The most pathetic case of backpedaling I have seen in my life

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Posted on 23rd July 2014 by Administrator in Economy |Politics |Social Issues

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Via Vineyard of the Saker
Check out this story by AP and compare the lame, pathetic and self-evident nonsense of these so-called “intelligence officials” offer with the hard fact based presentation of the Russian Air Force Chief of Staff.

Here is the full article with my comments in blue.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senior U.S. intelligence officials said Tuesday that Russia was responsible for “creating the conditions” that led to the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, but they offered no evidence of direct Russian government involvement.

The intelligence officials were cautious in their assessment, noting that while the Russians have been arming separatists in eastern Ukraine, the U.S. had no direct evidence that the missile used to shoot down the passenger jet came from Russia.

The officials briefed reporters Tuesday under ground rules that their names not be used in discussing intelligence related to last week’s air disaster, which killed 298 people.

The plane was likely shot down by an SA-11 surface-to-air missile fired by Russian-backed separatists in eastern Ukraine, the intelligence officials said, citing intercepts, satellite photos and social media postings by separatists, some of which have been authenticated by U.S. experts.

But the officials said they did not know who fired the missile or whether any Russian operatives were present at the missile launch. They were not certain that the missile crew was trained in Russia, although they described a stepped-up campaign in recent weeks by Russia to arm and train the rebels, which they say has continued even after the downing of the commercial jetliner.

In terms of who fired the missile, “we don’t know a name, we don’t know a rank and we’re not even 100 percent sure of a nationality,” one official said, adding at another point, “There is not going to be a Perry Mason moment here.”

White House deputy national security adviser Ben Rhodes said the U.S. was still working to determine whether the missile launch had a “direct link” to Russia, including whether there were Russians on the ground during the attack and the degree to which Russians may have trained the separatists to launch such a strike.

We do think President Putin and the Russian government bears responsibility for the support they provided to these separatists, the arms they provided to these separatists, the training they provided as well and the general unstable environment in eastern Ukraine,” Rhodes said in an interview with CNN.

He added that heavy weaponry continues to flow into Ukraine from Russia following the downing of the plane.

The intelligence officials said the most likely explanation for the downing was that the rebels made a mistake. Separatists previously had shot down 12 Ukrainian military airplanes, the officials said.

The officials made clear they were relying in part on social media postings and videos made public in recent days by the Ukrainian government, even though they have not been able to authenticate all of it. For example, they cited a video of a missile launcher said to have been crossing the Russian border after the launch, appearing to be missing a missile.

But later, under questioning, the officials acknowledged they had not yet verified that the video was exactly what it purported to be.

Despite the fuzziness of some details, however, the intelligence officials said the case that the separatists were responsible for shooting down the plane was solid. Other scenarios — such as that the Ukrainian military shot down the plane — are implausible, they said. No Ukrainian surface-to-air missile system was in range. (That is a lie as proven by the Russian satellite imagery and signal intercepts which prove that they Ukies had plenty of batteries freshly brought right next to the combat zone even though the Novorissians had just one Su-25 close air support aircraft in their entire inventory)

From satellites, sensors and other intelligence gathering, officials said, they know where the missile originated — in separatist-held territory — and what its flight path was. But if they possess satellite or other imagery of the missile being fired, they did not release it Tuesday. A graphic they made public depicts their estimation of the missile’s flight path with a green line. The jet’s flight path was available from air traffic control data.

In the weeks before the plane was shot down, Russia had stepped up its arming and training of the separatists after the Ukrainian government won a string of battlefield victories. The working theory is that the SA-11 missile came from Russia, although the U.S. doesn’t have proof of that, the officials said.

U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Samantha Power said last week that “because of the technical complexity of the SA-11, it is unlikely that the separatists could effectively operate the system without assistance from knowledgeable personnel. Thus, we cannot rule out technical assistance from Russian personnel in operating the systems,” she said.

Asked about evidence, one of the senior U.S. intelligence officials said it was conceivable that Russian paramilitary troops are operating in eastern Ukraine, but that there was no direct link from them to the missile launch.

Asked why civilian airline companies were not warned about a possible threat, the officials said they did not know the rebels possessed SA-11 missiles until after the Malaysian airliner was shot down. (WHAT?  Even I new this, just by reading the reports about the seized Buks, reports which even included photos.  They are really insulting our collective intelligence again!) 

Have you counted the “caveat words”?  I counted fifteen (depending on what you want to include).  Notice that they consider the Ukie missile as “implausible” but that they never explain why this would be implausible.  And they admit relying in part on social media and Ukie government info?  How absolutely utterly pathetic.  I mean – I feel sorry for them.  For any self-respecting intelligence official to admit such things is to commit a seppuku of your professional pride.  It’s admitting that you are an amateur and a drooling moron.  And here is the deal – I very much doubt that these men are amateurs or morons.  So, yet again, they were back-stabbed by imbecile politicians like Obama and Power who just are not used to consulting with their own specialist before flapping their lips and nevermind if they make an entire intelligence community look like cretins.

I can barely imaging how much the US intelligence community must *hate* this administration.  Can you imagine what it must be to be a highly experienced US State Department or DIA career officer and listen to how the Russians constantly berate the US government for being “un-professional” and “amateurish” only to then hear that kind of absolute utter nonsense spoken in your name.

Look, in this game I am 100% on Russia’s side, but part of me, on a (ex-) professional level if you want,  feels the pain that I am sure many career intelligence officers feel today in the USA and they have my sincere sympathy.  I met enough of them to know that they are not the idiots that this Administration makes them out to be.

