The VW “Fix” Just Got a Lot More Expensive

Better hide your diesel VW.red barchetta pic

Turns out that some of the “affected” models will require more than just a quick, easy (and free) software adjustment to placate Uncle.

Actually, it is most of them.

Of the 482,000 diesel-engined VWs identified (so far) for the High Crime of end-running Uncle, 325,000 of them may require physical alterations; that is re-engineering of their hardware. Specifically, they will probably have to be retrofitted with urea injection – a “feature” VW diesels up through the 2014 model year uniquely lacked – and which was probably among the reasons why people chose to buy a VW diesel.

More on that in a moment.

Urea injection is a chemical (catalytic) exhaust treatment that sprays a fluid – urea – into the exhaust stream. This alters the composition of the resultant gasses issuing from the tailpipe, making Uncle happy. It has become unavoidable to have this system, in order to placate Uncle. Every diesel-powered passenger car sold in the U.S. now has it – including all new VW diesels.adblue 2

But it requires a secondary tank (in addition to the fuel tank)  to store the urea – a couple gallons of the stuff, typically – and all the plumbing to get the urea into the exhaust. Plus the electronics to control the operation.

A retrofit will therefore entail costly physical as well as software modifications to the vehicle.

Probably a couple thousand dollars’ worth of parts and labor for each “affected” car. Holes will need to be drilled, cuts made in the car’s sheetmetal, to accommodate the urea tank, the filler neck and so on. The exhaust system will have to be altered, perhaps wholly or partially replaced.

It will also be necessary for the car’s owners to buy urea – commonly marketed as AdBlue or just Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF) for the life of the car. VW will probably have to subsidize this for as long as each car remains in service – even if that’s for the next 30 years – as the people who bought the cars arguably did so at least in part because they thought they were buying a car that did not require periodic urea refills.adblue pic

Surprise!

You can see that is serious – and seriously expensive – business.

When the owners of the “affected” vehicles find out, they may revolt. May demand that VW simply buy their cars back, at full sticker – plus something extra for the hassle.

Which they are likely to get. 

Because this mess differs from the usual recall, in which a component, a design (or even the car itself) turns out to be defective. That can be attributed to someone dropping the proverbial ball, or unforeseen consequences, even poor workmanship. But VW is accused of what amounts to a willful, deliberate fraud. Of knowingly selling people cars that were – in the eyes of Uncle – “polluters.”

The company has in fact admitted to doing exactly that.

Did you just hear something?

It’s the sound of the mortician tape-measuring VW for a casket. Or maybe it’s the sound of lawyers beating feet to file their papers down at the courthouse.funeral director

Now, it’s true that VW meant well – a stark contrast to the usual recall scenario involving a cheap-out of some kind, typically.

Volkswagen meant to sell people diesel-powered cars that performed superbly and also delivered the fuel-efficiency expected of them at a reasonable price. To do this, it was necessary to “cheat” Uncle, whose tailpipe emissions standards long ago devolved from reasonable to not. I’ve written about this before (here and here), the gist of it being that VW figured that fractional and therefore unnoticeable (except to EPA Inspector Javerts) increases in the exhaust emissions were an acceptable thing if the cars themselves performed noticeably better.

Which they did.

Having driven all the “affected” cars I can personally vouch for the fact that a TDI Jetta – as a for instance – is capable of delivering near-hybrid fuel economy (50 MPG is absolutely achievable) while accelerating with much greater gusto than slow-pokey hybrids like the Toyota Prius. Which also costs about $3k more, incidentally, than VW was asking for the base trim Jetta TDI($21,295 for the pre-urea 2014 model vs. $24,200 for the Prius that same year).

Now the “affected” cars will be less efficient – and more expensive.

It does not matter. Uncle is aggrieved.

And VW is screwed.red barchetta 2

So also the owners of the “affected” – that is, the targeted – cars. Which now includes certain diesel-powered Audi and Porsche cars, too.

They, too, will have to be re-engineered, at massive cost, and will not run better (and will probably run worse) after they’ve been “fixed.”

If I owned one of these rigs, I’d hide it in a barn, Red Barchetta-style, in order to keep it out of Uncle’s clutches. Of course, then it wouldn’t be much use except as a relic of a better managed time.

Which may be the best that can be done at this point.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
November 22, 2015 9:19 am

Wonder if or how Germany will end up dealing with VW as a “too big to fail” company?

