IT’S GONNA BLOW

Jim seems to think the Snowden revelations and the expected overreach of the government in trying to aprehend and prosecute him will be the match that lights the fuse and sets off the more interesting portion of this Fourth Turning. Adam Kokesh’s armed march on Washington DC on July 4 could get more interesting if the supporters of Snowden and the student loan Millenial serfs join the show. I do believe the fuse has been lit. The worldwide financial markets are exhibiting schizophrenic behavior, the oligarchs are cracking down on dissenters, the peasants are getting poorer by the day, and the corruption has reached epic proportions.

Hopefully it all holds together until Thursday when Kunstler posts our doom and gloom podcast.

Lighting the Fuse

 

     by James Howard Kunstler

     At first glance, the growth of the super snooper state revealed this weekend — like one of those giant, hidden funguses that spreads for miles under the forests of upper Michigan — is a striking discovery. But I maintain that there is an inverse correlation between the technical abilities of the government to harvest data and their competence to use it for anything. The salient trend in our government is to become more inept, ineffectual, impotent, and feckless, no matter how big the compost heaps of sheer information it manages to pile up.

     For spying on your own citizens, the Nazis and the Soviets were way ahead of us using technology no more elegant than phone bugs and filing cabinets. Our immersive techno-narcissism vests too much awe in computer magic itself. What would hurt much more — and work much better — is if Americans become a nation of snitches. That’s a possibility, of course, but I attach a low percentage to it because it requires a respect for authority that is just absent here now, and has been eroding steadily for decades, really ever since Jack Kennedy was gunned down.

     Ironically, Barack Obama got where he did because he pretended to be the reincarnation of JFK — a young, dynamic change agent — and it took years to discover that he was a mere bundle of platitudes wrapped in a banana leaf of good intentions, stamped with a sell-by date that, alas, has now passed. His piled-up troubles seem more a matter of inattention than intent — especially his failure to apply the rule of law in banking — and his recent televised attempts to explain himself give off the demoralized vibe of somebody just sadly going through the motions.

     Anyway, events are in the driver’s seat, not government officials. We’re in the Koyaanisqatsi zone now — everything is out-of-balance from our financial operations to our geopolitical relations to the state of nature around the planet. Too many stresses have built at too many stress-points and a palpable fear judders through the wireless waves that something has to break. Oddly, political cracks appeared this month in two of the least-expected places: Sweden and Turkey. WTF? I wonder a little now if the revelations of Edward J. Snowdon about the American Security apparatus will bring on a wave of street protests in Washington DC on the Fourth of July. Maybe I’m just channeling my own dim memories of 1969, but this historical moment has a similar tingle. We know that the amalgamated gun nuts are already planning what they’ve advertised as an “armed march” across the nation’s capital. Frankly, I’m kind of glad that they’re doing this. The government needs to be reminded that there are already enough small arms loose in America to temper its cloddish excesses. The time is ripe for others to join in a larger Fourth of July demonstration.

     Most satisfying would be a Washington march by college loan debt slaves terminating in a bonfire of the loan contracts on the Ellipse. I keep waiting for the “magic moment” when millions of these poor swindled young grads will send the message thundering through Facebook and Twitter that they are done paying the inflated price for their useless degrees in “marketing” and “gender studies.” Aren’t you amazed that it hasn’t happened yet? (Although the default rate is rising so fast that a general renunciation may be accomplished without public fanfare.)

     Meanwhile, it will be interesting to see if the US government goes after Mr. Snowdon, who is currently on the lam in Hong Kong which, some of you may remember, belongs to China. Does that ever have the potential for a world-class embarrassment? There’s less than a month before America’s big annual birthday party, just enough time for this story to build to an explosive climax. The government will surely have to make some kind of move before than. Given its recent tendencies to over-reach on everything, the government could easily screw the pooch on this. The 29-year-old Snowdon has the look and demeanor of an all-American hero and it will be interesting to see the reaction if and when federal agents haul him off a plane in handcuffs. What’s more, Snowdon made a clear, concise, and eloquent statement explaining his actions: “The public needs to decide whether these programs and policies are right or wrong,” he said.

