the intervention of money, and . . . of ever bigger and bigger money. “The greater became the wealth which was capable of concentration in the hands of individuals, the more the fight for political power developed into a question of money.”

    But what most clearly marks the civilizational phase is what he considered the inevitable gravitation toward Caesarism and empire. Spengler’s historical analogies taught him that the transition from culture to civilization unleashes a kind of Will to Power, manifest internally in a drive to consolidate power within the civilization, and externally in a drive to assert dominance over other peoples. “Imperialism,” writes Spengler, “is Civilization unadulterated.” Before pursuing the intriguing questions unleashed by this provocative perception, we must explore first his historical analogies as they apply to the great civilizations of world history.


    6th January 2013 at 10:46 am

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  92. Stucky says:

    This is a pretty long article.

    It’s mostly for Admin. I wonder if you/TBP are on some FBI/gub’ment list?


    State of Fear
    January 7, 2013
    Print Version

    By Chris Hedges

    Shannon McLeish of Florida is a 45-year-old married mother of two young children. She is a homeowner, a taxpayer and a safe driver. She votes in every election. She attends a Unitarian Universalist church on Sundays. She is also, like nearly all who have a relationship with the Occupy movement in the United States, being monitored by the federal government. She knows this because when she read FBI documents obtained by the Partnership for Civil Justice Fund (PCJF) through the Freedom of Information Act, she was startled to see a redaction that could only be referring to her. McLeish’s story is the story of hundreds of thousands of people—perhaps more—whose lives are being invaded by the state. It is the story of a security and surveillance apparatus—overseen by the executive branch under Barack Obama—that has empowered the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security to silence the voices and obstruct the activity of citizens who question corporate power.

    Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, executive director of the PCJF, said in a written statement about the released files: “This production [of information], which we believe is just the tip of the iceberg, is a window into the nationwide scope of the FBI’s surveillance, monitoring, and reporting on peaceful protesters organizing with the Occupy movement. These documents show that the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security are treating protests against the corporate and banking structure of America as potential criminal and terrorist activity. These documents also show these federal agencies functioning as a de facto intelligence arm of Wall Street and Corporate America.”

    The FBI documents are not only a chilling example of how widespread this surveillance and obstruction has become, they are an explicit warning by the security services to all who consider dissent. Anyone who defies corporate power, even if he or she is nonviolent and acting within constitutional rights, is a suspect. These documents are part of the plan to make us fearful, compliant and disempowered. They mark, I suspect, a government attempt to end peaceful mass protests by responding with repression to the grievances of Americans. When the corporate-financed group FreedomWorks bused in goons to disrupt Democratic candidates’ town hall meetings about the federal health care legislation in August 2009, Eric Zuesse of the Business Insider notes, “there was no FBI surveillance of those corporate-organized disruptions of legitimate democratic processes. There also were no subsequent FreedomWorks applications for Freedom of Information Act releases of FBI files regarding such surveillance being used against them—because there was no such FBI campaign against them.”

    The combination of intimidation tactics by right-wing fringe groups, which speak in the language of violence and hate, with the state’s massive intrusion into the personal affairs of the citizen is corporate fascism. And we are much farther down that road than many of us care to admit.

    “When activists took up relatively long-term residence in Zuccotti Park in New York City on Sept. 17 [in 2011], their message of outrage was a mirror to my own after we bailed out the banks with our tax dollars, then watched them get off scot-free without even a token attempt to help fix the wreckage they’d created,” McLeish told me over the phone when I called her home. “I personally lost considerable income and my retirement with the economic collapse, as well as more than half the value of my home. I could see the people around me struggling, too. I have friends, neighbors and family members that the banks refused to help, who lost their homes or were forced to pay for costly attorneys to defend themselves against fraudulent foreclosure attempts. People couldn’t sell their homes, as they were worth so much less than what they’d paid for them. Homes all over the area, including in my neighborhood right near the downtown [of Ormond Beach, Fla.], were abandoned due to the foreclosure crisis—and left to rot by the banks. Strip malls were emptied as businesses went bankrupt and closed their doors. More and more homeless people were wandering through the neighborhood—people you could tell had never been homeless, just by virtue of what and how much they carried with them. Families were sleeping behind big-box stores, and my area was featured on national news repeatedly for the number of homeless families.”

