The Fourth Turning intensifies by the minute. Donald Trump has called for a ban on all Muslims entering the United States. The establishment and their lackey mainstream media mouthpieces are aghast. Every time they think Trump has gone too far and has surely destroyed his campaign with an outrageous comment, he gains support. The ruling class doesn’t get the mood change in the country. They continue to think linearly. Times they are a changin. Get prepared for rocky times ahead.
Let’s get a flavor of the sentiment on TBP. Do you agree with Trump, why or why not?
Muslims Furious As 6 Of 8 Trump Supporters Stand Behind Muslim Travel Ban
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 12/08/2015 08:12 -0500
Yesterday’s stunning announcement by Donald Trump calling for a “total and complete” shutdown of Muslims entering the US (even US citizens), has unleashed a media frenzy across both the political and media world, and proven the real estate tycoon still has the capacity to not only shock but to serve as Obama’s political foil at every turn.
Furthermore, as Trump acknowledged Monday during a raucous South Carolina rally, his call for barring all Muslim foreigners from entering the United States is “probably not politically correct.” But as CNN reported earlier, he had three words for his critics: “I don’t care.”
Perhaps just as surprising, is that as he usually does, Trump once again managed to do what he has done so well during his campaign process – strike a chord with a prevailing undercurrent of what Trump admits is politically incorrect sentiment within US society. And if his South Carolina rally was any indication, that support will stick.
The reason: six of eight Trump supporters at the rally who spoke with CNN said they supported the Muslim travel ban, which has drawn swift criticism from other Republican and Democratic presidential contenders alike who slammed the proposal as contrary to American values of religious tolerance. And the two supporters at the rally who disagreed said they were still likely to vote for Trump.
“I think that we should definitely disallow any Muslims from coming in. Any of them. The reason is simple: we can’t identify what their attitude is,” said 75-year-old Charlie Marzka of Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. Marzka explained that he believes Islam “allows for the killing of people” and said he thinks Muslim culture “is absolutely contrary to our culture.”
Trump explained Monday on Fox News that his proposal would not apply to Muslim Americans and Muslims already living legally in the United States.
“It does not apply to people living in the country, except we have to be vigilant,” Trump said on Fox News moments before he took the stage in South Carolina.
Far from backtracking, however, Trump warned supporters that without his controversial proposals – which in addition to banning Muslim immigrants includes surveilling and potentially shutting down mosques – the U.S. could face another deadly attack on the scale of 9/11.
“We’re gonna have to figure it out, we can’t live like this. It’s going to get worse and worse, we’re going to have more World Trade Centers. It’s going to get worse and worse, folks. We can be politically correct and we can be stupid but it’s going to be worse and worse,” Trump added.
And that approach is why three-quarters of snap polled rally participants agreed with Trump even if one protester’s voice – one of five protester interruptions on Monday night – broke through the cheers. “This is racist bullshit,” he chanted.
So as Trump rallies his core base, his approval rating among the Muslim population will be a solid zero.
The Associated Press asked Muslims around the world for their thoughts on his proposal. This is what a random sampling of them thought:
AYA, a 22-year-old college graduate in Cairo who declined to give her full name for fear of alienating her family:”
“I was born to Muslim parents and wore the veil at a young age. Now I am an atheist, but I can’t tell anyone or take it off because they will probably kill me. My question to Donald Trump is: How do you know the Muslim you are banning is actually Muslim? Don’t you think an extremist can fake denounce Islam and enter as a Christian or an atheist and still blow up your country? This is not how you fight terrorism; this is how you fan it.”
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BASSEM YOUSSEF, former talk show host known as the Jon Stewart of the Middle East:
(On Twitter) “I didn’t know Donald Trump was fluent in Nazi.”
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TAREQ, 22-year-old college student in Cairo
“I don’t pray. I drink. I try to sleep around. All my friends do. I am about as Muslim as (Trump) is. Ban Muslims? Does he have any idea how many Muslims are just Muslims on paper?”
