“Social warning” from Russia: we are ready for war; are you?

Fourth Turnings are driven by the mood of the populations. The Russians will not be backing down. Misjudgement will lead to war. Obama is a dangerous moron.

Guest Post by The Saker

One of the most striking differences between the Russian and Western media is the fact that the topic of a possible war is constantly discussed in the former and almost never in the latter.  In Russia, the main news shows discuss the risks of war, as do a lot of well-known personalities, and on talk-shows this is a recurrent topic.  Even Putin recently had to declare that he did not believe that a war was likely.  It is as if both Russia and the West were like two trains on the same tracks, going at full speed towards each other but with one big difference: the western “train” is steaming forward with its eyes closed, while the Russian train is going forward with its eyes wide open.The second big difference is the rage and determination which are expressed by Russians of all walks of life.  The most often heard sentence now is “Русские не сдаются” (Russians don’t surrender).  Russians find it amazing and absolutely crazy that the western “leaders” have apparently convinced themselves that the Russians will “blink” and let Obama scare them into not standing up for the Donbass.  The mood is “if you really want a fight, then we will give you one”.

One example if in the Russian social media and the blogosphere.  Today, a reader posted a link to a Russian video (thanks!) which I want to post here and I will add a video I saw earlier.

Please watch these videos and don’t be too quick to dismiss them as irrelevant.  They are an expression of the mood of a big part of the Russian society which has mentally already entered what I would call a “war mode”.  To ignore these “social warning” would be a huge mistake.  I have been saying that over and over again, Russia is ready for war.  It gives me no pleasure to say that (actually it scares me), but I think that this warning must be circulated as widely as possible: Russia will not “blink” and Russia will not surrender.  Russia will not attack first – that is utter nonsense – but if she is attacked, she will strike back with everything she has.

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flash
flash
February 10, 2015 12:45 pm

a half-honky girlie man ,a German dyke and a french puddler all threatening a martial-minded sociopath with ultimatum .This does not bode well for the rest of US.

Kremlin: No one can speak to Putin in ultimatum-like tone

President Putin’s spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, on Monday said: “We’ve already said everything about the tone of the negotiations. No one has ever spoken or can speak to the president in an ultimatum-like tone much as one would like to.”

The comments come in response to a report published by the Wall Street Journal a day earlier, where it was claimed that German Chancellor Angela Merkel has given Putin until February 11 to agree to the peace plan for Ukraine, or face more sanctions.

The report, which cited unnamed Western officials, further noted that the German chancellor also told the Russian leader during the late-night talks in the Kremlin on February 6 that she would not oppose to Washington’s sending military hardware to Ukraine.

The leaders of Russia, Ukraine, Germany and France are slated to convene in the Belarusian capital city of Minsk on Wednesday to revive an earlier deal inked between the sides involved in the Ukrainian crisis and tamp down the flare-up of violence in eastern Ukraine.

http://english.irib.ir/news/world/europe/item/204447-kremlin-no-one-can-speak-to-putin-in-ultimatum-like-tone

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 10, 2015 1:05 pm

Russia has put it out there that they are ready to hit the Saudis with an EMP attack. That would totally disrupt Saudi oil production which would be a brilliant move on their part until the EU and US go full retard on them. Bad news for gas prices at that point.

flash
flash
February 10, 2015 1:27 pm

Seriously a leadership of half-honky homos and gender confused femi-nazis do not want to fuck with this man. They don’t have a strategic nut sack between ’em , so why challenge one who does?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E1aZlADRQU

[img]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjmiyOgO66g[/img]

flash
flash
February 10, 2015 1:28 pm

Watch This Reaction: Putin Laughs Right In This Journalist’s Face

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 10, 2015 1:55 pm

I’ll move this over here.

The United States and the Saudi’s are handling Russia. The Saudis increased oil production again last week in the face of falling prices. Oil is Russia’s economic engine, crash the price of oil and the Russian Bear will hit her knees. Russia is the one being backed into a corner with little recourse other than War. Low oil prices brought Russia down once, we will see if happens twice, time will tell.

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 10, 2015 2:07 pm

From article –> Russia will not attack first – that is utter nonsense – but if she is attacked, she will strike back with everything she has.

