Rob and myself finally did it. We went to a gun show. We had to park about a half mile away, because the crowds were so large. They even had shuttle buses running in the parking lot. I kept looking for Obama’s gun show loophole, but I couldn’t find it. What we found were a couple thousand American citizens who still believe in the 2nd Amendment and their right to exercise that freedom. We also found this shirt that reflects the thinking of hard working decent middle class white people.
The people I saw haven’t benefited from some phantom white privilege. These were people who get up every day, go to work, pay their taxes, stay married, raise children, and reflect the true American spirit. They aren’t bitter about their lot in life. All they ask is to be left alone by an overreaching hostile government that considers them potential domestic terrorists because they know how to use guns, believe in liberty and follow the U.S. Constitution. This is what Barack Obama thinks of them:
“It’s not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.” – Barack Obama – 2008
His hope and change sloganeering in 2008 didn’t fool these people. I don’t think I’d be far off in estimating there wasn’t a single Obama supporter in that massive expo center. He despises and scorns working class white Americans. His quote above captures his disdain for us. His entire presidency has been the most divisive in history. He has instigated the race baiting. He hails Islam as a religion of peace while attending mosques and pisses on Christianity at every opportunity.
He uses every mass shooting, caused by young people on psychotropic drugs, as an opportunity to take guns out of the hands of white Americans. Where is Obama’s plan to get the illegal guns out of the hands of black gangstas in Chicago, Detroit, Philly, St. Louis, and dozens of other Democrat controlled urban ghetto kill zones? He wants to close gun show loopholes, as if the people at these guns shows are actually committing any crimes. Over 80% of all the murders in this country are committed by non-whites in dangerous welfare supported inner cities. There are few murders and little crime in rural America, because people are armed.
He ridicules the white working class because they are anti-immigrant and anti-trade. His response is to allow hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees with no education and no skills to invade our country, further deteriorate or fraying social safety net, and eventually have some slaughter us infidels. This supposed man of the common people just signed the TPP bill which will destroy more American jobs. It was written in secrecy by corporate lobbyists and foisted upon the American people sight unseen. I guess we had to pass it to see what was in it, aka Obamacare.
This despicable excuse for a human being has bowed down to Wall Street, corporate interests, the military industrial complex and the Federal Reserve. He’s done nothing to help the average American. Obamacare is a clusterfuck that has driven premiums and deductibles sky high for middle class Americans, while driving small businesses into bankruptcy and turning full time jobs into part-time jobs. He is leaving the next president a $20 trillion national debt, with $1 trillion deficits as far as the eye can see, and $200 trillion of unfunded promises. And lastly, as I can attest, he will go down in history as the greatest gun salesman of all time.
The people at that gun show aren’t stupid. They know the government is the enemy. They aren’t buying guns for protection against foreign enemies or criminal gangs. They are buying guns because they don’t trust their politician leaders or the shadowy elite pulling the strings behind the curtain in NYC and DC. There were dozens of Trump shirts for sale. My guess is 75% of that crowd will be voting for Trump.
The people in that expo hall aren’t troublemakers. They are the silent majority who go about their lives not bothering anyone and not wanting to be bothered by Black Lives Matter activists, feminists smearing blood on themselves, male Olympians pretending to be a chick, college kids seeking safe spaces from micro-aggression, and hordes of uneducated ghetto rats demanding more free shit from them.
From a demographic standpoint I’d say that 90% of the attendees were male. At least 98% of the audience was white. I’d guess the average age was 45. We know 102 million working age Americans, or 40% of those able to work, are not working. Looking around that expo hall my estimation is that at least 90% of those men work. I bet many of them are self employed. Most of those men looked like they could fix your plumbing or electrical problems, put a roof on your house, or build you an addition. Not Obama’s kind of people. He prefers government supported ghetto slaves who vote Democrat to keep the free shit coming. Self-sufficiency, work ethic, marriage, and ability to defend yourself are antiquated concepts in Obama World. Anyone exhibiting these qualities is deemed suspect by the government.
The amount and variety of guns at this show is overwhelming for amateurs like Rob and myself. And it wasn’t just guns. There were knives, machetes, swords, tasers, and even crossbows.
There were even cute little pink guns for ladies.
