The hypocrisy of the liberal left in all its glory. They are outraged and apoplectic about a law their liberal messiah signed into law in 1993. This is their issue du jour this week. Why don’t they protest and boycott all 21 states that have a version of the law in effect? That should work. I wonder what Miley Cyrus thinks about the law.
The ‘extremely controversial’ RFRA is based on a 1993 Federal Law, which is also dubbed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act. It was signed into law by ‘right-wing extremist’ president Bill Clinton.
Above is a map of the states that have signed onto versions of the 1993 RFRA signed into law by former President Bill Clinton (as of 2014). The ACLU map shows 19 states that adopted such legislation; Utah and Indiana more recently passed laws.
The RFRA does not give businesses a “license to discriminate” against LGBT persons, but rather works within a narrow legal parameter to give businesses defense against federal lawsuit. That is because the states can recognize individual rights in a more assertive fashion than the federal government, under the 9th and 10th amendments to the U.S. Constitution.
The HSLDA explains:
[The RFRA] reestablished a test by which courts must give the highest deference to a person’s religious practice (known as the compelling interest test). This test puts the burden of proof on the government to show that its regulation of a religious practice is essential to achieve a compelling governmental interest and the least restrictive means to achieve that interest.
A fact sheet issued by the Indiana House Republicans addresses other concerns:
The only thing RFRA does is establish a judicial review standard state courts must follow when they consider cases where government action is alleged to substantially burden an individual’s exercise of religion. This general standard of favoring religious freedom can be overcome if the governmental entity has a “compelling interest” in the matter and uses the least restrictive means of furthering that “compelling interest.” Typical “compelling interests” of government include prohibiting discrimination against individuals.
RFRA protects the rights of everyone, regardless of their religious affiliation or lack thereof.
In other words, not only can the Christian owners of a bakery refuse to write an inscription on the wedding cake of a gay couple, but the black owners of a T-shirt business don’t have to print the KKK’s burning crosses on shirts, and Jewish owners of a gift shop don’t have to put Nazi symbols on coffee cups.
Everyone has equal rights, or no one does.
a nation of corporate pwned douche-bags…
Apple CEO Tim Cook is making a particular point this week to attack Christians in Indiana calling them “dangerous” but it seems he has no problem at all selling his products in Muslim-led countries that kill gays for being gay and stone women when they are raped. Nor does he have a problem making his product in China, the world’s leading violator of human rights.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/70855
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Admin – business tip…you should ban gays from TBP
No-Pro-Homo pizza parlor raises $490,000 + from freedom of association lovers after being bullied into closing their pizza parlor due to the vicious threats from the nation’s deviant homo subculture.
http://www.gofundme.com/MemoriesPizza#
It’s all about the tolerance , right?
Jess Dooley: High School Coach Suspended For Wanting To ‘Burn Down’ Memories Pizza
http://www.inquisitr.com/1977891/jess-dooley-high-school-coach-suspended-for-wanting-to-burn-down-memories-pizza/
The subculture of deviancy has clearly forgotten the days when men where men…before the age of pussification..Some , indeed are in dire need of a refresher course in good old fashioned ass stomping 101.
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Supporters raise nearly $500,000 for Indiana pizzeria that backs ‘religious freedom’ law
By Silvia Ascarelli
Published: Apr 3, 2015 7:34 a.m. ET
Supporters of the Indiana pizzeria owners who said they wouldn’t cater a wedding for a gay couple have contributed nearly $500,000 to a Gofundme campaign backed by Glenn Beck’s television station.
Memories Pizza in Walkerton, Ind., a town of just over 2,000 that’s about 20 miles southwest of South Bend, has temporarily closed because of the public outcry over the remarks and Crystal O’Connor, one of the co-owners, told TheBlaze TV on Wednesday that it may not be safe to reopen. Reviews for the restaurant on Yelp are now filled with negative reactions to O’Connor’s comments praising Indiana’s controversial Religious Freedom Restoration Act, which she made on Tuesday to a local TV station.
“If a gay couple came in and wanted us to provide pizzas for their wedding, we would have to say no,” O’Connor said.
Also read: Yelp reviewers slam Indiana pizza shop for saying it wouldn’t cater a gay wedding
“It was a gotcha question in my opinion,” said Lawrence Jones III, a reporter and pundit on Dana Loesch’s program on BlazeTV, which is owned by Beck. Jones set up the Gofundme campaign to aid Memories Pizza. “I don’t know any wedding, gay or straight, that’s going to have pizza,” he said.
