Struggle to the Death

Guest Post by Jim Kunstler

For public consumption, the fatuous haircut-in-search-of-a-brain, a.k.a. Secretary of State John Kerry, hauled out the dog-eared playbook for “negotiating a ceasefire” between the Palestinian Hamas leadership and Israel. Neither side takes him seriously, of course. In this historic moment of Islamic uproar across the entire region, Hamas is just following the larger script: act up and act out.

They would like to catch the momentum of rampaging ISIS next door, but Hamas is not a mobile force of mostly young male psychopaths. They’re stuck in Gaza embedded among their women and children doing what they can to eliminate Israel and replace it with an Islamic state. For the moment that means lobbing rockets from launch sites planted among the homes and institutions of daily life in the densely urbanized Gaza strip.

So far in the current offensive, they’ve launched over 700 missiles at Israel. Some of the rockets, purchased through the world’s arms bazaar from China, are powerful enough to reach Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. But they are poorly-targeted and Israel’s “iron dome” anti-missile system can intercept some of them before they land on anything.

Unlike previous offensives, when Hamas rocketeers could set up mobile Qassam missiles in alleyways or rooftops, and beat it a few minutes after firing, the new larger rockets require sturdier installations. Thus they can be systematically discovered and targeted. Hamas is quite willing to sacrifice the women and children who eat and sleep around their rocket installations for the propaganda value of pretending that they were not deliberately put in harm’s way.

Israel has accepted the reality that Hamas deliberately uses its own people as human shields and has opted to destroy the missile-launch sites in any case, because the alternative is to give Hamas free reign in bombarding Israel. One would think that world opinion would understand this equation. But there is little sympathy for Israel’s predicament, and little appreciation for Hamas’s calculated ruthlessness vis-à-vis its own people.

The birth-rate in Gaza is among the highest in the world. If it is a deliberate result of social policy, it is a cruel bargain for the Palestinians, who are apparently regarded as expendable by the Hamas leadership. In a culture that glorifies suicide bombings, routine human sacrifice must be normal, though to a Western sensibility it seems tragic.

It shapes up as a struggle to the death that will not be impeded by reason, the good intentions of others, or sentimentality. What Israel remembers is that nobody was on the side of its people in 1939 and they’ll be damned to make the same mistake again. This certainly sets up a situation of extreme political danger in the region, but no more now than the ISIS juggernaut, or the larger beef between the two basic branches of Islam, or the fate of the fragile Saud monarchy.

This is not as region of the world than can support large populations of human beings of any religious persuasion, and in the new age of extreme resource limits blind circumstance itself more than personalities or doctrines will determine who gets to inhabit what rockpile.

What’s changed is the perception that the USA has any role to play any longer even in the diplomatic theatrics. The Middle East is disintegrating faster than any polity in historical memory. It appears that, if anything, the USA has only succeeded in accelerating the process wherever we turn our attentions. Since the 1970s, we haven’t felt the ultimate consequence of trouble in that part of the world, which would be an interruption in the oil supply coming out of there.

Back then, there might have been something we could do about it. Now there is nothing we can do but stand on the sidelines and wait. In the meantime, wouldn’t it be a good idea to attend to our own problems, especially the critical need to prepare for American life in a post-oil world?

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Eddie
Eddie
July 14, 2014 10:12 am

IAATO

It’s always about the oil.

Welshman
Welshman
July 14, 2014 10:26 am

American life in the post-oil world ? Hasn’t JK heard of the shale oil revolution ?

AWD
AWD
July 14, 2014 1:39 pm

Obama, Kerry, and Hillary have supplied arms, cash, training and support to Al Qaeda, ISIS, released Taliban leaders, our enemy, committing treason. They turned Libya into a nightmare, and four Americans, including a diplomat were murdered (Benghazi). Same story in Syria, Egypt, and now Iraq. Thanks to Obama, the towel heads have made a massive resurgence, and the entire region is a destabilized mess.

