TBP POLL #50JFK

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Posted on 22nd November 2013 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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Today is the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination. I remember it well. I shit my pants when it happened. That was because I was six months old. I do remember pointing out to my parents that there seemed to be someone shooting from the grassy knoll, but they just ignored my gibberish.

I became fascinated by the assassination when I was a teenager and read some books and saw various documentaries. I also listened to the tape from the open microphone of one of the police motorcycles. I heard many more shots than were described in the Warren Commission Report. I have since visited Dallas, been in the Book Depository Building at the window where Oswald fired the shots, stood on the grassy knoll, and assessed for myself whether he acted alone. Based on the facts and percentages of hitting someone twice at that distance in a moving vehicle, I always believed there was a second shooter.

And, of course, the Seinfeld Magic Lugi episode clarified the issue.

So that brings us to our multi- question 50th anniversary poll.

 

1. Do you believe JFK was killed by a sole gunman?

A. Yes

B. No

 

2. Who was responsible for the assassination of JFK?

A. Lee Harvey Oswald alone

B. Lee Harvey Oswald on behalf of someone else

C. Castro

D. The Mafia

E. LBJ

F. Wall Street Bankers/Federal Reserve

G. Russia

H. CIA

I. The Jews

J. Military

K. All of the Above

L. None of the Above

M. Some of the Above

 

3. Why was JFK assassinated?

A. Cuban revenge for trying to assassinate Castro

B. Russian revenge for the Cuban Missile crisis

C. Mafia revenge because Bobby Kennedy was cracking down on the mob

D. His plan to take power away from the Federal Reserve through the issuance of Silver certificates

E. LBJ wanted to be President

F. Oswald was a nut

G. The Jews wanted the ability to make nuclear bombs

H. Military didn’t like that he was going to end our involvement in Vietnam

I. None of the Above

 

Let the conspiracy theories begin.

73 Comments
  1. Wage Slave says:

    1 – Yes, a sole gunman
    2 – A Oswald alone
    3 – F A nut case – although G is quite plausible

    22nd November 2013 at 8:51 am

  2. flash says:

    1: A
    2: M

    The truth is stranger than fiction…..or maybe not?
    http://stupefyingstoriesshowcase.com/0131108/0131108-10.html

    22nd November 2013 at 9:14 am

  3. Gayle says:

    I happened to see Oswald get blown away by Jack Ruby on live TV when I was a teenager. I knew then that something was fishy, and subsequent explanations did nothing to change my mind.

    1. B. not alone
    2. F/H. CIA and Fed Reserve interests
    3. D Fed Reserve but using A Cubans or C mafia to implement

    22nd November 2013 at 9:22 am

  4. Erasmus says:

    When Jackie clambered on the trunk of the car she was retrieving the back part of JFK’s skull. She carried this to the hospital and held it in case the doctors needed it….they didn’t. Jackie was a great woman. That incident resulted from a shot coming from the opposite direction of where Oswald was positioned. This is clear in the Zapruder film. http://gizmodo.com/stabilized-footage-of-the-jfk-assassination-is-unsettli-1465136863

    I haven’t a clue who is responsible or why….how could I. What I do know however is that our government lied and that is what is important. That should be the sole question…’did our government lie’..There is no need to arrive at conclusions because we can’t without a reopening of the Warren Commission. Good luck on that and therein lies the problem.

    22nd November 2013 at 9:42 am

  5. specie says:

    1. Multiple shooters
    2. Rothchilds/FederalReserve/Zionists/Wall Street/CIA/Mafia
    3. He wanted Americans to be free

    22nd November 2013 at 9:56 am

  6. Bostonbob says:

    Man that guy was a good shot.

    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:07 am

  7. Bostonbob says:

    Was that a choice?
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:15 am

  8. Maddie's Mom says:

    Sick of hearing about it.

    Even the Weather Channel was yapping about it.

    It was a horrible thing and who knows what really happened.

