WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?

Guest Post by Hardscrabble Farmer in response to aptly named BigStupid’s belief that the ‘haves’ have an obligation to provide money to the ‘have-nots’ as a necessary consequence of living in a society.

 

And I see it exactly the opposite. Now you understand why some people think there is no fix for the current problem. My oldest son is exceptionally bright, well spoken, respectful, and on and on and on. I hear it from strangers, I’ve seen it myself his whole life long. Yesterday he came in after working a 10 hour day so filthy from his labor he looked like a coal miner. He was smiling, and he was happy about his productivity, what he’d accomplished, how he felt about himself and how he had improved the world.

He won’t be going to college in the Fall with the rest of his peers because a) he doesn’t want to incur debt b) he does not possess certain racial/socio-economic traits that would provide him with a scholarship despite his grades. In some ways the bigger loss is the society at large that will never be able to capitalize on the intelligence, drive and decency of this young man because they deliberately pass him over in order to promote someone who is less qualified.

On the flip side he has been earning his own income for several years now, maintains an investment portfolio and earns more than most college graduates. He has zero debt. That people like Big Stupid and the Government in general believes that an individual like my son has an obligation to people like the Baltimore drug dealer simply for the benefit of living in a society that actively works against his interests is patently absurd. I am lucky to have raised children that can see this for themselves and who do everything in their power to disengage from such a maladjusted and morally bankrupt system.

Our present situation is dire on every level; economically, socially, morally. The basic premises of our political system are deeply flawed and built on demonstrable falsehoods. The expectations of the industrious and the good, the moral and the just are to continue to work for the immoral and the lazy, to give away what they’ve earned to the hypocritical and the indolent, to be law abiding in order to promote the criminal, to sweat so that others may live in leisure because “it’s a necessary consequence of living in a society”. No, it isn’t.

And that’s why so many people like myself and our family, good people who are productive, responsible and intelligent have simply abandoned the system in order to preserve those parts of our dying civilization that are worth saving. We too have learned how to game the system by earning just enough to pay our way, but not enough to be compelled to contribute to the system that is actively trying to dispossess us. I expect we are not alone and just like the examples that are set by the youths in places like Baltimore, our youths are setting another kind of example. I suspect that the people who contrast the two will be ale to decide for themselves which represent the future they will choose to move towards.

I try and stay as far away from race issues on the Internet these days as I do IRL because it can be used as such a handy tool to marginalize and demonize anyone who fails to toe the official, socially acceptable party line that we are all equal. Clearly we are not. It is up to each of us to choose which side of that line we fall on and how we navigate the tumultuous rivers of blood that we were promised when we began our descent into collective madness. All ideology aside, each individual must decide for himself where the future will lead and what role we play as we move towards it.

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Homer
Homer

kokoda–“What’s good for GM is good for the USofA”. Hell, we can’t afford to buy anything, it the corps want to sell something they have to sell it to foreign markets. lol

kokoda, the Trans Pacific Partnership treaty like all treaties is becoming the means to overwrite the Constitution and our laws.

Treaties are at the same level as the Constitution in being the law of the land. However, I hold that a treaty cannot be used to subvert the very document that gives birth to the treaty. It is illogical to believe otherwise. The child cannot subvert the authority of the parent.

If parts of the Constitution can be deemed unconstitutional, the same can be said of treaties.

Treaties must be consistent with the Constitution to be valid.

The response of 90% of the people when asked about a Constitution is “What’s a Constitution”?

Llpoh

Great news, Muck! Great news!

Rise Up
Rise Up

Homer says:

Rise Up–How much did I contribute to the Have-Not’s last year???

Let’s see.