“The US Has Only Succeeded In Accelerating Middle East Disintegration”
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/14/2014 – 11:19

What’s changed is the perception that the USA has any role to play any longer even in the diplomatic theatrics. The Middle East is disintegrating faster than any polity in historical memory. It appears that, if anything, the USA has only succeeded in accelerating the process wherever we turn our attentions. Since the 1970s, we haven’t felt the ultimate consequence of trouble in that part of the world, which would be an interruption in the oil supply coming out of there. Simply put, it shapes up as a struggle to the death that will not be impeded by reason, the good intentions of others, or sentimentality.

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AWD
AWD
July 14, 2014 1:40 pm

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bb
bb
July 14, 2014 2:22 pm

By way of deception you shall wage war ……the Arabs of Palestine are just that Arabs.
Now for the biggest lie of all time .The so called Jews in Israel have no historical or racial link to the Holy Land.They are khazars from the border of Europe and Asia that lies between the black and Caspian Seas.
Neither of these people are who they claim to be .It is all based on decades of lies and deception on the part of both groups that claim the Holy Land. Look it up for yourselves and you will shocked at what you learn. The political manoeuvring ,the liars , the lying , the deception and deceit is so real it’s really hard to believe. This whole world has been deceived .I now know why in the book of Revelation 2:9 it says…I know the blasphemy of them which say they are JEWS , and are not Jews , but are the synagogue of Satan…The Arabs are also liars. There is no hope for these people or this part of the world.

bb
bb
July 14, 2014 2:28 pm

Admin ,AWD ,Lipoh ,Billy and all others go look this up for yourselves . You will be shocked at what you
Discover. At least I was .Shocked and disappointed at how deceived I was .Mr Z I think I owe you an apology.

bb
bb
July 14, 2014 3:01 pm

The Jewish religion :It’s influence today …. formerly titled .. The Plot against Christianity by Elizabeth Dilling .Explains the Babylonian Jewish Talmud in details.
Can read on internet . Also The invention of the Jewish people by Shlono ward.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
July 14, 2014 4:30 pm

Seems to me Israel is just as bad as Hamas. They certainly kill more Palestinians than Hamas kills Israelis. The tragedy is, the U.S. picks sides.

Stucky
Stucky
July 14, 2014 5:49 pm

“This whole world has been deceived .I now know why in the book of Revelation 2:9 it says…I know the blasphemy of them which say they are JEWS , and are not Jews , but are the synagogue of Satan…The Arabs are also liars.” ———— bb

What a crock of shit.

EVERY generation of Christians has believed that Revelation was written specifically to THEM, for their generation. So, here we are in 2014, and bb believes Revelation 2:9 was written specifically for our generation, so that we Americans can identify the Real Joo from the Fake Joo. Again, this is a crock of shit.

Revelation chapters 2 and 3 were written for SPECIFIC CONGREGATIONS in the early Christian Church. The message to each of the 7 churches follows the same general format; 1) an address, 2) commendation, 3) reproof, 4) a promise, and 5) a call for Believers to persevere.

Yes, in a GENERAL sense, the message to the 7 churches back then also applies to The Church today. Believers in almost all ages have to deal with; persecution, forgiveness, judgment, perseverance, and both immediate and long-term consequences of their deeds and the accompanying rewards and punishments…. just as the 7 churches did. In that sense, and only that sense, the message to them applies to current day believers.

HOWEVER, that all falls apart when one attempts to apply SPECIFIC instruction of that bygone era to the here and now …. for example, thinking one can TODAY identify the “synagogue of Satan”

First of all, not even John, the supposed author of Revelation, identifies who the “synagogue of Satan” is !!! Was it the Pharisees? The Sadducees? The Scribes? Or any of the other dozen Jewish sects? We just don’t know! So, it seems rather ridiculous to assume we can know today, when the author himself keeps silent on the matter.