    Let’s move on.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:37 am

  9. harry p. says:

    1-B
    2-M
    3- Those a lot of power didn’t want to give any of it up and those with some power wanted more.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:45 am

  10. TPC says:

    1) B

    2) M

    3) Not sure. Without having a clear idea as to who did it, I really can’t begin to conjecture a motive.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:48 am

  11. TeresaE says:

    1. B, no way was the fool Oswold solely responsible.

    2. F/M, you know the banksters were behind it, he and his family were threatening their grand plans.

    3. D and the worldwide PTB.

    and, I’ll add,

    4. We have been lied to about every other major historical and present event, we ignore said evidence and shout down those that bring it up, statistically speaking their is no way that we weren’t lied to about this.

    RIP JFK, hope I someday get to meet you and find out the truth.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:48 am

  12. Bostonbob says:

    He should have ducked.
    Bob

    22nd November 2013 at 10:49 am

  13. Bostonbob says:

    Too bad at least we could see this president had brains.
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:50 am

  14. Bostonbob says:

    It’s Friday. I can’t help myself.
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:51 am

  15. Bostonbob says:

    It’s like a zombie buffet. They already cracked open the shell for you.
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:53 am

  16. Administrator says:

    Boston Bob channeling the ghost of Smokey. Well done.

    22nd November 2013 at 11:42 am

  17. Sensetti says:

    B
    F
    D

    It was and is a Big Fucking Deal

    22nd November 2013 at 11:44 am

  18. Sensetti says:

    I am going to take a guess @ how “Z” will vote.

    B
    I
    G

    22nd November 2013 at 11:47 am

  19. Fool on the hill says:

    Lady Bird Johnson…………………………..

    Majority stockholder in Bell Aircraft…………………..

    She was the power behind the commode upon which sat LBJ!!

    22nd November 2013 at 11:52 am

  20. Bostonbob says:

    You would have thought an Irishman could have taken more than one shot.
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 11:59 am

  21. Bostonbob says:

    I am going to have to assume that this is not an accepted form of birth control in the Catholic church.
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 12:00 pm

  22. Bostonbob says:

    One thing about Kennedy, you tell he was smart, he had plenty of brains to spread around.
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 12:02 pm

  23. Bostonbob says:

    Let me know if I go too far. Nah, don’t waste your time.
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 12:02 pm

  24. Olga says:

    That was the day a group of insiders discovered they could get away with murder because the American people believed whatever the MSM told them.

    I understand the term “conspiracy theory” was brought into play to disarm, through humiliation and fear, anyone who dared to question the official version.

    Fear of that label has become a “thought stopper”

    http://themindrenewed.com/interviews/2013/356-int-34

    Apparently JFK wanted peace and the MIC wanted something else.

    22nd November 2013 at 12:25 pm

  25. harry p. says:

    bostonbob
    +100
    hahaha, great stuff, keep them coming

    22nd November 2013 at 12:42 pm

  26. Bostonbob says:

    The gunman killed only as many people as Ted Kennedy’s Oldsmobile.
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 12:49 pm

  27. Didius Julianus says:

    1. Do you believe JFK was killed by a sole gunman?

    B. No

    2. Who was responsible for the assassination of JFK?

    E, F, H, and military industrial complex (not the military)

    3. Why was JFK assassinated?

    D, E, and military industrial complex (not the military)

    22nd November 2013 at 1:04 pm

  28. AWD says:

    It was the anti-christ, who is ageless, and can take any form in any year…..

    Obama-shooting-Dukes-610×471.jpg

    22nd November 2013 at 1:09 pm

  29. AWD says:

    Obama-shooting-Dukes-420×220.jpg

    22nd November 2013 at 1:10 pm

  30. bb says:

    Oswald was trained in the military to shoot.150 yard shot is not hard for someone trained to snipe.