One big screen tv,—————value $800

Four tailored suits—————value $4,000

Two new laptop Computers–value $1600

A rifle——————————–value $300

Cash——————————–value $200

I think that is about $6900

That was what was taken in the burglary.
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In other words, involuntary charity….sorry for your loss.

poorus
poorus

It is clear if you study the economics of America and the world we are in a major debt situation trying to fund the warfare/welfare states. Throw in an increasing number of non-productive people to put the icing on the cake. Something big is going to come out of all that. However, what concerns me even more is the nature of our political self. if you look at the 2010, 2012, and 2014 elections it is pretty clear what people are voting for. There is a trend toward voting republican – little r – and now we see Cruz,, Rubio, Paul, and there will be more. I do not know if they can be elected. I do not know what they will do if they are elected. What concerns me is based on the recent elections and the outcome from the elections that voting doesn’t matter any more. Just look what the Republican congress has been doing – both houses. It is busted and indicates that the people of America have lost control of their government. I believe this to be a major fundamental problem confronting us as a nation. We could fix a lot of the problems we face if our elected politicians actually represented the will of the people they were elected by. Some do, but many do not. This is a very serious situation. The thinking people of America need to ponder this problem. I do not see an obvious solution.

Mike Moskos
Mike Moskos

Most of what hardscrapple is complaining about is the result of everything becoming too big; “welfare” needs–like most everything else–needs to be handled by the smallest form of government, probably the city you live in. And personally, I’d limit city government to no more than 10,000 people so there can be some semblence of representative government.

I suspect hardscrapple lives in a small town, probably under 500 people. In that environment, you can handle things differently. You can pretty much guarantee 100% employment, not as “charity” but simply to ensure your town/city doesn’t turn to crap in a generation. The locals simply move their investment money away from Wall Street and invest in local businesses–established or new.

But America’s land is mostly owned by absentee owners who really don’t care. In a small town, you can care and make it better (without government involvement).

Sensetti
Sensetti

HS says: We too have learned how to game the system by earning just enough to pay our way, but not enough to be compelled to contribute to the system that is actively trying to dispossess us.

HS I don’t know about your son but if he’s anything like his father he has no worries. As to what I copied above of your writing, I’ve been working on that very thing! I had to pay a wad of taxes the last two years and I’m asking myself what in the hell am I doing. I have very little debt an no student loan debt at all, so Iam weighing my options and considering a change of direction. I’m sure many hard working individual’s are in the same boat. The free shit army is going to be in trouble when the worker bees lay down.

flash
flash

the winning side?

nice graph of historical winners versus losers.

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flash
flash

you really don;t have to choose, your choice was made for you by the intolerant of alternatives, the all seeing and knowing state.

About the Griping in the Manosphere

the state doesn’t want (and shouldn’t want) a competing culture to emerge within its own territory, the people in the alternative men’s media who succeed the most tend to be the ones who encourage men to coordinate to become better parasites on the shuddering carcass of what was good ol’ Western Civ.

They create a bandit culture which praises excellence in banditry. Which would make sense, because we’re in conditions which are conducive to banditry as a strategy.

Parasitism is adaptive, however, until it isn’t. Americans tend to believe that ‘economics is cyclical,’ believing in narratives of ‘stock market recoveries’ which exceed every downturn. But civilizations and economies more often go through profound phase changes which aren’t cyclical at all. The ‘business cycle’ can be more like a one-way ratchet of dysfunction, and the same goes for the other social phenomena.

Without religious consolation, Americans instead have psychological consolation: they believe things like “everything happens for a reason,” “it will all turn out OK,” “I’m OK / You’re OK,” “there’s someone out there for everyone,” “It gets better,” “50 is the new 30,” and a whole lot of other gibberish that acts to ease the pain of existence.

Actually, it’s not going to be OK, most of you aren’t going to make it, it’ll all be terribly unfair, the new 50 is probably worse than the old 50, and you squandered your opportunities in your 20s, and few people even like you, much less love you. Also, you’re going to become old, die, and you’re probably not going to a good place, either, after that’s done with.

Much of the griping in the manosphere is an attempt to gain consolation for individual despair by spreading despair to others as well. The justification sometimes goes that if everyone is demoralized enough together, something positive will happen. The only thing that results in that is that people just come together in their misery — feeling less alone in their individual unhappiness, but doing little to resolve anything.

At some point, Westerners will have to start recognizing that there’s less of a ‘we’ in this than we’re accustomed to thinking. Many Western countries aren’t going to make it. Many regions aren’t going to make it. Many religious groups aren’t going to make it. For small groups of men to solve problems, the problem space has to be shrunk down to a manageable level. Fixing the US isn’t possible; salvaging a portion of it is.

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