The Long Retreat in the Culture War

Guest Post by Patrick J. Buchanan

The Long Retreat in the Culture War

The Republican rout in the Battle of Indianapolis provides us with a snapshot of the correlation of forces in the culture wars.

Faced with a corporate-secularist firestorm, Gov. Mike Pence said Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act would not protect Christian bakers or florists who refuse their services to same-sex weddings. And the white flag went up again.

Politics follows culture. And the cultural revolution of the ’60s is triumphant. Traditional Christianity, driven out of schools and the public square, is being whipped back into the churches and told to stay there.

America has gone over to the revolution.

Looking back, the sweep of the capitulation becomes stark.

First came the plea of atheists not to have their children forced to participate in prayers at school. Fair enough. Americans do not believe in compelling people to do as they disbelieve.

Then followed the demand that no child be exposed to prayers or religious books, including the Bible, nor have any day or week set aside as a holiday if connected to Christianity.

Out went Christmas and Easter. In came winter break and spring break. Coaches of high school teams were ordered to dispense with prayers before games. The coaches complied.

No matter what the majority wanted, the minority prevailed, thanks to a Supreme Court whose dictates were never challenged by democratically elected presidents or Congresses, nor ever defied by a Christian majority.

In the sexual revolution there came first the plea that abortion in extreme cases be decriminalized, then legalized, then subsidized, then declared a right. From crime to constitutional right in two decades!

Under Obamacare, Christian businesses must dispense abortion-inducing morning-after pills to employees.

On gay rights, first came the demand that a bar in Greenwich Village patronized by homosexuals be left alone by the cops.

Next came the demand that homosexuality be decriminalized and then that this, too, be declared a constitutional right. And so it went.

Soon, same-sex marriages will likely be declared a right hidden in the Constitution and entitled to all the privileges and benefits accorded traditional marriages. Next, those who refuse to provide services to same-sex weddings will become the criminals.

Thus does biblical truth become bigotry in Obama’s America.

And the process has been steadily proceeding for generations.

First comes a call for tolerance for those who believe and behave differently. Then comes a plea for acceptance.

Next comes a demand for codifying in law a right to engage in actions formerly regarded as debased or criminal. Finally comes a demand to punish any and all who persist in their public conduct or their private business in defying the new moral order.

And so it goes with revolutions. On the assumption of power, revolutionaries become more intolerant than those they dispossessed.

The French Revolution was many times more terrible than the Bourbon monarchy. The Russian Revolution made the Romanovs look benign. Fidel Castro’s criminality exceeded anything dreamt of by Fulgencio Batista.

Looking back, one appreciates why we hear so often, “This isn’t the country I grew up in.” For it isn’t.

But how did this moral-cultural revolution succeed so easily?

How was it that the Greatest Generation that won World War II let itself be intimidated by and dictated to by nine old men with lifetime tenure who had been elected by no one?

How did this happen in a republic where minority rights exist but the majority rules? Why did Middle America meekly comply and not resist?

By the mid-’50s and early ’60s, black folks were engaged in civil disobedience, refusing to move to the back of the bus, sitting at segregated lunch counters, getting clubbed by cops, and marching for equal access to schools, hotels, motels and voting booths.

And across the South there was resistance to the civil rights revolution: Southern manifestos, governors standing in schoolhouse doors, federal marshals and federal troops called out.

Whatever side of the civil rights revolution one was on, folks on both sides fought for what they believed in.

Amazing. The old segregationists who, morally speaking, held a pair of deuces resisted. But a Christian majority that had the Faith that created Western civilization behind it rolled over and played dead.

Christians watched paralyzed as their country was taken from them.

What explains the rout in Indianapolis? The GOP simply cannot stand up to media denunciations as intolerant bigots, especially if the corporations upon which they depend threaten economic reprisals.

With the Democratic Party irretrievably lost, and the Republican Party moving to neutrality in the culture wars, traditionalists should probably take comfort in the counsel, “Put not your trust in princes.”

When that father and daughter at Memories Pizza in Walkerton, Ind., said their religious beliefs forbade them from catering a same-sex wedding, they were subjected to a hailstorm of hate, but were also showered with $840,000 from folks who admired their moral courage.

Religious folks who do not believe in collaborating with what they think is wrong should go forth and do likewise.

Courage as well as cowardice is contagious.

