“Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give to an American.”
“What is right is not always the same as what is legal.”
“I’m neither traitor nor hero. I’m an American.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:00 pm
“Further, it’s important to bear in mind I’m being called a traitor by men like former Vice President Dick Cheney. This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead. Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein, and King, the better off we all are. If they had taught a class on how to be the kind of citizen Dick Cheney worries about, I would have finished high school.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:00 pm
“…I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.”
“Under observation, we act less free, which means we effectively are less free.”
“If we can’t understand the policies and the programs of our government, we cannot grant our consent.”
“I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:01 pm
“I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under.”
“I had been looking for leaders, but I realized that leadership is about being the first to act.”
“We have an executive […] who will stop at nothing to persecute someone who told them the truth.”
“With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your e-mails or your wife’s phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your e-mails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:02 pm
“Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re being watched and recorded. …it’s getting to the point where you don’t have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you’ve ever made, every friend you’ve ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:02 pm
“The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. [People] won’t be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things… And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it’s only going to get worse. [The NSA will] say that… because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:03 pm
“These programs don’t make us more safe. They hurt our economy. They hurt our country. They limit our ability to speak, think, live, and be creative.”
“So many of the things we’re told by the government simply aren’t true.”
“The definition of a security state is one that prioritizes security over all other considerations.”
“The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:04 pm
“To do that, the NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that’s the easiest, most efficient and most valuable way to achieve these ends. So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government, or someone that they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting YOUR communications to do so.”
“…I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents.”
“The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:05 pm
“The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything.”
“Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere… I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President…”
“I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinized most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.”
“Allowing the U.S. government to intimidate its people with threats of retaliation for revealing wrongdoing is contrary to the public interest.”
Ed Snowden
Administrator
Author
May 13, 2015 9:06 pm
“Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten — and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state.”
“I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end.”
“I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant.”
“You can’t come up against the world’s most powerful intelligence agencies and not accept the risk.”
“I know the media likes to personalize political debates, and I know the government will demonize me.”
“I do not expect to see home again.”
Ed Snowden
SSS
May 13, 2015 9:30 pm
Funny Admin should post this. Here is my reply this afternoon to an email someone sent me about Snowden.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX,
My “first informed opinion,” as you put it is …… Snowden is neither a hero nor a traitor. I have never once used either word to describe Snowden. He did break the law and is being formally charged under the Espionage Act and could be sentenced up to 30 years to life in prison. That’s ridiculous because he did the entire country a great service by exposing the NSA’s egregious violations of the Constitution’s 4th Amendment.
Snowden is better off staying in Russia. That is probably his best punishment. If he returns to the U.S., he will be arrested, bail will be denied, and he will spend YEARS in prison before he ever sees the inside of a courtroom while prosecutors and defense attorneys argue over every little, nit-picking detail on how to proceed with a “fair and speedy trial.” It took Colorado almost 3 years to get mass murderer James Holmes into a courtroom, and that’s an open and shut case. How long do you think it will take for the feds to try Snowden?
BTW, soon after Snowden skipped town in 2013, the press revealed that Snowden donated $500 to Ron Paul’s 2012 presidential campaign and had “voted for a third party” in the election. Good decision, as I did the same thing. Paul has repeatedly called for clemency for Snowden. Another good call, with which I agree.
The link to this documentary was sent to me by a recent college graduate who still has a Ron Paul for President magnet on his CRV.
AC
May 13, 2015 10:25 pm
It’s a shame there is nothing we can do to stop this criminal conduct by the ‘government’. A real shame.
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Westcoaster
May 13, 2015 10:49 pm
I saw it when it first hit La Jolla Landmark. Great, historic documentary. Snowden’s a hero. Thanks for posting his quotes, Admin.
robert h siddell jr
May 14, 2015 12:06 am
NSA (the American “KGB”) et all is about TPTB achieving total power (Dictatorship) over the world (if they can) and financial gain. It has virtually nothing to do with Security. Thank you TBP.
DRUD
May 14, 2015 11:03 am
Watched this on HBO shortly after I happened to catch it being awarded the Oscar for Best Documentary…I had not heard of it before then and it was literally the only segment of the Oscars I watched. Anyway…
Not only does it affirm and even raise my estimation of Snowden as a hero, but also reveals both Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald as the same.
