HELL NO, WE WON’T GO

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Posted on 2nd September 2013 by AWD in Economy

Thank God for the internet. The truth is getting out, despite the bought and paid for MSM bullshit lies.

The truth about Syria is ugly. Saudi Arabia gave the Al Qaeda rebels poisonous gas which they used on civilians. Meanwhile, the Al Qaeda rebels we are arming and giving training to are beheading Christians. These are the people war criminal Obama is backing.

Well, the military doesn’t want anything to do with it. Maybe we’ll see Obama removed from power, and anyone else in Washington that goes along with this criminal fraud and treason. Don’t believe the lies you hear on T.V. We need to stay the hell out of Syria.

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The U.S. Military Does Not Want To Fight For Al-Qaeda Christian Killers In Syria
By Michael Snyder, on September 1st, 2013

Why is the Obama administration so determined to have the U.S. military help al-Qaeda win the civil war in Syria? Why are we being told that the U.S. has “no choice” but to help rabid jihadist terrorists that are slaughtering entire Christian villages, brutally raping Christian women and joyfully beheading Christian prisoners? If you are a Christian, you should not want anything to do with these genocidal lunatics. J

abhat al-Nusra is a radical Sunni terror organization affiliated with al-Qaeda that is leading the fight against the Assad regime. If they win, life will be absolute hell for the approximately two million Christians in Syria and other religious minorities. According to Wikipedia, Jabhat al-Nusra intends “to create a Pan-Islamic state under sharia law and aims to reinstate the Islamic Caliphate.” As you will see below, many members of the U.S. military understand this, and they absolutely do not want to fight on the side of al-Qaeda.

Not that we should be supporting Assad either. Assad is horrible. He should be rotting in prison somewhere. But just because a country has a bad leader does not mean that we have justification to attack them.

The U.S. military should only be put into action when there is a compelling national interest at stake. And getting involved in a bloody civil war between Assad and al-Qaeda does not qualify.

For the moment, we have a little bit of time to educate the American people about this because the Obama administration has decided to try to get the approval of Congress before striking Syria. Hopefully cooler heads will prevail.

Unfortunately, some members of the U.S. Congress are actually trying to push Obama into even stronger action. In fact, some Senators are now saying that they will not support military intervention in Syria unless it is a part of an “overall strategy” to remove Assad from power.

If the U.S. does try to remove Assad, it will unleash hell in the Middle East. Syria has already threatened to attack Israel if the U.S. tries to remove Assad and so has Hezbollah.

As I mentioned the other day, right now there are 70,000 Hezbollah rockets aimed at Israel.

When Hezbollah and Syria start sending rockets into the heart of Tel Aviv, Israel will respond with even greater force.

And if a single one of those rockets that land in Tel Aviv have an unconventional warhead, Israel will respond by absolutely flattening Damascus.

When I say that, what I mean is that a city of 1.7 million people will be gone permanently.

Do our politicians have any idea of the hell that they are about to unleash?

Do our leaders actually want Israel to be attacked?

Do our leaders actually want major cities in the Middle East to be completely wiped out?

Do our leaders actually want millions of precious people to die?

As I mentioned above, those serving in the U.S. military understand these things better than most people, and right now many of them are expressing a very strong desire to stay out of this conflict.

According to a tweet from U.S. Representative Justin Amash, he has heard from numerous members of the U.S. military that are urging him to vote against an attack on Syria…

“I’ve been hearing a lot from members of our Armed Forces. The message I consistently hear: Please vote no on military action against #Syria.”

Journalist Paul Szoldra says that he has also heard from a lot of service members that want nothing to do with this conflict…

I’ve reached out to my own sources who are either veterans or currently on active duty in the military, and asked them to share their thoughts on whether we should, or should not, intervene in the two-year-old Syrian civil war. Most have responded with a resounding no.