    “These are some of the things that prompted me to create a Facebook page for Occupy in my area in solidarity with the courageous activists camping in Zuccotti—the only group to fully give voice to what I saw as the issue: the corruption of pretty much everything from the economy to the environment to our social safety nets to our democratic system of governance due to corporate greed,” she said. “The message of OWS [Occupy Wall Street] resonated deeply and moved me to action.”

    The FBI documents obtained by the PCJF show that government security services began to monitor the activities of Occupy activists before the Zuccotti Park encampment was established. They revealed that when McLeish met with about 40 other activists in Daytona Beach, Fla., several undercover law enforcement officers were present.

    “None of them identified themselves as law enforcement to meeting attendees, though a Homeland Security agent approached me afterward, probably because I facilitated the meeting,” McLeish said. “When the agent approached me after the meeting, it was pretty unnerving. I decided the best way to deal with it was head on. I responded with, ‘I’m so glad you’re here! There’s a group making threats against us. I assume that’s why you’ve come.’ I think he was surprised. I don’t think he acknowledged knowing about the threats from an online gun group. He said he wanted to make sure we weren’t infiltrated by troublemakers. He asked if we’d meet with law enforcement to find out what we were allowed to do. I said I’d be happy to do so. He said he would check into the threats. He said he would put me in touch with someone from the Daytona Beach Police Department.”

    “I can’t remember exactly when we met with Daytona Beach Police Department the first time,” she said. “It could have been the next day or the day after. There were about six or seven of us, and I think it was three officers: Deputy Chief Ben Walton, who is now retired, and two other high-ranking officers. If I remember correctly, I pretty much began the discussion by stating that we were aware of our right to protest. We would be glad to coordinate as much as possible to make the Police Department’s job easier, but not to the point of infringing upon our rights.”

    “We agreed upon very low police presence—one to a few officers—on the basis of the threats made by the online gun group, but not for surveillance on citizens engaged in peaceful protest,” she said.

    The daylong event she and the other activists held on Oct. 15, 2011, was attended by more than 300 people. The past president of the local NAACP chapter spoke, as did a leader in the teachers union who was also a member of the school board, a couple of members of the postal union, the leader of a homeless coalition who was homeless himself, and a member of the Daytona State College Environmental Club. A female uniformed officer was present. McLeish noticed a man with a professional camera taking photographs of individual protesters in the crowd. She saw him later the same day amid several police officers. One officer confirmed that the photographer was with law enforcement but would not give more information, McLeish said.

    Daytona-area activists during the fall of 2011 continued to organize events, including sidewalk marches to banks. In most cases they notified the police in advance. At one big event, men in plain clothes and standing with folded arms surrounded a seated group as it held a teach-in.

    “It was extremely intimidating, not to mention the effect on people walking by who might have joined us if it weren’t for these heavy-handed tactics,” McLeish said.

    The local activists set up an Occupy encampment every weekend in December 2011.

    “There were no incidents of any kind,” McLeish said of the camp in Daytona. “No one spoke aggressively to an officer at any time. No one drank or used drugs. We had clearly posted rules to that effect at the camp. There was no violence whatsoever, verbal or physical—as was the case with any event we organized, and we had quite a lot of them. Further, we clearly expressed that while we would act in accordance with our rights, we would not violate any laws.”

    “Given the lengths we went to, you can imagine my dismay as I saw Daytona repeatedly mentioned in national news as one of the main areas under surveillance by the FBI, Homeland Security, as well as some unknown ‘private partner’ agency,” she said. “We were being investigated, according to the released FBI documents, as if we were a ‘terrorist’ group engaged in ‘criminal activity.’ I checked the released pages to see what could only be references to me—my name, age, and phone number. Though redacted, they indicate that any search of people connected with domestic terrorist groups is likely to turn up my name.”