We ended up not making any purchases, as the prices seemed kind of high compared to what I’ve seen on-line. You would think you might be a little uneasy with all those people around all those weapons, but it was the complete opposite. It would be comical if some Muslim attempted to shoot or slash someone at a gun show. They would be dead in an instant. There would be no cowering or running away. Hundreds of those dudes would be wanting a piece of that Muslim terrorist.
One of the more humorous observations from the show as we strolled up and down aisle after aisle of high powered rifles, hand guns and AR15s, was when we stumbled upon a table between the weapons tables with little girl scouts dressed in their uniforms and selling thin mints, tagalongs, and samoas. The juxtaposition of cute little girl scouts amongst thousands of bearded old men wearing camo, was amusing to say the least. After a couple hours of enjoyment we decided to hit the road and get some lunch and a beer or four at Chap’s Tap.
Avalon wasn’t too busy when we arrived. She seated us and brought us our first beers. Two hours later after sandwiches and three more beers we were ready to call it a day. We left her a big fat tip (which I get back anyway) and headed for home. It was a totally enjoyable experience. I certainly fit in among the gun show crowd and the crowd at the Shamrock in Wildwood, better than I fit in among business people and wealthy people. I’d much rather be in a foxhole with those folks than my suburban neighbors or the people I work with.
We all know the shit is going to hit the fan, if it isn’t hitting it already. When the debt supported house of cards collapses, EBT cards no longer work and the free shit stops, it’s the people at that gun show who will be able to survive and help rebuild this country based on the Constitution, individual freedom, liberty and self responsibility. If the government thugs think they can intimidate and suppress the heavily armed rural folk, they have another thing coming. 300 million guns in the hands of men who know how to use them will defeat any DHS contingent of hired thugs. Local police will either fall into line with the people or risk having their families killed.
The government fears the gun show crowd. And they should.
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say goodbye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling in terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand. The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst; the cursed machine would have ground to a halt . . .”
– Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago
Glad to see mention of John Ross’s “Unintended Consequences” book. I read it a couple of years ago, amazingly the county library system had a copy. Everyone who is a regular here should read it, IMO.
Reading this essay today makes me feel proud to be the son of a once great nation.
This photo hangs in my shop. Had it blown up and put it into a frame few years ago. Old school bad asses with a sense of humor. Sometimes I like to stare at it if only to remind me….
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It is obvious you have NO government you can call your own. You or they put in a negro not fit or lawful to be up there.
And Congress has not bothered to remove the negro. In fact they put him in.
Since the negro is NOT lawful no laws or appointments by him are legal. You can ignore the negro and it is in your SUPREME interest to do so.
“Imagine that your national guard is called up. Outside of it’s upper command structure – it does not know why.”
—-Francis Marion
Your scenario about Guard units in the U.S. is totally beyond the pale, starting with that sentence. All Guard units are under the command of the governor of the state in which they are located. If a Guard unit is “called up” to active duty (or federalized), it comes under the ultimate command authority of the president.
I’ve never known or heard of your “does not know why” hypothesis. Starting with the senior civilian executives and elected legislators of the state, plus the state’s senior national guard staff, literally dozens and dozens of state officials will know why and where their people are going. Did I mention that I spent nearly 3 years as an Air Force advisor to an Air National Guard unit? I think I know what I’m talking about. Your scenario won’t happen, because it can’t.
@Francis Marion…beyond the pale..It’s called rural pacification.We already know the cities are infested with stupid and easily controlled .. but outside the line…You’re on the right path , Brother…keep digging.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Program
Francis, I mean you no ill will, and I understand and appreciate that thought experiments can be fun and interesting, and sometimes useful. I think the US social and government system is quite different from how you picture it. Far more chaotic, and while somewhat centralized on paper (with a nominal federal republic that no longer works how it supposed to), the actual operation is very decentralized and compartmentalized.
It’s always a wildcard whether government employees ordered to do bad things to people who aren’t that different from them, except for not being govt employees, will do so. I don’t want to find out the true answer. But I think it would be far more varied and unpredictable than you think, and it would only take 1-3 days before all hell would break loose in really spectacular fashion. Think of every armed govt agent in the USA, at all levels, going breakup-of-Yugoslavia with 100+ distinct and shifting factions. I think there would be so much warfare between factions of nominal govt agents that true civilians would mostly need to just stay out of the crossfire for a few weeks.
I am a believer that the military tends not to turn on its own people.