Businesses, including high-profile Indiana employers, have criticized Indiana’s new law over concerns it would give businesses the right to deny services to gays and lesbians, and on Thursday lawmakers changed the law to state no one can refuse services, employment or housing based on sexual orientation or gender identity among other things. The CEO of Indianapolis-based Angie’s List ANGI, +5.12% , which has put on hold a planned $40 million expansion and hiring spree, reportedly called the revisions insufficient.
See: Could boycott of Indiana disrupt your investments?
The bill put forward on Thursday states that the law enacted last week doesn’t give anyone the right to refuse services, employment or housing based on sexual orientation or gender identity, while also not allowing the law to provide a legal defense in a civil action over the refusal of service. It exempts churches and religious organizations.
The initial goal of the Gofundme campaign was to raise $25,000, and the campaign was announced when O’Connor appeared on Loesch’s show. Jones said the O’Connor family didn’t ask for the campaign.
“The intent was to help the family stave off the burdensome cost of having the media parked out front, activists tearing them down, and no customers coming in,” he wrote. “Our goal was simply to help take one thing off this family’s plate as the strangers sought to destroy them.”
“But other strangers came to the rescue and the total just keeps going up.”
By midday Eastern time on Thursday, the campaign had raised $133,424 from 4,620 people. Friday morning, the total was $491,976 from 16,620 people.
Jones said the campaign will keep going “as long as people are giving.” On Thursday, he had predicted the total could reach $250,000.
“This is not an antigay message,” he said. “This is freedom.”
Is it time the sodomite terrorists and their corporate mouthpieces start paying a personal price for
their acts?
Is it time for some blowback?
Is 99 % of the population going to sit and do nothing as .002 of the population forces them to support and subsidize pathetic, quasi-satanic deviant lifestyles?
Now that live and let live has emboldened the sodomite and pedophile culture to financially and socially terrorize everyday citizens, one has to ask : how far will we let them go before we act?
the cultural civil war rages on nearer and nearer the surface of fusa.
Anytime now, it will go hot.
count on it…..
hypocritical assclown
AES !
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Apple’s just another of corporate welfare bitch riding the back of the US taxpayer straight into the ground.
http://subsidytracker.goodjobsfirst.org/prog.php?parent=apple
Parent Company Summary
Parent Company Name:
Apple
Ownership Structure:
publicly traded
Headquartered in:
California
Industry:
computers
Subsidy Summary Subsidy Value Number of Subsidies
State/Local $446,485,233
I don’t understand the law at all. What exactly does it do? If your religion expressly condemns homosexuality but you may not legally discriminate, what are you free to do?
My biggest prolem with anything legal/religious is the expectation that if you believe in a particular faith, you are expemt from specific legal requirements that other people are compelled to follow, like Quakers/Amish being exempt from military service or Churches not paying taxes ragadless of how much they make while businesses are forced to no matter how little they make.
Because you believe in something that cannot be proven. How do you prove the person claiming the exemption really believes it? What about the person who has developed serious beliefs without the benefit of a faith in God? Why aren’t their beliefs, based on experience, logic and reason given the same legal heft as those based on faith or acceptance of doctrine?
The older I get the less I understand any of the foundations of our political/social systems. They all seem rife with fraud and open to any kind of falsehood as long as it is qualified by some ridiculous contortion of legal language. The only people who seem to be always on the defensive are the ones who are the most open and honest while the biggest rewards are always for the ones willing to twist words and beliefs into whatever serves them best at any particular time.
Tolerance preaching social justice dooky diver says, STOP THE BULLYING !
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lest I fergit’ h/t to
http://ninetymilesfromtyranny.blogspot.com/2015/04/disney-abc-embraces-hateful-x-rated.html
for the pics.
This law is a solution looking for a problem.
And meanwhile on Wall Street, Vaseline stocks continue to sore (sic).
Enormous wisdom from Hardscrabble Farmer – as seems to be the norm.
“When Tim Cook is upset about all the places that he does business because of the way they treat gays and women, he needs to withdraw from 90% of the markets that he’s in, including China and Saudi Arabia. But I don’t hear him being upset about that.”
Carly Fiorina
Pat Buchanan was ahead of his time with his culture war. The left is a religion of social justice. Weather, your a wealthy Manhattenite at a cocktail party or CEO of Apple you must social comply in public.
Stephen Molyneux latest video on our 2 brains and why they evolved is briallant. It goes to the heart of what author Tom Wolfe has been writing about all these years.
Religion trumps economics and all other issues except in reality it can’t trup mathematics.
You TBP ere can talk yourselves blue in the face because your using the “reality” part of the brain. However, the “social conformity” part of the brain is equally hard wired for reproductive success.
Here’s the rub, and you would think a man that has a house full of lawyers, if not an entire skyscraper full, would realize it, the “I’ve been discriminated against” lawsuits tend to be FEDERAL. Indiana’s law matters not a whit to Federal courts UNLESS they want to use it to screw the defendant harder.