    Since the spring of 2012 McLeish has co-hosted a morning radio show called “Air Occupy” (also streamed online) with Liz Myers and Jerry Bolkcom. They have interviewed, among others, Alexa O’Brien, the organizer of US Day of Rage, and Carl Mayer, the lead attorney in the case Hedges v. Obama, a challenge to the indefinite detention clause of the National Defense Authorization Act. Immediately after “Air Occupy” posted on YouTube the interview about the lawsuit against the NDAA, YouTube permanently banned the radio show on the ground of “violating community standards”—a ban that usually is imposed for graphic, violent or gory images or pornography. According to YouTube’s guidelines, a poster is allowed three “strikes” before an account is terminated. “Air Occupy” had received no notice of “strikes” or warnings of any kind from YouTube.

    McLeish worries about how being a target of FBI attention will affect her life. “Can the inclusion of my name and information on a federal law enforcement domestic terrorist watch list impact my ability to make a living and provide for my children?” she asked. “Can I be subject to retribution of some kind through the NDAA’s new provisions or to federal surveillance due to interviewing other activists or in addition to my involvement in Occupy protests? I can’t afford an attorney to protect myself.”

    “What does such surveillance and militarized response mean for our democratic system of governance as more and more people in our country and abroad struggle to survive and are moved to protest stark economic inequalities, mass unemployment and unfair working conditions, and impoverished living conditions?” she asked.


    7th January 2013 at 6:41 pm

  93. Administrator says:


    I’d be more surprised if TBP wasn’t on some FBI/DHS list.

    Some law enforcement officer is eating a donut and montitoring our comments right now.


    7th January 2013 at 7:30 pm

  94. Kill Bill says:

    Mother should I trust the government?

    A U.S. government safety agency wants electric and hybrid vehicles to make more noise when traveling at low speeds so pedestrians can hear them coming.

    The cars and trucks, which are far quieter than conventional gasoline or diesel-powered vehicles, don’t make enough noise at low speeds to warn walkers, bicyclists and the visually impaired, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Monday in a statement.

    The proposed rule would require the cars to make additional noise at speeds under 18 miles per hour (29 kph). NHTSA says the cars make enough noise to be heard at higher speeds.



    7th January 2013 at 7:16 pm

  95. flash says:

    try this….I haven’t, but am interested in feedback from any who do.


    7th January 2013 at 8:45 pm

  96. Mike- formerly from Altoona says:

    Here is a telling quote from one of the Orewellian former leaders of the U.S.—

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the US public believes is false.”
    -William J. Casey, 1981


    8th January 2013 at 4:57 pm

  97. ThePessimisticChemist says:

    Lately the line I have been getting from people has been that only unreasonable people do not comply with the government.

    My wife went to renew her driver’s license today, but was told she needed her SS card, Birth Certificate, Marriage License, a Pay stub and proof of residency in the form of a recent utilities bill.

    She has lived in this town her entire life, this is her third driver’s license.

    This coupled with the mortgage process and the fact that she ALWAYS gets picked to get groped by TSA (she’s 7/9 right now) has my wife about as angry with the system as she’s ever been.

    We complain about this to family friends and the response is unanimous: Yeah that sucks, but we go through it too so you should just deal with it.

    Have you guys been seeing this total compliance as well?


    8th January 2013 at 5:28 pm

  98. Pirate Jo says:


    That Spengler fellow sounds like a real douche. I’ve heard these stereotypes and insinuations time and time again. Fortunately, I enjoy a healthy sense of “don’t give a fuck what people think,” so tiresome little rants like these just make me roll my eyes:

    “Instead of children, she has soul-conflicts; marriage is a craft-art for the achievement of “mutual understanding.” It is all the same whether the case against children is the American lady’s who would not miss a season for anything, or the Parisienne’s who fears that her lover would leave her, or an Ibsen heroine’s who “lives for herself”—they all belong to themselves and they are all unfruitful.”

    It is interesting that in societies where women have more options and better education, they choose to have fewer children. Maybe because, given the choice to do something else, they often will. Are his much-vaunted “peasant women” paragons of virtue, or are they just trapped? In Saudi Arabia now, a lot of women are having to wear tracking devices, and their “owners” will be alerted if they get too far away. Even my dog doesn’t have one of those. We could certainly keep those birthrates up if we kept more women stuck in what is essentially slavery. But if that’s what it takes to breed more people, maybe it’s not worth doing.