It is the police that do that. Despots use the police when they want to attack their people, as a rule, and in preparation for that they tend to dramatically expand the police force.
In the US, the folks that I would classify as police include DHS, IRS, FBI, ATF, and sundry police. Are those numbers expanding? How about their armaments? Doh!
It is those folks that will do the dirty work, as they are accustomed to it – they do it for a living already, and are trained in it, and are indoctrinated in it.
As opposed to the military, who most certainly are not.
SSS- Your scenario about Guard units in the U.S. is totally beyond the pale,
Hardly…
As my own personal addendum to Francis Marion:
I have been thinking about your comments here today. All day in fact. I always seem to appreciate your eloquent writing as well as your insight. You may be more accurate in your assessment(s) than many here would like to admit. Clearly, I am not expert on matters you have raised that some are now challenging. You clearly stated you were merely laying out possible scenarios and not dictating them as if there were no other possible outcomes. In doing so, some of your comments on this this thread read like a Tom Clancy or Joel Rosenberg novel. I, for one, appreciate your input.
I know, in previous threads, you have received grief over “hitting the pause button”. This is a nice thought to have more time to prepare, etc. However, it’s up to TPTB and they keep hitting “play” at every turn.
As far as I am concerned, this means I will hit “fast-forward” and pray for divine intervention.
Whatever happens will. I will keep on asking, keep on seeking and keep on knocking and make the best decisions for my family at any given time. In any event, may God help us all.
Just my two cents…
There is no animal on earth more dangerous than an 19 year old empowered by government with the right to kill..history will attest..SSS understand this era the way a troglodyte understands algebra…not so much.
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One third of millennials view socialism favorably
Younger Americans have a much better view of socialism, and worse view of capitalism, than their elders
https://today.yougov.com/news/2015/05/11/one-third-millennials-like-socialism/
Bernie Sanders, a Senator for Vermont and currently the only declared challenger to Hillary Clinton for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination, is the only member of Congress to describe himself as a socialist. For much of the Cold War socialism evoked images of military parades in Moscow’s Red Square, but for Sanders, and many of America’s self-declared socialists, their aim isn’t to bring revolution to America but to make America more like Sweden and Norway.
Llpoh says: In the US, the folks that I would classify as police include DHS, IRS, FBI, ATF, and sundry police. Are those numbers expanding? How about their armaments? Doh!
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Bingo! re: Arming federal civilian agencies such as the EPA and Social Security Administration.
“As the U.S. engages in a national debate over the militarization of the police, federal data shows that government agencies charged with largely administrative roles are spending tens of millions of taxpayer dollars to purchase SWAT and military-style equipment.
Since FY 2006, 44 traditionally administrative agencies have spent over $71 million on items like body armor, riot helmets and shields, cannon launchers and police firearms and ammunition, according to federal spending data from watchdog group OpenTheBooks.com.”
Undaunted, how anyone could give you thumbs down on your last two posts is beyond comprehension.
I am friends with a city cop in NH, former Marine and have talked to him at length about what he would do given certain orders. His reply, – I will follow the Constitution and disobey any orders I deem against the Constitution. Maybe the next generation of cops aren’t like that due to public school “education”, or more to the point indoctrination non-education. But I pray that is not the case.
In any event, in the scenarios being considered here, I think the wild card is the gangs. Well armed roving diverse (haha) with no morality or principles or love of freedom. In that vein I leave you with this:
@Undaunted: Is that picture Winchester, Virginia, or a reference to the Winchester gun maker?
Guns. I actually have even more amazing photos than that as well as antiques. Someday you might see me on A & E’s “Hoarders”. But for tonight, I will probably just watch The Walking Dead. 🙂
Persnickety,
The ARVN were not aligned against the US. ARVN stands for Army of the Republic of Vietnam – South Vietnam.
Also, the Germans in 1944 had 5-shot bolt action rifles against 8 shot semi-autos, older fighter plane designs compared to P-51s (and P-47s, for that matter), and zero heavy bombers. They had no plane-mounted radar (ours clobbered their U-boats). Their artillery started the war being horse-drawn. They had better training, in many cases.
But all was not lost – after the war we used our money to rebuild their factories and infrastructure, which they used to make our 1920-1930s factories look stupid. The bankers know what they are doing – make money going in; make money coming out …
ILuvCO2 says: “Undaunted, how anyone could give you thumbs down on your last two posts is beyond comprehension.”