Second, most people identify the “synagogue of Satan” as those Jews who persecuted the Christians. In fact, that verse has been used by many throughout the ages to persecute da Joos. Some people go so far as to say that virtually ALL Jews are of the “synagogue of Satan” because they don’t believe in the Messiah. Well, that sounds like it could be logical, except it’s …….. wait for it …… more bullshit. The reason is simple enough; there were NO Christians alive at the time John wrote this. The was no Sacred Heart Catholic or Antioch First Baptist. There were Jews who followed the Law, Pharisees. They were Jews who did not, Sadducees. There were Jews who followed war, Zealots. There were Jews who believed in Jesus as Messiah, and Jews who believed in other Messiahs …. but they were always and only, Jews. So that explanation also doesn’t work for me.

Third, Real Joo vs Fake Joo is the most retarded game in the history of religion. Even in current day Israel citizenship and other privileges are often determined by identifying ones genuine Jewishness. The methodology of doing so is bizarrely convoluted, and if it wasn’t so tragic, it would be hilarious. Find-a-real-Joo is a game used by BOTH sides – Joo and non-Joo — mostly to persecute one group of people at the expense of another. I wish it would cease, but it won’t. And to bring that bullshit here to TBP and telling others to research it (I’m looking at you bb) is pure fucking nonsense.

My own personal belief is that John was talking about the evil religious leaders in the Jewish community ….. those Jewish rabbis who rejected Jesus and conspired to kill him … the very leaders Jesus himself referred to as “hypocrites,” “snakes,” “vipers,” “blind leaders of the blind,” and worthy of “hell”. It’s pretty clear cut who the villains are. Why look any further than that?

bb
bb
July 14, 2014 7:26 pm

Stucky , .. I was talking about the khazars who converted to Judaism in the 8th century ,then spread out to eastern Europe who after WW2 claimed they were real heirs of Israel.After all I havebeen reading these so called Jews are not Jewish .These Arabs are not who they say they are .My whole point is Arabs /Jewish conflict is warped in lies and deceit.
Stucky , I don’t expect you to understand because you are an apostate therefore you lose any credibility . Now go watch your Dumbass socker.

llpoh
llpoh
July 14, 2014 7:55 pm

Westcoaster – Israel kills more Palestinians because they are stronger militarily. Palestinians fire a rocket randomly at Israel, Israel finds where the rocket was fired from (often next to or inside a school, a mosque, or an apartment block), and fires a rocket to take out the Palestinian weapon. Palestinians die as a result. Palestinians in their outrage fire off some more rockets without a hope in hell of hitting their intended target, and Israel takes out a few more weapons installations.

And round and round she goes.

You cannot make this shit up. The Muslims are in this for the long run. I believe they will eventually win the war of attrition. It may take decades or centuries, but unless Israel decides to drive the Palestinians into the ocean, the Muslims will win in the end.

Homer
Homer
July 14, 2014 8:57 pm

DAMN STUCKY–What am I going to do with you? I guess, I am going to have to kiss you. All I can say is RIGHT ON. I knew that behind all the humor there was a thinker.

I wonder how this all will work out between the Israelis and the palestinians? The hatreds run so deep. It shows that history has a memory, so to speak. The old saw that “to be a Jew is to suffer”, no longer holds in the Jewish collective psyche. The Holocaust suffering changed that.

I guess, when each suffers so much that each chooses peace rather than war, it will stop.

The only good thing that came out of Scientology is the “third party rule”. “When two people can’t get along, there is a third party involved that’s stirring the pot”. Who’s the third party, I ask? I’ll give you one guess. Who gains the most from trouble in the middle east?

It may take terrible suffering in the ME or possibly world wide to get man to choose war, no more, as the holocaust changed the Jewish psyche.. There must be a change in consciousness from the intractable resolute beliefs held by those involved.

Homer
Homer
July 14, 2014 9:15 pm

bb–Who is truly Jewish? I put to you, it is they that follow the Jewish tenets, faith. and principles. It’s really hard to know the truth(?) (what is and was). Truth ends up being a consensus, which you incorporate on your CD disk. Watch this as it is very enlightening.

It is by D R Schoon start at 19:50 min. You will understand the CD reference.