     You couldn’t put it plainer than that.

Snowdon

Edward J. Snowdon, NSA whistleblower

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Not a Joo
Not a Joo

But I’m leaving for Florida on Friday. Can’t this crap wait till after my vacation is over

card802
card802

Hate to say it but I think most americans will shrug and go about their lives and simply accept this illegal intrusion as a means of continued government imposed safety. As obama has stated, you can’t have it both ways, and americans want safety from the boogieman that lives in whereverthefuckistan.

The left is saying it’s right wing extremists, the right will blame obama even though bush brought us the partiot act, the press will do and say as the press is told.

Next week there will be a diversion and the simple minded will forget all about Snowdon.

Zarathustra

I’m sitting in an airport waiting for my flight. Earlier this morning I took the Hilton shuttle to get here. I was talking to the driver who went into this doom scenario. He told me his is 23 and a recent college graduate. Anyway, I asked him if he had heard of The 4th Turning and he said he owned the book. I told him about this site. I expect him to show up soon. Give him the standard TBP welcome.

AWD

(Obama) “His piled-up troubles seem more a matter of inattention than intent.”

There you go again, Jimmy, giving Obama another pass. He’s just a clueless dupe, a victim of circumstance. He didn’t sign NDAA into law, that was somebody else. He’s not evil beyond reckoning, he’s just a googball. I can’t stand to read his shit much longer. From the IRS, to the NSA, to the “justice” department, Benghazi, fast and furious, pissing on the constitution and bill of rights, going after whisteblowers, trying prevent the acts of fascism from leaking to the public, who has no rights any longer. Obama is behind it all, folks. He’s openly stated he wants to change the U.S., he’s been openly supported by socialist liberal progressives, and he’s following the evil plan to perfection. And people just yawn and go back to stuffing themselves at the buffet like cattle. The fucking liberals will never see what’s going.

And before long, your medical records will be in the hands of the IRS and any other government agency that wishes to use them against you. People don’t have any concept of what this means. Your medical records include your complaints, testing you’ve had done, and more importantly, your problems, and even more importantly, what your doctor thinks and does about your medical and psychological problems. Your weaknesses, the medications you take for depression, bipolar, pain, anxiety, all tabulated and added to your “profile” obtained by spying on you 24/7. Anyone judged to be “defective” can be carted off, just like in Nazi, Germany. It’s the same process in a different era. Your medical history will be used as evidence against you, you can bet on it. I’m sure this will garner another big yawn from the FSA and boobus obesus Americanus, up until the time they pack ’em off into FEMA trains headed for FEMA camps.

Eyes On Elysium
Eyes On Elysium

“The salient trend in our government is to become more inept, ineffectual, impotent, and feckless, no matter how big the compost heaps of sheer information it manages to pile up.”

This is also happening in journalism reporting:
Remember Cyprus;

Remember Sandy Hook – Newtown Shootings-There was no excuse to report the name of the suspect incorrectly, and all the other errors.

We’ll never forget all the government mistakes and journalism reporting screw ups with the Boston Bombings. There was no excuse to report an arrest had been made before it had been or to report the names of the terrorist suspects incorrectly. There was no excuse for a single person to be harmed that day, if the intelligence was intelligent.

There is no excuse to believe anything anymore reported before the facts have had their trial by fire and been verified. I guess we don’t get a two minute advantage for anything except the weather. The rest of the news needs to sit and stew for a few days before we know it’s safe.

FBS
FBS

“Ironically, Barack Obama got where he did because he pretended to be the reincarnation of JFK — a young, dynamic change agent — and it took years to discover that he was a mere bundle of platitudes wrapped in a banana leaf of good intentions, stamped with a sell-by date that, alas, has now passed. His piled-up troubles seem more a matter of inattention than intent — especially his failure to apply the rule of law in banking — and his recent televised attempts to explain himself give off the demoralized vibe of somebody just sadly going through the motions.”