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IndenturedServant

HHH said:
“who the hell is going to beat Hillary”

I actually think Hildebeast will beat Hildebeast and the next best looking horse in the glue factory will get to be the next puppet in charge.

Sensetti
Sensetti

Some here totally miss read this country. A Febuary 2015 Gallup poll has 70% of Americans supporting Israel, there’s your Bible thumpers boys. Look at this map, last Presidential election, the red areas support conservative values including the bible. After the next Presidential election the map will even turn redder. So now what do you think?
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This country is a very long way from abandoning it Christian roots. After the 2016 election any gains the progressive Liberals have made will be set back in short order. If you doubt my words just look at the trend from the last election. Republicans won by wide margins. Obama’s the best thing that ever happened for Republicans, the gift that just keeps on giving. Everything he touches turns to shit in his hands. For example He has a Rose Garden ceremony for Bo Bergdoll and after the dust settles the dudes gonna be prosecuted and put in jail.

HHH
HHH

Zarathusrea…Yea I’m an idiot…just like Major General Paul Eaton who described Cottons actions like this.

“I would use the word mutinous,” said Eaton, whose long career includes training Iraqi forces from 2003 to 2004. “What Senator Cotton did is a gross breach of discipline, and especially as a veteran of the Army, he should know better,” Eaton told me. “I have no issue with Senator Cotton, or others, voicing their opinion in opposition to any deal to halt Iran’s nuclear progress. Speaking out on these issues is clearly part of his job. But to directly engage a foreign entity, in this way, undermining the strategy and work of our diplomats and our Commander in Chief, strains the very discipline and structure that our foreign relations depend on, to succeed.” The consequences of Cotton’s missive were plainly apparent to Eaton. “The breach of discipline is extremely dangerous, because undermining our diplomatic efforts, at this moment, brings us another step closer to a very costly and perilous war with Iran,” he said.

Sensetti
Sensetti

HHH, Tom Cotton is a leader, for him to step out in front and have 50 Senators fall in line behind him. That’s a leader by anyone’s definition, period.

HHH
HHH

Senstti…you are on crack. This country isn’t getting more conservative…its getting more progressive. And here’s why.

Baby Boomers (folks born from 1946-64) are exerting a progressive pull on American politics:
Baby boomers constitute 32% of the U.S. adult population and, by Gallup’s estimate, 36% of the electorate in 2012, eclipsing all other generational groups.

Baby boomers have dominated U.S. politics on the basis of their sheer numbers since the late 1970s, when most of the group had reached voting age….If the party preferences of each generational group were to hold steady in the coming years as the Democratic-leaning baby boomers gradually replace the more Republican Silent and Greatest generations, the country as a whole would likely become more Democratic.

Thus, over time, high-turnout seniors, currently the most conservative part of the electorate by age, will be liberalized as Baby Boomers age. Moreover, the most liberal part of the generation — those born up through 1955 and termed “early Boomers” — is frontloaded, so the political impact on the senior population could be fairly rapid.

So, the changing location, education levels, and age of the electorate suggest why the Republicans’ long-term disadvantages aren’t so bad as most people think. They’re worse.

HHH
HHH

Sensetii…Leading 50 extreme nut jobs does not a leader make. Talk to me when he become president.

Sensetti
Sensetti

I’ve already posted. There is no fucking deal with Iran, there never was a deal with Iran. More stupid circus maneuvers by Obama and his gaggle of clowns. War with Iran is Imminent, unless they come to heel. Why do I say that? Name one, just one, Oil producing nation that has pushed against the United States that has not been bombed, leaders displaced, with completed destruction rained down upon them. No, it won’t be different this time. Stand back and watch, it’s all being set up as we speak. Jews own the World Banks and somehow people think that’s inconsequential, that thinking is beyond my ability understand. Book it.

HHH
HHH

You are right about one thing. War with Iran will be imminent with Ass Clowns like Tom Cotton running off at the mouth.

Sensetti
Sensetti

One thing is obviously clear here, I have overwhelmingly won this debate. Schools out.

Peace!

Zarathustra

Okay, my opinion is that we should ally with Iran and together wipe Israel off the map. The world would be a much better place.

IndenturedServant

Zara said:
“but lately, in terms of foreign policy with regard to Iran and Cuba, he has emerged as a statesman.”