I am a believer in reincarnation and my thoughts are that these conflicts and injustices are from a former time and are currently being rehashed. No! I don’t believe you come back as an ant.

bb
bb
July 14, 2014 9:30 pm

I thought I just made this clear…. There is no such thing as Palestinians .This was a title made
up to gain world sympathy for the misplaced arabs.
These so called Jews are not the Jews of the bible. They are of eastern European decent and have no connection to the Holy land.They are khazars . The so called Jews are imposters. The
Khazars assumed the identity of the biblical Jews and claim the Holy land as their own.All of this shit is based on a century of lies ,fraud and deceit. As far as I’m concerned the so called jews and the so called Palestinians can genocide each other today and the world would be a better place.

bb
bb
July 14, 2014 9:43 pm

Homer, you believe in.reincarnation and you are self deceived or delusional . I bet you believe in aliens from outer space .Right ?I bet you have an imaginary play mate .Right ?Just out of curiosity what are you going to do if you come back as a musk rat ?What then?

El Pocho
El Pocho
July 14, 2014 9:57 pm

BB is right about the khazars main. For a total mind trip, smoke some peyote and then google ‘Kazakhstan new world order capital’. The khazars are some serious chit, right bb?

Homer
Homer
July 14, 2014 10:05 pm

Give me a break! bb—First, you don’t name yourself. Others name you based on their understanding of who you are. Land is a qualifier for naming. Palestine was certainly a land area, and the people living there were referred to as palestinians by others. I don’t know about the ‘sympathy’ part that you are referring to and I don’t think that makes any difference.

“The so called Jews are imposters. The
Khazars assumed the identity of the biblical Jews and claim the Holy land as their own.All of this shit is based on a century of lies ,fraud and deceit.” says bb. As Carl Sagan said, “Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof.”

The 10 tribes got scattered, Jews are from the tribe of Judah and held their continuity. Historically, they were certainly merchants and most probably traveled and traded on the Silk Road.

I’m reminded of a joke. A Jewish Rabbi from the Holy Land was traveling in China and heard that there was a Jewish Synagog in the city. The Rabbi visited the synagog and introduced himself to the Chinese Rabbi whereas the Chinese Rabbi said, “That’s funny you don’t look Jewish.”

Homer
Homer
July 14, 2014 10:23 pm

bb says—“Just out of curiosity what are you going to do if you come back as a musk rat ?What then?”
bb, I refer you to my second post. Asked and Answered!

bb, there’s no shame in being ignorant, but it’s nothing to be proud of either. When 70% of the world believes in some form of reincarnation, you’re in the minority. You most likely haven’t read the voluminous
material substantiating reincarnation that I have read over half a lifetime. Perhaps your Christian CD is blinding you to this reality.

SSS
SSS
July 14, 2014 11:09 pm

My private counsel to Netanyahu on the Hamas issue would be simple. “Do what you need to do.”

The arguments above about who or who is not a Jew or a Palestinian are totally irrelevant. The only relevance to U.S. foreign policy is that they are killing each other. Sigh. Once again. As an ally of Israel, problem solved with my advice above.

And never, EVER get into a theological argument with Stucky.

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 6:22 am

El poncho , yes it’s very serious .The politics that’s behind this is even more mind blowing. How the khazars did this identity switch is something even Hollywood couldn’t dream up.The lies , fraud and deception that’s behind this would make Satan proud.

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 6:27 am

Homer , I do like Darrly Robert Schoon .I watched the 1st. 5 shows last night . Very smart man.Thanks

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 6:50 am

SSS , it is very relevant . I have never heard any of the Christian TV ministers talk about these identity switches of the khazars or the Arabs who call themselves Palestinians. In doing a little more research I found most of these ministers are getting money from the Jewish lobby here in America . The same Jewish groups that owns congress. Same with the Arabs . The Saudi government gives billions of dollars to universities around the world to promote the (Palestinians )cause. The khazars wanted a land of their own so they stole Israel and none of the Arabs states wanted the arabs that were made homeless by the khazars so they made up the whole Palestinian cause. I know there will never be lasting peace in that part of the world . American foreign policy is doomed to failure in that neighborhood.

flash
flash
July 15, 2014 7:44 am

good advice for any struggliest ..

