America—the Grim Truth

Via Dimitry Orlov

[This is an old reader favorite. Guest post by Anonymous. It’s a bit embarrassing really; this is the all-time most popular post on this blog, and I didn’t even write it! It’s something for you to ponder while this blog is on hiatus because I am out at sea… sailing away…]

Americans, I have some bad news for you:

You have the worst quality of life in the developed world—by a wide margin.

If you had any idea of how people really lived in Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, Canada and many parts of Asia, you’d be rioting in the streets calling for a better life. In fact, the average Australian or Singaporean taxi driver has a much better standard of living than the typical American white-collar worker.

I know this because I am an American, and I escaped from the prison you call home.

I have lived all around the world, in wealthy countries and poor ones, and there is only one country I would never consider living in again: The United States of America. The mere thought of it fills me with dread.

Consider this: you are the only people in the developed world without a single-payer health system. Everyone in Western Europe, Japan, Canada, Australia, Singapore and New Zealand has a single-payer system. If they get sick, they can devote all their energies to getting well. If you get sick, you have to battle two things at once: your illness and the fear of financial ruin. Millions of Americans go bankrupt every year due to medical bills, and tens of thousands die each year because they have no insurance or insufficient insurance. And don’t believe for a second that rot about America having the world’s best medical care or the shortest waiting lists: I’ve been to hospitals in Australia, New Zealand, Europe, Singapore, and Thailand, and every one was better than the “good” hospital I used to go to back home. The waits were shorter, the facilities more comfortable, and the doctors just as good.

This is ironic, because you need a good health system more than anyone else in the world. Why? Because your lifestyle is almost designed to make you sick.

Let’s start with your diet: Much of the beef you eat has been exposed to fecal matter in processing. Your chicken is contaminated with salmonella. Your stock animals and poultry are pumped full of growth hormones and antibiotics. In most other countries, the government would act to protect consumers from this sort of thing; in the United States, the government is bought off by industry to prevent any effective regulations or inspections. In a few years, the majority of all the produce for sale in the United States will be from genetically modified crops, thanks to the cozy relationship between Monsanto Corporation and the United States government. Worse still, due to the vast quantities of high-fructose corn syrup Americans consume, fully one-third of children born in the United States today will be diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes at some point in their lives.

Of course, it’s not just the food that’s killing you, it’s the drugs. If you show any sign of life when you’re young, they’ll put you on Ritalin. Then, when you get old enough to take a good look around, you’ll get depressed, so they’ll give you Prozac. If you’re a man, this will render you chemically impotent, so you’ll need Viagra to get it up. Meanwhile, your steady diet of trans-fat-laden food is guaranteed to give you high cholesterol, so you’ll get a prescription for Lipitor. Finally, at the end of the day, you’ll lay awake at night worrying about losing your health plan, so you’ll need Lunesta to go to sleep.

With a diet guaranteed to make you sick and a health system designed to make sure you stay that way, what you really need is a long vacation somewhere. Unfortunately, you probably can’t take one. I’ll let you in on little secret: if you go to the beaches of Thailand, the mountains of Nepal, or the coral reefs of Australia, you’ll probably be the only American in sight. And you’ll be surrounded crowds of happy Germans, French, Italians, Israelis, Scandinavians and wealthy Asians. Why? Because they’re paid well enough to afford to visit these places AND they can take vacations long enough to do so. Even if you could scrape together enough money to go to one of these incredible places, by the time you recovered from your jetlag, it would time to get on a plane and rush back to your job.

If you think I’m making this up, check the stats on average annual vacation days by country:

Finland: 44
Italy: 42
France: 39
Germany: 35
UK: 25
Japan: 18
USA: 12

The fact is, they work you like dogs in the United States. This should come as no surprise: the United States never got away from the plantation/sweat shop labor model and any real labor movement was brutally suppressed. Unless you happen to be a member of the ownership class, your options are pretty much limited to barely surviving on service-sector wages or playing musical chairs for a spot in a cubicle (a spot that will be outsourced to India next week anyway). The very best you can hope for is to get a professional degree and then milk the system for a slice of the middle-class pie. And even those who claw their way into the middle class are but one illness or job loss away from poverty. Your jobs aren’t secure. Your company has no loyalty to you. They’ll play you off against your coworkers for as long as it suits them, then they’ll get rid of you.

