The bankers, their captured politician puppets, and their propaganda media outlets have won again. Instilling fear in the sheep is what they do best. The sheep are dimly aware of unease in the air. I wonder where they are being led. They’re sure the shepherds aren’t herding them towards that slaughterhouse on the hill.
Harmlessly passing your time in the grassland away,
Only dimly aware of a certain unease in the air.
You’d better watch out!
There may be dogs about.
I’ve looked over Jordan, and I have seen
Things are not what they seem.
What do you get for pretending the danger’s not real?
Meek and obedient you follow the leader
Down well trodden corridors into the valley of steel.
What a surprise!
A look of terminal shock in your eyes.
Now things are really what they seem.
No, this is no bad dream.
The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not want
He makes me down to lie.
Through pastures green He leadeth me
The silent waters by.
With bright knives He releaseth my soul.
He maketh me to hang on hooks in high places.
He converteth me to lamb cutlets.
For lo, He hath great power, and great hunger.
When cometh the day we lowly ones,
Through quiet reflection, and great dedication,
Master the art of Karate,
Lo, we shall rise up,
And then we’ll make the bugger’s eyes water.
Bleating and babbling we fell on his neck with a scream.
Wave upon wave of demented avengers
March cheerfully out of obscurity into the dream.
Have you heard the news?
The dogs are dead!
You better stay home
And do as you’re told.
Get out of the road if you want to grow old.
“Instilling fear in the sheep is what they do best.”
My Scottish cousins answer was short:
“I’m voting no tomorrow. I feel that there’s too much what if’s and Mr salmond is not answering the questions being put to him.”
Again we have large segment of a population that is totally dependent on the government. They could not survive without government financial aid, or some elected idiot to tell them how they should conduct their lives or how others should conduct themselves.
Too much what ifs and not answering the questions? They don’t want freedom, they want comfort and security, all they want is to vote for their next master.
Not an entirely shocking outcome, but I was severely disappointed (to say the least). I’ve seen a lot of comments from Scots that ‘the next time’ when there is a better plan for independence the voters will pass it. I don’t think they really grasp that the Brits will never allow them a next time. They only had the one chance in 270 years, and they backed away – waiting for a better chance ‘next time’. Sigh……
But the same card has been played in the last two Greek elections. And that card is ~public pension money~. The propaganda sell is:
A. the country won’t have a currency worth shit
B. pensions will not be paid in the event of an independent government movement
So all the over 55’s vote against independence in favor of a few hundred bucks a month, and they swing elections. As long as the public is bludgeoned with the pension weapon, the election outcomes will remain the same.
*For the record, I am 61 and unemployed – outsourced, subcontracted, asset shifted, and gotten rid of. I would still vote the bastards out. Fuck them with a rusty crowbar.
Slavery is security and big brother security is the comforter of the strong and independent feminist bloc.
If womynz had a vote in 1776 , we the US would still be a British colony.
ow Dramatically Did Women’s Suffrage Change the Size and Scope of Government?
John R. Lott Jr.
Crime Prevention Research Center
September 1998
Journal of Political Economy, Vol. 107, Number 6, Part 1, pp. 1163-1198, December 1999
Abstract:
This paper examines the growth of government during this century as a result of giving women the right to vote. Using cross-sectional time-series data for 1870 to 1940, we examine state government expenditures and revenue as well as voting by U.S. House and Senate state delegations and the passage of a wide range of different state laws. Suffrage coincided with immediate increases in state government expenditures and revenue and more liberal voting patterns for federal representatives, and these effects continued growing over time as more women took advantage of the franchise. Contrary to many recent suggestions, the gender gap is not something that has arisen since the 1970s, and it helps explain why American government started growing when it did.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=160530
The vote on Scotland’s Independence is today and the results should be announced this evening. The polls, for what they are worth, are ‘too close to call’ although they show the ‘no’ votes with the lead. Whatever the results I wish the Scottish people well.
There is an impulse to freedom in the world these days, that seems to have certain select parties very nervous. They do not care for independent thinking, and individual liberty. They dislike groups that question authority or attempt to hold it to account. And they certainly shrink at the thought of gold and silver.
These are the cadres of would-be professional rulers and managers, for whom oligarchy seems to be the natural form of governance. They wish for the ascendancy of the State, the bigger and more comprehensive the better, as long as they are within the circles of its power.
