“US Debt Is 3 Times More Than You Think” Former Chief US Accountant Warns, Americans “Have Lost Touch With Reality”

The name of this website comes from a David Walker quote.

“The US government is on a “burning platform” of unsustainable policies and practices with fiscal deficits, chronic healthcare underfunding, immigration and overseas military commitments threatening a crisis if action is not taken soon.

There are striking similarities between America’s current situation and the factors that brought down Rome, including declining moral values and political civility at home, an over-confident and over-extended military in foreign lands and fiscal irresponsibility by the central government. The fiscal imbalance meant the US was on a path toward an explosion of debt.

With the looming retirement of baby boomers, spiraling healthcare costs, plummeting savings rates and increasing reliance on foreign lenders, we face unprecedented fiscal risks. Current US policy on education, energy, the environment, immigration and Iraq also was on an unsustainable path. Our very prosperity is placing greater demands on our physical infrastructure. Billions of dollars will be needed to modernize everything from highways and airports to water and sewage systems.” David Walker – 2007

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In a shocking admission for most of mainstream America, the former U.S. comptroller general says the real U.S. debt is closer to about $65 trillion than the oft-cited figure of $18 trillion, thanks to unfunded liabilities which simply cannot be ignored. As The Hill reports, unless economic growth accelerates, he warns, “you’re not going to be able to provide the kind of social safety net that we need in this country,” adding unequivocially that Americans have “lost touch with reality” when it comes to spending.

As The Hill reports,

Dave Walker, who headed the Government Accountability Office (GAO) under Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, said when you add up all of the nation’s unfunded liabilities, the national debt is more than three times the number generally advertised.

 

“If you end up adding to that $18.5 trillion the unfunded civilian and military pensions and retiree healthcare, the additional underfunding for Social Security, the additional underfunding for Medicare, various commitments and contingencies that the federal government has, the real number is about $65 trillion rather than $18 trillion, and it’s growing automatically absent reforms,” Walker told host John Catsimatidis on “The Cats Roundtable” on New York’s AM-970 in an interview airing Sunday.

 

The former comptroller general, who is in charge of ensuring federal spending is fiscally responsible, said a burgeoning national debt hampers the ability of government to carry out both domestic and foreign policy initiatives.

 

“If you don’t keep your economy strong, and that means to be able to generate more jobs and opportunities, you’re not going to be strong internationally with regard to foreign policy, you’re not going to be able to invest what you need to invest in national defense and homeland security, and ultimately you’re not going to be able to provide the kind of social safety net that we need in this country,” he said.

 

He said Americans have “lost touch with reality” when it comes to spending.

 

Walker called for Democrats and Republicans to put aside partisan politics to come together to fix the problem.

 

“You can be a Democrat, you can be a Republican, you can be unaffiliated, you can be whatever you want, but your duty of loyalty needs to be to country rather than to party, and we need to solve some of the large, known, and growing problems that we have,” he said.

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Of course, that is to say nothing of the other unfunded liability – America’s Pension Ponzi, as we detailed previously...

Just how big of a problem is this you ask? Well, pretty big, according to Moody’s which, as we noted last month, contends that the largest 25 public pensions are underfunded by some $2 trillion

It’s against that backdrop that we present the following graphic and color from Goldman which together demonstrate the amount by which state and local governments would need to raise contributions to “bring plans into balance over time.”

From Goldman:

Unfunded pension liabilities have grown substantially. There are several factors behind this, led by lower than expected investment returns and insufficient contributions from state and local governments to the plans. The two issues are related. The assumed investment return is used as a discount rate to determine the present value of liabilities. The higher the discount rate, the lower the estimated liability, and the lower the periodic payment into the fund a state or local employer is expected to make. There is, of course, no clear answer about what the discount rate ought to be, though the fact that the average assumption used by private plans has continuously declined for more than a decade suggests that the rates have probably been too high and that the current average assumption of 7.7% may come down further.

 

Contributions have also generally been lower than necessary to stabilize or reduce unfunded liabilities because of the rules around how those unfunded liabilities are amortized. Payments into pension plans are generally meant to account for the future cost of benefits accrued during the current year, as well as catch-up payments equal to some fraction of the unfunded liability left from prior years. Many plans target payment amounts that would work off this underfunding over 30 years, though some use shorter periods. However, the amounts of these payments are often backloaded, with the result that even if the “required” payment is made in full the unfunded liability often grows.