Of course, you don’t have any choice in the matter: the system is designed this way. In most countries in the developed world, higher education is either free or heavily subsidized; in the United States, a university degree can set you back over US$100,000. Thus, you enter the working world with a crushing debt. Forget about taking a year off to travel the world and find yourself – you’ve got to start working or watch your credit rating plummet.

If you’re “lucky,” you might even land a job good enough to qualify you for a home loan. And then you’ll spend half your working life just paying the interest on the loan – welcome to the world of American debt slavery. America has the illusion of great wealth because there’s a lot of “stuff” around, but who really owns it? In real terms, the average American is poorer than the poorest ghetto dweller in Manila, because at least they have no debts. If they want to pack up and leave, they can; if you want to leave, you can’t, because you’ve got debts to pay.

All this begs the question: Why would anyone put up with this? Ask any American and you’ll get the same answer: because America is the freest country on earth. If you believe this, I’ve got some more bad news for you: America is actually among the least free countries on earth. Your piss is tested, your emails and phone calls are monitored, your medical records are gathered, and you are never more than one stray comment away from writhing on the ground with two Taser prongs in your ass.

And that’s just physical freedom. Mentally, you are truly imprisoned. You don’t even know the degree to which you are tormented by fears of medical bankruptcy, job loss, homelessness and violent crime because you’ve never lived in a country where there is no need to worry about such things.

But it goes much deeper than mere surveillance and anxiety. The fact is, you are not free because your country has been taken over and occupied by another government. Fully 70% of your tax dollars go to the Pentagon, and the Pentagon is the real government of the United States. You are required under pain of death to pay taxes to this occupying government. If you’re from the less fortunate classes, you are also required to serve and die in their endless wars, or send your sons and daughters to do so. You have no choice in the matter: there is a socioeconomic draft system in the United States that provides a steady stream of cannon fodder for the military.

If you call a life of surveillance, anxiety and ceaseless toil in the service of a government you didn’t elect “freedom,” then you and I have a very different idea of what that word means.

If there was some chance that the country could be changed, there might be reason for hope. But can you honestly look around and conclude that anything is going to change? Where would the change come from? The people? Take a good look at your compatriots: the working class in the United States has been brutally propagandized by jackals like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O’Reilly and Sean Hannity. Members of the working class have been taught to lick the boots of their masters and then bend over for another kick in the ass. They’ve got these people so well trained that they’ll take up arms against the other half of the working class as soon as their masters give the word.

If the people cannot make a change, how about the media? Not a chance. From Fox News to the New York Times, the mass media in the United States is nothing but the public relations wing of the corporatocracy, primarily the military industrial complex. At least the citizens of the former Soviet Union knew that their news was bullshit. In America, you grow up thinking you’ve got a free media, which makes the propaganda doubly effective. If you don’t think American media is mere corporate propaganda, ask yourself the following question: have you ever heard a major American news outlet suggest that the country could fund a single-payer health system by cutting military spending?

If change can’t come from the people or the media, the only other potential source of change would be the politicians. Unfortunately, the American political process is among the most corrupt in the world. In every country on earth, one expects politicians to take bribes from the rich. But this generally happens in secret, behind the closed doors of their elite clubs. In the United States, this sort of political corruption is done in broad daylight, as part of legal, accepted, standard operating procedure. In the United States, they merely call these bribes campaign donations, political action committees and lobbyists. One can no more expect the politicians to change this system than one can expect a man to take an axe and chop his own legs out from underneath him.

No, the United States of America is not going to change for the better. The only change will be for the worse. And when I say worse, I mean much worse. As we speak, the economic system that sustained the country during the post-war years is collapsing. The United States maxed out its “credit card” sometime in 2008 and now its lenders, starting with China, are in the process of laying the foundations for a new monetary system to replace the Anglo-American “petro-dollar” system. As soon as there is a viable alternative to the US dollar, the greenback will sink like a stone.