Administrator
Author
May 14, 2015 2:38 pm
Only 140 of you monkeys have clicked on the link to watch this brilliant and infuriating documentary. Are you too busy watching the Kardashians to take two hours out of your busy lives to learn how your government is treating you like the enemy? The NSA hates your guts and will destroy you if you dare question your government keepers.
Send this link to your entire email address book. Maybe a few more people will wake up.
Brian
May 14, 2015 2:50 pm
Saw it months ago via other means. Did you get a chance to see this?
Watched it a month ago … Verizon On Demand … free at the time. Great movie. Snowden is truly a Patriot.
Bea Lever
May 14, 2015 3:25 pm
Most of us curs are not related to famous people….but some people are related to a butt load of famous people. What are the odds? Actors and high level politicians are all related to the same famous people.
Vimeo (VOD) says “the Forecaster” is gone – do you have another venue to recommend?
Brian
May 14, 2015 4:12 pm
Olga, looks like the showing on vimeo is over with. That’s too bad, good movie. Scary, as it shows how bad the whole system really is. I think they are going to release it on DVD this fall. I would image it could be out there on some darker sites for viewing but that is a user beware kind of thing.
Bea Lever
May 14, 2015 7:15 pm
Jebus….the link in my 3:25 post did not work. If you care to look, Snowden has a pedigree as long as your arm……not just some average schmuck.
Famouskin.com
Select- Infamous
Scroll down and select Edward Snowden
SSS
May 14, 2015 8:51 pm
“Only 140 of you monkeys have clicked on the link to watch this brilliant and infuriating documentary. Are you too busy watching the Kardashians to take two hours out of your busy lives to learn how your government is treating you like the enemy?”
—-Admin
I don’t need to watch the fucking documentary, Admin. I was there. I was on the inside looking out. I knew the genesis (Stellar Wind) of what NSA was doing, as I have said here before, and walked away from participation. I retired shortly thereafter.
I don’t need a documentary to remind me of witnessing “Alien” at its birth.
Maybe you should watch it to witness the bravest Millennial on the planet.
Olga
May 14, 2015 9:30 pm
I saw it at a beer-drinking theater months ago.
Rise Up
May 15, 2015 8:05 am
@SSS ” It took Colorado almost 3 years to get mass murderer James Holmes into a courtroom, and that’s an open and shut case. ”
Please tell us, SSS, how is it that you know, with full details, exactly what happened in Aurora, Colorado that makes that an “open and shut case”. (You can’t, because you DON’T know. You only have scant information that the mainstream media has reported.)
Rise Up
May 15, 2015 8:10 am
It should not be a crime to disclose information on unconstitutional policies and practices by the government. The masters of deception who put those policies in place should go to prison, not Snowden.
Bea Lever
May 15, 2015 9:04 am
Rise Up
Don’t you just love it when people watch Fox news and believe that shit they spew as “real”?
I guess they believed that Greenberg actor next to Holmes in court was really his lawyer. That was a false flag chock full of crisis actors.
SSS
May 15, 2015 2:30 pm
Please tell us, SSS, how is it that you know, with full details, exactly what happened in Aurora, Colorado that makes that an “open and shut case”.
—-Rise Up
On July 20, 2012, a mass shooting occurred inside of a Century movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, during a midnight screening of the film The Dark Knight Rises. A gunman, dressed in tactical clothing, set off tear gas grenades and shot into the audience with multiple firearms, killing 12 people and injuring 70 others. The sole suspect, James Eagan Holmes, was arrested in his car parked outside the cinema minutes later. Holmes has admitted to being the shooter.
Bea Lever
May 15, 2015 2:44 pm
And in other news………. The USA!USA!USA! killed Bin Laden who had been dead for ten years…………but it made Oreo look good for a while.
Don’t believe every false flag on the TV, they are a dime a dozen…..like Aurora.
“Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give to an American.”
“What is right is not always the same as what is legal.”
“I’m neither traitor nor hero. I’m an American.”
Ed Snowden
“Further, it’s important to bear in mind I’m being called a traitor by men like former Vice President Dick Cheney. This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead. Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein, and King, the better off we all are. If they had taught a class on how to be the kind of citizen Dick Cheney worries about, I would have finished high school.”