    22nd November 2013 at 1:26 pm

  31. johnnyBoy says:

    Just finished a book that lays out the assassination pretty clearly, parties involved and their means and motive. So obviously a conspiracy. “Who Really Killed Kennedy” by Jerome Corsi. Well documented. Why isn’t he on television countering O’Reilly and his Oswald meme? Chapter two of the book really summarizes why a lone assassin, let alone an amateur like Oswald, could not have done it. Craig Roberts, a marine sniper in Vietnam, wrote the 1994 book: “Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza” He said, “The reason I KNEW that Oswald could not have done it, was because I could not have done it.” Also, one of the paragraphs in this chapter (and why I have always believed Oswald didn’t fire a shot that day) states:

    “The one final element needed (for the shooter) was experience. This could not be the first kill for any of the shooters or their accomplices. The adrenalin flow in seeing JFK alive and knowing you were about to assassinate the president of the United States required steely nerves only a proven sniper with a track record of success would have. An accurate sniper shot requires a smooth and precise trigger pull. Only shooters with the demonstrated ability to remain dispassionate and calculating–a skill not reliable without a proven track record–could get this particular job done. An amateur could be expected to fumble with the bolt action loading of an old World War II Italian Army rifle. Moreover, a high-powered scope that filled the shooter’s vision with a highly magnified vision of a small part of the target’s body might make finding and locking on the target more difficult for an amateur. One foul up and the target might be wounded but not killed, or the shooter might be detected and brought into custody. A professional team would not take amateur risks (JFK could not leave Dealey Plaza alive that day).”

    Good book.

    22nd November 2013 at 1:30 pm

  32. nof says:

    No one will ever know. Here is some more intrigue: http://whowhatwhy.com/2013/11/20/bush-and-the-jfk-hit-part-10-after-camelot/

    22nd November 2013 at 1:42 pm

  33. Billy says:

    bb

    “Oswald was trained in the military to shoot.150 yard shot is not hard for someone trained to snipe”

    You might want to rethink your bullshit statement.

    1. Oswald was NOT a trained sniper.
    2. The Carcano is arguably the junkiest boltgun ever foisted on an army.
    3. The Carcano was scoped, but NOT ZEROED. Do you know what that means?
    4. Target was at an unknown distance and moving at an oblique angle away from the shooter. Know what that means? It means you not only have to aim in front of your target, but also above it, which is kind of difficult to do, since you can guess what the range is at any given moment, but it will change the next moment…
    5. Oswald allegedly shot from the book repository… depository.. whatever… what it means is that he was shooting downhill… which changes the point of impact relative to point of aim.
    6. Given all this, Oswald got off 3 shots in 5 seconds (thereabouts) and scored two hits, including a head shot…

    It would take 15 consecutive miracles for him to pull that off… and he probably had a jacked up heart rate from moving boxes of books, making his hide… and also jacked on adrenaline from the thought of what he was about to do…

    So… If I give you a junky rifle that hasn’t been zeroed at all, and tell you to shoot at a target the size of a person’s head, which just happens to be at an unknown distance, moving at an unknown speed at an oblique angle away from you, AND you have to do it shooting downhill, AND you have to get 3 shots off in 5 seconds…. could you do it?

    22nd November 2013 at 1:46 pm

  34. Olga says:

    JFK: A Conspiracy Theory

    watch?v=oJFzhbNd1EI

    22nd November 2013 at 1:54 pm

  35. Olga says:

    JFK: A Conspiracy Theory

    22nd November 2013 at 1:55 pm

  36. bb says:

    Oswald was a trained marksman not long out of the Marine Core.He would have the ability ,knowledge and skill to kill anybody including Kennedy.At the time he was a self-style Marxist who had grown to hate America through that ideology.Big ?for me has always been why Ruby killed Oswald.I don’t think he ever gave a reason.

    22nd November 2013 at 1:58 pm

  37. Bostonbob says:

    Why was JFK Jr flying that night? Teddy Kennedy offered him a lift.

    Bob

    22nd November 2013 at 2:02 pm

  38. Bostonbob says:

    How do the Kennedy’s teach their children how to swim? First you get out of the vehicle and float to the surface. JFK Jr did not know how to swim.

    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 2:04 pm

  39. Bostonbob says:

    Why did Maria Shriver marry Arnold Schwarzenegger? To breed a bullet-proof, drown-proof Kennedy that could ski.

    22nd November 2013 at 2:05 pm

  40. Bostonbob says:

    JFK and Bobby walk into a bar and the bartender says,
    “What’ll it be?”
    JFK says, “Give us a couple of shooters.”

    Now I am just getting lazy.

