Yes, the Iraq War Was All for Nothing

Yes, the Iraq War Was All for Nothing

Iraq

As stories circulated of Iraqi cities falling to Sunni militia groups, I was struck by the words of Former Marine Staff Sgt. Keith Widaman, who spent a tour in Iraq: “When I left in April 2009, I said, ‘In five years there’ll be a civil war.’”

Mr. Widaman was right, as we’ve all seen over the past few days, and the “high officials” were wrong. The result – and I say this with sympathy for the dead, injured, and traumatized – is that the fighting, “nation building,” and trauma were all for nothing.

When it comes to war, always believe the men and women who spent time on the streets, not the politicians and generals.

Iraq is not going to become a Western country. Afghanistan is not going to become a Western country. There is no foundation for Western life there, and as soon as overwhelming force pulls back, life there will return, more or less, to its usual ways.

If you want to change a way of life, you have to change the deep cultural assumptions that give it its shape. Armies and corrupt sycophants won’t cut it.

Saddam Was Necessary

Please understand that I think Saddam Hussein was a monster, and that I’m pleased he’s no longer running around on this globe killing people. But that said, if you want a country like Iraq to hold together, you need more than the usual level of coercion; you require a tyrant.

The borders of Iraq were drawn by the Brits in about 1920. In other words, a conquering power (the Brits ‘won’ World War I) drew lines on the map as it suited them. But when they did, they ignored the fact that they were forcibly grouping Sunnis and Shiites together, and that they hadn’t learned how to mix.

Forced grouping is a very important subject, and one that is almost totally ignored by rulers. They control the borders and they expect everyone to get along. They have scribbles on papers called laws, after all!

But when you force humans together against their will, all sorts of frictions, insults, and misunderstandings arise… and there is no way to escape them, because the grouping is enforced.

If you leave people alone, they generally learn to co-exist. For example, there is a street in my old neighborhood lined with stores owned and run by both Indians and Pakistanis. These people – bloody enemies in their old countries – have learned to get along for one reason: No one forces them to live or work on that street. If they want to open a store or rent an apartment there, they can. If they don’t want to, they don’t have to.

The result of freewill grouping is that people eventually learn to get along. The result of forced grouping is resentment, sectarianism, and all too often, blood.

If you want a nation of Shias and Sunnis and Kurds to function as a single unit, overwhelming force – permanent overwhelming force – is required. Without it, things fall apart, and civil war is the typical result. So, if the Foggy Bottom Gang (that’s the State Department) is religiously committed to sacred, unchangeable borders, the US must become a colonial dominator. That means a permanent military occupation and our sons and daughters spending years, openly and knowingly oppressing people, “for their own good.”

Afghanistan

Afghanistan is a more homogenous country than Iraq, but it’s not going to become a Western nation either. I spent time in Afghanistan in 2007, outside of the safe bases where politicians and media show up, take a few photos, and leave. I dealt with real Afghans, from the lowly to high military.

I saw a tremendous amount during my short stay, including the worst corruption I’ve ever seen, anywhere. Everything was corrupt, from the lowest levels of bureaucracy and police power to the Western aid agencies. It was a riot of domination, bribery, poverty, skimming, and dirty deals. That place is not going to become normal in any way that we understand. Not for a long time.

A Few Have Done Well

Seeing that the US government has spent about $2 trillion on these escapades (it was officially $1.283 trillion in 2011), someone had to make money on them.

Those people were Dwight Eisenhower’s military-industrial complex (MIC), with the new mega-intelligence complex tacked on for good measure. The people who make killing machines have done very, very well. As have the people who build spying machines.

Certain engineering and private military contractors have done very well too, but only those who had contacts inside the MIC. Independents got nothing.

The people who were in positions to hand out contracts made a lot of money. Perhaps the oil companies and Middle Eastern royalty did well on it too, but that’s beyond my direct knowledge.

Who Lost Badly

The worst losers, of course, were the dead. I’m not sure how many Iraqis died; estimates range from 100,000 to over a million. That’s a lot of dead people – all of them sons, daughters, fathers, mothers, brothers, sisters, and friends. The fact that these deaths were far away doesn’t make them any less tragic. The number of injured must be much higher, of course.