Russia has been attacked by falling oil prices. If the price of oil remains low for an extended period of time Russia is in big trouble. Russia will attack at some point somewhere or she will be degraded to a shell of her present self.

I believe Russia learned a lesson from the last time the West and OPEC crashed the oil prices and the USSR disintegrated. I don’t think they will let it happen twice without a war.

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 10, 2015 2:14 pm

Dropping Oil Prices And Sanctions Are Hurting Russia To The Tune Of $140 Billion

Russian Finance Minister Anton Siluanov said that Russia could expect to lose between $90 and $100 billion a year from the global drop in oil prices, and $40 billion from the sanctions imposed by the United States and the European Union.
“We’re losing around $40 billion a year because of geopolitical sanctions, and about $90 billion to $100 billion from oil prices falling by 30 percent,” Siluanov told reporters assembled at a news conference on Monday. And some economists peg those numbers as conservative, due to the weakness of Russia’s currency, the rouble, and how costly it actually is for companies banned from borrowing outside of Russia.
“The main issue that affects the budget and economy and financial system, this is the price of oil and the fall in monetary flows from the sale of energy resources,” the finance minister continued.

coyote
coyote
February 10, 2015 5:33 pm

neo-con fantasies of beggaring russia with cheap oil are so progtard. “those nasty homophobes must pay!!” our euro-pals are already moving away from the foaming at the mouth “policies” blathered daily on the cathedral media: the western hegemony is dead, it flails about in ever increasing spasms of melodrama while all the world boos the “hero”. let us pray they do not wish to kill the audience so they can save it from those “evil roosians”.

and- deflationary oil is a symptom of the dying debt money we created- maybe the saudis are in on it – or not – real facts/ numbers are hard to find, but martin armstrong and other respected economists would discount the idea that there is less oil coming out of saudi- witness many rented tankers filling up on cheap oil by speculators, hoping the price comes back. it probably will. the russians do not have debt. they have a united citizenry willing to suffer to defeat the west- we have nothing except our overinflated pride to lead us to our fall.

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
February 10, 2015 5:44 pm

I am watching this thing play out in utter disbelief. Does the caramel-colored mulatto in the White House really think he can play games with the Russians? And his “advisers”, a gang of poofters, canyon yodelers, high yella nigras who should be selling their booty on Bourbon Street, smarmy Ivy League punks, soft-handed, prissy faced generals, bottom-dealing Democratic shit heel politicians and, last but not least, that absurd creature with the homo haystack hair, mule face and cringe-inducing lack of decency, gravitas and common sense, Kerry-Cohen, what the hell are they thinking?
Putin has no intention of nuking us nor does he have to. He knows the EU has zero intention of fighting a war with Russia and no amount of U.S. aid, lethal or not, can change the facts on the ground. He is going to recognize the Donbass as independent and later absorb it at his leisure. He will simply pee and poop on the idiots who provoked this farce in the first place.

Lysander
Lysander
February 10, 2015 7:26 pm

NATO is a joke. They don’t have the hardware to stop a Russian attack, much less the will. Does anyone think that the Polish or the German people fancy having Russians swarm over their countries again?
The only nations with any semblance of a military are the UK, France and Germany. Here are some numbers in the same order:
From the site; http://westernhero.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-european-order-of-battle.htm

………………..UK – France – Germany……………….
Manpower: 387,330/424,426/328,000
Tanks: 407/423/408
Armored Fighting Vehicles: 6,245/7,290/4,279
Self Propelled Guns: 89/149/185
Towed Artillery: 138/750/0
Rocket Projectors (MLRS): 56/60/252
Total Aircraft: 908/1,203/710
Helicopters: 362/561/401
Aircraft Carriers:1/1/0
Frigates: 13/22/12
Destroyers:6/0/0
Corvettes:0/0/5
Submarines:11/1/4
Coastal Craft: 24/14/8
Mine Warfare: 15/18/15

Okay, now here’s Russia:

Manpower: 3,000,000
Tanks: 15,500
Armored Fighting Vehicles: 27,607
Self Propelled Guns: 5,990
Towed Artillery: 4,625
Rocket Projectors (MLRS): 3,781
Total Aircraft: 3,082
Helicopters: 973
Aircraft Carriers: 1
Frigates: 4
Destroyers: 13
Corvettes: 74
Submarines: 63
Coastal Craft: 65
Mine Warfare: 34

The EU and NATO want to fuck with that? I seriously doubt it. The situation would go nuclear almost right away, as was war planned by the Pentagon decades ago.

