“It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of the problem. Why do you think Apple and Google are doing this? It’s because the public is demanding it. People like me: privacy advocates. A public does not want an out-of-control surveillance state. It is the public that is asking for this. Apple and Google didn’t do this because they thought they would make less money. This is a private sector response to government overreach.
Then you make another statement that somehow these companies are not credible because they collect private data. Here’s the difference: Apple and Google don’t have coercive power. District attorneys do, the FBI does, the NSA does, and to me it’s very simple to draw a privacy balance when it comes to law enforcement and privacy: just follow the damn Constitution.
And because the NSA didn’t do that and other law enforcement agencies didn’t do that, you’re seeing a vast public reaction to this. Because the NSA, your colleagues, have essentially violated the Fourth Amendment rights of every American citizen for years by seizing all of our phone records, by collecting our Internet traffic, that is now spilling over to other aspects of law enforcement. And if you want to get this fixed, I suggest you write to NSA: the FBI should tell the NSA, stop violating our rights. And then maybe you might have much more of the public on the side of supporting what law enforcement is asking for.
Then let me just conclude by saying I do agree with law enforcement that we live in a dangerous world. And that’s why our founders put in the Constitution of the United States—that’s why they put in the Fourth Amendment. Because they understand that an Orwellian overreaching federal government is one of the most dangerous things that this world can have. I yield back.”
Rep. Ted Lieu
Glad to see someone (anyone!) pushing back against this illegal eves-dropping. Problem is, even if section 215 or the entire P-act sunsets, who is to say they won’t just keep doing it? Before Snowden they denied it too. When he brought all this to light I thought there might be action, instead crickets. Far as I’m concerned the neo-cons can shove that patriot act straight up their asses.
We just found our next President!
It’s usually a very simple task for me to find something to “hate on” a Democrat like Mr. Lieu, I simply can’t. However during my brief search I found an interesting tid bit. While Mr Lieu was away from his residence some dickhead called the cops stating they were Ted Lieu and he had just shot his wife. SWAT TEAM surrounded his house, his wife came out with her hands up and surrendered.
http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20130419/sen-ted-lieu-author-of-anti-swatting-bill-becomes-a-swatting-victim
Well done Mr. Lieu. I have addressed you as Mr. Twice and spelled Democrati correctly once. Huge Fucking step for me!
G*d Fucking damn democrat does not have an i tacked on da tail.
Dr. BEN CARSON for President.
Rep.TED LIEU for Vice-President….
Oh, I’m. sorry, I must have nodded off and commented while I was dreaming.
I really meant to commend THE MRS. (Hillary Rodham Clinton) for President or THE BUSH CLAN MAN – old what’s his name?
In these parlous times when the revanchist Russians and the cunning Chinese threaten democracy, our allies, and our very existence, we need leadership by the Best and their Brightest advisors. Vote for… oh, you know who… the ones our leaders and mass media tell you to vote for.
98% of this slate of candidates could be beat by a Yellow Dog.
Jackson….it is far-fetched to think we have a democracy.
“We just found our next President!”
—-Winston, referring to Ted Lieu
“Dr. BEN CARSON for President.
Rep.TED LIEU for Vice-President….”
—-Jackson
Might want to rethink that, you two. Ted Lieu was born in Taiwan.
By all accounts, Carson is sincere and uncorrupted. In terms of foreign policy, his stated positions are extremely vague. In today’s gop, he would have no chance to get the nomination, nor any funds from major donors unless he fellates the neocons.
Mr. Lieu will soon be come the center of a career crushing scandal, or have accident, or be labeled a loony bin conspiracy theorist, or demonstrated to be on the terrorists side, or pulled into a private meeting to be told how to put his pants on and a multitude of possible reasons he might want to dress their way.
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So Why Are You Still In Your Chair, Americans?
By Karl Denninger
What if you discovered that Presidents Bush and Obama have both intentionally, willfully and with malice violated the law by authorizing mass spying on Americans that was never authorized by any law passed by Congress, and representations to the contrary were a lie?
Well, that’s what happened.
May 7, 2015 A federal appeals court ruled on Thursday that the National Security Agency’s bulk collection of U.S. phone records is illegal, dealing a startling blow to the program just as Congress is weighing reforms to surveillance authorities.
A three-judge panel of the 2nd Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals deemed that dragnet collection of American call data does not constitute information relevant to terrorism investigations under Section 215 of the Patriot Act.
The controversial program, exposed publicly nearly two years ago by Edward Snowden, “exceeds the scope of what Congress has authorized,” Judge Gerard Lynch wrote in his decision.
In other words Section 215 never authorized any such mass-collection of data on Americans.
Why is it that everyone involved in this crap up and down the line, including those at the NSA, are not under federal indictment right now as a result?
Why aren’t you demanding that?
Do we still have a Constitution and The Rule of Law — or not?
Your actions in the coming days and weeks decide that latter question.
Sooo, this Lieu guy is a Dem??
I think I’m having an “aortic infarction”… which my son tells me is “a brain-heart-attack”…. I think it’s a pop culture reference, but it went past me…
This is what a “brain-heart-attack” looks like… I think.
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