On the Westerner side, only a number of thousand died, but that’s not trivial either, nor are the many more thousands of injured. And not only that, but returning soldiers are committing suicide in surprising numbers.

Aside from the military-industrial-intelligence complex, everyone has lost, and the situations in both Iraq and Afghanistan are “reverting to the mean.” And there they will stay, unless Americans commit their children to serve as international oppressors.

It really was all for nothing.

Paul Rosenberg

[Editor’s Note: Paul Rosenberg is the outside-the-Matrix author of FreemansPerspective.com, a site dedicated to economic freedom, personal independence and privacy. He is also the author of The Great Calendar, a report that breaks down our complex world into an easy-to-understand model. Click here to get your free copy.]

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Desertrat
Desertrat
June 19, 2014 6:54 am

Yeah, well, we kept Saddam Hussein from selling oil and getting paid in other-than-petro-dollars.

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flash
June 19, 2014 7:52 am

“Haven’t We Already Done Enough Damage in Iraq?” Ron Paul

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Stucky
Stucky
June 19, 2014 9:06 am

” ….. if you want a country like Iraq to hold together, you need more than the usual level of coercion; you require a tyrant.” ———— from the article

I agree 100% with that observation. The author states his reasons most convincingly.

Apparently, it’s also true for ‘Murika …. at least the ‘tyrant’ part.

Stucky
Stucky
June 19, 2014 9:18 am

Dear mom, dad, brother, or sister of the soldier below,

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Your son was not coerced into going to war. He volunteered. He probably thought he was “fighting for his country”. To protect our freedoms, and all that ….. from people mostly living in mud huts. I too voluntarily joined the USAF in 1971. So, I know about the enormous sense of pride you felt — cuz my own mom felt the same — when he came home the very first time from Basic Training, seeing him standing so handsome and tall in his uniform.

Now he can’t stand at all. So, please, first ask yourself, and then ask him …. was it fucking worth it???

Sincerely
A former vet against war

dilligaf
dilligaf
June 19, 2014 9:54 am

TPTB knew exactly where this would end up, and things are going exactly as they planned.

GilbertS
GilbertS
June 19, 2014 10:17 am

Yep. They sold us a big pile of poop and camoflaged it as a great undertaking. I was all for Afghanistan, but I didn’t see the connection to Iraq. I lost more and more support as I learned how much BS there was to support it. What a shame it only came out AFTER we got there. As time passed, it became absolutely embarrassing, such as the revelation Bush didn’t even know what Shiites and Sunnis were 2 weeks prior to invasion. Or the revelation he intended to invade Iraq when he was elected. Or the fake intel justification. Oh, and actually being there made it painfully obvious how much the entire thing was BS. The whole thing was a big pile of poo. Anyone who goes there or takes the trouble to learn about Iraq ought to be able to see Iraq is a failed state with no chance of long-term survival. Why we fear the map changing, which is perfectly justified here, I do not know. Let Al Qaeda or the League of Women Voters or McDonalds take over the country and we’ll just buy the oil from them.

Persnickety
Persnickety
June 19, 2014 10:23 am

“Why we fear the map changing, which is perfectly justified here, I do not know.”

The people who are and want to be “in charge” of governments get their power and perceived legitimacy from the supposed inviolability of the nation-state, which has been a cult with religious overtones since at least 1945. It would be far more sensible for normal people to set up nations along the lines of shared interests, which often follow shared ethnicity, language or religion.

Further, constant conflict combined with the worship of frozen nation-state boundaries provides ever more power to those same sociopathic elites, letting them take more of the overall economic output, and stifle dissent or any other challenges.

Stucky
Stucky
June 19, 2014 10:42 am

Actual accurate map of the ME

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In small print …

—- Israel = paranoid statesmen
—- Lebanon = nervous wrecks
—- Tunisia = Islamist Democracy
—- Tehran = parking lot

Stucky
Stucky
June 19, 2014 10:44 am

How Big Oil sees the ME
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Stucky
Stucky
June 19, 2014 10:48 am

Redrawing the ME map ……… permanently and effectively
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Stucky
Stucky
June 19, 2014 10:52 am

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Stucky
Stucky
June 19, 2014 10:54 am

Last one, folks.

