9/11 MORONIC JET FUEL ARGUMENT

Let the shit flinging begin. I got a D in Physics in college, so I’m out of the discussion.


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Bea Lever
Bea Lever

Roy

I for one am glad you are posting daily, I have learned some interesting facts from you in the last few days. Please stay in the mix.

Westie- Building 7 is a huge problem for the criminal cabal, the smoking gun IMHO and I pray that one day they will have to answer for this.

JFish
JFish

So – just to be clear – most here are not taking Bubba the Redneck Metallurgist’s word for it then?

Damn… for a minute there… I thought he might have cracked the code and figured it all out.

Oh well… Keep trying Bubba…

Bea Lever
Bea Lever

I am going to ask a serious question and I hope that some of you have the balls to answer honestly.

If you take the time to go to YouTube and watch the planes hit each tower, watch it over and over and over again, then deep down is there something about that footage that bothers you? Does something seem wrong about what you see?

Watch the slow motion version where the planes disappear completely into the buildings BEFORE there is an explosion and yet not one wing falls off and really no evidence of anything falling off of the planes (??) When you consider that these airplanes were as long as the buildings were wide that they flew into, does this strike you as odd that they just sooooooo easily disappear into a steel and concrete structure? They disappear into steel and concrete effortlessly as if by magic , and that is what bothers me no matter how many times I watch those videos.

I would like your opinions.

Rise Up

NIST contracted Underwriter’s Laboratories to conduct heat testing on the steel for the 911 Commission report.

Below are excerpts from this report by Kevin Ryan:

http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/kevin_ryan/newstandard.html

” Evidence that the steel was tested include:

24:50
A. UL’s comments on testing WTC steel

September 2001
Loring Knoblauch, UL’s CEO, told staff that UL had certified the steel used in the WTC
November 2003
I asked Knoblauch in writing about UL’s involvement, and he responded in December confirming details.
“We tested the steel with all the required fireproofing on, and it did beautifully.”
“As we did not do follow-up service on this kind of product, we can given an opinion only on the test sample which was indeed properly coated.”
“We test the code requirements, and the steel clearly met [the NYC code] requirements and exceeded them.”

In August of 2004, UL performed tests of WTC floor models, but the floors were barely affected and didn’t collapse. Loring Knoblauch resigned suddenly.

In October of 2004, a NIST report update showed contradictions.

In November of 2004 Ryan’s letter to Frank Gayle went public, causing UL to quickly backtrack, saying there was “no evidence” that any firm tested the steel, and that they played a “limited” role in the investigation.

C. Analysis of Steel

29:40
C. Analysis of steel

Most of the steel evidence destroyed
Tomasetti decision (Thornton’s partner)
236 samples saved for testing (0.3%)
NIST tests
Paint tests indicated low steel temps (480 F) “despite pre-collapse exposure to fire”
Microstructure tests showed no steel reached critical (half-strength) values (600 C)

Having failed to find any samples that showed exposures to temperatures that would have produced critical weakening of steel, NIST stated “None of the samples were from zones where [high] heating was predicted”

(The two co-chairs of the 911 Commission Report, Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, believe that the government established the Commission in a way that ensured that it would fail.)

starfcker
starfcker
Ghost

Yes, Bea… it is almost as if the planes merge into a tower of jello. It is uncanny. No debris or point of impact explosion. Just a big old airplane flying into a thick liquid tower.

And I’m with you on Roy’s comments. When I said I can’t imagine where the Murrah Bldg debris would be buried at Tinker, it is only because I’m very familiar with the base. I certainly think it could be buried somewhere… just doubt it is THERE.

Roy

Bea – Did you ever take an aluminum beer/soda can and smash it to the size of a coaster? Now the engines are another story. ??? Does anyone know if they found the black boxes?

The plane that hit the first tower to collapse hit at an angle and dumped a third of it’s fuel on the ground. The other fuel entered the building and burned, jet fuel deflagrates (combusts slower than the speed of sound) it does not detonate.

Why does the government go to such extremes to cover up it’s malfeasance and corruption? It’s because credibility and confidence are more important than the truth in the eyes of the beholder. If you don’t have confidence in someone you cannot be CONED. The truth must be suppressed if it contradicts the official story. Look at Snowden,.Manning and Assange as compared to Corzine, Rubin and Geithner. Kennedy’s brains were splattered all over the trunk and Jackie yet people believe he died on the operating table. The government schools have done an incredible job of dumbing down the serfs.