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YARA FARIS, 23-year-old journalist in the West Bank. She hopes to study international journalism at Columbia University:
“The U.S. will always be the best place to study, and I don’t think the U.S. would deny Muslims entry just because they are Muslims.”
“I see Trump as a crazy man. He always gives crazy statements and recently I read a report that shows that 60 percent of Trump’s statements were based on wrong information.”
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USAMA SALLAH, prominent Palestinian businessman in Jerusalem who lived in the U.S. for 14 years
“I think that these statements are a shame. This is not the United States that I knew, and I’m sure that the majority of the Americans don’t agree with it because it doesn’t represent American values.”
“I will continue to visit the United States whenever possible because I know that America is a great country in which there is no place for such racist opinions. And for those who agree with him, I ask: How would you feel if Arab and Muslim countries decided to ban Americans from entering them?”
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AHMED JALAJEL, Palestinian journalist in east Jerusalem who visited the U.S. last year as part of a State Department-sponsored program:
“I’m sure that what I heard from Trump doesn’t represent the United States. In America, I have seen a democratic country, nice people who love life, a great country that is ready to receive people from all over the world and a country of great values that Trump certainly doesn’t represent.”
“As a Muslim, I don’t think that Trump represents the United States; he only represents himself.”
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SAM BAHOUR, a Palestinian-American business consultant who moved from Youngstown, Ohio, to Ramallah, West Bank, in the 1990s, called the comments “disgraceful” and “absurd.”
“The backlash is going to be against Muslims. The Muslim community understands the inherent racism in some pockets of U.S. political life.”
“This makes the melting pot not melt at the end of the day.”
Bahour said relatives in the U.S. have been telling him “how they are hearing comments in the street, supermarkets, really racist comments. It’s not going to be the same being a Muslim in America, even once this passes.”
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AZIZA YOUSEF, a computer science professor at King Saud University in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia:
“He’s racist… I think Trump is representing himself. I don’t think he represents Americans.”
“Why is it that when there are crazy people who happen to be Muslim, they blame all Muslims? I will not be responsible for someone who commits a crime who happens to be a Muslim. I will not defend myself or defend Islam because a guy or person who happens to be Muslim did something stupid.”
Yousef is traveling to her vacation home in Virginia this weekend with her children and grandchildren as she does every year.
“I spend a lot of money there three to four months out of the year. Muslim tourists and those that live there as students help the economy of the United States.”
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SOMCHAI JEWANGMA, an officer with Thailand’s Sheikhul Islam Office, which governs the country’s Muslims:
“I don’t think that can ever be done. The United States has economic ties with Islamic countries and there are millions of Muslim people in America. This is just a policy to please those who don’t like Muslims and to gain more support.”
“It’s true that there are Muslim extremists, those who don’t have good intentions for Islam. But there are 1.7 billion Muslim people in the world. If we were all bad, then the world would be uninhabitable.”
Somchai also said entry rules already have become stricter: “When I applied for a U.S. visa, I was inspected for months.”
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AZRA KHAN, president of the Canberra Islamic Center in Australia, said Trump’s proposal is the wrong way to address last week’s attack in San Bernardino, California, in which a Muslim couple killed 14 people:
“Clearly Donald Trump is trying to inflame the situation. Clearly this tragedy is not about Muslims.”
“He could better improve the situation if he were to say, ‘Let the U.S. take guns more seriously and ban them.’ That one simple solution would be much more suitable and make the streets of America far safer.”
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NUR JAZLAN MOHAMAD, Malaysian deputy home minister, said the proposal is not aligned with America’s image as tolerant and democratic, and could play into the Islamic State group’s hands by alienating Muslims who are already in the U.S.”
“His proposal reflects the thinking of many people in America, and this is worrying.”
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KEYSAR TRAD, the chairman of the Sydney-based Islamic Friendship Association of Australia, said Trump’s statement reflected political desperation.
“Donald Trump’s statement is a desperate statement by a desperate man who knows that he’s clutching at straws and has no chance of winning the election. So he’s trying to win it off the back of the Islamophobia industry.”
