This is the spoiled rich kid sitting in his BMW parked at a beach in Southern California that killed 7 people at UC Santa Barbara. What a demented scumbag. This is the kind of kid being produced by our egotistical, selfish, materialistic society. Blaming others for your own failings is common place. No one takes responsibility for their own failures. Another opportunity for the teleprompter in chief to display fake compassion and push for more gun laws before hitting the links for another round.
Seven Dead, Seven Injured in Isla Vista ‘Mass Murder’ Shooting
Sheriff Calls Rampage the ‘Work of a Madman’
By Tyler Hayden (Contact), Matt Kettmann (Contact)
A lone gunman killed six people and injured seven more during a shooting rampage Friday night in Isla Vista that Sheriff Bill Brown called “the work of a madman.” The suspect was killed after firing on responding deputies, but it’s not clear if the fatal wound to his head was self-inflicted or the result of return fire.
The seven injured victims are being treated at Santa Barbara Cottage hospital — some for gunshot wounds, others for trauma sustained when the suspect crashed his car as he was pursued — and one recently underwent surgery for life-threatening injuries.
Initial reports suggested that two suspects were involved in the shooting, but Brown said during a 2:30 a.m. press conference Saturday morning that the gunman acted alone. Brown said the man was armed with a semi-automatic handgun and that investigators are working to determine if other weapons were involved.
The names of the victims and the suspect have not been released. Brown, however, confirmed that written and video material left by 22-year-old Elliot Rodger of Calabasas in the hours and days leading up to the shooting is being reviewed as evidence in the massacre. “It appears to be connected,” he said.
In a YouTube video titled “Elliot Rodger’s Retribution” and posted the day before the shooting, Rodger — a Santa Barbara City College Student and Isla Vista resident, according to his social media accounts — laments his life of “loneliness, rejection, and unfulfilled desires.” He blames women for throwing themselves at “obnoxious brutes” but rejecting him, “the supreme gentlemen.”
In graphic and unsettling detail, he describes how he plans to launch an assault on the streets of Isla Vista the next day and become a God who “exacts my retribution on all those who deserve it.” Photographs taken by The Santa Barbara Independent of the suspect’s crashed vehicle on Del Playa Drive show a license plate number that matches the one on the car featured on Rodger’s Facebook page.
Perhaps we will never know, but …
was he on any type of “mind altering” pharmaceutical drugs?
That seems to be a recurring theme in mass murders.
I read and listened to his rambling. Comes down to not being able to get any pussy from the little girls and being envious of those who could. Killing and dying because of pussy and envy.Pride then envy and hate then murder. Kinda like it says in the bible but what does GOD know.?
Wow, that is a seriously depraved young man. He should run for office.
he was playing the stereotypical role of a psycho, that laugh… I kept waiting for him to put his pinky to his mouth and say, “unless you pay me, one billlllionnnn dollars…. “
“In a YouTube video titled “Elliot Rodger’s Retribution” and posted the day before the shooting…”
And and the NSA did nothing to prevent the killing?
Isn’t it amazing?
“….. was he on any type of “mind altering” pharmaceutical drugs?”
—-Big Ben
Of course he was. A zillion dollars says he was. Make that 2 zillion.
But we will never know. His medical records will be sealed, never to be released to the public. His fucking libtard, rich Hollywood director daddy will see to that. The fucking libtards in the Santa Barbara city government will see to that. The fucking libtards running the U of C school system will see to that. The fucking libtards running the entire government of California will see to that. All done at the holy altar of “privacy.” Total lockdown. Despite the fucking fact that he’s a 22 yr old adult who is fucking DEAD.
Here we go with another fucking libtard round of gun control. Rinse, repeat. Those fucking libtard bastards NEVER point the finger at psychotropic drugs. Never. Why? Because they feed them to their spoiled, unruly children like cotton candy. And now it’s biting them in the ass big time.
Unreal he is the very thing he complains about. He was just left out.