The following is what a Marine Corps infantry veteran with three deployments to Iraq named Jack Mandaville wrote to Szoldra…

The worst part about this Syria debacle, among many things, is how closely it resembles Iraq. Those Vietnam veterans who warned us about disastrous results in Iraq were doing so based off their experience in a war that, contrary to popular belief, was vastly different from our war and was separated by at least two decades. Many veterans of Iraq are still in their twenties and have a firsthand understanding of Arab political issues. The complicated things we faced with Syria’s next door neighbors is freshly ingrained in our memories. How quickly the American people and our political leaders forget.

Our involvement in Syria is so dangerous on so many levels, and the 21st century American vet is more keen to this than anybody. It boggles my mind that we are being ignored. My anger over this issue has actually made me seriously comment on our foreign policy for the first time since 2006 when I was honorably discharged after three stints in Iraq and subsequently watched it continue for nearly another six years. I’m sickened that we’re putting ourselves in a position for another prolonged war where the American people will quickly forget about the people fighting it.

And even an establishment mouthpiece like the Washington Post is admitting that top U.S. military officials are expressing “serious reservations” about a war with Syria…

The Obama administration’s plan to launch a military strike against Syria is being received with serious reservations by many in the U.S. military, which is coping with the scars of two lengthy wars and a rapidly contracting budget, according to current and former officers.

Having assumed for months that the United States was unlikely to intervene militarily in Syria, the Defense Department has been thrust onto a war footing that has made many in the armed services uneasy, according to interviews with more than a dozen military officers ranging from captains to a four-star general.

One officer even told the Post that he “can’t believe” that Obama is even considering a conflict with Syria…

“I can’t believe the president is even considering it,” said [one] officer, who like most officers interviewed for this story agreed to speak only on the condition of anonymity because military personnel are reluctant to criticize policymakers while military campaigns are being planned.

What Obama wants to do is utter insanity.

Why would we want to enter a war on the side of Christian killers?

In areas of Syria that are controlled by the rebels, Christians are being treated brutally. The following is from eyewitness testimony from a Christian missionary who recently visited the region…

“The Christian residents were offered four choices: 1. renounce the ‘idolatry’ of Christianity and convert to Islam; 2. pay a heavy tribute to the Muslims for the privilege of keeping their heads and their Christian faith (this tribute is known as jizya); 3. be killed; 4. flee for their lives, leaving all their belongings behind.”

How would you like to be faced with those choices?

In other instances, Christians are not even given any choices. Instead, they are being summarily executed for their faith.

For example, the following is one incident that made news back in December…

Syrian rebels beheaded a Christian man and fed his body to dogs, according to a nun who says the West is ignoring atrocities committed by Islamic extremists.

The nun said taxi driver Andrei Arbashe, 38, was kidnapped after his brother was heard complaining that fighters against the ruling regime behaved like bandits.

She said his headless corpse was found by the side of the road, surrounded by hungry dogs. He had recently married and was soon to be a father.

How would you feel if a member of your family was beheaded and fed to the dogs?

And the rebels have continued to slaughter Christians even though they know the world is watching. The following is from an NBC News report on August 18th…

Syrian rebels killed at least 11 people, including civilians, in an attack on a checkpoint west of the city of Homs on Saturday that official state media described as a massacre.

Most of those killed were Christians, activists and residents said.

Sometimes these psychotic Syrian rebels actually round up Christian women and children and gun them dow
n. The following is from a report about what the rebels did to the Christian village of al-Duvair when they took control…

Images obtained exclusively by Infowars show the aftermath of an alleged massacre of a Christian village in Syria during which men, women and children were slaughtered and churches desecrated by Obama-backed FSA rebels.

The photos, which were provided by a source inside the village of al-Duvair in Syria’s Western province of Homs, show ruined homes, ransacked churches as well as the burned remains of what looks like an infant.

According to the Assyrian International News Agency (AINA) on May 29, “The armed rebels affiliated to the Free Syrian Army (FSA) raided the Christian-populated al-Duvair village in Reef (outskirts of) Homs near the border with Lebanon….and massacred all its civilian residents, including women and children.”