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AMIDAN SHABERAH, the chairman of the Indonesian Council of Ulemas, an influential clerics’ organization, said Trump’s comments were a “big, big mistake.”
“He should not turn a blind eye to the fact that most of Muslims in the world strongly condemned any kind of extremism and radicalism in the name of Islam and our hearts and prayers go out to all victims of terrorism regardless of their faith.”
“Trump’s statement clearly shows us that Western society has a phobia against Islam, that people cannot distinguish between Islam and terrorist acts that rejected by mainstream Muslims.”
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IKEBAL PATEL, former president of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils:
“He’s trying to alienate not only the Muslim population of the United States but all the Muslims around the world.
“Nobody in their right mind would in any way condone what has just happened with those two individuals in that town, but to condemn in one fell swoop all the Muslims and to try to suggest that Muslims shouldn’t be allowed in America is quite ridiculous.”
Since “voting” is a protected 1st Amendment right as a type of speech, I am guessing that electing Trump to the Presidency will be declared Unconstitutional as a type of Hate Speech against Muslims by our Supreme Clowns prior to the election.
Seems obvious.
A trifecta by the Supreme Clowns, violating the Prior Constraint prohibition on government’s control of speech, negating the right of the citizenry to elect the candidate of their choice by majority vote AND inserted the first SCOTUS approved protected class into Case Law.
>>>> Still trying to figure how stopping IMIGRATION violates the constitutional rights of someone not here yet.
Heard that from about 50 talking heads this am.
Bwahahaha! The MSM, the Repubs, and the Dems are all running around with their hair on fire.
Someone has said something politically incorrect, and it has driven them insane. Simply beautiful to behold.
Trump has said something so blatantly obvious and truthful that the establishment cannot stand it.
He has said what so many already know. We are already at war with the Muzzies. Why worry about saying it?
I am starting to worry someone may kill him soon.
The uniformity of Muslim condemnation of Trump’s proposal is supportive of The Donald’s premise.
Note that NOT ONE OF THEM condemns the jihadi obligation – the rabid xenophobia, the religious bigotry, the pure hatred of “kaffirs” – pervasive throughout Islam.
The Mohammedan “faith” is a 7th-Century barbarity, carefully preserved in the surahs and the hadiths taught in every madrassa and every mosque all over the world. It is damnable not because it’s not Christian, but because it is unremittingly hostile toward every non-Muslim, with “conversion or the sword” an inescapable element of their moral doctrine.
And the Muslims whose comments were elicited and recapitulated here reflect that.
Until Islam undergoes the equivalent of Christianity’s Reformation, the adherents of this excuse for a religion really cannot be countenanced as anything other than enemy aliens.
I was just thinking same thing. He should be careful doesn’t end up like Bobby Kennedy.
No need to get excited about Trump. He’s going to fold like a cheap suit when he has his “come to Jesus” meeting with TPTB. If not, he’ll die trying. (An accident of course. wink, wink)
JIMSKI
Iff you ever get the chance, ask them exactly what part of the Constitution guarantees anyone’s right to immigrate here.
The answer, of course, is that there is none since Congress was given exclusive power to establish immigration standards and regulations, but they will neither know that or understand the question.
I agree with several above.
(A) “It’s not American” to discriminate against a group for immigration – although, try telling that to several groups that were denied immigration under earlier statutes. We nearly shut down immigration for what, about forty years, earlier last century?
1875: “The Page Act becomes law. It’s the country’s first exclusionary act, banning criminals, prostitutes, and Chinese contract laborers from entering the country. ”
1882: “The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 bans “skilled and unskilled laborers and Chinese employed in mining” from entering the country for ten years and denies Chinese immigrants the path to citizenship. Thousands of Chinese immigrants had worked on the construction of the Trans-Continental Railroad, and these workers were left unemployed when the project was complete. The high rate of unemployment and anti-Chinese sentiment led to passage of the law.”