Saving the best for last ……… the actual truth.
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GilbertS
GilbertS
June 19, 2014 11:19 am

I like the problem solved one. That’s the solution I would like. Can we just launch the moon at them?

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
June 19, 2014 11:28 am

GilbertS says:

I like the problem solved one. That’s the solution I would like. Can we just launch the moon at them?
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It needs to be moved a bit to the NW. Looks like some Joos might have survived.

Stucky
Stucky
June 19, 2014 4:00 pm

Sarcasm at it’s finest.

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A Brief History of Iraq for Westerners

By David Swanson

Iraq was saved from ignorant subhuman barbarism by a gentlewoman named Gertrude at the time that the civilized nations of the world were, in a quite advanced and sophisticated manner, slaughtering their young men in a project now called the First World War.

Because the Arabs were too backward to be allowed to govern themselves, or even to contemplate creating a world war, and because tribes and ethnicities and religions never really garner much loyalty or support that can’t be wiped away with a good cup of tea or a few clouds of poison gas, and because the French were too dumb to know where the oil was, it became necessary for the British to install an Iraqi leader who wasn’t Iraqi, through a democratic election with one candidate running.

The great Winston Churchill explained the governance of Iraq and the new civilizing technique of bombing civilians thusly: “I am strongly in favor of using poison gas against uncivilized tribes.” Others failed to see the wisdom, and the Royal Air Force used non-chemical “terror bombing, night bombing, heavy bombers, [and] delayed action bombs (particularly lethal against children)” to police disobedient Iraqis. Only by developing these techniques on Iraqis were the world’s civilizers prepared to use them on Nazis when the time came to level German cities in the name of defeating Nazis, which of course also places the rest of this paper beyond the reach of moral criticism.

Iraqis, from the formation of Iraq by Gertrude to this day, were never quite able to create a democracy for the CIA to overthrow as in neighboring Iran. But the idea that Iraqis have been violent or resistant to control because of lack of representation misses the central fact that people in the Middle East enjoy killing each other over sectarian differences. Of course it’s hard to find evidence of significant sectarian fighting in Iraq prior to 2003 and some say there wasn’t any. There was violent looting of Jewish neighborhoods in 1941, but the British government keeps all information on that event secret. There was bombing of synagogues in Baghdad in 1950-51 but that turned out to have been done by Zionists trying to convince Jews to come to Israel. And “until the 1970s nearly all Iraq’s political organisations were secular, attracting people from all religions and none.” But what was simmering just below the surface waiting to burst out at the slightest scratching?

Think how little it took. Supporting and arming a brutal dictator in Saddam Hussein and his catastrophic war against Iran, then bombing Iraq and imposing the most murderous sanctions in history, and then newly bombing Iraq and occupying it for 8 years while arming and training death squads and torturers and imposing sectarian segregation, creating 5 million refugees, and killing a half-million to a million-and-a-half people, while devastating the nation’s infrastructure, and then imposing a puppet government loyal to one sect and one neighboring nation. That, plus arming the new government for vicious attacks on its own people, while arming mad killers in neighboring Syria, some of whom want to combine parts of Syria and Iraq: that was all it took, and suddenly, out of nowhere, ignorant Arabs are killing each other, just out of pure irrationality, just like in Palestine.

During the 8 years of U.S.-led occupation people mistook purely irrational violence that had been bubbling under the surface for centuries for resistance to the occupiers, and now some imagine that part of the violence against the puppet government is motivated by grievances against that government. But this misses the fundamental truths here, which are:

1. Shock and Awe was meant to put people at ease and make them comfortable.

2. The plan to rid Iraq of weapons it was about to use against those of us who matter was successful beyond the wildest expectations, working retroactively by a decade.

3. Our great leaders, Bush and Cheney, meant well in giving Iraqis freedom even if they weren’t ready for it.

4. The election of Maliki was even more legitimate than the election of Faisal.

5. When the Bush-Maliki treaty ended the U.S. military presence in Iraq, that was thanks to President Obama who is way smarter than Bush but couldn’t get Iraq to let U.S. troops stay with immunity for crimes — crimes of course being necessary for policing, just ask Winnie.