But sometimes women are not killed by the rebels. If they are young and lovely, they are often systematically raped. What happened to one 15-year-old Christian girl from Qusair named Mariam is a total abomination…

The commander of the battalion “Jabhat al-Nusra” in Qusair took Mariam, married and raped her. Then he repudiated her. The next day the young woman was forced to marry another Islamic militant. He also raped her and then repudiated her. The same trend was repeated for 15 days, and Mariam was raped by 15 different men. This psychologically destabilized her and made her insane. Mariam, became mentally unstable and was eventually killed.

This is who Obama wants to help?

We are going to shed American blood to help those monsters take over Syria?

Are we insane?

Of course one of the most prominent examples of rebel brutality was even reported on by CNN…

The ghastly video shows how barbaric the Syrian civil war can be.

A man, said to be a well-known rebel fighter, carves into the body of a government soldier and cuts out his heart and liver.

“I swear to God we will eat your hearts out, you soldiers of Bashar. You dogs. God is greater!” the man says. “Heroes of Baba Amr … we will take out their hearts to eat them.”

He then puts the heart in his mouth and takes a bite.

After reading that, can anyone out there possibly justify helping the Syrian rebels?

But the Obama administration insists that we “must” attack Syria because Assad supposedly used chemical weapons against his own people.

Secretary of State John Kerry says that samples taken by UN inspectors have tested positive for the nerve agent sarin, and therefore what we must do is clear.

But is it really?

According to Reuters, the UN has had evidence that Syrian rebels have been using sarin gas against Assad forces since May…

U.N. human rights investigators have gathered testimony from casualties of Syria’s civil war and medical staff indicating that rebel forces have used the nerve agent sarin, one of the lead investigators said on Sunday.

And as I discussed the other day, Syrian rebels have admitted to an Associated Press reporter that they were the ones that used sarin gas during the incident that the Obama administration is so concerned about.

The chemical weapons were supplied to the rebels by Saudi Arabia, but the Obama administration will never, ever admit this. If the U.S. called the Saudis out on this, it would potentially endanger the status of the petrodollar.

Instead, the U.S. government is going to end up doing exactly what the Saudis want, which is to attack Syria.

But people all around the world are seeing through this charade. For example, the following is a statement that Pat Buchanan made during a recent interview with Newsmax…

“I would not understand or comprehend that Bashar al-Assad, no matter how bad a man he may be, would be so stupid as to order a chemical weapons attack on civilians in his own country when the immediate consequence of which might be that he would be at war with the United States. So this reeks of a false flag operation.”

Sadly, it doesn’t really seem to matter what any of us think. According to James Rosen of Fox News, the Obama administration has apparently made the decision to go ahead with an attack on Syria no matter what Congress decides…

A senior State Department official tells Fox News the president’s decision to take military action in Syria still stands, and will indeed be carried out, regardless of whether Congress votes next week to approve the use of such force.

The official said that every major player on the National Security Council – including the commander-in-chief – was in accord last night on the need for military action, and that the president’s decision to seek a congressional debate and vote was a surprise to most if not all of them. However, the aide insisted the request for Congress to vote did not supplant the president’s earlier decision to use force in Syria, only delayed its implementation.

“That’s going to happen, anyway,” the source told me, adding that that was why the president, in his rose Garden remarks, was careful to establish that he believes he has the authority to launch such strikes even without congressional authorization.

Very soon, the U.S. military will be embroiled in a vicious civil war between a brutal dictator and absolutely psychotic Christian-killing jihadists.

Should American blood be spilled in such a conflict?

Of course not.

Is it worth potentially starting World War III just to teach Assad a “lesson”?

Of course not.

Hopefully this war will not happen, because if it does I fear that it is going to be very, very bloody.