1903: “Congress passes the Anarchist Exclusion Act, which denies anarchists, other political extremists, beggars, and epileptics entry into the U.S. It’s the first time individuals are banned from the U.S. based on political beliefs.”
1917: “Immigration Act of 1917, also called Asiatic Barred Zone Act, further restricted immigration, particularly of people from a large swath of Asia and the Pacific Islands. The act also bars homosexuals, “idiots,” “feeble-minded persons,” “criminals,” “insane persons,” alcoholics, and other categories. In addition, the act sets a literacy standard for immigrants age 16 and older. They must be able to read a 40-word selection in their native language. ”
1921: “The Emergency Quota Law of 1921 limits the number of immigrants entering the U.S. each year to 350,000 and implements a nationality quota. Immigration from any country is capped at 3% of the population of that nationality based on the 1910 census. The law reduces immigration from eastern and southern Europe while favoring immigrants from Northern Europe.”
1940: “The Alien Registration Act (Smith Act) requires that all immigrants age 14 and up register with the government and be fingerprinted. The act also bans individuals considered “subversives” from immigrating. ” [Someone say we are at war? ]
Bottom line: Based on circumstances, hostilities and economics, we have discriminated repeatedly in the past for whatever reason we wanted. But let’s say that you don’t want to discriminate, let’s ban ALL immigration for forty years, or until every America who wants a job has a job. ARGUE AGAINST THAT, YOU SOCIALIST PRICKS!
Muslims suck,Their bible tells them to kill nonbelievers. Moderate Muslims? More like fair weather believers. It’s like having a Christian say he believes the bible except that page about men not laying with men and animals and such. Muslims cause problems wherever they go. Just look at the middle east to see what kind of genius folks they are.
Saw today Val Jarrett and Obama the king of Muslims disqualifies Trump! Just put the w h goons on ignore!
Such statements by Trump endanger our national security. Mohammedans will be motivated to shoot people and blow things up in the USA because of him. Oh yeah, they did that before Trump said anything!!
Establishment Republicans and corrupt presstitute media, I have to agree with you. Trump is a corrupt reality show scoundrel. Compared to you bastards he looks pretty good.
Colonel Peters deserves a raise.
LLpoh, think you are right. Trump needs to remember Huey Long.
Dutchman: No, we don’t need more people in the US. We don’t have enough jobs, and particularly good ones, for the people already here
One big difference between the Old Testament and the Koran is that the Christian religion went through an enlightenment and most Christians no longer believe in the Bible literally word for word, unlike Islam which believes and practices it literally.
KaD – the enlightenment was Christianity. The New Testament superceeds the Old, and Christianity is a religion of peace.
Islam is warlike, is political, and is not moderate. Yes, there are many moderate Muslims. But fact is, Islam is not moderate , and moderate Muslims are mis-interpretting the Koran. As such, extremists who can read will always spring forth. Their holy book says in black and white to be warlike. Nothing can or will change that.
Exactly Llpoh
I’ll just speak for myself but i think applies whole cloth.
My problem is that I censor myself worried that I am going to offend some crazy retard musloid somewhere in the world. I hear all the time about so called moderate muslims saying stuff like.
We are a religion of peace.
We don’t condone attacks.
We want to live and co-exist in a secular society
Yet all around I see evidence to the contrary.
I don’t remember any Fatwas issued in Mecca or Medina condemning the Charlie attacks.
I can’t recall an outcry of disgust over the Danish Cartoon Controversy.
I didn’t see people protesting in the streets when Khomeini issued the Fatwa on Salman Rusdie.
But I am supposed to believe that these people wanting to come to the country I live will in one generation change 1400 years of ignorance. I don’t think so. Einstein once said the definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.
Now some will call this Islamophobia. I say it is not. To be phobic means to be scared. I cannot be scared when I only have contempt for that religion.