The process is much more important than the product as best illustrated by Government teacher certification. You must meet certain criteria non of which include knowing the material or being able to teach. Things accelerated down the drain when the professional “educators” took over from the teachers.

Style is more important than substance as best illustrated by JFK whom the liberals/progressives are trying to elevate to Sainthood. The man had less morals than a goat and lied about his health but the worst thing he did was issue an Executive Order allowing public wage recipients to Unionize and extort pay and benefits from the wuissified politicians. Now Public employees can facilitate tax increases to satisfy their wants (not needs). The Private Sector must increase production or efficiency to pay higher wages. This will decimate the middle class with the remnant being mostly government employees.

Maggie – The Air Force top Explosive expert said that a fertilizer bomb didn’t have that power, he was ignored for the reasons enumerated above.

Rdawg
Rdawg

DRUD; I think the word you’re looking for is “buckling”.

Do I win the kewpie doll?

DRUD
DRUD

Yes…and about time.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever

Maggie

I hate to sound like a no-planer but unless somebody can explain to me what is up with planes that can fly through concrete and steel like it was Jello, as you said, without breaking up,,,,,,,,well that is very strange. I hope you watched the slow motion videos.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever

DRUD- Do you have one of your uber-intelligent theories for my plane question? Or is it too far past the beginning of cocktail hour to ask?

AnarchoPagan
AnarchoPagan

Bea,

Building 7 was for me the final straw that pretty much woke me up in 2008 (better late than never). Yes the planes melting into the buildings videos also look very weird to me. Could I think be CGI, what’s even weirder is that a simple expert examination of the video should be able to prove it one way or the other, I’m sure CGI doesn’t look like “natural” footage at the pixel level, but no one I know of has done it, or anyone that has, has been effectively silenced. As to why, maybe there were no planes, or maybe there were planes but not the kind they wanted you to see, commercial airliners. Just speculating here without any evidence, I don’t have any firm beliefs about how the buildings were dropped, I’m just sure the official story is bunk. Collapse by plane crash should have been asymmetric.

gm
gm

been outta town a few days , hi yall ) .

Looking at all the evidence from an empirical standpoint , such as what temperature does steel melt at , thermite , and the absolute conviction that Building 7 had in joining the twin towers in collapsing into its own footprint in a show of solidarity or something …………………………..

Unequivacable , without a shadow of a doubt it was caused by Globull Warming lol

Sarc off . Whatever lol ))

Bea Lever
Bea Lever

AP

So, hologram is possible answer and it explains the dark dull look of the plane? You notice they had a real plane flying around in circles out over the water (so people would remember the sound of a aircraft to make the illusion seem more real)?

fear & loathing

when i tied steel it was encased in concrete lots of it, try bending concrete

Bourbon Pete
Bourbon Pete

In the video this moron shows heated steel bending. Not disentigrating!!! Not breaking into pieces, which would allow for a free fall collapse.

SSS

Admin

Thanks for giving the Truthers their own little play room every now and then. The little dears are having so much fun with their playmates here. Sharing toys. Hugging. Dancing. Drawing funny pictures. Asking silly questions.

It’s such a joy to see these children full of curiosity, raising their hands in unison, and asking the teacher to explain what will become obvious later on in their lives. These precious little bunnies and snowflakes are truly the shining light of our future.

Olga
Olga

5 minute response to the initial video.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfhJE4nSqlU

Maggie
Maggie

Bea, I DID watch the slo mo vids. Uncanny for an airplane to sink into the building as if being enveloped by smoke.

I watched Dr. Judy Wood above, which Sensetti shared at 6:12. I find her to be very believable and think she is one to something. It makes me wonder if OKC wasn’t the test of the new weapon.

And then, I realize that we are all so fucked it is unbelievable.

Rise Up

@Maggie, I, too, have watched and listened to many of Judy Wood’s interviews. She is smart not to discuss WHO or WHY, only the WHAT of the event. Her book, “Where Did The Towers Go”, is superb. The pictures post-911 from above the buildings show big circular holes in the roofs.

Were scalar weapons used? That could be the reason the towers disintegrated into dust and the expected debris pile was practically non-existent. Nikola Tesla tested scalar weapon technology back in the 1930s.

gm
gm

scaler weapons are banned under the U.N , look it up .

Which means they exist

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