thunderbird, you are not quite correct. while i’m sure there is corruption and failure behind the scenes, as with everything else in our kafka-like pretend world, there are extensive rules and standards for receiving organic certification from the usda, qai, or other large organic certification bodies, and physical audits of farms and production facilities happen often (though again, i’m sure bribery and corruption could be used to circumvent this). Contrast this with a term like ‘all natural’ (or ‘natural flavorings’) which you can just write on the label of a bag of doritos with no consequences or requirements.
KaD, Trader joe’s private label products are all supposed to be as per corporate policy free of GMO, food preservatives, and artificial sweeteners. However, under their corporate boomer CEO Dan Bane, quality is slipping and you will notice them cheating on many products with added potassium citrate, potassium sorbate, vitamin e (mixed tocopherols) and other ‘iffy’ preservatives creeping into private label products. They do, however, keep out the really nasty stuff like datem, sodium benzoate, aspartame etc. I hope they are sticking to the non-GMO claim behind the scenes but wouldn’t count on it.
food is highly regulated but it’s mostly at the industrial level. The Code of Federal Regulations has very strict definitions of what constitutes every food product imaginable as well as the materials it is allowed to come into contact with.
Blaming the gun and ammo companies when people shoot each other.
Or blaming the phone companies when some idiot kills a family while texting and driving…..
Anything so obese America doesn’t have to look in the mirror, stop shoveling food into their faces, get off the fat asses and exercise, or take any personal responsibility for their actions. Truly pathetic.
I’m sick and tired of all the fatties blaming everyone but themselves. I was banned from posting at Raw Story for suggesting that fatties should not be allowed to vote since they lack the basic intelligence to control the amount of food they put in their mouths.
It isn’t that f*cking hard especially now that we have the internet and smart phones. It is easily possible to find out exactly what is in the food that you choose to purchase. I’m 47 and weight exactly as I did when I was 25. It isn’t that hard people!
You get one opportunity to spin around on this planet and why some people choose to do it addicted to food, alcohol or drugs is beyond me.
well that was a mostly worthless video.
Things like HFCS and Aspartame are designed to be cheap and increase hunger while not providing much nutrition. Is it addictive? Hell Yeah. Is anyone who can’t overcome that addiction and take control their life a worthless sack of shit? A big ole “affirmative” to that one as well.
should people be surprised that a product made by a large company is marketed and manufactured to increase said company’s profits???
yammering about regulating the marketing industry, especially for the dear children and coerced “warning labels” are more examples of govt solutions/buffoonery.
the solution is freedom, people want to eat/drink garbage and poison go right ahead and shorten your life, you will hear no complaints from me, stop breathing my air.
but the govt can’t be allowed to force other people to take responsibility for these people’s choices. if you are fat sick and nearly dead keep your sausage fingers out of my pockets; that is on you, no one else.
Yes, at the point you are going to Hamaad the Tent Maker for your clothes, you have a lot of shoulders to blame.
BUT automatically dismissing the fat asses and IGNORING the reality of the “food” supply in this country is OBSCENE.
Fluoride, chlorine, vaccinations are depositing heavy metals in our brains and bodies and then the shit food and “healthy” diet pop and high-carb, fake food (white rice flour anyone?) literally finishes shutting down our brains ability to self-regulate.
More and more independent studies are SHOWING this. More and more of these deadly toxins we call “additives and preservatives” are being banned EVERYWHERE but here.
AWD jumps in with his medical omnipotence and ignores the reality of the chemical reactions on the human body and blames the body.
And the sheeple believe that the chemical medical community can actually fix the damage the chemical food industry has gifted us.
My heart cries for those that are still buying the propaganda and crap. They have lots of medically – and financially – forced suffering ahead of them.
Any one else here about the Amish girl that the state of Ohio ruled HAD to undergo an experimental, two-year, chemotherapy “treatment?”
Her parents, apparently, had left the country before the judge ruled against them. She is apparently healthy and cancer free using “alternative” treatments delivered outside the death grip of the AMA.
The best way to avoid GMO is to know those plants that are and avoid things made with them. The big ones are corn, canola, soy, cotton, alfalfa and some fruits like Hawaiian papaya. I believe Salmon as well but can’t remember if it was approved or not. Haven’t eaten it in a long time. If you want a little more certainty buy organic, but the label in under attack by some of the big “food” manufacturers trying to relax the standards. Never fails.
you can, and should, blame both sides. It is quite possible for both, either, or neither of the parties involved in something to be at fault. I was fat through my entire adolescence and got lean from age 17-20 using internets research and have stayed that way. Of course I take responsibility for my body, it’s in my direct control, and as soon as I made the conscious, sustained effort, I got results. But it is still morally wrong to promote unhealthy decisions and use all legal means of persuasion to get them to act against their own self interest. Like most things there is plenty of blame to go around – for instance, why aren’t the basic macronutrients taught in schools, along with a way to calculate your calorie needs and intake? I guess that was in the class about responsible finance, and accurately descibres the economy you’re being prepared to enter? Actually that last one would be rated 21+ for continuous descriptions of rape and exploitation, maybe we should just let them find out after college…
why would a libertarian be anti-labeling requirement? One of the few things I can see a federal governing body doing as a legitimate service would be to ensure that all products for human consumption in the nation are provided along with labeling that describes exactly what’s inside to the best knowledge of the producer. Giving people dangerous and faulty products WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE is a violation of non-aggression, and a free market doesn’t operate well with secret and poorly understood chemicals being introduced into the marketplace without the supposedly rational participants being allowed to know. Libertarianism that’s soft on corruption and fraud because they’re not ‘REAL’ violence is going to equate to more control by giant businesses. If they’re allowed to lie and keep things secret that their customers need to know to make rational decisions, they’re going to game the system and steal all the treasure like they do every time the slaves give them an inch.
What you’re proposing is a slippery slope. Empower the government and before you know it corruption ensues. You are right about the violation of the non-aggression principle, however, an arbiter, such as a strong court system, along with the existence of a well-informed consumer (here is the problem), are the mechanisms that should, in theory, keep harmful products from being successful.
If a well-informed consumer knew something was harmful, they wouldn’t buy the product, most likely. This is a business model that will fail and thus no one has any motivation or incentive to produce such products. What you have proposed is something that is already in existence and guess what, it doesn’t work. So you want to double down on something that doesn’t work? Why? Harmful products are on the market now with government approval. When they do harm someone the legal system allows for such maneuvering that the fines are negligible to the existence of their business. It’s all corrupt. However, at this point I don’t trust the individual to be responsible, so really we’re just fucked.
The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate, secretly and unobserved, an important part of the wealth of their citizens. — John Maynard Keynes