Just let the fundamentalist Christians gain absolute control of our country and see how long it takes for heads to roll. The Christians were once persecuted by the Romans. To practice any religion besides the Roman State religion was a crime to be sentenced to death. Then Constantine allowed people to practice any religion. Then the Christians gained control and made it a crime to practice any religion other than Christianity under penalty of death. Then the Christians started to kill each other over differing beliefs in the nature of Trinity. Having gained complete control (the Catholics) the Dark Ages followed. Those God fearing people conjured up amazing ways to torture and kill people. The Muslims have nothing over them. Religious fundamentalism is the problem, Muslim of Christian. It contains the seeds of evil
Ralph Peterson is wrong about Obama being a total pussy; I know pussy and Obama is no pussy. He is a total ass-hole. If it looks like a ass hole, smells like a asshole and sounds like a asshole, then it is a ass hole. Besides, his mother and father were ass holes so their baby turd has to be a ass hole too.
B you are an idiot and know nothing about Church History. The Christians NEVER had control over the Roman government. Many a Pope is burning in hell. Read the following:
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven – only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and do many powerful deeds?’ 23 Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Go away from me, you lawbreakers!’
Try to get away frim your public school/public university and progreesive education and read the real history of the church. It’s not what you were taught on religious history 101.
Frigging I-gadget… Forgive the spelling errors
Someone made a comment sometime back on another thread here on TBP that the difference between a radical Muslim and a moderate Muslim is that a radical Muslim will cut your head and a moderate Muslim will do nothing to stop him, or something to that affect.
Well one of my neighbors was born and raised and educated in Turkey and he tells me that the vast majority of the population in Turkey is moderate Muslims. Ok so let’s just go with that.
Remember what happened at a soccer game in Turkey when there was a request to observe a minute of silence for those killed in the Paris Attacks……. Those so called moderate Muslims cheered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDeqHGwQBbc
There you go, there are your moderate Muslims.
So I would modify that statement:
The difference between a Radical Muslim and a moderate Muslim is that a radical Muslim will cut off your head and a moderate Muslim will do nothing to stop him but will cheer and celebrate the event.
Oops try again
[img]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDeqHGwQBbc[/img]
To answer the question do I agree with Trump—YES!!
And I also agree with what flash posted at 3:30:
“the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited.”
RHS Jr says: Ralph Peterson is wrong about Obama being a total pussy; I know pussy and Obama is no pussy. He is a total ass-hole. If it looks like a ass hole, smells like a asshole and sounds like a asshole, then it is a ass hole. Besides, his mother and father were ass holes so their baby turd has to be a ass hole too.
Bob knows pussy. OOh, sounds like the old Bo Jackson commercials. Please tell me, Bob. Pretend I’m a nerd.
I’ve never donated to a political campaign, but I’m going to send Trump 50 bucks. God bless him. I pray for his safety. Make America Great Again !!
What I’d like ter see is all the beaners rounded up and put ter work roundin up the terrorists. Fer every terrorist they git a 12 pack uh bud light and a goat leg. If they catch one with uh dirty bomb er grenades er some shit like that they git uh pinata shaped like uh donkey. Then when the terrorists is taken care of and we have all them beaners in one place we round them up and send them back across the Red River and tell em they git shot iffen they try ter swim back.
Susanna, constman, and asig, you all crystallized my thoughts. Susanna, i brought up the same comment during lunch at work today. Many of the other comments were equally ridiculous, but we are ignorant, uneducated people here in America…
Most of you know deep down inside of you how this is going to play out. I’m tired of waiting for things to get sporty.
I’m going to vote for Trump if he’s still there in November and that will be my last time voting. The reality is that it won’t matter who’s President, what congress does or doesn’t do or what bullshit the supreme assholes make into law. This is going to end up the same way regardless.
As bad as it is now, these are the good old days. After the inevitable shitstorm there may be good days again. History teaches that there are no guarantees.
@ EC/Billah’s wife
No need to round you Beaners up. We already know where you are. Right here! On TBP. Thank you for that.