Hmmm,
His dad was assistant director on “Hunger Games”, a movie about young people brutally murdering other young people. A coincidence? Meds aside, how often is the line between entertainment and reality blurred, especially in kids these days that stare at their phone 24/7, who have lost the ability to think for themselves, and live in a society where anything goes and nothing matters?
Kids are brainwashed, narcissist Facebook watchers who can barely even communicate in person any longer. Narcissism and techno-narcissism are dangerous, but everyone laughs it off, it’s so much fun feeling important and seeing your life on a little phone screen. There isn’t such a thing as reality for kids these days, except videos and phones. It’s their entire world. As such, their mental pathology is potentially almost limitless.
This fuck made a video, wrote a manifesto, and posted everything. I’m sure he saw himself like he was in a video game, and/or he knew the fame he would achieve. This type of thing is going to happen more and more as our society drifts ever more into unreality and self-centered narcissism. And, in my opinion, it starts at the top. Our president is a pathological lying sack of shit; incompetent, a narcissist in extremis. Obama is a symptom, as is this psycho loser, of a much bigger problem, the loss of truth, the loss of the soul.
The whole thing is very sad to me. Especially for the six people he killed and seven more he wounded before blowing out his own useless brain.
We will never be able to stop this senseless slaughter until we all do a Golden Old West and start both open and concealed carry. Even so, unless the sick bastard takes the first move, you are powerless to prevent any killing —- unless you come across it in action and then blow the bastard away.
I’ve got a shotgun (one in the chamber, 5 in the magazine – #2 buck shot) behind the bedroom door and between me and anyone who comes uninvited into the castle. I’ve got a .38 special Air Weight Chiefs Special in the bedside table, a Keltec .380 in my vehicle center console and a .22 Mag single action in the den desk drawer. I also have a permit to carry which I exercise regularly and my only regret is the Florida allows “concealed” but no open carry.
I take great comfort in this prep – take them all to the range once two months and run a magazine through each and every one. Clean ’em and stow them and hope I NEVER need to use any of them.
The peace of mind, however, is priceless.
MA
“The family of the suspected gunman who shot dead six people and injured seven others near a Santa Barbara, California, university Friday night called the police several weeks ago after being alarmed by YouTube videos he posted “regarding suicide and the killing of people,” an attorney for the family has said.
“Attorney Alan Shifman said police conducted an investigation and interviewed Rodger, finding him to be a “perfectly polite, kind and wonderful human.”
“The cops did not find a history of guns, but did say Rodger “didn’t have a lot of friends,” had trouble making friends and didn’t have any girlfriends, Shifman added.”
This kid must have done some slick acting when “investigated” by police. Some investigation…did they check if he had legally purchased weapons? Will we ever know? Probably not, for if he did, that would signal the deaths as preventable, at least if they were able to confiscate those weapons ahead of time and the police would be labeled as incompetent (which they usually are anyway). Maybe he got the gun(s) after the interview with police.
Either way, this is senseless and tragic.
Insane ramblings about being a virgin when he could have driven to a Nevada whore house after breakfast , lost his virginity, and been back home in time for supper the same day.
As usual, the public will never be informed as to what really set this wacko kid off.
“This kid must have done some slick acting when “investigated” by police. Some investigation…did they check if he had legally purchased weapons? Will we ever know? Probably not, for if he did, that would signal the deaths as preventable, at least if they were able to confiscate those weapons ahead of time and the police would be labeled as incompetent (which they usually are anyway). Maybe he got the gun(s) after the interview with police.”
—-Rise Up
Jesus Christ, it’s all about fucking guns, isn’t it? I cannot tell you how fucking BORING this conversation is getting. IT’S THE GODDAMNED DRUGS, STUPID.
I didn’t get my first until I was 23. It was the best 7 seconds of my life.
I was waiting for him to say, “Hello Clarice…” A mini Hannibal Lector driving a Bimmer.
He should be the poster child for why U should carry a gun, but retards will say we have to take them away. Intellectually lazy.