The more I watch this, the more I see Kabuki theater at it’s finest.
What horror is taking place somewhere that we are not being told about? This is getting tons of play, and just like the HiLIARy email “scandal,” is more than likely having 50% of the airtime just to excuse the not reporting of something else.
Just like the MSM is blaring today about the 150ish dead, mainly Christians, at the Kenyan college.
Funny how I’ve NEVER seen an MSM report on the government-demanded murders of Christians that is occurring NOW in Egypt and Saudi Arabia, or the American and Saud backed “rebel-friends” fighting ISIS but slaughtering entire communities of Christians.
Any Christian that defends any part of the US’s part of this murderous bullshit, deserves the atonement and penance that I believe is coming their way.
Meanwhile, we argue over whom can love whom vocally and legally, but what are we doing to bring a stop to the slaughter of our Christian brethren within our “allies” borders?
A big part of my atonement will be for the deep hatred I have always felt towards voluntarily-blinded, intellectually-lazy, hypocritical, spewers of hatred and death. It is so black, it just can’t be good for my soul. A soul-deep hatred of hypocrisy is the exact thing that put a wedge between me and God so many, many, years ago. Glad he doesn’t care about that anymore.
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2015-04-03 06:15 by Karl Denninger
But It’s All About DISCRIMINATION You See (RFRA)
Yeah, you see, it’s actually the Christians that are the bigots….. or wait, maybe it’s not?
No one targeted pro-gay bakeries, but gay activists target Christian bakeries. “Support Gay Marriage” is one Christian bakery was sued for refusing to put that slogan on a cake for an event to support the gay agenda. Yet Christian bakeries that refuse to make pro-homosexual marriage cakes are getting sued left, right, and center. They get fined, they get death threats, and they lose their businesses.
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So Shoebat.com decided to call some 13 prominent pro-gay bakers in a row. Each one denied us the right to have “Gay Marriage Is Wrong” on a cake and even used deviant insults and obscenities against us. One baker even said all sorts of profanities against Christians and ended the conversation by saying that she will make me a cookie with a large phallus on it.
And how many of those bakeries have been sued, threatened, or prosecuted by State Authorities? Zero.
Even better — the alleged “pizzeria” that refused to cater a gay wedding….. never did refuse.
They were asked, hypothetically — and in fact said they didn’t care who came in to eat at their restaurant (gay, straight, blue, green, Martian or whatever); it was actively supporting an act their religious beliefs forbid they were opposed to and did not wish to support.
Note that the openly gay bakeries above, numbering 13 in a row that were polled, have not been (1) trashed on social media, (2) threatened with being burned the ground, (3) sued, (4) prosecuted by state authorities or in any other way had the same sanctions they demand be imposed on Christian bakeries — and pizzerias — imposed upon them!
ABC-57 reporter Alyssa Marino’s editor sends her on a half-hour drive southwest of their South Bend studio, to the small town of Walkerton (Pop. ~2,300). According to Alyssa’s own account on Twitter, she “just walked into their shop [Memories Pizza] and asked how they feel” about Indiana’s new Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
Owner Crystal O’Connor says she’s in favor of it, noting that while anyone can eat in her family restaurant, if the business were asked to cater a gay wedding, they would not do it. It conflicts with their biblical beliefs. Alyssa’s tweet mentions that the O’Connors have “never been asked to cater a same-sex wedding.”
So what did that business get for such a response? They were inundated by knowingly false reviews on Yelp (that’s libel folks) by people who have never been there and in fact a female coach at a high school not too far away tweeted what looks like a threat to commit arson:
Who’s going to Walkerton, IN to burn down #memoriespizza w me?
Betcha she wasn’t charged.
So let me see if I get this right.
You can pray at any church you want, as long as it’s not Christian.
You can have any religious beliefs you want, as long as they’re not Christian.
You can live to any religious code you’d like, as long as it’s not Christian.
We are in fact passing laws and enforcing them that act to punish people based on their religious beliefs and the fact that they live their lives to those beliefs, so long as that belief system is Christian.
This comports with the First Amendment and does not in fact exhibit a violation of The Constitution, Federal anti-discrimination law, never mind various laws enjoining threats to violent felonies (arson, for one)….. exactly how?
Does someone mind explaining how this concerted set of activities does not reach both State and Federal Racketeering and extortion statutes and why we who are not part of this pressure group should not boycott all states and corporations that back this sort of crap — starting right now and continuing forevermore until these bigots are prosecuted under the very law they are screaming about and got changed to their liking!
And yeah, this is aimed at you SalesForce and Starbucks, to name just two of many.