    Bob

    22nd November 2013 at 2:07 pm

  41. Bostonbob says:

    What’s the difference between Amy Fischer and Teddy Kennedy?
    Teddy killed his Mary Jo.

    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 2:07 pm

  42. bb says:

    Harry ,you just another conspiracy fool.I bet you believe 9-11was done by CIA.I bet you believe in aliens from outer space and unicorns.

    22nd November 2013 at 2:08 pm

  43. Bostonbob says:

    Okay, just one more:

    What do they call road kill in Dallas?
    “Mr. President.”

    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 2:08 pm

  44. Mary Malone says:

    @BostonBob Thanks for the dark humor. Very Irish. Very, very funny.

    22nd November 2013 at 2:10 pm

  45. Bostonbob says:

    I can’t help myself:

    How did Jackie Kennedy learn about politics?
    By picking her husband’s brain.

    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 2:10 pm

  46. Bostonbob says:

    In the holiday spirit:

    Twelve days of kennedy

    On November 22nd, who killed Kennedy?
    A lone nut by the name of Lee

    On November 22nd, who killed Kennedy?
    2 Mafia thugs
    and a lone nut by the name of Lee

    On November 22nd, who killed Kennedy?
    3 federal agents
    2 Mafia thugs
    and a lone nut by the name of Lee

    On November 22nd, who killed Kennedy?
    4 Cuban hitmen
    3 federal agents
    2 Mafia thugs
    and a lone nut by the name of Lee

    On November 22nd, who killed Kennedy?
    The Dallas P.D.
    4 Cuban hitmen
    3 federal agents
    2 Mafia thugs
    and a lone nut by the name of Lee
    :
    :
    :
    :
    On November 22nd, who killed Kennedy?
    12 space invaders
    11 ninja masters
    10 Nazi soldiers
    9 Postal workers
    8 right wing loonies
    7 corporate interests
    6 Russian snipers
    the Dallas P.D.
    4 Cuban hitmen
    3 federal agents
    2 Mafia thugs
    and a lone nut by the name of Lee

    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 2:27 pm

  47. Billy says:

    bb

    Please, just shut the fuck up… not only are you ignorant, but you’re pig headed as well- You are WRONG, but you refuse to admit BEING wrong.

    Let me show you why you are wrong as I tear your post into little pieces of failure…

    You – “Oswald was a trained marksman not long out of the Marine Core. He would have the ability ,knowledge and skill to kill anybody including Kennedy.”

    - It’s Marine CORPS. Not “Core”.

    - Oswald was a Radar Operator, NOT Combat Infantry and certainly no “sniper”.

    - Oswald was, at best, a mediocre shot. From Wiki:

    “Like all Marines, Oswald was trained and tested in shooting and he scored 212 in December 1956, slightly above the requirements for the designation of sharpshooter. In May 1959 he scored 191, which reduced his rating to marksman.”

    - Oswald left the Marines in ’59. Kennedy was assassinated in ’63, over four years later. “..not long out of the Marine Core.”? Shooting is a perishable skill and without constant training, your skill deteriorates. He fled to the Soviet Union in 59, and I’m PRETTY SURE they don’t have regular training sessions at the local rifle range for defectors…

    There are other vets on this board other than me. From previous posts, you know I was a Lifer, about half of that spent in Infantryland. Like any Infantryman, if you show promise and there is a need (and budget), you are sent to certain schools… I HAVE those schools. You memorize important minutae – things like your comeups at different ranges, what different rounds do at different distances, why your POI is different than your POA if you are aiming uphill or down, wind drift and, at extreme ranges, how the turning of the earth under your bullet as it flies affects where it will impact (a phenomenon coined “rolling on air” by the early buffalo hunters)… and then, just because you are human and humans forget stuff, you tape your comeups and holdoffs to the left side of your rifle butt with acetate as a quick reference…

    It’s a good bet that Oswald probably knew none of that. Now throw in the fact that the Carcano is a piece of shit rifle. I would use one as a tomato stake, but only if I had to. His rifle was UNZEROED- meaning it could hit any-fucking-where. Even if he had it boresighted, it would still need to be zeroed with the ammo he was going to use because different ammo behaves differently out of the same rifle. Even “identical” ammo will differ from lot to lot (which is why serious marksmen buy ammo by the lot, or just forgo that and handload using the most consistent components), meaning they will shoot to a different POI.