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10 Comments
  1. taxSlave says:

    Nader was wrong about the corvair, but right about o-bomb-ya

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    2nd September 2013 at 12:22 pm

  2. SKINBAG says:

    That our president Obama won the NOBEL PEACE PRIZE tells any person with half a brain how totally fucked up the entire world has become. That our president can go before the world on national TV and talk about how Syria must be punished, while he himself has ordered DRONE strikes that have killed countless innocent men woman and children is beyond belief. That ANYONE would listen to his lies is even more pathetic. The USA has blanketed IRAQ with depleted uranium shells and casings, (which is causing both short and long term health issues) and has caused untold suffering and destruction there, as well as in Afghanistan, Libya and too many other places to name. Obama, Bernanke, congress, the military industrial complex, most politicians, wall street bankers, et al must surely be ‘run of the ranch’ ! ( do you think that I will be granted a concealed weapons permit after posting this? )

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    2nd September 2013 at 1:27 pm

  3. Zarathustra says:

    Assad is a mild-mannered eye doctor who happens by birth (and the death of his brother) to have been compelled to lead an oligarchy that is drawn from a religious minority. Despite propaganda to the contrary, he is in no way a “brutal dictator” and all the lies in the world won’t make it so.

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    2nd September 2013 at 1:38 pm

  4. Mark says:

    I have no qualms with Asaad or Hussein (Saddam) using chemical weapon on their own people. Other then the fact the use of chemical weapons are an attempt to subdue not their own people but a majority of other people that live in the boundaries of their country. Given their gruthers , these other people who are the majority in their respected countries would commit genicide on the manority who they are trying to over throw given the same opportunity.

    The dirty little secret is genicide works. It worked in Iraq for Hussein (Sadam) . It is the only thing that will work for Assad. So far Assad has displaced over a million orphaned refuges and has considerably more to go.

    Gasing the oppositions ethicity into submission maybe the only way the exodus of refuges comes to a trickle.

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    2nd September 2013 at 4:27 pm

  5. MuckAbout says:

    Simple, simple, simple… We DON’T KNOW what happened or if we do, it certainly hasn’t been presented in any fashion to convince the dumbest klutz out there.

    Assad’s boys have been gassing and burning opposition civilians for a long time – just little pop-and-fizzle chemical attacks that wipe out a village here and a village there. No kick ass response, well, shit! Let’s do it bigger and see if that draws a response.

    If the rebels (i.e. the bad guys called Al Quida and financed by Saudi Arabia and a few other Arab oil countries) captured (or were given) rockets with nerve gas loads, they certainly were trained very well as the rockets used were sophisticated and quite accurate if one knows exactly what to do in launch prep and actual firing thereof.

    I can certainly see a false-flag attack by the rebels to try and draw in Western response against the Government which, sadly puts on the wrong side of a “bad and worse” choice. But I cannot see such an accurate barrage lit of by other than the Syrian Army, well trained in the handling and use of the chemical weapons.

    The trouble is, you have nothing but bad choices here and I really would not like to be the one making a go-no-go as far as kick-back is concerned. And there’s the old rule that applies, “Never disturb your enemies when they are destroying each other.” . Make no mistake, both dogs in this fight are our enemies and we’d be better off placing side bets outside the fence.

    In this case, no action is better that picking sides – at least at this moment in time. Tomorrow? Who knows.

    MA

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    2nd September 2013 at 5:09 pm

  6. juan says:

    Present in the Mexican Army for the battles of Palo Alto and Resaca de la Palma were the Legión de Extranjeros (Legion of Foreigners); the men who would later make up the core of the Saint Patrick’s battalion. Meanwhile, Riley and “a company of 48 Irishmen”[17] manned Mexican artillery at the Siege of Fort Texas, which took place concurrently to the two other battles.

    The Saint Patrick’s Battalion first fought as a recognised Mexican unit in the Battle of Monterrey on 21 September 1846, as an artillery battery. Popularly they were called Los Colorados by the Mexicans because of their ruddy, sun-burnt complexions and red hair color.[18][19] They were commanded by Jon Riley,[b] an Irish artilleryman and veteran non-commissioned officer of the British Army, who possibly arrived in Canada in 1843 whilst serving in the British Army (the assertion that he served as a Sergeant in the 66th (Berkshire) Regiment of Foot,[18] is known to be a fabrication[20]) going on to join the U.S. Army in Michigan in September 1845. He deserted in Matamoros in April 1846.[21] Upon meeting Mexican forces he was initially given the Officers rank of Lieutenant by General Pedro de Ampudia.[22]

    San Patricios defended the city of Monterrey with artillery fire from its citadel, indicated here with the key “F”.[d]
    At the battle of Monterrey the San Patricios proved their artillery skills by causing the deaths of many American soldiers, and they are credited with defeating two[23] to three[2] separate assaults into the heart of the city. Among their targets were companies led by such officers as Braxton Bragg, many of whose soldiers would end up in their own ranks later in the war.[24] Their tenacity, however, did not affect the Mexican commanders’ decision to capitulate and abandon the position.