    And maybe it’s not, anyway. When “be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth” was first written down, the earth wasn’t being throttled with 7 billion people, many of whom are hungry, have to fight over fresh water, and are drowning in their own filth. In other words, if someone told you to fill a cup with coffee, would you just keep pouring, long after the cup had overflowed and you had spilled coffee all over your kitchen counter? I mean enough, already. If being “fruitful” means adding to an existing problem, I’m happy not to be fruitful, and will happily ignore snotty jabs about “soul conflicts” or selfishness.

    Maybe he should spend his time writing letters of thanks to the members of the FSA, who have their own share of children, plus mine.


    8th January 2013 at 5:40 pm

  99. Thinker says:

    @PC: Yes.


    8th January 2013 at 6:06 pm

  100. flash says:

    PJ, spengler may be have been a true douche , but that doesn’t mean he was wrong about the coming Decline of the West …just as every Empire that came before.
    The Decline of the West (German: Der Untergang des Abendlandes), or The Downfall of the Occident, is a two-volume work by Oswald Spengler, the first volume of which was published in the summer of 1918. Spengler revised this volume in 1922 and published the second volume, subtitled Perspectives of World History, in 1923.

    The book introduces itself as a ‘Copernican overturning’ and rejects the Euro-centric view of history, especially the division of history into the linear “ancient-medieval-modern” rubric.[1] According to Spengler the meaningful units for history are not epochs but whole cultures which evolve as organisms. He acknowledges eight high cultures: Babylonian, Egyptian, Chinese, Indian, Mexican (Mayan/Aztec), Classical (Greek/Roman), Arabian, Western or “European-American”. Cultures have a limited lifespan of some thousand years. The final stage of each culture is, in his word use, a ‘civilization’.

    The book also presents the idea of Muslims, Jews and Christians, as well as their Persian and Semitic forebears, being Magian; Mediterranean cultures of the antiquity such as Ancient Greece and Rome being Apollonian; and the modern Westerners being Faustian.

    According to the theory, the Western world is actually ending and we are witnessing the last season – “winter time” – of the Faustian civilization. In Spengler’s depiction Western Man is a proud but tragic figure, for, while he strives and creates, he secretly knows the actual goal will never be reached.


    8th January 2013 at 8:34 pm

  101. Beauforde Pusser says:

    These two articles (HEY YOU and MOTHER, SHOULD I TRUST THE GOVERNMENT?) on The Burning Platform are truly epochal — much like The Christian Science Monitor’s early 90’s article on the U.S. Citizen disappearing and becoming the U.S. Consumer — and if I had one wish it would be that everyone read both articles, back to back. The 30 minutes involved in doing so would change a lot of people’s lives. They are that compelling. They basically strip bare the illusion of what kind of life we are living, and what has been taken from us by the Bureaucratic Overlords in Government and Big Business. It is a nightmare scenario and it is here…

    …if there is one weakness/omission in the articles is that the references to Pink Floyd’s 1979 The Wall betray the fact that the author actually chose the wrong Pink Floyd album to use as a touchstone for his treatise…a treatise that constantly refers to Orwell’s 1984…a far more accurate (and more appropriate) album is 1977’s Animals — and album which is basically Floyd’s 1984. Animals is free of the bloat and self-pity that mars The Wall. If anything Animals is even darker and more cynical than The Wall. It is pithier, more ruthless, and more difficult…almost impenetrable…and it must be listened to in one sitting. There are no catchy “singles” (Money, Shine On You Crazy Diamond) on it…it is one unrelenting, barbed, nearly atonal attack on the Overlords (Pigs), the Proles (Sheep) and the Business Elite (Dogs) that comprise modern society. It is perhaps the most gloomy, intellectually grim album in rock history. I have been listening to it of late and it is mesmerizing. Just reading the lyric sheet is like reading a fever dream that exposes our existence…


    Pigs on the wing (part 1)
    If you didn’t care what happened to me,
    and I didn’t care for you,
    we would zig zag our way through the boredom and pain,
    occasionally which of the buggers to blame
    and watching for pigs on the wing.

    You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need.
    You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you’re on the street,
    You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed.
    And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight,
    You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking.