Not that I am all that concerned about their motives per se, or willing to speculate upon them. But any group that believes that they have been pre-selected, whether by birth or by talent, to rule strikes me as one group that ought never to have access to an exceptional power over others. They are certainly most likely to continue on a foolhardy path of their own, despite all other evidence to the contrary. God help the common people and soldiers led by such a one as these.
Speaking of leaders pursuing an unfortunate path despite all evidence to the contrary, there was intraday commentary which you may wish to view both here and here. I think the Anglo-American financiers have made a truly Faustian bargain, and seem to be determined to pursue it to the bitter end.
One of the greatest features of the American independence movement of 1776 was that it was founded on the assertion, however unfortunately and incompletely implemented, that ‘all men are created equal. And that they are endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.’
From our own privileged vantage point we tend to take such a bold assertion for granted. But it was a truly revolutionary idea given that it was uttered in a milieu which was still very much ordered by class distinctions, and the divine right of kings, and the presumed natural superiority of the few. In many ways it turned the world-that-had-been upside down. As you may recall, this is the tune that the British army under Cornwallis played as they surrendered at Yorktown: The World Turned Upside Down.
And that message reverberated around the world, and was echoed by the Scotsman Robbie Burns in his wonderful song written in 1791, A Man’s a Man For All That.’
Jesse
Scotland Rejects Independence From United Kingdom
By STEVEN ERLANGER and ALAN COWELLSEPT. 18, 2014
EDINBURGH — Voters in Scotland rejected independence from Britain in a referendum that had threatened to break up the 307-year union between them, according to projections by the BBC and Sky News early Friday.
Before dawn after a night of counting that showed a steady trend in favor of maintaining the union, Nicola Sturgeon, the deputy head of the pro-independence Scottish National Party, effectively conceded defeat for the “yes” campaign that had pressed for secession.
“Like thousands of others across the country I’ve put my heart and soul into this campaign and there is a real sense of disappointment that we’ve fallen narrowly short of securing a yes vote,” Ms. Sturgeon told BBC television.
With 26 of 32 voting districts reporting, there were 1,397,077 votes, or 54.2 percent, against independence, and 1,176,952, or 45.7 percent, in favor.
At that point the tally seemed wider than opinion surveys had suggested but it gave pro-independence campaigners a strong platform to press for greater powers and autonomy for Scotland promised by British political leaders during the campaign.
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The outcome was a deep disappointment to the vocal, enthusiastic pro-independence movement led by the Scottish first minister, Alex Salmond, who had seen an opportunity to turn a centuries-old nationalist dream into reality, and forced the three main British parties into panicked promises to grant substantial new power to the Scottish Parliament.
The decision spared Prime Minister David Cameron of Britain a shattering defeat that would have raised questions about his ability to continue in office and diminished his nation’s standing in the world.
But while the result preserved a union molded in 1707, it left Mr. Cameron facing a backlash among some of his Conservative Party lawmakers. They were angered by the promises of greater Scottish autonomy that he and other party leaders made just days before the vote, when it appeared that the independence campaign might win. Some lawmakers called for similar autonomy for England itself, and even the creation of a separate English Parliament.
The outcome headed off the huge economic, political and military imponderables that would have flowed from a vote for independence. But it also presaged a looser, more federal United Kingdom. And it was unlikely to deter Scottish nationalists from trying again.
The passion of the campaign also left Scots divided, and Mr. Salmond was expected to call later on Friday for reconciliation after a vibrant exercise in democracy that had episodes of harshness and even intimidation.
President Obama had made little secret of his desire that the United Kingdom remain intact. Indeed, Britain had long prided itself on a so-called special relationship with the United States, and Britain’s allies had been concerned by, among other things, Mr. Salmond’s vow to evict Britain’s nuclear submarine bases from Scotland, threatening London’s role in Western defenses.
As the vote approached, the margin between the two camps narrowed to a few percentage points, and at one point, the “yes” campaign seemed to have the momentum.
That was enough to alarm Britain’s political leaders from the three main parties in the Westminster Parliament in London. In a rare show of unity, they promised to extend significant new powers of taxation to Scotland, while maintaining a formula for public spending that many English voters saw as favoring Scots with a higher per-capita contribution.
Voters remained divided to the very end.