Ed Snowden
“…I can’t in good conscience allow the US government to destroy privacy, internet freedom and basic liberties for people around the world with this massive surveillance machine they’re secretly building.”
“Under observation, we act less free, which means we effectively are less free.”
“If we can’t understand the policies and the programs of our government, we cannot grant our consent.”
“I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents.”
Ed Snowden
“I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under.”
“I had been looking for leaders, but I realized that leadership is about being the first to act.”
“We have an executive […] who will stop at nothing to persecute someone who told them the truth.”
“With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your e-mails or your wife’s phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your e-mails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.”
Ed Snowden
“Even if you’re not doing anything wrong, you’re being watched and recorded. …it’s getting to the point where you don’t have to have done anything wrong, you simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use this system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you’ve ever made, every friend you’ve ever discussed something with, and attack you on that basis, to sort of derive suspicion from an innocent life.”
Ed Snowden
“The great fear that I have regarding the outcome for America of these disclosures is that nothing will change. [People] won’t be willing to take the risks necessary to stand up and fight to change things… And in the months ahead, the years ahead, it’s only going to get worse. [The NSA will] say that… because of the crisis, the dangers that we face in the world, some new and unpredicted threat, we need more authority, we need more power, and there will be nothing the people can do at that point to oppose it. And it will be turnkey tyranny.”
Ed Snowden
“These programs don’t make us more safe. They hurt our economy. They hurt our country. They limit our ability to speak, think, live, and be creative.”
“So many of the things we’re told by the government simply aren’t true.”
“The definition of a security state is one that prioritizes security over all other considerations.”
“The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to.”
Ed Snowden
“To do that, the NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and it filters them and it analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that’s the easiest, most efficient and most valuable way to achieve these ends. So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government, or someone that they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting YOUR communications to do so.”
“…I believe that at this point in history, the greatest danger to our freedom and way of life comes from the reasonable fear of omniscient State powers kept in check by nothing more than policy documents.”
“The government has granted itself power it is not entitled to. There is no public oversight. The result is people like myself have the latitude to go further than they are allowed to.”
Ed Snowden
“The NSA has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything.”
“Any analyst at any time can target anyone. Any selector, anywhere… I, sitting at my desk, certainly had the authorities to wiretap anyone, from you or your accountant, to a federal judge, to even the President…”
“I believe that when [senator Ron] Wyden and [senator Mark] Udall asked about the scale of this, they [the NSA] said it did not have the tools to provide an answer. We do have the tools and I have maps showing where people have been scrutinized most. We collect more digital communications from America than we do from the Russians.”
“Allowing the U.S. government to intimidate its people with threats of retaliation for revealing wrongdoing is contrary to the public interest.”
Ed Snowden
“Everyone everywhere now understands how bad things have gotten — and they’re talking about it. They have the power to decide for themselves whether they are willing to sacrifice their privacy to the surveillance state.”
“I understand that I will be made to suffer for my actions, and that the return of this information to the public marks my end.”
“I will be satisfied if the federation of secret law, unequal pardon and irresistible executive powers that rule the world that I love are revealed even for an instant.”
“You can’t come up against the world’s most powerful intelligence agencies and not accept the risk.”
“I know the media likes to personalize political debates, and I know the government will demonize me.”
“I do not expect to see home again.”
Ed Snowden
Funny Admin should post this. Here is my reply this afternoon to an email someone sent me about Snowden.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXX,
My “first informed opinion,” as you put it is …… Snowden is neither a hero nor a traitor. I have never once used either word to describe Snowden. He did break the law and is being formally charged under the Espionage Act and could be sentenced up to 30 years to life in prison. That’s ridiculous because he did the entire country a great service by exposing the NSA’s egregious violations of the Constitution’s 4th Amendment.
Snowden is better off staying in Russia. That is probably his best punishment. If he returns to the U.S., he will be arrested, bail will be denied, and he will spend YEARS in prison before he ever sees the inside of a courtroom while prosecutors and defense attorneys argue over every little, nit-picking detail on how to proceed with a “fair and speedy trial.” It took Colorado almost 3 years to get mass murderer James Holmes into a courtroom, and that’s an open and shut case. How long do you think it will take for the feds to try Snowden?