“Gunfight”

Here’s a little story how the west was won
The white man came and took out everyone
They used dirty blankets and they used machine guns
And they didn’t think twice about what they’d done

Here’s a little story ’bout Kevin Bacon
He had a bunch of money but it got taken
He got a bunch of lawyers and he tried to sue
But Bernie looked at him and said, “HEY, FUCK YOU!”

Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, you’ll lose.
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, you’ll lose.

Here’s a little story ’bout the congressmen
They bailed out all of their billionaire friends
You can blame Bush, or you can try to blame Obama
But you should’ve fuckin’ learned from your daddy or your momma

That you don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, you’ll lose.

Some fights just ain’t fair
Some fights just ain’t fair
No, some fights just ain’t fair

You don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, you’ll lose!

Here’s a little story ’bout Tienanmen Square
The people rose up and said, “Life ain’t fair.”
Now they’re sweating in a shop making iPhones and
You stand in front of tanks, the tanks are gonna win!

Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, you’ll lose.
Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, you’ll lose.

Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight, you’ll lose.

Don’t bring a knife
Don’t bring a knife… you’ll lose.

Billy
Billy
July 15, 2014 8:26 am

The (slightly) Abridged History of Jerusalem

4000 BC – Someone lived near Gihon Spring. Maybe.

1700 BC – Canaanites build big ass walled city. Call it Rusalimum.

Egyptians: “Sup? You owe us money.”
Canaanites: “Shit. Okay, here.”

Rusalimum now known as Salem.

1178 BC

Canaanites: “Fuck this. We’re independent.”
Egyptians: “We’re gonna beat your ass.”
Canaanites: “We brought friends.”
Egyptians: “Shit.”

Salem now known as Jebus.

1000 BC.

God: “See those assholes? Go kill them and take their shit.”
Jews: “Wait. What?”
God: “No, it’s cool. I said so.”
Jews: “K..”

Jews: “Sup?”
Jebusites: “Hey..”
Jews: “God told us to kill you and take your shit.”
Jebusites: “Wait. What?”
Jews: “No, it’s cool. God said so.”
Jebusites: “Not cool. And who’s this “God” person anyway?”
Jews: “Well, he’s our God. He said it’s cool.”
Jebusites: “We he’s not our G- ACK!”

Jebus now known as Jerusalem

701 BC

Assyrians: “Sup?”
Jews: “Shit.”
Assyrians: “You owe us money.”
Jews: “Fine. Here.”

597 BC

Babylonians: “Sup?”
Jews: “Shit. You want money?”
Babylonians: “Nope. We’re here to kill you and take your shit.”
Jews: “Double shit.”

500 BC (or so)

Persians: “Sup?”
Babylonians: “Shit. You want money?”
Persians: “Nope. We’re here to kill you and take your shit.”
Babylonians: “Double shit.”
Persians: “Hey Jews. You can have your shit back.”
Jews: “Cool!”
Persians: “But, you still owe us money.”
Jews: “Shit.”

334 BC

Greeks/Alexander the Great: “Sup?”
Jews: “Shit. You want money?”
Greeks/Alexander the Great: “Nope.”
Jews: “You SURE you don’t want money?”
Greeks/Alexander the Great: “Yep.”
Jews: “Shit, shit, shit…”

198 BC

Seleucids: “Sup?”
Greeks/Ptolemy V: “Shit. Who the hell are you guys? You want money?”
Seleucids: “Nope. We’re here to kill you and take your shit.”
Greeks: “Awww, man…”

37 BC

Romans: “Sup?”
Seleucids: “Shit. You want money?”
Romans: “Heh.. funny.”
Seleucids: “Aww, man…”

Jerusalem is now known as Aelia Capitolina

73 AD

Jews: “Fuck this shit!”
Romans: “Don’t think so. We brought friends.”
Jews: “Shit.”
Romans: “You’re ban-hammered. Get the fuck out.”
Pagans: “Yay!”
Romans: “STFU. You owe us money.”
Pagans: “Shit.”