    Following the engagement at Monterrey, the San Patricios grew in number, by some estimates reaching an enlistment of over 700 men.[22][25] Forces re-assembled at San Luis Potosí and they had their distinct green silk flag embroidered there.

    Buena Vista[edit source]

    They then marched northward after joining a larger force commanded by Antonio López de Santa Anna sent from Mexico City, the “liberating army of the North”. At the Battle of Buena Vista (known as the battle of Angostura in Mexico) in Coahuila on 23 February, the Patricios became engaged with U.S. forces. They were assigned the three heaviest — 18 and 24 pound — cannons the Mexican army possessed, which were positioned on high ground over-looking the battlefield. They were later described as “a strong Mexican battery…moved….by dint of extraordinary exertions…[that] commanded the entire plateau”.[26]
    They started the battle supporting Mexican infantry by firing on U.S. lines as the Mexicans advanced on them, then later decimating an artillery battery directly opposite them on the battlefield (Washington’s 4th Artillery, D Battery). A small number of San Patricios were dispatched with a division commanded by Manuel Lombardini with the express purpose of capturing the 4th’s cannons once the crews had been dealt with. As the division got close enough they charged the artillery battery, bayoneting whoever remained and routing the rest, leaving the attached San Patricios free to haul away two six-pound cannons.[27] These cannons would later be used by Mexican forces at the Battle of Contreras.[10]

    In frustration U.S. Commander Zachary Taylor, referring to the Saint Patrick’s Battalion, ordered a squadron of the 1st Dragoons to “take that damned battery”.[28] In this task they failed, and, badly bloodied, were forced to retreat.[10] At about 1 p.m. the San Patricios covered a Mexican retreat as a disordered mass of infantry sought refuge during a lull in the fighting.[29] The San Patricios rode out the day in a costly artillery duel with several American batteries,[30] which killed and injured roughly one third of them.[31] Several Irishmen were awarded the War Cross by the Mexican government for their conduct in that battle, and many received field promotions.[31][32

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    2nd September 2013 at 5:17 pm

  7. juan says:

    McCain has had a hard-on for Syria for a while now, and finally, his day has come. He smiles like a wolf at the prospect. We might as well call this “McCain’s War”.

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    2nd September 2013 at 9:42 pm

  8. SAH says:

    I would like to invite Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Iceland, and the rest of the freer world to PLEASE come here and liberate us from the despots in Washington DC! We are an oppressed people, with wicked dictators and war criminals in charge of us, evil oligarchs wielding the most vast and heavily armed international network of terror cells across the globe waging wars using the most sophisticated WMDs on planet Earth! Please free world, come “police” our nation and feel free to remove the wicked dictators of America – since that is what we do now on this planet. If aweful leadership is a valid reason to start bombing the shit out of a country, then we should have been attacked by 2008 at the latest!

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    2nd September 2013 at 12:07 am

  9. GilbertS says:

    BTW-I haven’t seen this in the mainstream media much. My buddy overseas turned me onto this one. With all the talk about Assad, here’s proof the insurgents got their own Sarin. With all the Sarin floating around out there, is it this season’s new AK47 for terrorist accessorizing?

    Russia asks Turkey for info on sarin terrorists
    http://www.turkishweekly.net/news/151261/russia-asks-turkey-for-info-on-sarin-terrorists.html
    6 June 2013

    Russia has called on Turkey to share its findings in the case of Syrian rebels who were seized on the Turkish-Syrian border with a 2kg cylinder full of nerve gas sarin.