    His target was moving, which is difficult enough, but it was moving at an oblique angle- moving left to right, but away from him at an angle. A very difficult shot.

    He was aiming downhill. I do not know the exact angle, but it was significant enough to change his POA/POI… so, he had to lead his target, but aim above it, yet take into account that it’s moving away from him, and that he was aiming downhill…

    Oswald didn’t have the training or the professional chops to make that shot. No way in HELL. The Marines were training at the time with the Garand and the M14, neither of which has a scope.

    And, the last point- the human factor.

    You ever been in combat? A shoot/no-shoot situation? Ever been hunting? Know what “buck fever” is?

    Your heartbeat accelerates. So does your breathing. Your palms sweat. Adrenaline floods your system. Even for highly trained guys, these are issues. The rifle butt sits on the artery running through the shoulder, so your heartbeat actually moves the rifle. You try to remember ‘breathe in, breathe out, sight picture, breathe in, breathe out, hold it… squeeze the trigger”… and your body is fighting you the whole way…

    Oswald didn’t have the chops to make the shot. He was a pogue. The only thing he ever did in his life that was worth a shit was leave the United States.

    22nd November 2013 at 3:24 pm

  48. jay says:

    Even by looking at the raw footage, it appears the point of impact was on JFK’s forehead. His entire skull was ripped off.

    But if he was shot from the depository, wouldn’t the back of his skull be blown off?

    It’s a shame that defenders of the Establishment can even have the courage to come on TBP and spew reasoning for why Oswald was capable of firing a precision shot at a downward angle while the vehicle was moving. Especially after we’ve seen our country devolve into a decaying welfare/warfare state the past 13 years. After we’ve seen the World Trade Centers come down in what was unmistakenably a controlled demolition. Especially after we’ve invaded foriegn countries like Iraq and have found no evidence of WMDs, as proposed by the traitor Bush. Especially after our country has consistently spent more then 52 percent of our national budget on war when most countries couldn’t challenge us even if our budget was 15 percent, much less a group of ragtag “terrorists”, our purported enemy.

    Especially after we’ve seen our national debt double under Obama, and our currency continously becoming less valuable as inflation invades our supermarkets.

    Would a sound leadership allow all of this to happen? Would a sound leadership tap the electronic airwaves of our innocent citizens and their allies? Use government agencies to target those that are speaking out against the corruption?

    Pretty soon, the internet may even become censored. And sites like this will cease to exist.

    22nd November 2013 at 3:35 pm

  49. Bostonbob says:

    This is Friday, right? Why is everyone so serious?
    Bob.

    22nd November 2013 at 4:04 pm

  50. efarmer says:

    BBob, everyone is waiting on the edge of their seats for Friday Fail.

    Don’t fuck it up for us.

    EF

    22nd November 2013 at 4:16 pm

  51. T4C says:

    Don’t know who actually directed the event, and apparently some of the SS didn’t either.

    22nd November 2013 at 6:00 pm

  52. SSS says:

    Oswald killed JFK and acted alone. And he was not a “nut.” He was an immature and driven pro-Castro Marxist. Period. End of story.

    Well, not quite the end. I’ll entertain any plausible involvement of Fidel Castro. Otherwise, take a fucking hike.

    22nd November 2013 at 6:57 pm

  53. bb says:

    Billy ,I could have made that shot and you prove nothing.

    22nd November 2013 at 7:09 pm

  54. Zarathustra says:

    1. Do you believe JFK was killed by a sole gunman?
    B. No

    2. Who was responsible for the assassination of JFK?
    B. Lee Harvey Oswald on behalf of someone else
    D. The Mafia
    E. LBJ
    F. Wall Street Bankers/Federal Reserve
    H. CIA (possibly)
    I. The Jews

    3. Why was JFK assassinated?
    D. His plan to take power away from the Federal Reserve through the issuance of Silver certificates
    E. LBJ wanted to be President
    G. The Jews wanted the ability to make nuclear bombs

    22nd November 2013 at 7:15 pm

  55. IndenturedServant says:

    bb

    Please, just shut the fuck up… not only are you ignorant, but you’re pig headed as well-

    Oh no! bb’s cover is blown!