He probably stole the gun from the dumbass cops when they were eating donuts during the interview. He offered them some glazed or jelly centered & swiped the gun when they walked by.
Leobeer says:
“I didn’t get my first until I was 23. It was the best 7 seconds of my life.”
Leo, the original one-pump chump, could you give us more details? Even in describing the greatest event in anyone’s life, Leo is succinct.
Colleges should institute the 10+1 rule to improve campus security.
After sleeping with 10 jocks, female students would be required to do one
charity fuck with a socialy inept looser.
It suounds outrageous, but guarantee a 100% reduction in
mass shootings. It’s not a Christian solution, but considering the
moral condition of the nation, pragmatic solutions are
called for.
Here are six items from this psycho’s “manifesto”
The cops had this guy, and let him go. Not to mention the NSA, which spies on everyone, failed to stop him. He grew up in a broken home, and hated his step mother. If you read between the lines, the kid was obviously a homosexual, unable to accept it, thus blaming women, wanting to persecute women. He had a void in his life filled with violent video games. His narcissism is on full display, and his being divorced from reality (the defining characteristic of a psychopath).
You can’t tell me nobody knew this kid was a psycho, and nobody did anything about it.
6. Rodger details throughout his manifesto that he filled a void in his life with violent video games starting at a young age.
5. Police visited him after he uploaded a series of disturbing YouTube videos. They left and he said he was thankful “all suspicion” of him was later “dropped.”
4. He planned to kill people by first luring them into his apartment and then wrote he would sneak into a sorority house and “slaughter every single one of them with my guns and knives” before driving to his father’s house to kill his little brother and stepmom.
2. In his perfect society, Rodger would be the Earth’s “divine ruler,” where he would quarantine all women in concentration camps and then starve them to death.
1. The 22-year-old wrote that “the ultimate evil behind sexuality is the human female.” He added that they “think like beasts” and “should not have the right to choose who to mate and breed with.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/05/24/six-absolutely-stunning-details-from-suspected-santa-barbara-shooters-141-page-manifesto/
Z,
LOL, what would we do without a mind like yours on TBP. He was a real pretty boy and would have made a good politican.
Loebeer,
Seven seconds, priceless LOL
Well, I was right. Elliot Rodger WAS on at least one psychotropic drug. How do I know? The Los Angeles Time just published Rodger’s written “manifesto.” Here’s what Elliot said, in his own words.
“To end my life, I will quickly swallow all of the Xanax and Vicodin pills I have left, along with an ample amount of hard liquor. Immediately after imbibing this mixture, I will shoot myself in the head with two of my handguns simultaneously. If the gunshots don’t kill me, the deadly drug mixture eventually will. I will not suffer being captured and sent to prison.”
Alprazolam (trade name Xanax), is a psychoactive drug. Alprazolam is commonly used for the medical treatment of panic and anxiety disorders, such as social anxiety disorder. It is known to induce aggression, rage, and hostility.
Indeed it can.
Maybe the slobbering brat sat thought one to many Hollywood spun love-the-slut-for who she is- flicks and stark reality couldn’t coalesce with his fantasy?
http://www.voxday.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-source-of-misogyny.html
The irony is that sexually successful men who generally hold women in contempt and are so often labeled “misogynous” neither hate nor harm women. It is the romantic, but sexually rejected young men who erroneously place women on pedestals they do not deserve that eventually come to hate women, once they finally realize that everything they were taught about the opposite sex was nothing but a pack of pretty gargantuan lies.
It’s not the men who laugh at women and disrespect them that are dangerous, it is the men who consider them to be pure and virtuous beings and romantically pine for them. Because, sooner or later, they are going to notice the dichotomy between what they believe of women and how women actually behave in an unrestricted environment.
Notice the equalitarianism too. Who, but a believer in the myth of equality, can conceive of “the crime of living a better life than me”? Vox Day
In any case , SSS is correct.It will be all about the guns and nothing about the debauchery that pervades the hedonistic shopping mall culture we dare call civilized.
