PANIC MORE DANGEROUS THAN THE DISEASE

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Mark
Mark
October 18, 2014 9:47 am

Oh boy. He still doesn’t get it.

No one but homos fear HIV . And they still have options to feel as if they can control the disease.

Obola is a different matter. People don’t want to fly on airlines with sniffling , wheezing Africans.

Panic is not logical construct but an evolutionary one.

GilbertS
GilbertS
October 18, 2014 10:43 am

Yesterday, at my workplace, there was a person vomiting outside the office and everyone immediately had a collective panic attack. I left early, put on a surgical mask (gonna start taking one of my better ones from now on), rode the bus home, rang the bell and asked my wife for a bathrobe and towel and trashbag for my clothes, stripped, wiped down with some disinfectant, and went in to take a hot shower. Later, I found out the puker was just some random idiot. So that was a scary test run!
It’s not really panic when the threat is real-it’s just a healthy respect for the fucked up nature of what’s going on. at this point, if you aren’t scared, you aren’t paying attention!

BTW-I’ve been selling some old NBC surplus on ebay. They sent me a nastygram because I mentioned it could, if used in accordance with CDC rules, help protect you from Ebama. Well, turns out that violates their policies. I never said it’s a cure and stated up front it wasn’t a space suit or magic bullet. Ebay explained in their letter there are government agencies monitoring Ebay and specifically identifying ads for them to take down, specifically anything that mentions Ebola cures or protection. Can you believe that? They’re trying to stop people from even selling possible protective gear. I got around it by generalizing my items as “pandemic response” gear and explained to bidders that I wasn’t allowed to name a disease that starts with “E.” I renamed it West African Nasties (WAN). That has flown past the censors, so far.

I guess I understand the government’s objections. I could poentially be held liable if anyone is dumb enough to turn to the CDC for guidelines for preventing Ebama!

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 18, 2014 11:07 am

An epidemic is not a problem until it’s a problem. When your life may be in danger, erring on the side of caution is the prudent course.
RP is correct, the panic will out run the disease with the potential to cause great harm, looting, riots, financial chaos, etc.

Stucky
Stucky
October 18, 2014 11:10 am

“West African Nasties”

HAHAHAHAHA!, Damn, that’s funny. It got by the censors cuz they probably thought you were talking about Obama.

Erasmus Le Dolt
Erasmus Le Dolt
October 18, 2014 11:37 am

Governments will do everything wrong in a crisis until it is too late—then they’ll start slowly to do things right. During the Middle Ages ‘black death’ cats were killed by the thousands because they thought cats were the carriers. That was good news for rats. Don’t expect much better from Obola.

ASIG
ASIG
October 18, 2014 6:16 pm

This Idea that we don’t need to worry about Ebola until the number of deaths reaches some serious level, show a lack of understanding of the potential of a chain reaction type dynamic.

Even now with only one death from Ebola this thing already has the potential to spiral out of control.

Nurse #2 got on a plane with 150 or so passengers and from that there are around 700 people they’re going to try to track that were potentially infected from that one screw-up. I heard on the news today that it has been determined that nurse #2 was further along with the disease then they originally thought which translates into the risk that those 700 may have been infected is higher than they originally thought.

Even if only1% of those 700 is infected, (we’re FUCKED) just consider what are the odd all of them will be handled perfectly?

Would anyone in their right mind say don’t worry about a nuclear weapon detonation in your city until the number of deaths exceed 500? Because the time between 500 to 500 thousand is too late to worry.

Oh and let me remind you our borders are still open to accept more infected travelers.

Watch the video (WE’RE SCREWED) at the 18 sec mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zNfI4oVjZc

MIA
MIA
October 18, 2014 6:44 pm

PANIC ON THE EBOLA CRUISE: ‘It’s Like A Floating Petri Dish’
NICK ALLEN AND ROB CRILLY, THE DAILY TELEGRAPH

The Telegraph Ebola Virus OCT. 18, 2014, 3:39 PM 5,935 4

It was supposed to be an escape to the Caribbean sunshine for a week of partying, relaxation, and sipping champagne while watching gorgeous sunsets from the decks of a luxury cruise ship.

But four days after the Carnival Magic set sail from Galveston, Texas rumours began swirling that all was not well on board.

The ship, complete with a swimming pool, an array of water slides, and a giant cinema screen, inexplicably stopped off the coast of Belize and the whispers began.

“The rumours were going round — we were stuck in the mud. Someone’s been kidnapped,” said one passenger.

As the theories got wilder over the clink of cocktail glasses at the bar, nobody imagined they were actually about to be at the centre of an international Ebola scare.

Finally, the captain confirmed on the loudspeaker that, among their number, was a woman who worked as a lab supervisor at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas.

She had processed clinical samples from Thomas Eric Duncan, a Liberian man who was the first person diagnosed with Ebola in the United States. Mr Duncan, 42, died on Oct 8, four days before the ship sailed.

The lab supervisor, and her husband, were voluntarily quarantined in their cabin as fear spread on the ship, which is due to arrive back in Galveston on Sunday.