While the United States was running up crushing levels of debt, it was also busy shipping its manufacturing jobs and white-collar jobs overseas, and letting its infrastructure fall to pieces. Meanwhile, Asian and European countries were investing in education, infrastructure and raw materials. Even if the United States tried to rebuild a real economy (as opposed to a service/financial economy) do think American workers would ever be able to compete with the workers of China or Europe? Have you ever seen a Japanese or German factory? Have you ever met a Singaporean or Chinese worker?

There are only two possible futures facing the United States, and neither one is pretty. The best case is a slow but orderly decline – essentially a continuation of what’s been happening for the last two decades. Wages will drop, unemployment will rise, Medicare and Social Security benefits will be slashed, the currency will decline in value, and the disparity of wealth will spiral out of control until the United States starts to resemble Mexico or the Philippines – tiny islands of wealth surrounded by great poverty (the country is already halfway there).

Equally likely is a sudden collapse, perhaps brought about by a rapid flight from the US dollar by creditor nations like China, Japan, Korea and the OPEC nations. A related possibility would be a default by the United States government on its vast debt. One look at the financial balance sheet of the US government should convince you how likely this is: governmental spending is skyrocketing and tax receipts are plummeting – something has to give. If either of these scenarios plays out, the resulting depression will make the present recession look like a walk in the park.

Whether the collapse is gradual or gut-wrenchingly sudden, the results will be chaos, civil strife and fascism. Let’s face it: the United States is like the former Yugoslavia – a collection of mutually antagonistic cultures united in name only. You’ve got your own version of the Taliban: right-wing Christian fundamentalists who actively loathe the idea of secular Constitutional government. You’ve got a vast intellectual underclass that has spent the last few decades soaking up Fox News and talk radio propaganda, eager to blame the collapse on Democrats, gays and immigrants. You’ve got a ruthless ownership class that will use all the means at its disposal to protect its wealth from the starving masses.

On top of all that you’ve got vast factory farms, sprawling suburbs and a truck-based shipping system, all of it entirely dependent on oil that is about to become completely unaffordable. And you’ve got guns. Lots of guns. In short: the United States is about to become a very unwholesome place to be.

Right now, the government is building fences and walls along its northern and southern borders. Right now, the government is working on a national ID system (soon to be fitted with biometric features). Right now, the government is building a surveillance state so extensive that they will be able to follow your every move, online, in the street and across borders. If you think this is just to protect you from “terrorists,” then you’re sadly mistaken. Once the shit really hits the fan, do you really think you’ll just be able to jump into the old station wagon, drive across the Canadian border and spend the rest of your days fishing and drinking Molson? No, the government is going to lock the place down. They don’t want their tax base escaping. They don’t want their “recruits” escaping. They don’t want YOU escaping.

I am not writing this to scare you. I write this to you as a friend. If you are able to read and understand what I’ve written here, then you are a member of a small minority in the United States. You are a minority in a country that has no place for you.

So what should you do?

You should leave the United States of America.

If you’re young, you’ve got plenty of choices: you can teach English in the Middle East, Asia or Europe. Or you can go to university or graduate school abroad and start building skills that will qualify you for a work visa. If you’ve already got some real work skills, you can apply to emigrate to any number of countries as a skilled immigrant. If you are older and you’ve got some savings, you can retire to a place like Costa Rica or the Philippines. If you can’t qualify for a work, student or retirement visa, don’t let that stop you – travel on a tourist visa to a country that appeals to you and talk to the expats you meet there. Whatever you do, go speak to an immigration lawyer as soon as you can. Find out exactly how to get on a path that will lead to permanent residence and eventually citizenship in the country of your choice.

You will not be alone. There are millions of Americans just like me living outside the United States. Living lives much more fulfilling, peaceful, free and abundant than we ever could have attained back home. Some of us happened upon these lives by accident – we tried a year abroad and found that we liked it – others made a conscious decision to pack up and leave for good. You’ll find us in Canada, all over Europe, in many parts of Asia, in Australia and New Zealand, and in most other countries of the globe. Do we miss our friends and family? Yes. Do we occasionally miss aspects of our former country? Yes. Do we plan on ever living again in the United States? Never. And those of us with permanent residence or citizenship can sponsor family members from back home for long-term visas in our adopted countries.

In closing, I want to remind you of something: unless you are an American Indian or a descendant of slaves, at some point your ancestors chose to leave their homeland in search of a better life. They weren’t traitors and they weren’t bad people, they just wanted a better life for themselves and their families. Isn’t it time that you continue their journey?