Aelia Capitolina now known as Jerusalem. Again.

335 AD

Constantine: “Sup?”
Pagans: “Hey. Want more money?”
Constantine: “Nope. City’s Christian now. GTFO.”
Pagans: “Wait. What?”
Constantine: “Sorry. God told me to, so it’s cool.”
Pagans: “Awww, man…”
Christians: “Yay!”
Constantine: “STFU. You still owe me money.”

614 AD

Arabs: “Sup?”
Christians: “Sup. You want money?”
Arabs: “Nope. We’re here to kill you and take your shit. God told us to, so it’s cool.”
Christians: “Whoa, hey, NOT cool! Who is this “God” person anyway?”
Arabs: “Well, actually our God is the same as your God, but he said to kill you anyways. Cool?”
Christians: “Wait. No. NOT cool! How the hell does that work? If he’s the same G- ACK!!”
Arabs: “Hey Jews, you’re unbanned.”
Jews: “Yay!”
Arabs: “STFU. You owe us money.”
Jews: “Shit.”
Arabs: “Plus, Jerusalem is now a Muslim city.”
Jews: “Double shit.”

629 AD

Arabs: “You’re banned again. GTFO.”
Jews: “Aww, man…”

1099 AD

Crusaders: “Sup?”
Arabs: “Hey. You want money?”
Crusaders: “Nope. We’re here to kill you and take your shit. God told us to, so it’s cool.”
Arabs: “Wait. What? Isn’t that our God, too?”
Crusaders: “So? God said it was cool, sooo…”
Arabs: “NOT cool! I don’t see why we- ACK!”
Jews: “Still banned?”
Crusaders: “Yep. Still banned. Unless you pay us money.”
Jews: “Shit.”

1187 AD

Arabs/Saladin: “Sup?”
Crusaders: “Oh. You guys again. You want money?”
Arabs/Saladin: “Nope. We’re here to kill you and take your shit. God told us to, so it’s cool.”
Crusaders: “Now wait just a damn minut- ACK!”

1333 AD – 1517 AD

Arabs: “Ours!”
Christians: “Ours!”
Jews: “Ours!”

1517 AD

Ottomans: “Sup?”
Everyone: “Hey. You want money?”
Ottomans: “Pretty much yeah. And knock this shit off. I’m serious. Plus, God told me to, so it’s cool.”
Everyone: “Aww, man… okay.”

1517 AD – 1850 AD

Jews: “Ours!”
Christians: “Ours!”
Muslims: “Ours!”
Armenians: “Ours!”
Greek Orthodox: “Ours!”
Catholics: “Ours!:
Coptics: “Ours!”
Ethiopians: “Ours!”
Ottomans: “Will you all please SHUT THE FUCK UP?!?”

1917 AD

British: “Sup?”
Ottomans: “Erm… you want money?”
British: “Nope. We’re here to kill you and take your shit.”
Ottomans: (sigh) “Well, let’s get this over wi- ACK!”

1920, 1929, 1930’s AD

Jews: “OURS! OURS! OURS!
Everyone: “Will you PLEASE shut the fuck up?!?”
British: “Really. Just STFU.”

1947 AD

UN: “Sup?”
British: “Hey. You want money?”
UN: “Nope. We’re taking your shit, but we won’t kill you.”
British: “Erm, okay? I guess.. ”
Jews: “OURS! OURS! OURS!”
British: “SHUTTUP GODDAMMIT! This will take a minute.”
Jews: “OURS! OURS! OURS!”

1948 AD

Jews: “OURS! OURS! OURS!”
British: “Fucking FINE! HERE, TAKE IT!! CHOKE ON IT!”
Jews: “Yay!”

1948 AD

Arabs: “Sup?”
Jews: “Hey.”
Everyone in the world: “Aww, man… “

Olga
Olga
July 15, 2014 8:46 am

Am I the only one that see that bb is a total government paid troll – sent here to stir up nonsensical and EMOTIONAL responses in an attempt to hijack as many threads as possible.