 

A separate but related issue is that some states have simply declined to make even the “required” contribution, which is probably lower than it should be in any case due to the factors just noted. For example, over the last few years New Jersey has made on average only around 40% of the expected payment. New accounting rules promulgated by the Government Accounting Standards Board (GASB) will penalize underfunded plans with a lower discount rate, but the change is fairly minor and, in any case, affects only the accounting; it will not impose any new legal requirements to make the contributions.

 

If state and local governments are ultimately forced to devote more resources to these obligations, the effect on state and local spending would be noticeable. Exhibit 8 shows the states’ pension contributions, as a share of gross state product, with two potential additions. The first is the level that would be required to simply meet the “actuarially required contribution.” To bring the plans back into balance over time, further contributions would be necessary. In aggregate this would raise government pension contributions by something like $100bn per year (0.6% of GDP), lowering spending in other areas (or raising taxes) by a similar amount. In theory, OPEB costs could push this adjustment a bit higher.

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Overthecliff
Overthecliff
November 8, 2015 12:21 pm

The author is giving credit to us Free Shit Americans we don’t deserve. We know the free shit will crash the system. We just don’t care as long as the free shit window is still open when we get there. We deserve what we are going to get. It’s karma like Greg Hardy’s nigger fucking ho girlfriend.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 8, 2015 12:39 pm

The debt is unpayable.

If it weren’t we couldn’t pay it anyway since there would be no money left in circulation after it was paid.

Our money is issued as interest bearing debt by fiat decree and returns to non existence after it is payed the same way it was nonexistent before it was issued.

underfire
underfire
November 8, 2015 12:40 pm

Agree with Overthecliff, For the ptb at this point, it’s all about keeping the charade going as long as possible. Considering the brain dead population of this country, we passed the point of no return years ago.

Bourbon Pete
Bourbon Pete
November 8, 2015 1:21 pm

I’ve been yelling about our debt for 15 years. Apparently debt doesn’t matter nobody cares so why should I . This idiocy might continue for another hundred years. The fucking libtard left has won and has taken control of the govt, the economy, media, money, morality, and the hive mind of the Murican morons. So what if debt is 65 trillion. Watch it go to 100 trillion and nothing will happen. 1 quadrillion. So what? Just abstract numbers with nothing to back them up.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
November 8, 2015 2:00 pm

Pete’s analysis of the American character is spot on. I don’t know about his economics. Those kinds of numbers are way above my pay grade.

underfire
underfire
November 8, 2015 2:24 pm

What a fantastic commentary on the American state. We’re flirting with total collapse, nobody cares. How profound that such a great country built on the hard work and sacrifice of so many has just given it away like it was nothing.

This has every chance of deteriorating into something mind numbingly bad, at any time, and there’s just a scant few that care. Unbelievable.

starfcker
starfcker
November 8, 2015 4:41 pm

Trump keeps rolling out his position papers (4 so far). The two that are coming that I am most interested in are trade and spending cuts. If you don’t think these things can make an enormous difference, let me give you one example.

starfcker
starfcker
November 8, 2015 4:46 pm

Here in florida, under governors bush and christ, the water management districts got totally out of control. New governor rick scott slashed their budget by a third, and they came to heel real quick. Gone was all the business and prosperity destroying bullshit they had come to think was their mission. They are now basically irrelevant, except for their core mission, managing water for the benefit of Florida. Great job, mr. Scott

OldeVirginian
OldeVirginian
November 8, 2015 6:48 pm

Christ was governor of FL?

Lysander
Lysander
November 8, 2015 8:51 pm

@ OldeVirginian…….The Savior gets around.

Lysander
Lysander
November 8, 2015 9:06 pm

Every time I read an article like this I hear keywords and phrases like “unsustainable”, “past the point of no return”, “debt is triple what’s advertised”, “government is hopelessly captured by the lunatic left”, and other such things. I’m not criticizing this particular article-It think it’s great, btw.

Then I read about how ‘we’ need leadership who will enact the needed ‘reforms’ to stop this downward spiral. What? What the hell are they all talking about? It’s Armageddon coming at us in technicolor, but it can be averted by passing a new rule or ‘tightening our belts’?

Can somebody please tell me what these smart guys are inferring? A 90% tax rate? The ending of all social services? Do they think this is doable and will just fix everything up in a jiffy? Or are they just saying shit like that so they can later proclaim “I called it!, just lookee right there”?

I don’t want anything fixed. I don’t want to save the same system that has screwed us all (except the rich). I want to see it burn.