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Realestatepup
Realestatepup
September 23, 2014 8:47 am

Total left-wing clap trap. While I agree with some of the things on here, most of it is no longer true. The system in Europe is collapsing under the crushing weight of their own FSA and lack of tax revenue. Their system was no more sustainable than ours.
And relinquishing control to any government to protect you from either salmonella, HFC, or terrorists is just plain silly, because they can’t and shouldn’t have to.
We are ADULTS. READ. Make a CHOICE. The problem here is no one is responsible for the choices they make!
I do not eat GMO’s or CAFO animals. I am not rich. so that’s not an argument why I eat the way I do. I choose NOT to eat HFC because I read the damn labels. I don’t expect the government to do it for me.
I don’t think there are really any great places left to live unless you are willing to make some hard choices, stand up for yourself, and not live in fear.
Most illnesses are due to lifestyle choices. Choose to live healthy, stop living in fear, and realize that money and “stuff” is not happiness anyway. Guess what? You will be fine.

Stucky
Stucky
September 23, 2014 9:00 am

“You should leave the United States of America.” ———- from the article

Can’t.

After reading this article, maybe I’ll just commit suicide.

Tommy
Tommy
September 23, 2014 9:17 am

We drew the short straw, so what. Every country is like a wheel and our part of the wheel is going through shit – but you don’t quit. I’m tired of the ‘you should move here’ line. I’ll admit the piece is sobering though, but you don’t quit unless your a quitter.

bb
bb
September 23, 2014 10:06 am

I can’t leave either unless you call moving to Montana leaving but it’s to Damn cold up there. I guess I’m stuck like Stucky.

Aquapura
Aquapura
September 23, 2014 11:03 am

If it sounds like propaganda…it probably is. I’ve worked alongside a number of ex-pat’s here in the good ol’ USA from places like Canada, Germany, UK, Singapore, etc. They all came here for a better job, higher income, etc. Sure things are really great in a lot of countries if you are the 1%. Maybe in some of those other countries it bleeds down to the 5%, so what. The elites rule the world over and the rest of us get the scraps.

Stucky
Stucky
September 23, 2014 11:57 am

“If it sounds like propaganda…it probably is ….. Sure things are really great in a lot of countries if you are the 1%. ” ———– Aquapura

Have you traveled outside of America? It doesn’t sound like you have.

I know a little about Austria; drop dead gorgeous cities and towns, world-class medical care, top of the line higher education, cultural nirvana, no poverty, little crime …… yeah, that’s right, … and you sure as hell don’t need to be a 1%er.

Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 2:10 pm

Meh… THIS piece of shit is the “most popular” article ever written on TBP?!?

Basically, it’s “You suck, your kids suck, your jobs suck, your vacations suck, health care sucks… it’s ALL YOUR FAULT! But, somehow, you’re supposed to abandon ship and move somewhere else before the implosion because it’s easier to fuck shit up and then leave, than it is to clean it up.”

Fuckin’ leftist bullshit… “single payer healthcare system”… that what they calling Socialized medicine these days? Yeah, about that whole “socialism” thing? Fuck that.

Lived in Europe. Lived in Central America. Both have good things going for them, and bad things that suck ass, same as anywhere else.

Want to wash your car on Sunday in Germany? Nope. Some fucking nosy assed neighbor will dime you out to the cops – snitch motherfuckers… The cops will come by and tell you – no shit and for real – that you have to stop washing your car because it’s defined as “WORK”. WTF, right? Trying to explain to a German cop that his definition of work, and your definition of work are two different definitions will get you nowhere. It’s either stop what you’re doing, or get a ticket/whupped/go to jail.

Central America? Hardly a bastion of freedom. Saw a PNP knock a bad guy to the ground and then tell him “Get up and run”. Dude was like “You’re gonna shoot me!” Cop was like “You’re gonna get shot anyway. Might as well make a run for it.” Bang. Cop dropped him. But, I suppose getting gunned down by a crooked, thug of a cop is offset by the beaches, beer, volleyball and chicks… and drugs. LOTS of drugs. Everything heading to El Norte has to go through Panama, etc. Result? Lots of drug-related crime.