    All you had to do was hold your head underwater for 15 minutes bb like I said and you could have avoided this unfortunate, yet factual pronouncement.
    I_S

    22nd November 2013 at 7:36 pm

  56. Zarathustra says:

    SSS, resident spook and expert in all things CIA says:

    “Oswald killed JFK and acted alone. And he was not a “nut.” He was an immature and driven pro-Castro Marxist. Period. End of story.

    Well, not quite the end. I’ll entertain any plausible involvement of Fidel Castro. Otherwise, take a fucking hike.”

    Yup. No hike taken here. It is perfectly normal for the secret service to abandon a presidential motorcade seconds before an assassination attempt:

    22nd November 2013 at 8:09 pm

  57. SSS says:

    Zara

    Your film clip has been repeatedly endlessly and falls in the “So what?” category. It led nowhere.

    I await flashes’ responses to my questions. That too will lead nowhere, as I have painted him into a box. I love the smell of burning paint in the morning.

    22nd November 2013 at 8:22 pm

  58. Zarathustra says:

    SSS, as does the Big Bang. It has been repeated endlessly and falls in the “So what” category. It led nowhere. God created the world in seven days. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a conspiracy nut and a loon.

    22nd November 2013 at 9:15 pm

  59. SSS says:

    Zara compares the JFK assassination to the Big Bang theory. Tough to do, but damned if he didn’t give it a shot. Must be something to do with the time change in moving from Oregon to Texas.

    Flash is missing in action.

    22nd November 2013 at 9:22 pm

  60. bb says:

    I S , why are you still so ill, did you hurt your foot again ? I am going to take out my voodoo doll and pronounce a curse on you.Now I am going to stab you in your good foot.Give you something to really bitch about.It may take a couple days but you in deep shit now boy!!!!

    22nd November 2013 at 10:18 pm

  61. Bruce says:

    I’m not sure what to believe about the JFK assignation. I do feel that he was the last real president of the USA. If you could draw a line to mark where USA began the long morph into the USSA one of the most probable places to put it would be between the presidency’s of JFK and LBJ.

    Who would benefit by the removal of JFK? The list would have been very long. Who would benefit from the installation of LBJ? That list would also have been very long. Many of the beneficiaries may have hated JFK but most probably never entertained the actual murder of anyone. Never the less the course of this nation might have been very different if JFK had lived. A highly probable turning point in our republic’s history. Things might not necessarily have been better ……..but could have been different especially if the Fed was dismantled or a powerful movement to remove it was formed.

    One thing I am sure of is that there is a good chance that the official story is bullshit. The Government rarely seems to tell the truth and when they do it is almost certain not be the whole truth, even if for the benign reason that the whole truth in all it’s detail would bore the shit out of every one.

    22nd November 2013 at 10:48 pm

  62. Chicago999444 says:

    I believe that Oswald was hired to kill him, and that the Cuban exile community in Miami had a major hand in it.

    Up until the 90s, JFK was the 2nd most-hated man in Miami, topped only by Fidel Castro. The reason for the animosity of the Cuban community was that Kennedy and his team quite deliberately and cynically reneged on their stated promise to liberate Cuba from Castro, a promise that Kennedy never had the first intention of keeping, and that it would not have served the interests of the US to follow through on… and that should never have been made.

    There are some people you just don’t play Use Them and Lose Them with, like the Mob, and the old exile community in Miami. Watch who you cross.

    22nd November 2013 at 11:29 pm

  63. Billy says:

    bb

    “Billy ,I could have made that shot and you prove nothing.”

    Now you’re just foot stamping.

    And you couldn’t hit a bull in the ass with a base fiddle.