Can’t have the sheeple discussing anything substantive – they might find consensus, points and issues in common, or worse – an agreement to disagree.

Mix in enough “facts” – stir the pot and ring-out the emotions – and before you know it two thoughtful pieces in disagreement – Kunstler and Denninger, as well as Stucky, is side-tracked.

bb is a professional troll and I regret his presence is tolerated.

Stucky
Stucky
July 15, 2014 9:15 am

Billy —– Your history of da Joos is Pure Gold …. and 100% theologically correct …. and pretty damn funny.

Olga — maybe I got side-tracked. Then again, maybe I just didn’t want to miss the opportunity to expose the ignorance of our government troll.

Stucky
Stucky
July 15, 2014 9:43 am

Well, since we’re already off track …

BREAKING NEWS … this should be of particular interest to Fundy Christians ..

a PERFECT RED HEIFER has been found in the USA

theologically important because of some obscure reference in Torah … perfect animal to be sacrificed in the Temple …. for fundy Christians, a necessary precondition to Jeebus’ return

possible political importance ….. fundy Joos and Christians will be pushing to build a New Temple …. unfortunately that will require destroying one of Mooslim’s holiest shrines …… ain’t that fuckin great?

Here the video and link if you want to read more

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/red-heifer-discovered-major-obstacle-to-the-rebuilding-of-the-jewish-temple-removed

Olga
Olga
July 15, 2014 10:16 am

The government troll is not ignorant – the government troll has other agendas that his “supposed” ignorance advances.

Fulton J. Waterloo
Fulton J. Waterloo
July 15, 2014 11:43 am

Bad news for the google- eyed fundy “Christians” and Jews: the temple will NEVER be rebuilt. There WAS an attempt under Julian the Apostate to help the Jews to rebuild the Temple to disprove the predictions of Christ. Well, the Jews and pagan Romans were INCINERATED. They have been replaced by Jews who will not accept their own Messiah, and “born-again” lunatic Dispensationalists. Since the born agains do not believe in the sacrifice of the Mass, they fall for all of this prophecy hokum. I have a solution to America’s “fundy” Protestant problem: buy all of them ONE WAY tickets to Jerusalem ( they will not be coming back). Then, watch them and the Messiah denying Jews get turned into HUMAN TORCHES. It will be a lot more exciting than world cup soccer. PS. after Julian failed to rebuild the Temple, he launched an expedition against the Persians, but was slain…The Iranians are hoping for round II.

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 11:46 am

Olga ,Stucky ,… Neither of you will never understand the significance of these imposters stealing Israel. Helps me understand why these so called Jews have been kick out of so many countries. What the Fuck is wrong with these people I used to ask ?Why are they hated the world over?Why do they bring do much destruction ?I am beginning to get the answers.
Now Olga and stucky go back to watching your Dumbass socker. Apostates not needed.

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 11:50 am

Waterloo , are you on drugs ?

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 11:54 am

Waterloo , since the Jews rejected Christ do you think the so called Jews today will accept the anti Christ ,?

Billy
Billy
July 15, 2014 2:27 pm

Stucky,

Thanks. I have my moments, rare though they may be…

Thing is, every time Da Joos bitch, it’s always:

1. Poor us.
2. We’re Da Chozen Peeple.
3. Israel is Da Jooish Homeland.

Thing is,

1) EVERYONE can lay claim to being picked on at some point. “Poor us” don’t cut it.
2) Being “God’s Chozen”. Well, who says so? You? Well, anyone can claim that. All’s we have to go on that is their say so… not like The Big Guy issued a press release or anything.
3) Da Joos always neglect to say that they genocided the original inhabitants of what would become Jerusalem out of existence… “because God told them to”…

I think it would be best if we just made Jerusalem a Free City and turned administration and security over to the Swiss – they’re Professionally Neutral and everyone pretty much likes them. But, some asshat somewhere will have butthurt about that shit and do something dumb… start blowing shit up and this bullshit will start all over again…

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 3:50 pm

Billy ,for your saying this and that you still haven’t answered the question.Are the so called Jews in Israel the rightful heirs of the land .They have no historical or racial contact with the Holy land until 1948. 90% of the so called Jews there now are Khazars. This is the biggest identity theft in history.
Also the Palestinians didn’t exist until the early 60s .No group has ever been called Palestinians. They are Arabs that got displaced in the war that no other Arab country will take in .
Why want the Christian ministers talk about this ?They get a ton of money from Jewish groups to keep quiet . What are all these people afraid of?What Billy ,what ?