    Russia’s top foreign official Sergei Lavrov tolday said the Kremlin wanted to get clear on the issue of chemical weapons used in Syria, since the allegation had taken on the role of a trading card in the conflict, becoming a focus of constant provocations.

    “I do not rule out that some force may want to use it [the rumour] to say that the “red line” has been crossed and a foreign intervention is needed,” the minister said.

    “We are still waiting on a comprehensive report from our Turkish colleagues,” he added, citing the incident when a gang of terrorists carrying a canister with nerve gas sarin was arrested inside the Turkish territory about two weeks ago.

    Moscow calls to pick side in Syria conflict

    Russia’s chief of foreign affairs has urged the international community to finally take its pick and decide whether it is going to side with forces set to topple the Syrian regime or with the ones calling for a nationwide dialogue on Syrian peace.

    Speaking at a press conference, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said: “We want that… the international community took off the blinders that make its focus on its immediate urge to overthrow one leader, then unseat another one, while turning a blind eye on the outcome of these actions.”

    “Whatever has been happening during this ‘Arab Spring,’ it is clear now that these events are closely connected, so it is important to choose who you are siding with… with those who want to cut the knot without looking back at the suffering nation – or with those who want to solve this problem though dialogue,” Mr. Lavrov said.

    Russia urges prompt inquiry into chemical arms use in Syria – Lavrov
    All of the possible instances of chemical weapons use in Syria should be established as soon as possible, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

    “I would like to support Guido [German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle] regarding the need to urgently establish all of the facts linked to reports about the possible use of chemical weapons by the sides,” Lavrov said at a press conference in the Kaliningrad region on Thursday.

    A serious mistake was made when the Syrian government’s request to investigate the possible use of chemical toxic substances in the city of Aleppo on March 19 was left without any response, but unlimited and unhindered access to any facility on Syrian territory was demanded instead, the Russian minister said.

    All opposition groups in Syria should be able to be involved in reaching compromise – Lavrov

    Russia insists that all structures related to the settlement of the situation in Syria should take part in the international conference on Syria, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

    “All structures should be present at that conference. That applies not only to the national coalition, which has so far failed to take a constructive stance in the conference. That also applies to those opposition structures that do not want to be present at the Geneva conference if it is called under the ‘umbrella’ of the national coalition,” Lavrov told a press conference on Thursday.

    Among the organization that want to take an independent part in the conference are the National Coordination Committee and the Syrian Kurds, he said.

    “We believe all opposition structures in Syria should be given an opportunity to communicate their viewpoint and participate in the achievement of a compromise, which will ensure peace, stability, ad equal rights for all ethnic and religious groups in the country,” Lavrov said.

    Russia vows to bring Iran to Syria parley amid Western criticism

    Russia is set to push for Iranian presence at the planned Syria conference, dubbed Geneva II, in Switzerland, Russia’s Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday.

    Mr. Lavrov stressed Moscow was intent on bringing all countries who can influence the parley to the negotiating table. And one of those world powers is Tehran, he pointed out.

    The West has met this motion with a great deal of resentment. “At the current stage our partners have been quite outspoken and critical about Iran’s participation,” Sergei Lavrov said at a briefing today. “We think they are mistaken,” he added.

    The Russian foreign minister vowed that Russia “will keep pressing for including all influential parties in the conference.”

    6 June 2013

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    2nd September 2013 at 10:07 am

  10. juan says:

    SAH says:

    “I would like to invite Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Iceland, and the rest of the freer world to PLEASE come here and liberate us from the despots in Washington DC!”

    I don’t understand, CNN says we are free, Obammy being the leader of the free world.

    John Kerry said it only made our country stronger when Obammy consulted Congress about his plan to attack Syria because John McCain made certain promises to his friends over there. McCain is subtle like the clap, he has that chesire cat smile that showed when he called an emergency campaign stoppage in ’08 just so he could showboat in the white house. he is doing the same again.

    Boener forgot all about the budget and is all for spending another fistful of trillions in one more ME adventure.

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    2nd September 2013 at 12:50 am

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