I swore an oath to defend this Republic. Just because I don’t wear green or ACU’s anymore doesn’t mean I am released from my oath. SOME people take that shit seriously. Anonfuk can take his ball and go somewhere else like a fucking lazy-assed coward, then badmouth us from long-distance. I’m gonna stick around and try to save what I can, while I can… because goddammit! Some shit is WORTH trying to save..

Anonfuk can go live in some slope country and eat fuckin’ fish heads and rice for all I care. Don’t want to hear about how smart he was because he chickened out and ran for it while the rest of us cowboyed up and stood tall when it fuckin’ mattered…

Take advice from some coward leftist who abandoned his country? You got to be shittin’ me…

Stucky
Stucky
September 23, 2014 2:30 pm

“Meh… THIS piece of shit is the “most popular” article ever written on TBP?!?” —- Billy

Did Admin write this? hmmm? No.

Did Dmitri Orlov write this? hmmm? Yes

You think it might from HIS website? Well, do ya, punk?

I think you have DSB. You need to go rub one off.

Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 2:43 pm

Stuck,

Dude… reading comprehension much?

Pretty sure I read this disclaimer at the beginning —> “Guest post by Anonymous. It’s a bit embarrassing really; this is the all-time most popular post on this blog, and I didn’t even write it!”

Did I blame Admin? Hmmmm? Nope.
Did I blame “Anon”? Hmmmm? Yep.

Stuckfuk —> “You think it might from HIS website? Well, do ya, punk?”

Yeah, cause it says “VIA DIMITRZY ORLOV” right up there at the top in bright blue letters… BOLD letters, too.

You just don’t like what I wrote and got your thong in a twist… but instead of rebutting what I wrote, you choose to infer that I targeted someone wrongly… when, in fact, the only person I mention is Anonfuk.

Pick the thong out of your ass-crack, untwist it and we can all get on with our lives…

Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 2:47 pm

Stuck… dude, nobody wants to see that shit…

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Chicago999444
Chicago999444
September 23, 2014 3:00 pm

Billy, this is one of your best comments ever. Agree with every word.

The grass always looks greener on the other side, but there can be no perfect place to be if it’s run by fallible humans, and in the end, there’s no place like home.

bb
bb
September 23, 2014 3:08 pm

I might not make it to Montana but I sure as hell can find Kentucky. Billy I believe you and I would make good neighbors. What did you say your address was ?

Stucky
Stucky
September 23, 2014 3:09 pm

Billy

Go suck off a mountain lion.

You said — “THIS piece of shit is the “most popular” article ever written on TBP?!?”

You said, “ON TBP”. TBP!! You thought this was the most popular article ever written on TBP. There is NO denying that …. at least not for people who made it to second grade. Watching you trying to twist words around to mean something else is pretty damn funny, in a sad kind of way.
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You —- “You just don’t like what I wrote and got your thong in a twist… but instead of rebutting what I wrote …”

What is there to rebut? You gave your opinion. Your opinion is as valid as, well, … mine.

But, if you want a rebuttal, here ya go. You are against anyone leaving Amerika. Those people, you say, “chickened out”. Funny how that works only ONE WAY. … leaving the USA. What about coming to the USA? Those people left some country, right? Your wife, she’s from Germany, right? Did she “chicken out” by leaving? My parents … did they “chicken out”?

You know what they call the place you’re not allowed to leave? Prison. Nice view you have there about America, Mr. Patriot.

Again, you need to go rub one out, or something. Really.

Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 3:31 pm

“You said — “THIS piece of shit is the “most popular” article ever written on TBP?!?”

You said, “ON TBP”. TBP!! You thought this was the most popular article ever written on TBP. There is NO denying that …. at least not for people who made it to second grade. Watching you trying to twist words around to mean something else is pretty damn funny, in a sad kind of way.” — Stuckfuk

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preposition: on

1. physically in contact with and supported by (a surface). example: “on the table was a water jug”

located somewhere in the general surface area of (a place). example: “an internment camp on the island”

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Jeebus Krist on a pogo stick…

ONE fucking preposition out of place, and you nuke me for it? Good lord… gives new meaning to the phrase “Grammar Nazi”… especially coming from an Austrian…

You know goddamned well what I meant… it was fucking POSTED HERE, ON TBP. Attributed to “Anonymous”…

Am I against anyone leaving America? Not really.