Passenger Jon Malone said there was “utter panic” on board, adding: “People are scared. I’ve seen people crying. You’re using the same buffet line as someone else, the same waiters, the folks that clean the state rooms.

“If someone was cleaning their state room and cleaned yours right after, the exposure that you have there to elevators … it’s very tight quarters and a lot of interaction.

“It’s really difficult to control any type of virus that’s on a cruise ship. It’s like a floating petri dish. It spreads very rapidly. They’re cleaning elevators. I’ve seen people with pink liquid cleaning the bar area and the handrails.”

His brother Jeremy Malone said: “You see a ton of people that are crying, and then there are folks that are having a drink.”

Outside his room on the 11th floor Jeremy Malone saw up to 40 workers with cleaning fluids and wearing masks.

He said: “There was a lot of folks who clean the state rooms with buckets and chemicals and people in masks were running around the ship.”

As word of an Ebola scare spread so many passengers tried to call home that all they could get on mobile devices was a busy signal, and the internet crashed.

One passenger, who gave his name as Michael, was able to get through to CNN by telephone. He said: “Obviously our concern is where is this person is on the ship and what kind of set up do they have to care for them? I can’t imagine it’s a completely quarantined area. They have not told us at all where the person is.

“My wife has medication for a kidney transplant, she’s susceptible to getting something a little easier than the rest of us, and we don’t know where this person has been on the ship.”

The passenger said he first realised something was wrong when he looked on a map of the ship’s course on his television.

He said: “We were supposed to put into a port and I noticed that we were pulling away from the port. The captain finally came on and said we couldn’t get permission to port.

“That’s when everything hit the fan here and we realised we were quarantined.

“There were all kind of rumours. They never really said Ebola, they said ‘symptoms,’ they kept it somewhat vague but everyone knew what they were talking about.”

The lab supervisor boarded the Carnival Magic, which carries 3,690 passengers and up to 1,367 crew, in Galveston, on Oct 12.

She had not been placed under any travel restrictions by the hospital, or the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Both have been criticised for not telling health workers who had contact with Mr Duncan to stay home.

The woman on the ship was only required to self-monitor her temperature daily to see if she had developed a fever.

After seeing news reports about two nurses who worked at the hospital — Nina Pham, 26, and Amber Vinson, 29 — being diagnosed with Ebola she decided to report herself to the captain, and self-quarantine by staying inside her cabin.

The ship then applied to go drop her off in a port in Belize so she could be flown back to Texas, but the Belize govenment refused.

Dean Barrow, the country’s prime minister, refused a personal appeal from US Secretary of State John Kerry to send a helicopter to pick her up from the Carnival Magic and take her to a plane waiting at an airport in Belize.

Mr Barrow said: “It is clear, even in the US with all their capacity, with all their expertise, there are still a lot of unanswered questions as to how this thing gets transmitted. Their response, their approach, their treatment of the issue, seems to be a work in progress.”

In a statement his government said: “The passenger never set foot in Belize. When even the smallest doubt remains, we will ensure the health and safety of the Belizean people.”

Asked about Belize’s refusal to accept the passenger, a US State Department spokeswoman said: “We think it could probably have been handled differently.”

The Carnival Magic then sailed on to Mexico where it had been scheduled to dock int he port of Cozumel. It was hoped the woman could be airlifted from there, but again it was not allowed into port.

“I’m on the Carnival ship with the Ebola scare. Mexican authorities not allowing us into Cozumel. Heading back to Galveston,” Eric Lupher, a passenger who works as a reporter for ABC7 in Denver, Colorado, said in a post on Twitter.

Mr Lupher described how fear began spreading among the passengers on Thursday night.

He said: “We were about five miles off the shore of Belize just sitting in the boat in the ocean, not knowing what was going on. The boat wasn’t moving. It was like that for several hours. Then we started moving in the middle of the night.

“More than 12 hours later we were told this person was on the ship. The captain came on the loudspeaker and told us what was going on. He never said the word Ebola, but everyone knew. On the elevators, people were talking about it. And a lot of people were upset about it.”

Up to that point, he said, “the party just kind of kept going. The pools were open, the slides were open, people were still eating at the buffet, touching areas that everybody touches. There’s a lot of concern over communication.”

Mr Lupher said the issue that most worried passengers was how they would be treated when they arrive in port in Texas.

He said: “There is a lot of concern over what’s going to happen when we get back to Galveston. It’s our understanding we’re just going to get off the boat and go home — but is that really going to happen?”

Mr Lupher posted a photograph on Twitter of people still lining up for food on the ship. He said: “Despite Ebola scare … people still eating at the buffet.”

Another passenger, a teenage girl called Delaney, joked on social media that the Carnival Magic was “stuck in mud.” She said: “Nothing like Mexico not even letting us on land. At least I have chocolate cake and Dr Pepper…”

Carnival Cruise Lines distributed a letter to passengers telling them: “At this time the guest remains in isolation on board the ship and is not deemed to be a risk to any guests or crew.

“It is important to reiterate that the individual has no symptoms and has been isolated in an extreme abundance of caution.”

The maximum incubation period for Ebola is 21 days and it has been very nearly that long since the woman handled Mr Duncan’s samples, showing no symptoms, so it is likely she is out of danger.