Land of the Free
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http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/01/rfra-how-a-local-tv-station-ruined-a-business-and-threatened-a-familys-safety/
RFRA: How A Local TV Station Ruined A Business And Threatened A Family’s Safety
here were no complaints nor denials of service to anyone ever, but because of their religious beliefs, Memories Pizza stands in ruin and the family who owns it has had their lives threatened countless times. How did the O’Connor family, owners of Memories, find themselves in this situation? They were honest with a reporter in search of a story to fit the media’s narrative.
Alyssa Marino is a reporter with ABC 57 News in South Bend, Indiana. With her state in the center of a hurricane over religious freedom, Marino must’ve thought she’d had a coup – a devout Christian business owner willing to speak on camera about their religious beliefs and how it impacts the operations of that business.
The issue of gay marriage is not one that generally comes up when talking about a pizzeria. Neither is straight marriage, for that matter. Local pizza joints aren’t generally hotbeds of wedding receptions. Yet, Marino found herself wandering into Memories Pizza to get the unsuspecting owners to weigh in on an emotional issue which has never come up in the course of the business’s nearly 10 year existence.
When owner Crystal O’Connor told Marino, “If a gay couple came in and wanted us to provide pizzas for their wedding, we would have to say no,” she had to know she’d struck gold.
A Free Man is FREE to discriminate otherwise he is not free.
“What if you are an atheist who really objects to gay marriage? Must you still bake cakes for gay weddings, or will pro-shariah Muslim bakers be the only ones who can walk into court and ask to be excused from doing so..?
Do we respect a gay baker’s right to choose not to bake a cake for the Westboro Baptist Church with icing that reads God Hates Fags?
Do we respect a fundamentalist Muslim baker’s choice not to bake a cake for a bar mitzvah because she really is not crazy about the Star of David?” –Deroy Murdock
This issue is just one of many that keep us treading the shit in a cesspool of hypocrisy. Day in, day out the shit gets deeper and more revolting.
Administrator says: “What if you are an atheist who really objects to gay marriage?
I asked my buddy Ricardo in Honduras why the military cop could kill a sex worker with impunity, he said, she’s a whore and therefore cannot refuse any man; he would be offended.
While for-profit enterprises have to please customers without imposing prerequsites, the same principle doesn’t apply to religious enterprises because as the Isaiah’s job article states, the preacher does not preach for everybody. As Jesus said, this word is for him who can get it.
Drudge posted today that the guy who owns the pizza restaurant and won’t cater to a gay party, has been flooded with contributions in excess of 800K.
2015-04-05 09:00 by Karl Denninger
Fox Makes An Excellent Point
So about that “outrage” by Cook, who is openly gay, on Indiana’s RFRA Law.
The openly-gay Cook made no reference to the fact that Apple’s website proudly notes its products are sold through authorized dealers in such countries as Iran, Nigeria, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates, all countries where homosexuality may be punishable by death.
Yep.
Nations where simply being gay is not a matter of public ridicule or someone saying “no” to making you a cake because the lettering and symbolism you want on it offends their beliefs.
In these nations they just kill you instead. That’s much better from their point of view and from Apple’s point of view it’s perfectly fine for Apple the company to earn profits by selling products and services into such a market, making money from people who are bigots to the point of murdering those who are homosexual.
Salesforce is not immune to this either; they were another loud critic. Well, guess what – they have a branch in Beijing, and China, of course, pays essentially zero lip service (or anything else) to religious freedom or, for that matter, anything we call civil rights.
Falun Gong anyone?
Oh, and let’s not talk about where Apple gets most of the components they use and assembles their devices. That would be China too; Foxconn anyone?
A host on the Imus show (carried by Fox Business) brought this up and basically called Cook a bigot — a charge that appears to facially be true, given these facts (which he cited, by the way, in support of his opinion.)
Fox Business then “apologized”; one has to believe that “apology” was coerced, probably after Apple raised hell and threatened some sort of retaliation (such as, for example, advertising pulls?)
If Cook and Benioff actually believe what they’re trumpeting then they have no business doing business in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and China, to name three specific nations that are specifically and intentionally intolerant of religious freedom of any sort and many of which will literally imprison or execute you for being gay or believing in the “wrong” thing.
It is my allegation that none of these people give a good damn about anything related to “religious freedom” or “gender identity and sexual orientation” at all. You’re free to determine on your own what their true motivation is but anyone with a deep conviction about these matters would not do business in China of any sort — say much less Saudi Arabia.
If you do care about religious freedom, along with freedom of expression (including but not limited to sexual orientation) then you must stand against these firms and organizations whether you are gay or straight, male, female, trans or otherwise.