Why Is The USDA Buying Submachine Guns?

By Charles McFarlane of Modern Farmer

Why Is The USDA Buying Submachine Guns?

“Submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot bur[s]t trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsib[l]e or folding, magazine – 30 rd. capacity.”

In May, the USDA’s Office of Inspector General filed a request for these weapons. But why exactly do they need them?

According to a USDA press rep, the guns are necessary for self-protection.

“OIG Special Agents regularly conduct undercover operations and surveillance. The types of investigations conducted by OIG Special Agents include criminal activities such as fraud in farm programs; significant thefts of Government property or funds; bribery and extortion; smuggling; and assaults and threats of violence against USDA employees engaged in their official duties,” wrote a USDA spokesperson.

Those seem like legitimate enforcement activities, but still: submachine guns? Not everyone believes the USDA being armed to the teeth is justifiable. On Aug. 2, the Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund launched a petition to support a bill that would curb the ability of agencies like the USDA to arm themselves. They see it as overkill and scare tactics, especially for smaller producers.

“What we have seen happen, with the FDA especially, is they have come onto small farms, raw milk producers, and raided the heck out of them with armed agents present,” says Liz Reitzig, co-founder of the Farm Food Freedom Coalition. “Do we really want to have our federal regulatory agencies bring submachine guns onto these family farms with children?”

The Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund petition focuses on two now infamous blows to the raw milk community – the 2010 and 2011 raids on Rawsome Food Club in Venice, California. These raids were carried out by armed federal agents, from the FDA and other agencies.

The OIG’s Investigation Development bulletins show there have been three incidents in the last year that involved firearms and two in which USDA agents were verbally threatened. Still, most of their enforcement operations surround white-collar fraud of government programs, often involving SNAP programs. “If there is fraud in the SNAP program, look at how it is implemented and make changes in the entire program,” says Reitzig. “Don’t bring machine guns onto farms.”

The Farm to Consumer Legal Defense Fund are not the only ones interested in taking guns out of the hands of USDA agents. Utah Congressman Chris Stewart is the sponsor of the bill on the FTCLDF petition. “At its heart it comes down to this: To myself, and for a lot of Americans, there is great concern over regulator agencies with heavy handed capabilities,” Rep. Stewart told Modern Farmer.

His bill, H.R. 4934, hopes “to prohibit certain federal agencies from using or purchasing certain firearms, and for other purposes.” When asked about the USDA’s plan for submachine guns, he said, “I can’t envision a scenario where what they are doing would require that.”

Another concern is simply accountability. The request for submachine guns from the USDA doesn’t say how many guns — asking them seems like a non-starter. “They have been very unhelpful in trying to find out any information about this,” said Rep. Stewart. “We couldn’t get answers — it doesn’t seem right to me.”

However, he also cautioned: “We have never argued that federal regulators don’t need to protect themselves.” But if USDA investigations were perceived to be potentially violent he suggested, “They should do what the rest of us do, call the local sheriff.”

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dc.sunsets
dc.sunsets
September 28, 2014 7:10 pm

I met an FBI agent the other day.

At first, I thought to myself, “Look out, this is one of the people with almost limitless power, to whom saying anything at all is dangerous because all they have to do is claim what you said is a lie, and Wham! You’re in jail.”

As time passed, however, it became obvious I was worried for nothing.

The guy was desperate to show me he was carrying a gun in the hospital where civilians were prohibited from CCL (we were visiting the same patient) and insure I knew he was an FBI agent. The need to be seen as “important” was kind of pathetic, and it was clear he was a little mind made “big” by his (ooooooh!) job.

BOTTOM LINE: people who go into “law enforcement” are often (if not always) trying to overcompensate for weak minds or weak character. While heavily armed, they should be respected like one respects rattlesnakes or Cape buffalo, but they are not “supermen” at all; in fact, I’d say they’re below average in smarts and self-respect. People become cops (local, state or fed) because it gives the power that they didn’t have to earn by being wiser or better than their peers.

It’s like kissing the big boss’ ass enough to be given a manager job over others without having to earn that position.

No wonder we have so much trouble with unrestrained, power-drunk cops.

TE
TE
September 28, 2014 7:25 pm

Whatever happened to calling in TRAINED weapon/arrest specialists from OTHER agencies?

Oh, that’s right, we have fiat to burn and redundancy means more paid-for-life union gigs and uber rich crony capitalists.

The overreach, overgrowth, and potential for death for us little guys, is enormous and horrifying.

I wish I thought it could be fixed, instead I just fear how much worse it is going to get before it implodes.

@dc, absolutely. I worked with a girl that was being stalked by her ex boyfriend – an FBI agent. He used his job to track her, track her phone, look up her associates, enter her home, get personal medical records, tried to get work info but luckily the HR director was a bitch and demanded a warrant and a supervisor before releasing the information. The girl was terrified and firmly believed that her only option would be to leave the area unless he was ever allowed transfer out of De’toilet. (Side note, De’toilet used to be the punishment assignment for Fed agencies. If you are in De’toilet, you are/were in trouble)

LEOs and other bureaucrats have nearly unlimited personal power over the helpless ‘murkin they are dealing with. They know it.

This situation truly appeals to the mentally damaged amongst us.

Sane, normal people, have no desire to spend their days tormenting and destroying other good people because they failed to follow one of the million rules and laws we have to follow.

A sane, normal person would find this abhorrent.

I’ve met many a government worker that was nearly gleeful at the destruction they were spreading.

It turned them on to shut down a business and destroy a family.

They got off by tearing a family apart and making their lives living, long-term, hell in the courts and counseling systems.

They LOVE it.

This is yet one more reason why we now suck so bad. Good people have barely a chance against their ever-growing hoards with ever-more advanced technology and funds.

dc.sunsets
dc.sunsets
September 28, 2014 8:09 pm

@TE
A long time ago I had the experience of wielding a little power.

It made me an utter asshole, I mean, I’m embarrassed by it to this day.

I think of this whenever I pass a cop, see a cop, can’t avoid some BS celebration of cops, etc., etc.

Power corrupts, so by axion every cop exercises power and must by definition be corrupted by it. Every angel becomes a demon via the exercise of power.

The sad part of this is that the religious faith people have that power hierarchies are necessities of life is just not true. Humans can have a noncoercive society, we just lack the imagination to recognize this and are thus stuck trying forever to find a coercive monopoly system that doesn’t fail like EVERY PREVIOUS ATTEMPT.

Stucky
Stucky
September 28, 2014 10:46 pm

Copfuks and pols are in the same boat …. anyone wanting those jobs is, by definition, a perverted fuckwad.

Only people who DON’T want those jobs are qualified to hold the position. So, we need to force them to take the job. Like me …. force me to be a copfuk and I’d retire after 20 years without making a SINGLE arrest, writing a SINGLE motorist violation, and my gun would be rusted and corroded. I’d be like Barney Fife … a BIG Barney.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
September 29, 2014 9:59 am

I have no problem with the USDA having weapons…..evryone knows the Amish are bad mothers when caught selling raw milk.

TE
TE
September 29, 2014 10:36 am

@dc, “EVERY PREVIOUS ATTEMPT”

Those times we just didn’t have enough:

a. money
b. power
c. technology.

THIS time is DIFFERENT!

/sarc

Lysander
Lysander
September 30, 2014 5:12 am

Maybe they’re getting submachine guns ’cause they’re more fun then a barrel full of monkeys. The USDA used to shoot diseased cattle in pits and then burn their carcasses. With a vitually inexhaustable supply of ammo, they can just blast away, as they stand on the edge of a pit full of domestic sneaky-ass cracker terrorists.