But of course the big news here is this: the US fairy tale about Putin the terrorist is falling down in flames.  Yet again the Neocons by their sheer arrogance, hubris and boundless stupidity manged to lie their way into a corner from which there is no exit.  Not that the US had much street-cred anyway, not after Colin Powell’s dishwasher powder in a vial at the UNSC.  But, of course, there is bad, very bad, even worse and outright terrible.  But now the US has reached the “terminal” stage.

The AngloZionists sure had this one coming.

The Saker 

PS: in the meantime, check the zoo that the freaks in Kiev made of their “Parliament”:

9 Comments
  1. AWD says:

    The MSM is complicit in so many bullshit lies about this, Goebbels level propaganda against Putin, who simply rides it out to ever higher public opinion polls at home. Putin is a master statesman, a true leader of men. Obama is the fucking anti-christ…..

    31216

    23rd July 2014 at 6:50 am

  2. Nonanonymous says:

    I doubt Obama is the anti-christ. Hillary, on the other hand, probably is and has outserved her usefelness. There are plenty of religious types who think Putin is.

    The anti-christ will most certainly be considered “a leader of men”. That’s why I doubt Obama is one. He may fool us all, but when SHTF someone will rise to be a world leader. That’s still Putin.

    America will be a spectator if it goes nuclear in the Near East, at least at first. China, Russia, and the US will have to agree not to launch against each other. When the ICBM’s start flying, it’s game over for the Northern Hemisphere. Africa and SA will be the only inhabitable continents and I don’t think they’re going to take to kindly to boat people. Gates and his ilk will have island fortresses where they can retreat.

    One of the police state scenarios is that when the SHTF is that the DHS will lock down the coast and airports, effectively walling in the US as a prison. That would be hard to do in the middle of a thermo nuclear war. Not that it would matter, either. It would certainly take care of over population.

    23rd July 2014 at 8:09 am

  3. Stucky says:

    Yes, I posted this in the “Russian Response” thread. But, this article talks about CuNNt, so I’m re-posting it here.

    Pravda 1970 —– EVERYONE knew they were lying bastard propagandists for The State

    CuNNt 2014 —– the new Pravda. Shameful. Just, shameful.

    Part 1 …. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ATR-3p_1SHg

    Part 2 ,,,, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVbSvZeOscI&feature=player_detailpage

    23rd July 2014 at 9:59 am

  4. Administrator says:

    Ukrainian lies revealed by Mish

    http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2014/07/ukraine-caught-in-third-major-lie-magic.html

    23rd July 2014 at 11:45 am

  5. Maddie's Mom says:

    My propaganda shield is up and my BS meter is on.

    I know who I believe.

    23rd July 2014 at 12:15 pm

  6. T4C says:

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    23rd July 2014 at 12:54 pm

  7. Westcoaster says:

    Sometimes, I’m embarrassed to be and American.

    23rd July 2014 at 3:04 pm

  8. DaveL says:

    Every time I hear a guset or host use terms like basically or technicaly, or probably, etc…I immediately disbelieve any fucking words that follow.

    24th July 2014 at 1:26 pm

  9. Administrator says:

    How Iran’s Supreme Leader Really Feels: “Annihilation Of The Murderous, Usurping Regime Of Israel Is The Only Cure”

    Submitted by Tyler Durden on 07/24/2014 14:07 -0400

    If there was any doubt whether following the recent, and quite surprising, detente between the US and Iran, which from a state that was shunned by the US for decades has transformed into a country that has been actively courted by the US in recent months, that Iran would change its tune toward that other bossom US ally in the middle east, Israel, it can be put to reset following the latest pronouncement by Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who on Wednesday called for a referendum canvassing the Arabs and Jews that live in Israel in order to end the “Zionist state.”

    Khamenei and his predecessor the Ayatollah Rouhollah Khomeini have called repeatedly over the years for an end to the Jewish state, including through a referendum in the region, where Palestinians are in the majority.

    In his first official comments on Israel since the start of its offensive on the Gaza Strip on July 8, Khamenei reiterated the call.

    Khamenei won’t be making many, or any for that matter, friends in the AIPAC with the following harshly worded statement.

    “There are logical and practical means to this end, which is for people who live and belong there to pick the government of their choice through a referendum. That would be the end of a usurping fake regime,” Khamenei, who has the last word in all matters in Shi’te Muslim Iran, said in a speech to university students in Tehran.

    Until then, Khamenei said, “while waiting for an end to this cold-blooded murderous regime, mighty armed resistance is the only way to deal with it.”

    Khamenei made clear for the first time that he was talking about the dismantling of the state of Israel, not the death of Jews.

    “Israel’s annihilation is the only real cure, but that doesn’t mean destroying Jews in this region,” he said in his speech, which was posted on his website.

    As noted above, this comes at a time when Iran’s new president Hassan Rouhani is trying to improve ties with Western countries, including the United States, in a public relations war with Israel. In addition to the Ayatollah’s statement, Iran will mark “International Qods Day,” an annual event falling on the last Friday of Ramadan, with nationwide organised demonstrations in solidarity with Palestinians and against Israel.

    * * *

    Then again, one wonders: while clearly this dramatic theatrical performance is for popular consumption, one wonders what is really happening behind the scenes?

    For the answer we go back to our post from February in which we explained that “US And Israel Quietly Provide Military Support And Parts To Iran, Which In Turn Is Arming Syria.”

    And now you know.

    24th July 2014 at 2:12 pm

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