Scotland Sells out to the Dole
By Martin Armstrong
In America, the support for Scottish Independence was overwhelming running 80%+ Scottish Flags were appearing everywhere – even in Philadelphia they hung one-off the bridge. But in Scotland where people rely upon handouts from Britain (dole), self-interest prevailed. With all 32 council areas in Scotland now declared, the No (unionist) secured 55% of the vote with Yes (independence) achieved 45%. The fate of Scotland now looks rather bleak. The turnout was the strongest in the NO camp largely because the elderly who rely on pensions were scared they would lose the dole. The total turnout was 84.5% topping 90% in pro-Union areas but dipping to the mid-70s in key Yes working-class areas.
This is the very essence of the civil unrest that lies ahead – it is the classic Ayn Rand scenario. The working class having to support the dole. What happens if they go on strike – Atlas Shrugged. The elderly condemned the working class in Scotland to escalating taxes and a life far worse than they have enjoyed. For this very reason, we will see civil unrest rise in Scotland as it will everywhere else.
Yes those who have noticed how the computer picked up the election to the day without fundamentals is all based on how capital flows. The computer is capable of forecasting war and terrorist attacks based upon the flow of capital. This is what the government wanted all along. This is why they attacked Princeton Economics for that technology.
Nevertheless, the computer is not forecasting a bright future for Europe, Britain, or Scotland. It looked like a rebound was due in the markets and that was reflected only in a NO vote. Had the YES vote taken it, we would have seen a greater meltdown.
We can see how there is a trend shift with next week but there should be another problem coming the first week of November.
By no means is this over. As the economy turns down, the tensions between the workers who have to pay taxes and those who rely upon government taking from them legally, will reach a head. As they say – it ain’t over ’til the fat lady sings.
To bolster my point:
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The Scotland Referendum: Who Voted How And Why?
-Voters aged 16-17: YES: 71%; NO: 29%
-Voters aged 65+: YES: 27%; NO: 73%
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-19/scotland-referendum-who-voted-how-and-why
Women and Boomers support the status quo:
As pollsters YouGov noted in their final research: “If only men were voting, Scotland would choose independence by 54-46 per cent. Among women, No holds a clear 57-43 per cent lead.”
“Administrator says:
Women and Boomers support the status quo:
As pollsters YouGov noted in their final research: “If only men were voting, Scotland would choose independence by 54-46 per cent. Among women, No holds a clear 57-43 per cent lead.”
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I’m a boomer and a woman. Fuck them with a Kalashnikov AND a rusty crowbar. Liars and thieves.
i wouldn’t jump to any ass umptions
i posted here several days ago
that the scots would vote for independence
and that the results would be reported as no
the result
scotland will be free, however,
it will take a lot of time and cost a lot of lives
but scotland will be free
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/sep/19/russia-calls-foul-scottish-referendum
Somewhat hear say but I bet it has something to do with it. I’m picturing the no people just bringing in several boxes of their no votes.
Timing was off.
Theory: Unconscious “social mood” (a product of the brain’s structures that promote “fitting in,” AKA herding) drives social action and is best measured by looking at the investment markets, which are generally a decent barometer of social mood.
Secession movements are BEAR market (in social mood) events.
The Scotland vote, while coming during a worldwide bear market in social mood (that began in 2000 or so) arrived at a monetary-debasement rally high. This doomed the secession vote. Social “harmony” won out.
Had this vote occurred in the summer of 2009, YES would likely have won.
While no one knows the future, 2014 seems probable to be a High Water Mark for the monetary debasement nominal rally, which is itself a bear market rally that disappears if one measures it using a more stable denominator like commodity prices or gold.
If you like the notion of seeing large nation-states break up into smaller political entities (and I do), then wait. My expectation is that once this rally finally rolls over, secession movements will blossom, spread and succeed across the planet.
i am w. whatever. i studied the issue, an as time went by perplexed, knowing it my gut the best long term vote was yes, but fattened sheep bring better prices. what surprised me the most was nigel farge blasted salmon.
last comment, WVA would not be a state if VA did not leave the union, ALASKA mice meat if they voted to exit.
Sounds like a lack of strong leadership — with a clear vision for the future — was the key point. No one seemed ready to leave the known for the unknown. That will probably change as the 4T progresses and the “known” becomes increasingly intolerable. Also as those older citizens in favor of security over liberty die off and are replaced with youth that values liberty more.
Fair enough… we all know what it’s like living under a deficit of real leadership.
Boris Bazhanov’s Memoirs of Stalin’s Former Secretary (loosely translated):
“You know, comrades,” says Stalin, “that I think in regard to this: I consider it completely unimportant who in the party will vote, or how; but what is extraordinarily important is this — who will count the votes, and how.”
http://www.infowars.com/yes-supporters-claim-videos-show-scottish-referendum-was-rigged/
As the article says not concrete evidence by any means but makes you question
I told you that the vote would be no….that the money interests had too much to lose . You can’t vote the Bankster’s out…you can only hang them .