If you’re not supposed to fucking BE HERE, then seeya, don’t let the door hitya where the Good Lord split ya… adios.

But, if you’re bailing the hell out because you don’t want to be around when shit goes sideways, and then BADMOUTH US FROM LONG RANGE, well, then fuck you. Didn’t need your coward ass anyways… go on to Thailand and gorge yourself on fish heads, rice and slanty eyed whores… that’s okay, we’ll stick around and clean your fucking mess up and do the heavy lifting… just don’t want to hear how fucking smart you were for skating out and leaving the rest of us to pick up the check…

Don’t be a dumbshit, Stuck… it’s one thing to immigrate to a country that, until recently, welcomed white Europeans with open arms and an entirely different thing to skate out for a hidey-hole right before shit blows up and then blame everyone who didn’t for being dumbasses… adding insult to injury, you then crow about how great socialized medicine is, along with how great your hidey-hole is…

Yeah. Fuck all that. I know there’s bad shit coming. But I choose to stay here and try to salvage something worth saving. These United States were the greatest thing to come along in the history of mankind… in 6,000 years of human history, there’s been nothing like it, at all. Not before, and probably not after shit blows up. Therefore, it’s WORTH SAVING – even a little piece of it.

Yeah, I could skip out on the cheque and leave everyone else to pay, then laugh about how smart I was for fucking everyone over as I hid in my little hidey hole, eating fish heads and rice… but I couldn’t live with myself if I did that. Cowardice is not in my DNA.

You want to leave, Stuck? Your or anyone else? There’s the fuckin door.. I just don’t want to read some smug-assed article about how smart you were for fucking everyone over…

Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 3:33 pm

YOU MISUSED A PREPOSITION!!!! YOUR WHOLE POST IS NULLIFIED!!!! — Stuckfuk

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Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 3:35 pm

Here ya go, Stuck..

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dilligaf
dilligaf
September 23, 2014 3:37 pm

Billy riding around ON his bike –

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bb
bb
September 23, 2014 3:39 pm

Billy , your address and phone number please.

Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 3:58 pm

bb

Yeah, sorry bro… ain’t gonna happen.

First Rule of the Internet is DON’T put your real self on the internet… if I posted my real life information, every fucking mouth-breathing lowlife in creation would be calling my house, bombarding me with hate-emails, badmouthing my family… some of these fuckers are seriously off their fucking axle… I’d have to sit up nights for the rest of my life with an assault rifle if I posted my real life address, just so the fuckers wouldn’t do anything fucking stupid…

Most you’re gonna get is my real first name… which you already got. And the Commonwealth I live in… but it’s a big Commonwealth. There’s like 4+ million of us here… good luck.

Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 3:59 pm

dilligaf

Heh…

That would be funnier if the handlebars were removed…

Stucky
Stucky
September 23, 2014 8:09 pm

Nice Nazi pictures. Very nice.

All because you can’t admit you thought this article was the most popular on TBP. You can’t admit defeat … ever …. even in the most trivial of matters. You ain’t all there, Jack.

So fuck you and your Nazi pics.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
September 23, 2014 9:39 pm

if I posted my real life information, every fucking mouth-breathing lowlife in creation would be calling my house -Billy

But Billy I am a highly articulate and professional person and we agree, in my count, much more than we disagree on current issues. Your an ass, and I suppose that is intentional, but dude, your heading toward hermitville.

Then again I recall one wise man saying to me that the reason for the internet is so hot heads, even living next door to one another, will not go Smith and Jones. =0)

bb
bb
September 23, 2014 9:54 pm

Kill Bill ,your an ass ,so leave Billy alone Meathead .I bet you even look like meathead on TV.

Billy
Billy
September 23, 2014 10:15 pm

“Nice Nazi pictures. Very nice.

All because you can’t admit you thought this article was the most popular on TBP. You can’t admit defeat … ever …. even in the most trivial of matters. You ain’t all there, Jack.

So fuck you and your Nazi pics.” — Stucky

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Ottomatik
Ottomatik
September 23, 2014 10:33 pm

Fuckin Chickenshit fuck, stay the fuck out of my hole.