Santa Barbara Killings
Butler Shaffer
The young man who went on a rampage and killed a number of women college students allegedly had made some earlier videos expressive of his disappointment that girls showed no interest in him. His videos spoke of the “unfairness” and “injustice” of it all. Based on what has thus far been reported on television, this man did NOT say: “guns are forcing me to do what I really do not want to do; guns are forcing me to kill others.” This point will be overlooked by the gun-control league, whose members wish to deprive potential victims of a means of protecting themselves; the same control-freaks who, in other contexts, continue to preach to immature and troubled minds the dogmas of “fairness” and “justice” and the violent enforcement of expectations on others. If we are desirous of understanding the causal connections of events in our lives, does any of this offer insight?
5:40 pm on May 24, 2014
” It is the romantic, but sexually rejected young men who erroneously place women on pedestals they do not deserve that eventually come to hate women”
This is why I always hated the mentality that placed women apart from humanity on a “pedestal”,making a diety of the imaginary “ideal” woman who is always physically beautiful in all weathers, never angry, never needy, and above the usual human urges and needs. The minute a girl displayed any traits that detracted from this image, such as a capacity for anger, or ordinary lust and neediness, she fell off the “pedestal” and ended up underneath it.
I never wanted to be idealized in that fashion. I never wanted worship. I have no notion that being a woman makes me morally superior. All I ever wanted was recognition as a human being.
@Chicago999444: Sorry to have to disagree with you (a little bit!). I love women. All women. they are wonders of the world to the male animal.
‘Tis true that some are needy, angry, illogical or a just plain pain in the ass but that doesn’t reduce the fantastic testronic (new word!) rush I get from observing a smart, well conditioned, female who is independent, knows her mind, needs and is fully aware of her capabilities.
Were I a wee bit younger, I’d probably follow her around (as unobtrusively as possible) quietly drooling and hoping for an opportunity for her to trip over me!
Ah! Dream on.
MA
Useless fucking thread. I expected better from this crowd. Instead, I read flippant shit from “Das Arschloch” (German for asshole). Stucky strikes again and thinks he’s cute.
You stand around stunned time and time again after these killings like some goddamned monkeys with their thumbs up their noses. No fucking clue what to do, so let’s talk about men versus women or the first piece of ass you got.
Well, guess what? There’s another killing spree just like this one, and dozens before it, right on the horizon. Coming your way? Maybe, maybe not. But it’s coming. Wait for it, monkeys.
SSS says:
“Stucky strikes again and thinks he’s cute.”
And yet, it is a story that repeats the Columbine storyline: nerdy loner kids on drugs attack jocks and the women who love them. Even in a sexually liberal world it is possible to find a sexually repressed individual, one obsessed with women as the unattainable object of desire. Arschloch may simply be trying to make the connection between killers and women-haters, particularly those with mother issues. This was not lost on the folks who commented on what they consider a healthy mind-crotch balance.
Our traffic school instructor said he was surprised to find he is considered a member of the club, he got a pass from a local LEO. MoJo has an interesting article that seems to suggest bail bondsmen are also members of this club.
My boss called it ‘an unwritten rule’ whenever he wanted to make an exception for a particular person. I believe there actually is such a thing since my son got off a couple of tight spots by conveniently mentioning that his uncles were LEOs.
OJ enjoyed the ‘unwritten rule’ privilege and apparently, so did this kid.
SSS: I suggest you spend some time at the Chatteau Heartist, the world famous cemetery of pious lies. They have a very keen understanding of the problems leading to these events.
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BTW, just to be clear, the Christian Way to address these problems is to pair up boys and girls in an expedient manner – let’s say age 22 – and channel the sexual energy into productive activities. But that would be hard sell in post-civilizational America.
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Things we don’t know.
1) Was Elliot Rodger fucked up before he started taking the medz? (I would assume so.)
2) Did he take his medz as prescribed? If so, can you be sure this wouldn’t have happened if he wasn’t taking medz?
3) How many tragedies like this don’t happen because others do take the medz as prescribed?