    22nd November 2013 at 11:34 pm

  64. juan says:

    Billy, don’t pay no mind to bb, he’s a nice kid living in his mom’s basement and trolling is his way of life. Sad shame his wife left him, he ain’t been the same since. Some people can deal with it, bb wasn’t so lucky. Poor cocksucker. Damn waste of a load of semen.

    23rd November 2013 at 12:03 am

  65. bb says:

    Billy,you would be surprised by what I can do with my 308gun scout rifle.Bolt action ,10 round mag.Love it

    23rd November 2013 at 6:04 am

  66. bb says:

    T4c ,I have never said anything about harming children or anyone else for that matter.Besides why do you care what I said .You said I was dead as far as you where concerned.But I must be doing something right because you couldn’t resist paying me a little attention even if it was to insult.WANT TO KISS AND MAKE UP?

    23rd November 2013 at 6:19 am

  67. Kill Bill says:

    JFK, Elvis and Saddam did not die…they are having Martins on the French Riviera.

    23rd November 2013 at 7:54 pm

  68. Mnt says:

    Ok two things here. 1.) why has no one mentioned the deathbed confession of e Howard hunt?

    2.) how come everybody talks about JFK like he was a saint? His father was bootlegging monster who likely bought the election for him. He was a filanderer to the degree of making a porn star blush. The whole family is a bunch of scumbags. For Christ sake the fat fucker killed his jail bait driving drunk.

    The Kennedy’s rank right up there in the running of disingenuous elites scumbags with the rest of them. Tell history accurately!

    Ok and one more thing – shame on you fucking morons saying Oswald did it alone!!!

    23rd November 2013 at 8:17 pm

  69. Mnt says:

    *mobster

    23rd November 2013 at 8:19 pm

  70. Zarathustra says:

    Mnt, you cannot blame a son for the sins of his father. In the case of JFK, he clearly attempted to rise above them.

    23rd November 2013 at 11:29 pm

  71. Billy says:

    bb

    “Billy,you would be surprised by what I can do with my 308gun scout rifle.Bolt action ,10 round mag.Love it”

    I doubt it.

    Owning something does not automatically make one an expert in it’s use. Or even proficient.

    If you want to impress me, tell me how many rounds you burned practicing last year.

    Currently, I’m trying to push a little South American contract Mauser 98 short rifle as far as I can. Bedding the action, floating the barrel. Found a set of German high mount scope rings and mounts correct for the rifle. Fitted an old steel tube El Paso Weaver K10 to it and I’m experimenting with different brass/primer/powder/projectile combinations to see what yields the best accuracy. I might rebarrel it. I might not. Depends on how much effort I want to put into it.

    Tell you what, hotshot. You want talk shit rights? Then do what we did- Measure off 500 yards. Take a 2×2 about 3 feet long and hammer it into the ground. Then take one standard issue chicken egg and set it on top. Go back to the firing line and start shooting- tell me how many shots it took for you to hit that egg.

    24th November 2013 at 1:47 am

  72. Frenchie says:

    +100 Billy

    I ever shot a Carcano, a mauser K98, a mas-36, a Garand, a Mosin M44, a SVT40, an Enfield…
    3 shots in 5 seconds on a moving target, at 150 yards with at least 30° angle and with a Carcano?
    BULL-FUCKING-SHIT
    the only bolt action rifle from WW2, that I think about, that could MAYBE allow to place 2 shots, not 3, in this time lap is the Swiss K31 with the regular military scope. no need to say that you have to be a darn good shooter even with the best rifle of that category.
    may I precise that I already owned one?
    those who believe Oswald did it alone can start writing their letter to Santa.

    24th November 2013 at 5:00 am

  73. Billy says:

    Frenchie

    +1

    The Swiss K31 is an outstanding rifle and I tend to agree with you. For a battle rifle, it is extremely accurate and does have a fast followup shot.

    Some boltguns are faster than others. Fastest boltgun I ever shot was the Steyr SSG 69.

    The Carcano, in addition to being a piece of monkey shit, doesn’t even have the bolt handle over the trigger, which means you have to move your hand farther just to reach the bolt (unlike better-designed rifles), which increases your followup time… don’t even get me started on the quality of Italian WWII surplus ammunition…

    24th November 2013 at 12:32 pm

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