Sometimes, I think people get in a hurry and they just hit the wrong button on the widget? It’s only thing I can think of? I have done this on some of bb’s posts when he’s raging against the Jews. Or, I think El Coyote might be mad at me? We sometimes go through these periods. It’s OK.
SSS , I hope you are right about the national guard not firing on civilians. Here in the Carolinas the guard is well trained and well armed. They even have attack helicopters in some of the units. Many have been deployed numerous times in Iraq and Afghanistan.Most are home now.
SSS,
I’m aware of how your guard structure works. I think Flash responded better than I could have.
Persnickety,
I suspect that in time we would see how completely decentralized the system truly is (more so than you are suggesting even). Right down to local law enforcement and households themselves there is less continuity than either side is willing to admit. The issuing of such orders here/there would be shocking at first, many would suffer quickly and then all hell would break lose and more would suffer. As Flash is often quick to point out when it comes right down to it we are a pretty tribal species. Leadership and direction are required. Create a vacuum and everyone will eventually regret it.
SSS – BTW – I did not down arrow you.
Allegorical lesson from tonight’s fictional episode of The Walking Dead’s opening scenes: Never give up. It ain’t over till it’s over. Think on your feet, improvise and do “W.I.N.N.” (i.e. – What Is Needed Now). Oooh-rah…
@Mr. Ed:
My mistake on ARVN, I think I meant NVA. I wasn’t born yet.
Re: WW2 Germany in 1944. You said: “Also, the Germans in 1944 had 5-shot bolt action rifles against 8 shot semi-autos, older fighter plane designs compared to P-51s (and P-47s, for that matter), and zero heavy bombers. They had no plane-mounted radar (ours clobbered their U-boats).”
I was responding to someone else’s comment about the US Army of today have insect-sized robot drones and some mystery weapon that will cut houses in half. And perhaps on some procurement contract they do. Likewise, in 1944 parts of the Germany military had available to them an absolutely awesome jet interceptor, the Me-262, which was terrifying and nearly unstoppable except right after takeoff and just before landing. They had the MG-42 machinegun that was far better than our comparable guns, to the point that the US Army had a training film specifically on how to fight them without being scared shitless. This was widely deployed but ammo was not always in extensive supply. Yes, the primary RIFLE was a 5-shot bolt action compared to the 8-shot Garand semiauto, but the German troops had extensive supplies of MP-40 submachineguns, the aforementioned MG-42 and the also excellent MG-34, and limited supplies of the vastly more advanced FG-42 personal select-fire rifle and STG-44 original assault rifle. They had the relatively effective Panzerfaust individual antitank weapon. In short, they had numerous weapons that were more advanced than what was ready to field among the allies at the same time. However, many of them were not fielded due to logistics and/or destruction of German manufacturing by Allied bombing, and the ones that were fielded were not sufficient to turn the tide. That last point is my major point in response to the other poster.
If I chat with the local National Guard, or even with members of regular Army units I know, I will hear that the “insect-sized robot drones and some mystery weapon that will cut houses in half” are not actually deployed, and probably have never been seen before. Maybe 10-20 years from now they will trickle down into various units. I’ll bet they don’t end up working that well in actual use – so many of the new-technology weapons fail to really work in their first several “deployed” iterations.
Unapproved , so you’re a walking dead fan ?.Me to .I think I would have probably been a zombie by the third show.Tough life in zombie apocalypse tv land.
What a Stupid Redneck article – $shit for brains indeed ! Oh & all those “followers” (aka idiots) with their lame brained applause comments just sums up what’s wrong with your soon to be humbled USA.
Fuck wits!
bb- I guess I got hooked on the Walking Dead doom porn years ago. I find it interesting to consider post apocalyptic scenarios, even if fictional (for now).
James – keep typing your inane bullshit and you will very soon find yourself in a fetal postion, sucking your thumb in the corner of your bedroom, back in Great Britain, Norway, Switzerland, or wherever pretending it’s your own dick. Please reply.
James probably lives in Sweden and is watching his girlfriend get raped by Muslim immigrants right now and jacking off wishing it was him instead.
Guns? What a ludicrous idea. I took my savings and invested them all in the stock market. That’s where America’s Future is.
A great read. Well written. Thank you.