Ron Paul on Iraq: ‘The sooner we get out of there the better’

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​Former congressman Ron Paul told RT on Tuesday that the United States should look to the history books for advice on how to handle the escalating crisis in Iraq and pull the American military out of the country immediately.

US sends arms to Iraq – to solve problems Washington helped create

Only days after US President Barack Obama authorized the Pentagon to begin airstrikes against militants from the Islamic State, formerly ISIS, in the midst of a violent campaign being waged by that group across Iraq, the longtime lawmaker for the state of Texas told RT’s Ameera David that America should abandon its latest efforts in the Middle East lest it wants to repeat the lessons of the last Iraq War.

“I think it’s a little bit late to salvage all the mistakes that we’ve made for the past 24 years,” Paul said. “I’ve been opposed to going into Iraq all the way back to the beginning in 1990 because I believe in nonintervention — that we should mind our own business.

“I don’t think the solution is being involved even more so once again. I’m afraid it will end up with a lot more violence because they are putting more troops in there right now,” the three-time presidential hopeful said in an exclusive interview with RT from his own Texas studio.

Pres. Obama has said before and after authorizing the latest rounds of strikes in Iraq that the US military must not be relied on resolve the fighting between Islamic State militants and Iraqi forces and civilians, and Paul told RT that his own idea of how to handle the situation isn’t too off course from the current commanders in chief’s.

“I think the policy that we should follow is one designed to allow the Iraqis to solve all their problems and stay out of this. Let them deal with it. Because we’ve tried for a long time, we lost a lot of lives, spent a lot of money and allowed a mess to develop, and it’s nothing but a mess and chaos there and in a way we are partially responsible for that.”

Even if the US abandons its efforts, Paul added, assistance provided to other groups throughout the region may end up sabotaging attempts to dismantle the Islamic State if weaponry trickles downs into the hands of militants. Firepower already provided by the Pentagon in and around Iraq has found itself in the wrong hands, Paul said, and the only solution to prevent further unintended consequences is to keep America out of international conflicts altogether.

“I would stick to the basic principle that we have a strong national defense, we defend our national security, we don’t get involved in fights around the world, we don’t get involved in civil strife and civil wars and especially what was going on in the middle east,” he said, “so no, I think the argument stands on its own merits that we shouldn’t be involved in doing this.”

“I think the sooner we get out of there the better,” Paul told David. “We don’t have a moral responsibility; we don’t have a constitutional responsibility. It has nothing to do with our national security. It in jeopardizes our national security and is bankrupting our country.”

What’s more, Paul added, is that the US government’s ongoing meddling in the Iraqi affair and other incidents is falling exactly in line with Al-Qaeda. According to Paul, terrorists have long intended to take the US down by wasting its resources on campaigns, the likes of which have been called fodder for some by further fanning the flames of anti-American sentiments through military action carried out in far apart countries.

“This is exactly what Osama bin Laden wanted,” Paul said. “He wanted to engage us over there because he said, ‘I’ll bring you down like I brought the Soviets down.’ We are doing the same thing because we flat out can’t afford it. It’s a failed policy. I think after so many years and so many decades we ought to admit the truth.”

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Stucky
Stucky
August 13, 2014 9:31 am

A Special “Bad News – Good News” report.

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“A kafir has no human value in Islam. They can be exploited for their skills, for sex, for slavery, for anything – or just be killed off. Muslims believe they have great rewards in heaven for killing kafirs.

The photo was published on twitter by a Muslim user (@Fadel_alHadidi) and profess to be an ISIS militant marrying [RAPE] a 7-year old kafir in occupied minority district of either Mosul or Syria (source and image is unconfirmed). When a forced conversion takes place, the victim is first be forced to recite the Quran to make the pedo-marriage halal according to Sharia law.

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The Good News? The regular Iraqi military killed the fucker.
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http://themuslimissue.wordpress.com/2014/08/03/isis-militant-announces-his-marriage-to-terrified-7-year-old-in-occupied-city-syria/

Stucky
Stucky
August 13, 2014 9:59 am

Sorry for putting this here … but, I’m pressed for time ………

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Militarized Police Turn Ferguson Missouri Into a War Zone

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The militarized police have essentially declared the city of Ferguson, Missouri to be a war zone. Ferguson, which lies suburbs of St. Louis erupted into street protests after the police gunned down 18 year old Michael Brown, an unarmed black teenager. The militarized police in America have become increasingly violent in the post 9/11 era and Brown’s shooting pushed many in Ferguson over the edge. The uprising unfortunately included the standard destruction as well as the idiotic and inevitable looting that criminal elements so often engage in during such outbursts of chaos.

Those who dismiss this simply as black people behaving badly are missing the larger point. American police forces have been fully weaponized against those who they were once tasked with serving and protecting and many now view the public as enemies. Welcome to The Homeland.