Billy
Billy
July 15, 2014 4:29 pm

bb,

Look bro, I can answer your concerns with one sentence: “I really don’t give a fuck.”

Joos? Fake Joos? Really don’t care. Not my business.

What I will say is that when Da Joos (fake or otherwise) start fucking with my country – infiltrating government at every level, running the banks, running the entire media, buying Congressmen and Senators at will – THEN I get a giant case of the ass.

Don’t much like the idea of us being ruled by proxy.

You’re worried about whose a Joo or a Fake Joo. Pretty small potatoes.

I’m worried about both groups – real Joos and Fake Joos – robbing my country blind via The Red Shield Fed and their bankster acolytes..

As far as the Holy Land? Nobody has rightful claim to the land. Yet, everyone does. Our shrines are built over their shrines, and someone else’s shrine is built over ours…

“Rightful heirs?” You want to go back far enough, it was the Canaanites, whom the Joos genocided into extinction.. there ain’t any more of them left, soooo…

Back to my “free city” idea… administered by the Swiss… NOBODY owns the fucking land. If they can’t act like civilized goddamn human beings and instead choose to act like a bunch of fucking kids, then fuck em – treat them like kids. Take their fucking toys away, whup their ass with a belt and throw them into their room without dinner…

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 5:20 pm

I don’t care that much either . Just trying to get some shit going.For what it worth your answers suck.
Now go back to watching your Dumbass socker.

flash
flash
July 15, 2014 7:22 pm

Billy…best summary of Jebus/ Rusalimum i.e Jerusalimum’ve ever had the pleasure of reading…..pure genius + 1000..

flash
flash
July 15, 2014 7:24 pm

Billy…best summary of Jebus/ Rusalimum i.e Jerusalimum I’ve ever had the pleasure of reading…..pure genius + 1000..

flash
flash
July 15, 2014 7:25 pm

Billy ..so good WP quoted me twice

Billy
Billy
July 15, 2014 7:31 pm

Awww, poor bb tries to sucker me into the Real-Joos/Fake-Joos argument and then gets sand in his twat when I don’t want to play.

Filled with butthurt, he lashes out at me… BAHH-HAHAHAHAH!!

And if you think my answers suck, then they must be pretty damn good… dealing with you is sort of like dealing with the HNIC – whatever he says, the exact opposite is probably true.

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Billy
Billy
July 15, 2014 7:33 pm

flashmeister,

Thanks bro… Don’t even know where it came from… I just started it and it fed on itself… kept going and going. 🙂

bb
bb
July 15, 2014 9:34 pm

Billy ,I’m the best there is on TBP .I have to give people the benefit the doubt including you .

Homer
Homer
July 16, 2014 4:37 pm

bb talking about the Jews—says, “What the Fuck is wrong with these people I used to ask ?Why are they hated the world over?” It’s an easy answer–Penis Envy! The Jews form around their religion and remain a contiguous whole and have cooperated with each other for eons. It was forbidden for a Jew to marry outside of their religion. They cooperated within their group like no other group in history. It brought success and wealth, even as they were being persecuted, they identified with their Jewishness. The less successful goys were envious and denigrated them to make it easier on their evil conscious to pillage them and take what was not theirs to take.

PENIS ENVY–that’s the world’s motivating characteristic today, demonstrated in socialist freebees handed out to the most envious ‘do nothings’ who feel they deserve what their neighbor worked so hard for. They’re entitled they believe. Were ENTITLED, they shout.

It’s the same, Jewish pogrom after Jewish pogrom. What other group has remained so unified through out the ages, I ask?