Scottish independence was never going to happen! The Money Men in The City (London for those that don’t know the reference) would NEVER allow this. The Scots will get a few pounds more in their dole, though, to quiet and calm the sheep. There will be a token increase in their say of what goes on in the UK. But the real power in the UK will remain in The City. Never doubt it…
Ms Freud said co-dependance is almost impossible to break for both people and nations (which are nothing more than bunches of people).
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A more disgusting and revolting ballot I cannot imagine …. might as well have written, “fuck me in the ass, I like it”.
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I predicted this. The yes campaign had too few answers, and the status quo was too hard to break.
SHEEP VOTE TO CONTINUE TO BE USED FOR HAGGIS.
N8 is right. It is not who votes but who counts the votes. Chicago politics! Something this important is surely not going to be left to the hoi polloi. If voting really mattered the TPTB wouldn’t let you do it.
People are weak and easily manipulated because they have no moral compass or historical perspective.
They are under educated. In other words, they are a bunch of cows, acting in murmuration. It is an effective survival strategy, more fit for Starlings, than intelligent humans. Boy, is that an oxymoron.
Courageous action engenders hope. Cowardice engenders fear. Buy everybody off with the easy life which is the Big Con.
God’s birthright is freedom and the Scots have sold theirs for a pittance. Too bad!
Basically it was 55% no, 45% yes but 85% voted.
I remember reading that they expected over 90% voter participation (but the 85% does fall in line with past % participation) and polls showing as much as 53% in favor of freedom but then it is defeated.
Who counts the votes is what matters, i wonder if there are some missing.
I’m moderately bummed because it would have been interesting to watch them separate. All we have now is watching our own country go down the tubes as we supply ISIS via the “moderates”.
Where is Mel Gibson when Scotland really needs him?
I can understand the demographics of the vote. The boomers are tired The resolve that the had when they were younger is just a fleeting distant memory. The spirit of life has waned. They just want the same o same o, with the security of a staid redundant existence, without problems, without concerns for the future generations. They are only acting in what they think is their own self interest. They say, “Please don’t take away my gov handouts”. Of course, the TPTB are acting in their self interest, too. But nobody thinks of that or that the TPTB’s self interest most likely does not coincide with theirs.
The curse of life is that the circumstances we find ourselves is the direct consequences of the decisions which we made in the past. Scotland may well look back at this vote as their Waterloo.
The young are courageous and full of life, the boomers fearful and greedy. Maybe that is the difference between youthful innocence and aged experience. YES, GREEDY, I say!!! They have destroyed the environment, conned the system, stolen from 3rd world nations, impoverished generations of children, and most likely destroyed the financial system. They have not increased their Talents, but instead shit in the vineyard. (Parable of the Talents) Never in the history of man has a generation been so greedy and destructive to the future of our children.
Yes, the vote was certainly self serving. I kinda hope you choke on it.
Iska Waran–Au Contraire. It’s not the moderates. It’s the NEO CONS. The Neo cons have never been moderate about anything. Especially about US world hegemony.
You folks are saying that the people wanting to keep their handouts were the drivers of the no vote. That is not supported by the evidence. Quite the contrary.
The left wing free shitters – ie the SDP – voted overwhelmingly yes.
The right wing folks voted no. The more conservative the voter, the more likely they were to vote no. Old folks are the most conservative voters.
The fact is those wanting to dramatically expand the free shit were the yes voters. They want to break free from the Tory UK govt.
And the crap about Scotland not being free is crap. They are free, same as Texas is free. They just are not independent. They get votes and representation.
harry p—WHAT??? MISSING VOTES? You don’t suggest the the noble UK would stoop to missing vote like that deplorable Putin resorted to in Crimea, do you?
Llpoh–Just what I was saying, I think. HEY! I guess all those people in prison are free just not independent.
Free is kinda like making your own decisions, viable or not.
P.S. It’s the old Farts who voted no. Do I have that right?
“P.S. It’s the old Farts who voted no. Do I have that right?” ——— Homer
Yup.
Admin just posted this in the “Fear and Loathing …” thread.
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Interestingly, the 18-24 year olds voted no, 52%. The above bracket hides that little factoid.
It is an interesting anomaly. Not sure what to make of it.