BTW, soon after Snowden skipped town in 2013, the press revealed that Snowden donated $500 to Ron Paul’s 2012 presidential campaign and had “voted for a third party” in the election. Good decision, as I did the same thing. Paul has repeatedly called for clemency for Snowden. Another good call, with which I agree.
SSS
The link to this documentary was sent to me by a recent college graduate who still has a Ron Paul for President magnet on his CRV.
It’s a shame there is nothing we can do to stop this criminal conduct by the ‘government’. A real shame.
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I saw it when it first hit La Jolla Landmark. Great, historic documentary. Snowden’s a hero. Thanks for posting his quotes, Admin.
NSA (the American “KGB”) et all is about TPTB achieving total power (Dictatorship) over the world (if they can) and financial gain. It has virtually nothing to do with Security. Thank you TBP.
Watched this on HBO shortly after I happened to catch it being awarded the Oscar for Best Documentary…I had not heard of it before then and it was literally the only segment of the Oscars I watched. Anyway…
Not only does it affirm and even raise my estimation of Snowden as a hero, but also reveals both Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald as the same.
Only 140 of you monkeys have clicked on the link to watch this brilliant and infuriating documentary. Are you too busy watching the Kardashians to take two hours out of your busy lives to learn how your government is treating you like the enemy? The NSA hates your guts and will destroy you if you dare question your government keepers.
Send this link to your entire email address book. Maybe a few more people will wake up.
Saw it months ago via other means. Did you get a chance to see this?
Watched it a month ago … Verizon On Demand … free at the time. Great movie. Snowden is truly a Patriot.
Most of us curs are not related to famous people….but some people are related to a butt load of famous people. What are the odds? Actors and high level politicians are all related to the same famous people.
famouskin.com/famous_kin_menu.php?name=20679+edward+snowden
@ Brian
Vimeo (VOD) says “the Forecaster” is gone – do you have another venue to recommend?
Olga, looks like the showing on vimeo is over with. That’s too bad, good movie. Scary, as it shows how bad the whole system really is. I think they are going to release it on DVD this fall. I would image it could be out there on some darker sites for viewing but that is a user beware kind of thing.
Jebus….the link in my 3:25 post did not work. If you care to look, Snowden has a pedigree as long as your arm……not just some average schmuck.
Famouskin.com
Select- Infamous
Scroll down and select Edward Snowden
“Only 140 of you monkeys have clicked on the link to watch this brilliant and infuriating documentary. Are you too busy watching the Kardashians to take two hours out of your busy lives to learn how your government is treating you like the enemy?”
—-Admin
I don’t need to watch the fucking documentary, Admin. I was there. I was on the inside looking out. I knew the genesis (Stellar Wind) of what NSA was doing, as I have said here before, and walked away from participation. I retired shortly thereafter.
I don’t need a documentary to remind me of witnessing “Alien” at its birth.
SSS
Maybe you should watch it to witness the bravest Millennial on the planet.
I saw it at a beer-drinking theater months ago.
@SSS ” It took Colorado almost 3 years to get mass murderer James Holmes into a courtroom, and that’s an open and shut case. ”
Please tell us, SSS, how is it that you know, with full details, exactly what happened in Aurora, Colorado that makes that an “open and shut case”. (You can’t, because you DON’T know. You only have scant information that the mainstream media has reported.)
It should not be a crime to disclose information on unconstitutional policies and practices by the government. The masters of deception who put those policies in place should go to prison, not Snowden.
Rise Up
Don’t you just love it when people watch Fox news and believe that shit they spew as “real”?
I guess they believed that Greenberg actor next to Holmes in court was really his lawyer. That was a false flag chock full of crisis actors.
Please tell us, SSS, how is it that you know, with full details, exactly what happened in Aurora, Colorado that makes that an “open and shut case”.
—-Rise Up
On July 20, 2012, a mass shooting occurred inside of a Century movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, during a midnight screening of the film The Dark Knight Rises. A gunman, dressed in tactical clothing, set off tear gas grenades and shot into the audience with multiple firearms, killing 12 people and injuring 70 others. The sole suspect, James Eagan Holmes, was arrested in his car parked outside the cinema minutes later. Holmes has admitted to being the shooter.
And in other news………. The USA!USA!USA! killed Bin Laden who had been dead for ten years…………but it made Oreo look good for a while.
Don’t believe every false flag on the TV, they are a dime a dozen…..like Aurora.