    And after a while, you can work on points for style.
    Like the club tie, and the firm handshake,
    A certain look in the eye and an easy smile.
    You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to,
    So that when they turn their backs on you,
    You’ll get the chance to put the knife in.

    You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder.
    You know it’s going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you
    get older.
    And in the end you’ll pack up and fly down south,
    Hide your head in the sand,
    Just another sad old man,
    All alone and dying of cancer.

    And when you loose control, you’ll reap the harvest you have sown.
    And as the fear grows, the bad blood slows and turns to stone.
    And it’s too late to lose the weight you used to need to throw
    So have a good drown, as you go down, all alone,
    Dragged down by the stone.

    I gotta admit that I’m a little bit confused.
    Sometimes it seems to me as if I’m just being used.
    Gotta stay awake, gotta try and shake off this creeping malaise.
    If I don’t stand my own ground, how can I find my way out of this

    Deaf, dumb, and blind, you just keep on pretending
    That everyone’s expendable and no-one has a real friend.
    And it seems to you the thing to do would be to isolate the winner
    And everything’s done under the sun,
    And you believe at heart, everyone’s a killer.

    Who was born in a house full of pain.
    Who was trained not to spit in the fan.
    Who was told what to do by the man.
    Who was broken by trained personnel.
    Who was fitted with collar and chain.
    Who was given a seat in the stand.
    Who was breaking away from the pack.
    Who was only a stranger at home.
    Who was ground down in the end.
    Who was found dead on the phone.
    Who was dragged down by the stone.

    Big man, pig man, ha ha charade you are.
    You well heeled big wheel, ha ha charade you are.
    And when your hand is on your heart,
    You’re nearly a good laugh,
    Almost a joker,
    With your head down in the pig bin,
    Saying “Keep on digging.”
    Pig stain on your fat chin.
    What do you hope to find.
    When you’re down in the pig mine.
    You’re nearly a laugh,
    You’re nearly a laugh
    But you’re really a cry.

    Bus stop rat bag, ha ha charade you are.
    You fucked up old hag, ha ha charade you are.
    You radiate cold shafts of broken glass.
    You’re nearly a good laugh,
    Almost worth a quick grin.
    You like the feel of steel,
    You’re hot stuff with a hatpin,
    And good fun with a hand gun.
    You’re nearly a laugh,
    You’re nearly a laugh
    But you’re really a cry.

    Hey you, Whitehouse,
    Ha ha charade you are.
    You house proud town mouse,
    Ha ha charade you are
    You’re trying to keep our feelings off the street.
    You’re nearly a real treat,
    All tight lips and cold feet
    And do you feel abused?
    …..! …..! …..! …..!
    You gotta stem the evil tide,
    And keep it all on the inside.
    Mary you’re nearly a treat,
    Mary you’re nearly a treat
    But you’re really a cry.

    Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away;
    Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
    You better watch out,
    There may be dogs about
    I’ve looked over Jordan, and I have seen
    Things are not what they seem.

    What do you get for pretending the danger’s not real.
    Meek and obedient you follow the leader
    Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.
    What a surprise!
    A look of terminal shock in your eyes.
    Now things are really what they seem.
    No, this is no bad dream.

    The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
    He makes me down to lie
    Through pastures green He leadeth me the silent waters by.
    With bright knives He releaseth my soul.
    He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
    He converteth me to lamb cutlets,
    For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger.
    When cometh the day we lowly ones,
    Through quiet reflection, and great dedication
    Master the art of karate,
    Lo, we shall rise up,
    And then we’ll make the bugger’s eyes water.

    Bleating and babbling I fell on his neck with a scream.
    Wave upon wave of demented avengers
    March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.

    Have you heard the news?
    The dogs are dead!
    You better stay home
    And do as you’re told.
    Get out of the road if you want to grow old.

    Pigs on the wing (part 2)
    You know that I care what happens to you,
    and I know that you care for me too,
    so I don’t feel alone,
    or the weight of the stone,
    now that I’ve found somewhere safe
    to bury my bone.
    And any fool knows a dog needs a home,
    a shelter from pigs on the wing.


    10th January 2013 at 8:46 am

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