It’s 2013 and Hispanics still have no immigration bill. I guess I’ll stop calling him a liar and call it a failed presidency. When they said Carter 2.0, I thought they were kidding. Pelosi, Reid, Obama (and McCain): the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.

sensetti
sensetti

Spot on AWD
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FBS
FBS

card802 says:

“the press will do and say as the press is told.”

this has been going on for years. they wont write anything that is not on the press release, even if they know different. THERE is the most absolutely worthless degree you can get – a degree in journalism – even if you can actually get a job as a reporter imbedded with the government.

Olga
Olga

Perhaps JK is suggesting that potential whistleblowers now have both the Manning and Snowden examples to learn from and help them decide the direction and method of their own possible actions.

I imagine that getting in front of the Snowden story and directing the sheeple is priority #1 – before any other patriots start boarding planes.

As for JK’s aversion to calling Obama out as a psychopath and bankster puppet, preferring to put Obama’s actions down to inattentiveness – I would expect nothing less from someone who claims he is “allergic to conspiracies”.

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cahuitabeachbound
cahuitabeachbound

Card82:

Unfortunately I agree with you. We have lost our cohesion and from that the ability to mount a movement.

AWD

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chemtrailrider
chemtrailrider

The most impressive part of Edward Snowden is that he is in his 20’s making $200,000.00 per year -without high school education. Talk about an exception to the rule. Of course Bill Gates did not graduate college and became the richest man on earth.
This gives hope to all those who can’t see spending $200K on a worthless college degree. It also gives a whopping case of regret to those who are in college debt up their eyeballs and can’t find a job better than working as a retail clerk.
My hat is off to Edward Snowden. young people, learn about Information Technology, and do it basically for free on the internet and some certificate courses for very little money. That’s where the jobs are.

Tator
Tator

In all of history, no government became more honest, less corrupt, or granted its citizens more rights as it grew in size. E.L. 2011

Persnickety
Persnickety

@Tator, governments don’t grant rights. Rights are something you have anyway. If it’s granted by government, it’s a privilege.

wade
wade
bilbo

AIPAC controls the USA congress, but how? With money. Where does AIPAC get its money? From US SPY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX, the PRISM software is written by PALINTIR an AIPAC holding from ISRAEL. Billions of US dollars are funneled to AIPAC through the SPY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (SIC). That money is used to feed the US Congress who in turn send more money to Israel holding company’s. Because the SPY industry is secret the US congress can say “We didn’t know”, … brilliant.

Only Feinstein knows the truth, #1 bitch for AIPAC. Absolutely Brilliant.

I predict in 2-4 years 1/2 of the US Congress will be billionaires.

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bilbo

But I maintain that there is an inverse correlation between the technical abilities of the government to harvest data and their competence to use it for anything. The salient trend in our government is to become more inept, ineffectual, impotent, and feckless, no matter how big the compost heaps of sheer information it manages to pile up. – jim

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Jim

Your about 20 years late on the curve, new machine-learning algorithms using the PRISM(PALINTR) software allow 100% correlation on quad-drillions of bits and bytes of data. All in REAL TIME.

The software is new, the mathematics (SVM) support vector machine, was only invented in the last 5 years, allowing a boom in intelligence analysis,

In summary your assertion is that they have data, but can’t correlate it, and that is either a LIE, or IGNORANCE. Either way you ought to either correct your assertion, or study up a little more before you make such assertions.

sincerely, long time reader

SSS

“What would hurt much more — and work much better — is if Americans become a nation of snitches.”
—-Kuntsler

True. East German Stasi files showed that more than 33% of the population was on the snitch list. It worked. Germans didn’t do well under authoritarian regimes, did they?

SSS

“In summary your assertion is that they have data, but can’t correlate it, and that is either a LIE, or IGNORANCE. Either way you ought to either correct your assertion, or study up a little more before you make such assertions.”
—-bilbo @ Jim (Kunstler)

Ok, bilbo, I am not familiar with the mathematics support vector machine (SVM), as you say it came into being 5 years ago, after I retired. But I can tell you this. The biggest dumbfuck I ever worked with in the counterterrorist field held a PhD in math from MIT.

This guy mathematically created such bad analysis that one of his “hot leads” led to the U.S. embassy in a Middle Eastern nation. And it had nothing to do with an employee in the embassy working with terrorist groups and everything to do with just plain piss poor analysis and an extraordinary bad math model.

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