Chris Zacherl
Chris Zacherl
February 10, 2015 7:36 pm

We say it often enough, but occasionally it really hits you just how idiotic/psycopathic peeps like McCain/Obama/Clinton/et al actually are. It’s good to be optimistic but difficult to imagine this ending well.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 10, 2015 9:26 pm

T4C

VT contends that Putin is possibly going to release satellite proof about 9/11. That would be interesting to say the least. Might tone down the war drums.

cz
cz
February 10, 2015 10:25 pm

bl and t4c,
I agree with giant grains of salt when reading Gordon (he gives pcg no cred. Maybe he’s right. Thoughts admin?) if 20% of what he writes is real, we live in bizarro world (we do).
Side note: Maybe I don’t look in the right places but I’ve seen no reaction from Russia about our new stance with Cuba.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 10, 2015 10:31 pm

T4C
Low Oil prices are choking Russia hard. All I’am saying is do you think Vlad will just sit on his hands while the Russian economy is crushed by artificially low oil prices? The Saudis can pump oil longer than the Russian economy can stand. Look at the hit it’s already taken in the last six months give it 12 or 24 more months and see how they fair.

Russia’s economy is teetering on the verge of recession. The central bank says it expects the next two years to bring no growth. Inflation is on the rise. The rouble has lost 30% of its value since the start of the year, and with it the faith of the country’s businessmen. Banks have been cut off from Western capital markets, and the price of oil—Russia’s most important export commodity—has fallen hard. Consumption, the main driver of growth in the previous decade, is slumping. Money and people are leaving the country.
http://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21633816-more-decade-oil-income-and-consumer-spending-have-delivered-growth-vladimir-putins

Sensetti
Sensetti
February 10, 2015 10:32 pm

‘Twas I above

cz
cz
February 10, 2015 10:39 pm

I meant pcr not Phillip Christopher Griffin from King of Prussia. My bad…

flash
flash
February 11, 2015 8:27 am

Sensetti…Saudis have no leverage over Russia. A camel humping a bear will not prevail. As the old cliche of .keep fucking around and sooner or later you’re going to get fucked up still stands true today.

How Russia Plans To Retaliate For The Saudi-Driven Collapse In Oil

To be sure, the Chairman of the Russian State Duma International Committee Alexei Pushkov promptly rejected all the NYT allegations, writing on his Twitter account:

“There were no negotiations with the Saudis to decrease oil production
in exchange for Moscow’s refusal to support Assad. Hoax.”

Simple and elegant: if the US does everything in its power to deflect attention from the ongoing conflict for the control of Syria by backing a proxy civil war in Ukraine merely meant to keep Moscow off guard, a civil war that Ukraine and the west are now perilously close to losing, Russia will retaliate, but not in Kiev – that’s irrelevant. It will do so where the pain to the west would be greatest: in Saudi Arabia, the place that is the true ground zero of all Russian hurt in the past 6 months, ever since oil started tumbling from $100, and continued following the historic collapse of OPEC on Thanksgiving Day 2014, where Saudi Arabia unilaterally decided to crush the price of oil indefinitely, or until Putin comes crawling, and begging for a Saudi oil supply halt, in exchange for al-Assad’s head on a silver platter.

Well, that may happen… or if the US does arm Ukraine, Russia may just do everything in its power to take the proxy war away from Ukraine, and right into the hornets’ nest of the House of Saud itself.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-10/how-russia-plans-retaliate-saudi-driven-collapse-oil

WEST: NORAD Head Says Russia Increasing Arctic Long Range Air Patrols

WEST: NORAD Head Says Russia Increasing Arctic Long Range Air Patrols

This is the US security team ….feel froggy…. we’ll do ya’ punk?

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Bea Lever
Bea Lever
February 11, 2015 9:15 am

T4C

The cover of the Economist in January being “Sargent Pepperish” is somewhat a tradition and is thought by some to always hold clues for the coming year. So did you notice the nuke cloud in the upper right hand corner???