The Ferguson riots began when citizens marched on police headquarters demanding charges against the cop who blew away the young Brown and things just spiraled out of control from there. As of Tuesday, the paramilitary shock troops were out in force, according to accounts journalists were banned and the FAA even went so far as to actually implement a no-fly zone over Ferguson. According to a tweet from journalist Radley Balko who now has a regular column in the Washington Post:

“Summary of scary shit: Heavily militarized police presence in Ferguson. Protests banned. Journalists threatened. News helicopters barred.”

Balko is the author of the book “Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America’s Police Forces” and has been warning of the dangers of transforming domestic law enforcement into paramilitary shock troops. In his article “A Decade After 9/11, Police Departments are Increasingly Militarized” Balko wrote that:

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“The September 11 attacks provided a new and seemingly urgent justification for further militarization of America’s police departments: the need to protect the country from terrorism.
Within months of the attacks on the Pentagon and World Trade Center, the Office of National Drug Control Policy began laying the groundwork with a series of ads (featured most prominently during the 2002 Super Bowl) tying recreational drug use to support for terrorism. Terrorism became the new reason to arm American cops as if they were soldiers, but drug offenders would still be their primary targets.

In 2004, for example, law enforcement officials in the New York counties of Oswego and Cayuga defended their new SWAT teams as a necessary precaution in a post–September 11 world. “We’re in a new era, a new time,” here,” one sheriff told the Syracuse Post Standard. “The bad guys are a little different than they used to be, so we’re just trying to keep up with the needs for today and hope we never have to use it.” The same sheriff said later in the same article that he’d use his new SWAT team “for a lot of other purposes, too … just a multitude of other things.” In 2002, the seven police officers who serve the town of Jasper, Florida — which had all of 2,000 people and hadn’t had a murder in more than a decade — were each given a military-grade M-16 machine gun from the Pentagon transfer program, leading one Florida paper to run the headline, “Three Stoplights, Seven M-16s.”
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The fact is that American law-enforcement has mutated into legions of paramilitary goons. They are supported by the feds who have been throwing money and surplus war zone equipment into cities and municipalities. There is also a growing “us versus them” mentality instilled in many of the cops.

The conditions are ripe now for the rolling out of domestic martial law in at least a limited capacity in the event of an always vaguely defined “emergency”. It could be an outbreak of the Ebola virus that our genius leadership allowed into the country, or there could be war with the nuclear power Russia, a collapse of the rigged financial markets or as strident fear-mongers like Senator Lindsey Graham are trumpeting: a domestic terrorist attack by jihadist group ISIS.

The state is just itching for a fight and as we saw the week of the Boston Marathon bombing it doesn’t take much to place a large portion of a huge American city under a de-facto state of martial law where armed, black clad forces can go door to door conducting warrantless searches and worse.

Were the possibly of bad public relations not so overwhelming, the government would have brutally put down the mini-rebellion that took place a couple of months ago in southern Nevada led by rancher Cliven Bundy. Bundy, who has become a sort of folk hero to some conservatives along with a horde of protesters gathered to challenge Leviathan over cattle grazing rights. It was tense but eventually the standoff ended with no violence despite having the potential to have become a slaughter. Had the media not drawn so much attention to the situation then Obama and his hatchet man at the Department of Justice Eric Holder would no doubt have had another Waco or Ruby Ridge on their hands which would not have looked good in an election year.

In breaking news The Guardian is now reporting that a second man has been shot by police in Ferguson. This has the potential to get even uglier now.

The greatest peril is for some to look at the Ferguson, Missouri situation in racial terms. This not only overlooks the much larger problems but only serves to further condition American citizens to accept an ever more heavily armed and violent generation of police. This is not something that should be allowed to occur in a free country but in reality we surrendered our freedoms to fear after those towers fell nearly thirteen years ago. Now we are reaping the whirlwind.

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http://carryingaflag.blogspot.com/

Erasmus Le Dolt
Erasmus Le Dolt
August 13, 2014 10:56 am

Ron Paul is wrong. I admit he is consistent and he was dead right on opposing the war and I joined him in that from day one. But to abandon the Kurds to their fate a second time and watch videos of their children being beheaded by religious fanatics is a horrific position for the sake of consistency.

I suspect the Neo-Cons who designed this disaster couldn’t care less about Kurds or any other minorities and their focus is on oil not wandering lost souls. But what a frenzied body count to add on to the already one million or so killed in order to achieve consistency.

Even Erasmus who is credited with the word ‘pacifism’ believed there are ‘just’ battles and even wars. To commit to saving Kurdish lives would be a just battle. Yes, we will undoubtedly be recommitting for years to come, but we’ll do that anyway because of oil….just check with the Neo-Cons.