El Comandante
El Comandante
September 24, 2014 12:57 am

Chicago999444 says: Billy, this is one of your best comments ever.

Buy him a fucking house already. I expect I-S will be chiming in soon, you guys have about as much synergy as three tits.

But for calling bullshit, Billy, I agree. This post could have suggested people kill themselves to avoid the end of America as we know it for all its alarmist tone.

Too bad you had to go wrap yourself in the American flag to underscore your point. Like what? You don’t know the majority here is former military also? You aggrandize your persona at the expense of the rest here. Ok, fuck it, I’m just rehashing Tom’s rant.

Good job on that bs call, a bit sloppy though, you made it sound like you were dissing TBP’s most popular article, that one is the dick names article; my dick is called Billy, by the way (short for Billy club).

El Comandante
El Comandante
September 24, 2014 1:02 am

Kill Bill says: Your an ass, and I suppose that is intentional, but dude, your heading toward hermitville.

Nice one KB. Here I thought the Hill Billy Hothead had everyone cowering in a corner of their attic.

bb
bb
September 24, 2014 8:57 am

El Coyote , address pls

Big George
Big George
September 24, 2014 11:09 am

bb,

Why don’t you post your email address, home address and phone number? Then all of the TBP’ers that think you are a bright, intelligent, humorous guy can contact you.

Billy
Billy
September 24, 2014 12:12 pm

El Pig Fucker says: “Buy him a fucking house already. I expect I-S will be chiming in soon, you guys have about as much synergy as three tits.”

HAW!! Nice segue. About as good as the one I left over in the bee thread…

“But for calling bullshit, Billy, I agree. This post could have suggested people kill themselves to avoid the end of America as we know it for all its alarmist tone.”

Pretty much, yeah.

“Too bad you had to go wrap yourself in the American flag to underscore your point. Like what? You don’t know the majority here is former military also? You aggrandize your persona at the expense of the rest here. Ok, fuck it, I’m just rehashing Tom’s rant.”

It’s not about self aggrandizement, you stupid bean bag pig fucker. The reason I am staying is because I gave my word. Like I said – SOME of us actually take that shit seriously… as opposed to those who enlist because they view the military as a giant make-work jobs program like the blacks.. or a fast-track to citizenship like, oh, say… a bunch of Mexicans?

Wrap myself in the flag? What da fuck? I love my country and I think making an effort at saving even a tiny piece of it is worth it… Besides, who else is gonna step up? YOU? Best of my knowledge, you didn’t step up during a time of relative peace here in the US. You really think you’re going to convince anyone you’re going to step up when it all goes to shit? Keep telling yourself that, Hay-soos… maybe you’ll convince some of the folks on the low end of the bell curve… like other Mexicans…

“Good job on that bs call, a bit sloppy though, you made it sound like you were dissing TBP’s most popular article, that one is the dick names article; my dick is called Billy, by the way (short for Billy club).”

Dude… that’s piss weak. Even you have to admit it’s piss weak. But, leave it to a fuckin’ Fesskin to come up with some lame-assed Fail of an insult…

Here’s some jokes for you, esse…

There’s two Mexicans in a car driving down the street. Who’s driving the car?

The cop.

What do you call a Mexican getting baptized?

Bean dip.

Juan, Carlos and Antonio all jump off a cliff to see who will hit the ground first. Who wins?

America.

What are the first four words in every Mexican cookbook?

Go steal a chicken.

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The one on the right looks sorta like Harvey Keitel…

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Dude… who started this fuckery?? A forehead mustache?

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bb
bb
September 24, 2014 12:22 pm

Big George , bite my weenie ……Faggot ….. You post your address… I was just kidding with Billy and El Coyote …… better yet ,I think you should mine you own business. Faggot.
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TE
TE
September 24, 2014 12:40 pm

His obvious misconceptions about how great and free nationalized healthcare is, is precious. And as Europe is being crushed under their own debt (which, unlike ours, DOES include health, so they are really ahead of us there too), the “free” is going to become more “lucky” and “random” as the reality of math – yes, even in Europe – rears its head again.

Anyway, stupid blindsides notwithstanding, the boy has his points.