B
You might be able to post shit like that on your facebook but not here. Blaming the Catholic Church for the dark ages. I don’t think so. The ancient texts were preserved at Monasteries in places like Ireland so that we would have a window on the classical world. It has been said by many historians, and I agree, that the breakdown in communications in the West, the Dark ages if you will, was caused in large part because the free trade on Mediterranean became a non-factor. I took months to journey overland rather than weeks at sea to travel. Why did this happen. Well because a bunch of looting, raping lunatics from the sands of Arabia conquered parts of the Eastern Roman Empire, the North African shore of that sea along with Spain and Portugal. All Christian by the way. They were only stopped by Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours in 732. Do you see the problem here B.
I then I am told by Liberals that it is a religion of peace. It is not. It is a religion of conquest. Now one can say that Christianity is as well. I did work well in the Americas. But in Europe, Africa and Asia Christendom has been fighting rear guard actions along with all the other religions, Hindu Sikh, Buddhist etc. for millenia. Trying to keep, as you will, the invaders from breaking down the gates of Vienna.
Oh yeah they speak of tolerance as well. But that’s bullshit too. I am nominally Christian. Catholic I suppose. Yet under Sharia I would have to pay a tax, a Dhimmi, if I was lucky. There are numerous accounts thru the ages of people being murdered because they would not convert.
Worse still I don’t really believe in God. I say that without fear here in my country. I know there is tolerance. The fundamentalists you speak of out there want to convince me with words that I am wrong. Under Sharia I would be put to the sword as a Kafir as is happening right now in the latest Caliphate.
The problem with Islam is that when Intolerance is running rampant in the streets the moderates are hiding in their houses. Afraid to speak. Worried that they too like me will be targeted. In Paris there are no go zones. The lunatics are running the asylum. Yet the best the West can do is wring their hands and say nothing can be done. It is a cruel irony that in the land of Charles Martel this has happened again.
Trump may seem terrible to some, like a modern American Hitler. But he is exactly what America so desperately NEEDS right now (he’s got what America craves, he’s got electrolytes!), a real difference from the collection of clones pretending to run against each other, like the heel and face wrestler working the crowd prior to the big pay-per-view cage match. He will change the course of this nation, finally. For good or ill. Perhaps it will be for ill. But then, perhaps the time has come to knock down the crumbling, rotting edifice and start anew. He seems like the man to bring in the climax of our Fourth Turning.
Assuming he doesn’t get ‘suicided’ or have a tragic one car accident first.
B…I thought you had just consumed too much Left-Wing Secular Kool-Aid. Now I know, you were dropped on your head after birth…that’s your problem .
by Karl Denninger
Trump: Stop It Now
Trump did what Trump always does when he gets the mic — he said what he thinks.
The Donald called for an immediate halt to all Muslims coming to America — as tourists, as refugees, as immigrants.
Not permanently, but for now, until we figure out exactly what we did wrong, how we can fix, and we fix it.
“Until we are able to determine and understand this problem and the dangerous threat it poses, our country cannot be the victims of horrendous attacks by people that believe only in Jihad, and have no sense of reason or respect for human life,” Trump said in a statement.
The reaction from the others in the race — and Muslims — was immediate and loud. He was called racist, unhinged, divisive, dangerous, a demagogue and more.
But there’s a problem with all the screaming: He’s right.
Note that what Trump didn’t say, and in fact pointed out later, was that this would not be a permanent policy change. Not only would that be unreasonable it would be stupid. But to halt the flow of people into the country that happens to include essentially all terrorists in today’s world until we change our national policies to deter the effectiveness of terrorism and better detect those who are terrorists is not only intelligent it is necessary.
Our idiotic policies on a national level did not occur overnight. Nor will fixing them. Until we fix them, and fixing them will require debate, discussion and ultimately legislation we must put a stop to the jihadis coming here and wreaking havoc.
We are at war and it was not our declaration of war, it was theirs; it does not matter whether we also declare war or not as it was declared upon us, repeatedly.
