MH17: more proof that the Ukies did it

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MH17: more proof that the Ukies did it

The Russian newspaper MK has obtained a screenshot of the recording of a civilian Russian radar screen in Rostov – just east of the Russian-Ukrainian border.  This is what is shows:


What this image shows is 20 minutes of recording of the airspace before and after the shooting down of MH17.  The course of MH17 is shown in purple while the numerous little blue “T” shaped objects in the circle show the radar return of one or, possibly two, aircraft which either do not have a transponder or which have not switched it on.  Either way, since we know that the Novorussian Resistance did not have aircraft, and since we know that the Ukrainians have denied that they had any aircraft anywhere near this area at that time, and since we know that had this been a Russian aircraft the US/NATO AWACS and satellites would have picked it up and presented this damning proof a long time ago we can come to the only possible conclusion:  the Ukies and their US/EU patrons are lying, the aircraft seen on the radar are Ukrainian, no Buk missile was involved in the shooting (though I personally believe that one was used to cue the Ukrainian aircraft to MH17) and that MH17 was shot down by a combo of gun and missile fire from one or two Ukrainian aircraft.

The Saker

PS: by the way, if a civilian radar needs a return signal from a transponder to get the identity, altitude and speed of an aircraft, military radars do not.  Since I am quite sure that the Russians also had plenty of military radars in the region, I am equally sure that, just as the US and NATO, the Russian military also has the ironclad proof that the Ukies did it in the form of radar track recordings.  Whether they will ever present such proof or not (and I am sure that they would prefer not to) or whether they will only generate such “leaks” from civilian sources as the one today in MK instead is unclear to me.  I guess it depends on what the AngloZionist propaganda says.

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Stucky

For those who believe (the Ukies didn’t do it) no further proof is necessary.

For those who believe (the Ukies did it) no amount of proof will convince them otherwise.

Speaking of Russkies …

…. the link below is a somewhat long and detailed analysis titled — “The How and Why Behind Obama’s Mysterious Rise to the Presidency”

The answer? Obama is a Manchurian Candidate …. planted by the Russians!

Conspiracy folks will love the article;

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/the-how-and-why-behind-obamas-mysterious-rise-to-the-presidency_112014

Thinker

LOL, Stucky. So the Soviet commies made a plan years ago and put Obama in place to bring down the U.S. Wow, just wow… the people writing that stuff must be on some good hallucinogens.

Persnickety
Persnickety

@Thinker, most highly developed nations (and some non-nation groups like Zionists) are capable of making plans for decades or longer in advance. Things may not work out as they hoped, but they will at least make plans. The US has rarely if ever done this and has trouble planning even 10 years out.

I’m not saying that the article is right about Obama, but that you show your own short-term focus when you mock the idea of such planning.

Olga
Olga

I didn’t care to see the two conflated.

I will say that asking people why MH-17 disappeared from the news cycle does get a few thinking.

http://www.presidentialpuppetry.com/

Kill Bill
Kill Bill

What, what incident?..did you hear, omg, about what the Krdashians did today? Rumor is they got drunk and crashed a Honey Boo family picnic!

overthecliff

The ukes did it and the Russians planted Obama. It is all BS and nobody can prove nothin. You can only be sure if you act on principle not circumstances .

Persnickety
Persnickety

I can be sure that Kim Kardashian’s ass is larger than mine.

llpoh
llpoh

Russia has released image of MH17 being shot down by a jet. Cannot find the story in US MSM anywhere.

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IndenturedServant

Persnickety says:
“@Thinker, most highly developed nations (and some non-nation groups like Zionists) are capable of making plans for decades or longer in advance. Things may not work out as they hoped, but they will at least make plans. The US has rarely if ever done this and has trouble planning even 10 years out.”

+10,000,000.

Central bankers, ie our owners plan many decades and even centuries in advance. It’s why they always remain on top. I think they intentionally brainwash people into believing it is natural and normal for offspring to get the fuck out of mommy and daddy’s house when they come of age. Look at how Asian and Russian immigrants do the opposite. Imagine how much better off minnies would be if Americans had maintained multi generational households. Imagine how much better off our country would be if we had leaders that planned decades ahead for infrastructure and the like. Individual success does not come without planning so there is no reason to expect govt or businesses or families to succeed without it.

IndenturedServant

So if they have imagery of the moment the weapons were fired, why do we not have multiple images of the plane going down over time?

That so called missing Malaysian flight begs similar questions. We have hydrophones (underwater microphones) in every ocean and large body of water on Earth. From the east coast of the US we can identify individual ships by name entering and exiting the Mediterranean simply due to the sound the propellers make as they turn in the water. A jumbo jet going down in the water would make significant noise and hydrophones would definitely pick up that sound. After that, simple triangulation should narrow a location significantly.

Persnickety
Persnickety

@IS, while I suspect that the fate of the “missing” jet is known to intelligence agencies, I don’t consider it a sure thing… if it was mysterious disappearance over the SE Indian Ocean, that is an extremely remote region of very little to about zero strategic value to the US or Russia, so it is probably not monitored to anything near the extent that, say the North Atlantic is, or Strait of Malacca, etc. The closest large city to that region, Perth, is arguably* the most isolated city in the entire world as measured by distance to the nearest city of comparable size… and it’s on the Australian continent, not 1000+ miles offshore in nowheresville. (* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perth#Isolation)

IndenturedServant

I understand your point Persnickety but plenty of shipping lanes run through/near there. Shipping of military interest like goods going to/from China & North Korea transits there and many countries hold Naval military exercises there. It’s the perfect place to identify foreign military ships by sound.

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