The numbers and power of those benefiting from the decline is many times greater than those seeing the need for change. Today. Today that is true. Which does not bode well for changes of any significance. Well, changes for the better, I’m sure they have a few more O’cares up their honorable sleeves in DC.

We either have a long way of continued contraction and pain, or a short to long way then sudden screw-us-in-the-ass pain. Either way I feel it ends the same way.

He is right. If you wish to avoid this flavor of disaster, leaving would be smart. What isn’t smart is believing that once clear of our physical borders all is well and good and true and everlasting. Leaving is absolutely no protection from jumping out of the frying pan into the fire.

And believing that any of those countries mentioned are “safe” when the problem is government overspending & overreach & corruption, is the textbook definition of jumping into the fire.

There will be few places not devastated when our ship collapses. America has been the wheel and the grease of the last 100 plus years of earth’s advancement.

Even though the rich meglamaniacs and their corrupted lackeys don’t fully realize that.

Or, maybe they do and no truly no longer think we are necessary. Post thriving Middle, I guess.

Either way, bad stuff is coming and trying to hide out in Europe wouldn’t be mine plan of action. The shit will be splattered everywhere, the EU is going to be drowning in it.

Can’t leave so I pray, hope, and prepare, the best I can.

While living for today.

Which, really, is exactly what the author is doing, he is just doing it from a unnatural – and likely temporary – safe-feeling/optimistic place and state of mind.

Only time will tell if he is safe. As it will tell us how right he was about here. We’ll see.

I hope.

Billy
Billy
September 24, 2014 12:43 pm

Meanwhile… in Mexico…

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el Beaner
el Beaner
September 24, 2014 1:36 pm

Billy loves most Americans
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Billy
Billy
September 24, 2014 1:55 pm

Because Mexicans are soooo tolerant, right?

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Here’s some nice Mexican boys demonstrating their tolerance…

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Billy’s Sister
Billy’s Sister
September 24, 2014 2:06 pm

Billy

Why u wasting ur time with that beaner? You come here and give ur kin some lovin’!
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Billy
Billy
September 24, 2014 2:17 pm

Awww, how cute… the doppel thinks they’re being cute… knowing the one thing that’s off limits – family – that’s what they try to attack me with…

Hey coward… why don’t you come play using your real ID? Why hide behind a doppel? Nobody let you have your balls today, so you have to hide? It must suck to have to hide behind a fake ID so you can try to get at someone by mocking their family… sure sign of desperation and failure… and no balls whatsoever.

Oh well. Your delivery of Fail has arrived.

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Billy’s Wife
Billy’s Wife
September 24, 2014 2:24 pm

Honey, our wedding pictures just arrived.
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Billy
Billy
September 24, 2014 2:31 pm

Yawn…

Wake me when you have something worthy of notice…

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bb
bb
September 24, 2014 3:24 pm

The founder of La Raza really means what he is saying. I heard him talk before on CNN .He is a hateful sob .What he fails to realize is hate works both ways. In general blacks don’t like Mexicans especially the ones here. The racial conflicts that are coming will not be pretty but blacks at least see whites as Americans .The ones I’ve talk to don’t see mexicans as Americans. It going to be interesting.Just hope I can stay out of the way.

El Comandante
El Comandante
September 24, 2014 9:41 pm

Peace, Billy. I love the attention, I really do. It’s been a crazy month. It looks like I will be going to another funeral this month. Won’t burden you with the details. I really appreciated that you took the time to acknowledge that I’m not full of shit all the time.

Beibs, you can get my email address from admin, however, it may take me a while to reply because it is my home email and I hardly ever look at that. unless you somehow notified me that you emailed me.

El Comandante
El Comandante
September 25, 2014 12:52 am

A coup de grace is one last kindness. You, being utterly lacking in grace or kindness, prefer to give your victim one last kick to the head as he lays on the floor after you beat him senseless. Even Scagnetti (NBK) had the decency to reassure his victim, telling her, I’m kidding, I’m kidding, as he choked her to death.

Take a look at the shit you took on TBP above; the only class you ever had was the one you took when you joined the klan.

Econman
Econman
September 26, 2014 4:30 am

As poor as bb’s English is, I thought he dumb SOB was Mexican!