6. When Iraq remained a disaster, that was President Obama’s fault for focusing too much on murdering people in Afghanistan and Pakistan and Yemen, and never Iraq — as if we just don’t care about Iraq any more.

7. The U.S. weapons being seized and used against the U.S. puppet government in Iraq are no match for the vast stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction that we can and must ship into Iraq now to be seized and redirected later on down the road.

8. The few people getting rich from all of this misery mean well.

A Brief History of Iraq for Westerners

AWD
AWD
June 19, 2014 4:07 pm

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flash
flash
June 19, 2014 6:04 pm

excellent find Stuck…+ 1000

flash
flash
June 19, 2014 6:06 pm

how it all will end..

flash
flash
June 19, 2014 6:34 pm

Give Bubba Flubber Retard a vicious dog, Billy Jack-ass a scary black rifle and Laquaisha the fried chicken Queen some black BDUs to stuff that super-sized ass into and you gots’ yo’ selves da makings of a force or heroes…
Heroes protecting our freedom from heroes who were injured supposedly protecting our freedoms..Someone should contact Lee Queenwood..there’s a country music song in there somewhere..’MERICA!

Veterans seeking treatment at the VA Hospital in San Deigo, CA this past Wednesday were greeted by an ominous assembly of black uniformed paramilitary police bearing identification patches of DHS and Police, with no name tags or badges. Citing “presence deterrence” as the reason for the action, little more in the way of an explanation was offered.

Reports from witnesses state that approximately 20 Federal Protection Services officers, in black SWAT-style uniforms and full gear as well as four bomb-sniffing dogs massed at the entrance to VA Mission Valley Health Care Clinic. FPS is an enforcement group within DHS charged with the protection of government properties.

The VA Mission Valley Health Care Clinic provides services in the areas of general practice, a psychiatric clinic, a PTSD treatment clinic, and a disability compensation evaluation clinic.

A stream of criticisms from veterans led to a formal complaint being filed with the VA OIG by the advocacy group, Honoring Our Troops (HRT). The complaint states that veterans who were unfortunate enough to find themselves at the facility during this “presence deterrence” were harassed and threatened for taking pictures and asking questions. One veteran reportedly was threatened with a $10,000 fine if he did not delete a photo. One doctor reportedly described the action to a patient’s wife ambiguously as a “familiarization exercise.”

Since the OIG complaint, HRT reports being on the receiving end of numerous anonymous phone threats of physical harm as well as threats of stalking and investigations.

VA Regional Office spokesman, Alejandro Mendio la Flores verified the FPS action as being part of “Operation Shield” for “presence deterrence.” They claim the number of participants in the exercise was 8 rather than the witness assertions of over twice that many, and that the FPS was conducting training.

In addition to the FPS goons, the VA has a “patient security flag” procedure in place in which accusations or warnings about a particular patient are routinely made behind closed doors, without the patient’s knowledge and without an opportunity to face their accusers or refute the accusations. This is the same apparatus which will likely be utilized to a great extent in the determination that many veterans are unfit for the free exercise of their second amendment rights upon the completion of the installation of the police state apparatus and pretexts.

The regime has already improperly labeled returning veterans as domestic terrorists or having many of the characteristics that have been labeled as those of domestic terrorists, such as patriotism and a belief that an authoritarian central government is un-American.

Is “presence deterrence” designed as a component of the indoctrination process, to reeducate veterans to the “new reality,” that the rules are different, that the former great enemy of socialism is now the path of America’s future. It was chosen for them without being asked by a government intent on controlling, through whatever means necessary, every aspect of the daily lives of their “inmate population.”

The message being, accept these conditions or be treated like the domestic terrorist they’ve been labeled as. Training people to accept police state tyranny is a component of the tyranny itself.

It definitely appears that veterans are on a type of target list. That list will surely expand in scope as the integration of the police state into our daily lives continues and intensifies.

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flash
flash
June 19, 2014 6:35 pm

Bubba , Billy Jack and Laquaisha

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