Pffft! I can’t figure Bammy’s angle on Cuba yet but Iran is merely part of a much larger plan by the US to “partner up” with the holders of the worlds energy resources. This is essential for the coming switch to SDR’s and is why we will be abandoning Europe and have been giving up bases and infrastructure throughout Europe while simultaneously building massive infrastructure all over and around the worlds largest oil producing region. I thunk Cuba might be an opening gesture to ally the USSA with the oil producing countries of South America resource wise.

Stucky

Just when you thought this thread couldn’t get any more retarded, Hubert H Humprey (HHH) and his single-celled brain insure that this thread goes down in TBP history as #1 in Epic Fail Full Retardation.

Bringing Tom Cotton into the discussion as a paradigm of virtue made — for the first time ever– even Satan barf in his mouth.

We are all Dumber for having read the comments in this thread, and woe unto those who have participated … including me … for we will be awarded no points, no cookies, no milk, and an extra 5 years hard labor in FEMA camp, when the time comes for such things.

Billah Jr
Billah Jr

Meeeeeeeegoooooooooo!

Billy
Billy

Stucky,

We are all Dumber for having read the comments in this thread, and woe unto those who have participated … including me … for we will be awarded no points, no cookies, no milk, and an extra 5 years hard labor in FEMA camp, when the time comes for such things.

This.

3H decided to go Full Derp and it just derailed the whole fucking thing… I literally just got up, poured myself some coffee and picked up where I left off last night, and I can’t believe how far this thread has derailed into StupidTown…

Fucksticks like 3H don’t understand that his argument for moral relativism when it comes to the culture war is the same kind of logic fallacy the “Constitution as living document” choadsmacks make… if everyone gets to interpret and reinterpret shit as and when they see fit, and everyone’s interpretation is equally valid (more “Give everyone a trophy” bullshit), then there IS no ‘culture’, being as you’ve got 315 million motherfuckers all not agreeing on the same thing…

Which is just fucking stupid. Echos of “all cultures everywhere in the world are all on equal footing and should be treated as equals”… erm, no, they’re not. And they never will be.

His “why don’t you old fuckers just shut up and die and make way for the rest of us” attitude is repulsive. And while I agree with you that he hasn’t contributed anything of worth to this thread – given the WALL OF TEXT shit he keeps posting (thanks Common Core! Another dipshit who cannot compose a simple paragraph) – the very fact that his attitude is out there and even exists shows us that open conflict is not only possible, but very likely.

We will be stuck with cocksuckers like him until we are enslaved, or they are all dead.

I’m going for #2.

bb

Nickel Thrower , your an idiot .There was a time when homosexual behavior was considered depraved.At this time American culture still had cohesion with Christian principles dominate. Now with Christianity Now longer allowed in the public square the center can not hold and society(culture) comes apart. You are seeing this every where .

I am beginning to think something is seriously wrong with you.You need to get off that Damn sailboat.

EL Coyote calls it quits
EL Coyote calls it quits

Time for this assclown to get the fuck out of Dodge. Adios, motherfuckers.

HHH
HHH

Billy,

Yeap you are stuck with ” cocksuckers like me and you trust me..ass clowns like you WILL be enslaved for being a dumbass”. Welcome to the minority you “douche canoe.” Enjoy the sodomy.

As far as the” logic fallacy of the “Constitution as living document”.

News Flash Dinosaur….the Constitution has been amended 33 god damn times…33 TIMES… to include such “culturally impactful” changes as abolishing slavery and giving women the right to vote.

And and you wanna know what else Grandpa? It will continue to be amended as american culture continues to evolve until eventually common sense will be so loud and deafening….it will drown out dodo birds with one foot in the grave like yourself.

In the meantime, have fun playing “militia man” in your little…”one man” war you little Timothy McVeigh wannabe.

Why don’t you lock yourself in the bunker already and leave the rest of us alone. You are embarrassing yourself.

Billy
Billy

Suck my oily anal discharge and choke on it, you fucking homo…

Not going to bother destroying your pathetic post… not when you can’t even tell the fucking DIFFERENCE between a proper amendment to the Constitution and the “living document” activist doctrine…

Destroying you would be almost unfair… like crushing an ant beneath my bootheel…

No matter. Keep on with your “special snowflake” SJW bullshit… I’m sure the rest of your kind are all impressed with you…

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