QUOTES OF THE DAY

“An impasse over the federal budget reaches a stalemate. The president and Congress both refuse to back down, triggering a near-total government shutdown. The president declares emergency powers. Congress rescinds his authority. Dollar and bond prices plummet. The president threatens to stop Social Security checks. Congress refuses to raise the debt ceiling. Default looms. Wall Street panics.”

The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe – Page 273 – Written in 1996

 

“In retrospect, the spark might seem as ominous as a financial crash, as ordinary as a national election, or as trivial as a Tea Party. The catalyst will unfold according to a basic Crisis dynamic that underlies all of these scenarios: An initial spark will trigger a chain reaction of unyielding responses and further emergencies. The core elements of these scenarios (debt, civic decay, global disorder) will matter more than the details, which the catalyst will juxtapose and connect in some unknowable way. If foreign societies are also entering a Fourth Turning, this could accelerate the chain reaction. At home and abroad, these events will reflect the tearing of the civic fabric at points of extreme vulnerability –  problem areas where America will have neglected, denied, or delayed needed action.” – The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe

 

“Imagine some national (and probably global) volcanic eruption, initially flowing along channels of distress that were created during the Unraveling era and further widened by the catalyst. Trying to foresee where the eruption will go once it bursts free of the channels is like trying to predict the exact fault line of an earthquake. All you know in advance is something about the molten ingredients of the climax, which could include the following:

  • Economic distress, with public debt in default, entitlement trust funds in bankruptcy, mounting poverty and unemployment, trade wars, collapsing financial markets, and hyperinflation (or deflation)
  • Social distress, with violence fueled by class, race, nativism, or religion and abetted by armed gangs, underground militias, and mercenaries hired by walled communities
  • Political distress, with institutional collapse, open tax revolts, one-party hegemony, major constitutional change, secessionism, authoritarianism, and altered national borders
  • Military distress, with war against terrorists or foreign regimes equipped with weapons of mass destruction”

The Fourth Turning – Strauss & Howe

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JIMSKI
JIMSKI
September 30, 2013 8:43 am

Man i do not need to read that shit this early…….

bluestem
bluestem
September 30, 2013 10:44 am

Today’s stuff is small time, in several weeks the debt limit “discussions” will really light up the room. John

card802
card802
September 30, 2013 11:06 am

Just remember, raising the debt ceiling does not increase the debt, or something like that, fear not, all is well as long as barack remains in charge. It’s also a Constitutional requirement. (not)

Should be a very interesting two weeks……and years to follow.

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
September 30, 2013 11:29 am

It matters not one tiny bit what the politicos do about “the debt ceiling” or anything else, for that matter.

We are way past the point of no return as far as debt, derivatives(all $270 TRILLION of them) and every other phantom piece of imaginary asset. When it caves in, the “government funding” and “debt ceiling” will be a total non-interesting part of the unfolding collapse – and this is pretty well world wide as well.

We are into totally uncharted water here – our “empire” is done and thanks to current technology in communications and mixing “money” all over the world, using other country’s debt as assets even knowing the whole thing is a Ponzi game, will collapse very rapidly. Not at all like Rome, which lost its’ head first and the body lived on like a zombi for several hundreds of years.

I think we’ll go down with a bang rather than a whimper..

Pretty soon now, too…

MA

card802
card802
September 30, 2013 11:49 am

I agree with Muck, this debate is all for show, and votes.

John Mauldin had this to say:

“Contrary to the thinking of fretful dollar skeptics, my firm belief is that the US dollar is going to become even stronger and will at some point actually deserve to be the reserve currency of choice rather than merely the prettiest girl in the ugly contest – the last currency standing, so to speak.”

Mauldin has always been pretty optimistic for a doomer, but then he wrote End Game, how can he also believe that the US$ will remain the strongest currency? Playing both sides?

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
September 30, 2013 12:07 pm

@Muck:

+100

You are correct, we are way way way past the point of no return. It just takes a while for such a gargantuan enterprise as the US of A to finally come to a stop. The Titanic took almost 4 hours to sink, after all.

It will NOT be a quiet stop, more like a nuclear blast, since so much of the country depends on daily fed.gov teat sucking. Ohhhh, it’s coming, a Smack Down of Cosmic Proportions. Just be ready with your preps and situational awareness.

We have sown the wind and will now reap the whirlwind.

A. R. Wasem
A. R. Wasem
September 30, 2013 12:17 pm

Re Mauldin – IMHO always playing both sides and “talking his book”. Nothing “wrong” with that and he’s informative as long as you understand the limits of his analysis. BC-LR to all.

MuckAbout
MuckAbout
September 30, 2013 12:25 pm

Mauldin lost his credibility and sold his soul for money when he joined Casey’s Group Grope newsletter touting bunch. I don’t read any of them for one reason: they are all one-note Johnnys.

In a word, boring.

@hzk: Thanks.. Just random thoughts on tragedy..

MA

flash
flash
September 30, 2013 1:13 pm

One can always count on HZK for a dose of good cheer.Thanks Doc…I feel much better now.

Schiffli
Schiffli
September 30, 2013 9:37 pm

Great book! It really should be part of mandatory high school curriculum. Read it, guaranteed to blow the top of your skull clean off.

Billy
Billy
September 30, 2013 10:09 pm

@ Muck

“I think we’ll go down with a bang rather than a whimper..

Pretty soon now, too…”

Agreed. The time to “save” the US as a Republic passed a long time ago. We’re on a clock- the problem is, we don’t know how much time is left until the buzzer goes off.

I cannot tell others what they should or should not do. I only know what I am doing. Saving who and what I can, while I can.

I don’t give up easy, and I haven’t given up. Merely realized where my efforts will do the most good.

If anything, I’m digging in and trying to preserve what I can. My only regret is that I don’t have more and greater funds to save the best. The monks of Skellig Michael, alone on their island, were considered so marginal they were ignored by invaders and conquerors. Yet they collected and protected the greatest works of human antiquity for centuries during the Dark Ages.

And when the world was ready, they gave it all back.