I agree with SSS that this will happen over and over. I agree with SSS that some drugs really fuck up some people. I do believe that medications of this nature are over prescribed.
However, psychotropic drugs do help many people. I don’t believe for a minute that if mood altering drugs were outlawed that tragedies like this one would never happen. SOME PEOPLE ARE TRULY FUCKED UP and do horrible things. Don’t blame drugs (or guns),
IT’S THE GODDAMNED PEOPLE, STUPID
@ Leobeer
“These are very potent, powerful medications that can have very serious side effects, and we don’t know the effects on a developing brain.”
—-Dr. David Rubin, medical research scientist at Children’s Hospital, Philadelphia
My comments on psychotropic drugs have always been directed at giving them to children, adolescents, and young adults under the age of 25. Why? Because the brain is still maturing in that age group.
Did you catch the 3 key words in Dr. Rubin’s comment? “We don’t know.” WTF? We’re using our young as lab rats when it comes to psychotropic drugs.
I don’t doubt for a second that psychotropic drugs have helped many people, mainly MATURE ADULTS, for whom the drugs are generally safe. The young, not so much.
I want a national dialogue on this issue, not another damn cover up. Let’s get started.
SSS, I hate big pharma and agree with everything you said in the above post.
My only point is WE DON”T KNOW what caused Elliot Rodger to do what he did. Don’t be so quick to blame his medications.
“My only point is WE DON”T KNOW what caused Elliot Rodger to do what he did. Don’t be so quick to blame his medications.”
—-Leobeer
You need to go to the website SSRIstories.org. It’ll change your mind.
I came across his “manifesto” the night this happened and read the entire thing- I found it repetitive, and at the same time riveting.
My take away was that a combination of factors went into the construction of this monster- if the story was in fact authentic.
First was the failure of his sire and dam (there’s little in the tome to indicate that they deserved the title of ‘parents’) to make any correct choices during the time he was in their custody. To abandon a child to video games for the vast majority of his developmental life- at age thirteen he was spending as much as 12 hours a day playing videos by himself-is like locking an animal in a cell.
Second was the constant use of reward to address failure. Drop out of school? Upgraded video gaming system. Drop out of college? Brand new BMW. I don’t know if the family ever heard of Pavlov, but in retrospect I bet they wished they had.
Entitlement mentality. The constant and unrelenting sense of “I deserve” and “I am owed” minus any effort on his part to do anything- chores, cleaning up behind himself, manual labor, paying his own way- can lead to one destiny when those demands are not met. I deserve a meal at the end of the day because I worked hard for it, I planted the vegetables, tended the animals, harvested the crop and cooked the meal. Being hungry does not entitle anyone to anything except being hungry. In this young man’s mind the entitlement was based on the want alone. The reinforcement he received indicated that he was correct in his assumption.
The faux affluence of his family- sports cars, nannies, swag, the neighborhoods they chose to live in, the restaurants they ate at, the premiers they attended, the trips they took abroad would indicate a level of wealth that they clearly didn’t possess based on accomplishments that were minimal at best. Clearly this was a family that spent every effort pretending to be something they were not at the cost of sacrificing the one thing that they were-parents. When appearance trumps reality, you’re going to wind up with problems under the best of circumstances.
The racial aspect of his anger. That was a constant thread throughout his life. That his birth parents were unconcerned with the concept of race and culture signified their sophistication and cosmopolitanism in the era in which we lived, but for him it became an obsession. Human beings are like plants in that they need roots. Sever us from out historical place and we wither and die. Again, what can be maintained under the most perfect of circumstances does not mean that it is the preferred means for running a successful family never mind a culture or civilization. To each his own, of course, but consequences must be dealt with. Expecting our equally race obsessed government/media/culture to mention this when the victims are White is highly unlikely- which explains the inordinately brief time this crime remained front page news.
Pharmaceuticals. Don’t know if was on them, but I’d bet the farm he was. The toxic cocktail of everything mentioned above appears to have been fatal.
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