There are several things we must address in this country when it comes to terrorism. They’re not optional but addressing them requires that we have that discussion, debate, examination and that action be taken. They include:
•We must hold to account those government agencies and individuals that through gross negligence or even intentional blindness put political correctness before their job. This means not only firing people it means prosecuting them as accessories before the fact when that political correctness, jacking off instead of working, infighting between agencies and similar lead to tangible harm such as occurred with 9/11, at Ft. Hood and in California. In all three cases and many others government agencies knew damn well there was a problem because all the information necessary to stop the attack was present and in the hands of government employees yet they did nothing about it. I accept that there will be missed opportunities and mistakes. We’re human. I refuse to accept malfeasance, misfeasance and intentional blindness.
•We must enforce the law when it comes to immigration, employment and related matters. There has been exactly zero enforcement of these matters over the last 20 years. Every employer already must file payroll taxes and thus provide identification (in the form of a Social Security number) on a weekly basis and every one of those forms is required to be truthful. We do exactly nothing to the employers who willingly and knowingly file false documents on a weekly basis or worse, file nothing yet pay employees. We can stop this crap right now without passing a single new law and until we do and make those who are here illegally whether due to an overstayed visa, intentional violation of our immigration laws or as a result of intending to either spread or commit jihad unemployable and jail those who have enabled this behavior we must shut off the spigot.
•We must restore the Second Amendment in full and as-written on a national basis. Once we have addressed both ordinary and gross negligence by the government when it comes to our existing body of law we must then remove the premise of a “soft target” from the American lexicon. Criminals do not obey the law, that’s why they’re called criminals. But criminals of all sorts, whether the ordinary “carjacking” or jihadist type, do fear being ventilated as soon as someone sees them attempt to commit a violent, deadly felony. It is both logistically and fiscally impossible to have enough cops and FBI agents to cover the entire nation in this regard, never mind the outrageous violations of civil rights and privacy that would be required to accomplish that task even if you could physically do so, which you can’t. However, every mass murder incident whether terrorism or not has one common element — a group of victims who are murdered. The only low-to-zero cost deterrent that we know will work is to dramatically raise the percentage of those potential victims that are armed all the time, and this means putting a stop to the over 50,000 gun-related laws that impede and trample every citizen’s right to protect themselves and their loved ones in the gravest extreme. Those federal, state and local officials who refuse to take this action through repeal of all of these blatantly unconstitutional laws or attempt to interfere with doing so must be prosecuted and locked up under existing federal law, specifically 18 USC 242 that proscribes hard federal felony time for violations of civil rights under color of law or authority. Enough with the shooting ranges in schools and at Christmas parties damnit. Those officials who create such situations are guilty of federal felonies and must be imprisoned now.
Once all three of these areas are addressed — when we have put a stop to all of the above then we can allow those who wish to come to this country to do so having been vetted through a process where those doing so are accountable for their negligence or worse.
They will come to an America that has no “soft targets” and, in all probability, if we miss one or more they will choose somewhere else to commit their violence.
But if they do not then their intended victims will have both the ability and, one hopes, the desire, to fight back rather than cower in the corner as they’re slaughtered like pigs in a meat-packing plant.
Trump is right once again.
EL Cibernetico’s: Sorry, this is a family site and we’d need to confirm your age etc; but by the time you are 70, you should know all about the real thing and be able to tell the difference between the marital benefit and the Obamahole.
hmm didn’t carter ban all Iranians during the hostage fiasco when he was president?
Memory a little fuzzy atm lack of sleep lol
Taqiyyah goes beyond mere lying for propaganda purposes. The word comes from a root meaning “to guard against, to keep (oneself)”. It thus also includes dissimulation by the Muslim to give the appearance of not being religious, so as not to arouse suspicion. In this vein, a Muslim, if necessary, may eat pork, drink alcohol, and even verbally deny the Islamic faith, as long as he does not “mean it in his heart”. If the end result of the lie is perceived by the Muslim to be good for Islam or useful to bringing someone to “submission” to Allah or to be defeted in a “holy war”-battle, then the lie can be sanctioned through taqiyyah.