Between VW and the Islamic invasion I think Germany is facing as fatal an outlook as it was at the end of the Wiemar Republic, time for a new and strong leader to arise or for Germany to be absorbed into something larger that can deal with it.

kokoda
kokoda
November 22, 2015 10:11 am

VW Bankruptcy? – No. Germany will bail out VW by some means. This has become a highly political issue; the German Gov’t surely is reaching out to the U.S. Gov’t, at a level higher than the EPA with its ridiculous standards.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
November 22, 2015 10:32 am

I know several people with this diesel engine. They love their cars and in no way shape or form want their vehicle “fixed”. One in my office received his “free” $500 visa card. When I informed him that he would likely have to go to the dealership to activate it and they would “fix” his car so that his car would run worse and get poorer gas mileage. He asked why the hell he would have to do that. He’s a little slow on the uptake. We have a 14 year old Jetta TDI and it runs like a charm. Luckily it does not fall under this recall. While Volkswagen brought this on themselves, what larger purpose would it serve to drive them out of business.
Bob.

OldeVirginian
OldeVirginian
November 22, 2015 10:38 am

Cant the owners just piss into the fuel tank?

Next somebody is going to want my bach and beethoven records back. Deutschland urea alles

Stucky
Stucky
November 22, 2015 10:51 am

“Deutschland urea alles” ———- OldeVirginian

Urea?? Urea is a chemical compound found in urine.

It’s “Deutschland über alles”.

You’re welcome. Don’t fuck up like that again.

Stucky
Stucky
November 22, 2015 10:54 am

Oh … fuck! I just now saw what you did there! You said they should PISS in the gas tank … so, you then changed “über” to urea.

OK … that’s actually pretty damned good!

So solly.

underfire
underfire
November 22, 2015 11:29 am

Here’s my story. I have a 2013 ford f 250 with the 6.7 diesel, which falls under the new rules. About 2 months ago I got water in my fuel from my farm tank. This is not uncommon, and all other vehicles, tractors etc. simply require draining or replacing filters and re priming the system.

But this new fuel system is so delicate that the entire system was damaged, from check valves in the tank to the injectors. To repair this at a ford shop runs on the order of 20-25k. The warranty is voided, and these engines sometimes can never be completely repaired, as I understand it.

underfire
underfire
November 22, 2015 11:33 am

On another note, my 2013, 6.7 diesel gets about 16 miles per gallon. I have several older fords with the 7.3, all of them get 20-23 mpg.

Das Arschloch
Das Arschloch
November 22, 2015 12:14 pm
starfcker
starfcker
November 22, 2015 1:32 pm

And you wonder why merkel welcomes the muzzies so passionately. Because bongo told her to. No german car sales in the US, no german economy. SQUEAL LIKE A PIG, ANGIE

Stucky
Stucky
November 22, 2015 1:45 pm

“No german car sales in the US, no german economy.” ——- starfcker

You should audition for the next Dumb & Dumber movie. You’re a solid lock.

The German economy is far more that just VW. Idiot.

starfcker
starfcker
November 22, 2015 2:24 pm

Stucky, they are already spreading this to the other german car companies. What do you think german industrial production consists of? We support germany, they support europe. Merkel will do what she’s told

starfcker
starfcker
November 22, 2015 2:37 pm

Germany EXPORTED 245 billion dollars worth of cars last, easily tops in the world. We ran a 75 billion dollar trade deficit with germany last year. Germany is europe. No german car sales, no germany. The german goverment crushes 70,000 audis a year, when they come off two year lease, to keep the factory humming. Costs them billions, every year

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
November 22, 2015 5:46 pm

I live in Germany and had an interview in October with a consulting company. I am an engineer with experience in production at Bosch. It was about doubling the capacity of Denox component suppliers for Bosch by the end of 2016. Given I have seen other crash programs at Bosch, where expense is no matter, such as the introduction of the ESP with the Mercedes A class in the late 1990’s, and the diesel pump issue in around 2005, it would not surprise me one bit that a hardware retrofit is on the table with VW and the EPA. They have prepared Bosch for it. That particular consulting company that I interviewed with did not get the contract to manage the doubling of supplier capacity, but somebody did get it. If it was not for a retrofit, way in the sudden is there all this new “surprise” demand, which the market did not see coming before, and now has to be handled with extraordinary measures?

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
November 22, 2015 5:59 pm

“underfire” I worked in the industry. I’ve seen the fuel injectors returned for the field for “water in the fuel”. That was a real easy reason to refuse the warranty claim. The systems are more and more sensitive like you say. The devil is in the details…when you deal with pressures at 1800 bar. The Common rail is lubricated by the fuel itself and not by oil. Your lubrication is dependent upon how good of a lubricity your fuel has (with additives). Water is a poor lubricant and also promotes corrosion on the the finely ground high alloyed steels making up a common rail system. In the main EU countries it works ok since the fuel is pretty well controlled and meets the “norm”.

overthecliff
overthecliff
November 22, 2015 6:00 pm

Just askin because I don’t know . This could turn into billions and billions of Euro losses. When this snowball goes down the hill where does it stop?

starfcker
starfcker
November 22, 2015 7:12 pm

Prosecutorial discretion is where it stops. Eric peters make a great case as to how bogus this issue really is. Read it on these pages. Everybody (at goldman) wants to rule the world. Who got harmed here?