Carnival offered compensation of $200 per passenger to those on board, and a 50 per cent discount on future cruises, as an apology for missing the Mexican stop.

A spokesman said: “We greatly regret that this situation, which was completely beyond our control, precluded the ship from making its scheduled visit to Cozumel and the resulting disappointment it has caused our guests.”

The US State Department said it was working with the cruise line to “safely bring them back to the United States out of an abundance of caution.”

More than 4,500 people have died so far in the world’s largest ever outbreak of Ebola in West Africa

The World Health Organisation has warned that the infection rate could reach 10,000 a week by early December.

In Dallas patients were avoiding the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital and only one third of the 900 beds were filled.

Rachelle Cohorn, a medical worker, said: “It feels like a ghost town. No one is even walking around the hospital.”

US President Barack Obama warned against panic as the country was swept by a series of false alarms.

Those included one at the Pentagon where an entrance was closed and Ebola precautions enacted after a woman was sick in a car park. No evidence was found that she was suffering from Ebola.

In his weekly address to the American people Mr Obama said: “What we’re seeing now is not an ‘outbreak’ or an ‘epidemic’ of Ebola in America. This is a serious disease, but we can’t give in to hysteria or fear.”

Mr Obama also said he would not be introducing a ban on air travel into the US from West Africa, despite many calls to do so.

He said: “Trying to seal off an entire region of the world, if that were even possible, could actually make the situation worse.

“Experience shows that it could also cause people in the affected region to change their travel, to evade screening, and make the disease even harder to track.”

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/panic-on-the-ebola-cruise-were-a-floating-petri-dish-2014-10#ixzz3GXIpQ7QN

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 18, 2014 6:54 pm

Obama said we are a nation of 300 million and have only had 3 cases of Ebola. The dumbass does not know the outbreak in West Africa started with ONE child in December 2013. God how much longer must we endure his illogical reasoning.

ASIG
ASIG
October 18, 2014 7:38 pm

I suspect that the odds of the lab worker on the cruise ship being contagious are probably very low, having said that the odds are not 0.

The fact that she is on a ship and in such close contact in an environment absolutely ideal for spreading infectious diseases is mind boggling. The fact that the number of people at risk if she is contagious is around 5000 is almost too much to comprehend. The potential for this disease to rapidly spiral out of control should be obvious.

If it turns out she is infectious then it’s only obvious what Obama will say:

“WELL THERE YOU GO — MIGHT AS WELL CONTINUE WITH UNRESTRICTED TRAVEL TO WEST AFRICA —AT THIS POINT WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!!!!

MIA
MIA
October 18, 2014 9:05 pm

It will be interesting see what happens tomorrow morning when the Carnival cruise ship is scheduled to dock at a port in Galviston TX. On board are the good doctor and her husband from a Dallas Medical Center Hpspital , If they have developed ebola type symptoms before arriving, will the ship be refused entry to the port and 4000 passengers be quarantined for the neat 21 days ? We will find out tomorrow AM and if all is well there will be only 4000 more on the watch list for observation.

Sensetti
Sensetti
October 18, 2014 9:12 pm

The only answer is for Obongo to call in an air strike and sink the boat in deep water.

GilbertS
GilbertS
October 18, 2014 11:21 pm

My next door neighbor is a nice, solid citizen. She’s sweet and thoughtful and somewhat conservative, very mainstream, and religious. I rarely talk about things like Ebama with her and never discuss self sufficiency-I don’t know how she would react, plus she’s a bit of a gossip. So when the topic of Ebama came up, and I told her about my fearful little experience the other day, she was very quick to jump with both feet into her feelings about it. She theorized it wouldn’t be long before we’re patrolling our neighborhood to keep out the less desirable folks from the ghetto down the street. Her take on it is we’re living out Revelations, which her bible study group has been going over of late. This is not a woman who you ordinarily expect to hear talking about shooting people in the street.

Well, to my mind, if upright, uptight citizens (UUC), like her, are already figuring this is going to go South fast, where does the average productive middle class person stand? I have to believe there are millions of people out there right now looking at Uncle Sugar and his clowns and figuring their chances of survival in this situation are diminishing every day they as the lies and fuckups compound. It isn’t hard to put 2 and 2 together to figure out the govt is hopelessly out of its depth at this point. So I wonder when the Great Panic is really going to kick off? When my neighbor, and the many, many neighbors she represents, is starting to look around her and assume it’s going to be Road Warrior very shortly, it’s not looking good for the status quo. Who the hell could foresee 50 year olds planning for their neighborhood going Somalia?

People assume the govt is stupid and screwed up as a matter of course. We expect govt to screw up, but when the screw ups get this bad and this obvious and this unforgivable, I think the govt’s very legitimacy suffers. If Ebama keeps popping up and the pressure and the fear stay at this level, or increase, and all the people see is Barry and his morons rowing with their oars out of the water, I think the govt starts to lose its mandate. “What good are those idiots if they kill us all?!?!”

Also-I couldn’t help thinking if the entire country turns into Ferguson circa last month, the authorities have their work cut out for them.