MORE THAN 30 BLOCKS OF FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY

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Posted on 26th February 2016 by Administrator in Economy

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“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance. No one in this world, so far as I know—and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me—has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people. Nor has anyone ever lost public office thereby.” – H.L. Mencken, Notes on Democracy

I’ve written dozens of articles about the 30 Blocks of Squalor over the years. The 30 blocks are essentially from 69th Street to 39th Street encompassing the wretched potholed route from unsafe Upper Darby through the killing fields of West Philly. The fine union government workers in the Streets Department have consistently maintained Chestnut Street in a constant state of disrepair. Not that drivers notice.

When there is an accident on the Schuylkill Expressway in the morning I’m forced to run the 30 Blocks gauntlet down Chestnut Street. I’ve had to do it a few times in recent days. The expletives flowed in waves as I hit four unmarked craters in the center lane. These were not the common everyday West Philly potholes that pock the landscape like it’s the moon. At least if you see a local resident fishing in the pothole, you can avoid it.

These four separate craters were man made, or to be honest, created by a bunch of government union drones, not refilled with blacktop or marked with an orange cone. The question is whether this is utter incompetence, blatant indifference, spite or a business transaction between government drones and local tire dealers. Luckily, government traffic engineers have been too swamped to properly time the lights on Chestnut Street for the last 20 years, so no one can travel faster than 15 mph anyway. Government lessens the pain of their ineptitude through their ineptitude in another area. They call that a win win in Philly. As the light at 57th and Chestnut remains on blinking yellow for a week, it makes you wonder what pressing issues are occupying the fine highly compensated union Streets employees.

I’ve now been navigating the crumbling ghetto of West Philly for the last ten years. I can without equivocation state I have not seen one new private business open its doors on Chestnut Street, in Mantua, or any other area I travel in West Philly during the entirety of those ten years. The existing businesses – nail and hair salons, fast food joints, bars, liquor stores, porn video outlets, smoke shops, car washes, more bars, and hysterically tax return offices (earned income tax credits) – haven’t invested a dime in keeping up their appearances. Maybe they used all their spare cash to sure up the bars on their windows and the roll down steel gates necessary to keep the upstanding neighborhood honor student juveniles from having a little fun.

It appears there is an existential shortage of paint, hammers, garbage bags, wedding rings, and employed upstanding men taking responsibility for the children they father in West Philly. There is plenty of yellow crime scene tape, as West Philly accounts for a significant portion of Philadelphia’s 280 annual murders (up 13% in 2015). Houses originally well built in the 1950s and with some upkeep would still be fine homes, are in disrepair, with collapsing porches, dilapidated gutters and roofs, crumbling sidewalks, boarded up windows, and satellite dishes on every one. The lucky end units usually have a mural of black people doing great things, with trash, garbage and overgrown weeds underneath and black people not doing great things shuffling along the streets.

 

As you witness the crumbling infrastructure of West Philly, with water mains bursting on a regular basis, streets sinking, houses falling down during heavy rainstorms, boarded up rat infested hovels housing drug addicts, and schools resembling prisons, it leaves you pondering how it came to this and why the fifty year War on Poverty left the people in these neighborhoods mover impoverished. I don’t blame the people stuck living in West Philly. I blame the corrupt politicians who have run the city for the last sixty years.

Liberal solutions based upon welfare handouts, union government workers, idiotic solutions sold by slimy politicians and high taxes have combined to create a morass of uneducated, unmotivated, unmarried people who live in squalor created by the very politicians they have been voting for over the last six decades. The city has been under the complete control of the Democratic Party the entire time.

The only things built in West Philly in the last ten years are government boondoggle projects using taxpayer money. There is a new Social Security Administration building so it’s easy to apply for SSDI because you’re overweight and depressed. There are other government social services buildings to dole out various forms of welfare to the plantation recipients. The welfare slaves don’t even notice their chains.

The government slave owners provide the bare minimum of sustenance to their ghetto slaves in return for their unquestioned voting support in elections. Obama received 98% of  West Philly votes in the last election. There is no need for private businesses, new jobs, marriage (less benefits), personal responsibility, sense of community, education, or self respect. Government knows best and has all the solutions, until they run out of producers to tax into oblivion.

I’ve previously written about the $24 million 683 parking spot garage built on top of a perfectly fine ground level parking lot at the Philadelphia zoo, totally paid for by taxpayer funds and government debt. At least it was built at a 30% union construction premium. I drive by this testament to government pork every work day. It is closed in the morning. It is closed at night. It is empty the entire winter. It is unoccupied at least 75% of the time during a given year. It will never be paid off by the minimal parking fees collected.

The privately owned parking garages in Center City are gold mines. Central Parking is highly profitable. This government created white elephant was unnecessary. The zoo gets busy on a few nice weather weekends all year. They had sufficient parking and overflow parking. It was built because the broke Federal government and the even more broke PA government forked over $16 million of taxpayer funds to create some temporary union construction jobs. It’s a complete waste of taxpayer money.

And then there is the ongoing saga of the Section 8 gated estate called Mantua Square, a $28 million, 101 townhouse, 8 store front testimonial to Keynesian idiocy that sits in the middle of an Obama Keystone Zone. As you cross the bridge on 34th Street to enter the Mantua section of West Philly, there are beautiful murals on the bridge. There are murals of colorful flowers along the entire bridge.

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I guarantee you they are the only flowers you’ll ever see in Mantua. Weeds, diseased barren trees, garbage and crumbling sidewalks is what you get in West Philly, along with an occasional dead body. Mantua Square was one of Obama’s shovel ready projects funded by his $800 billion porkulus package in 2009. Every dime came from taxpayers. It was touted as a game changer for Mantua. We were told businesses would open in the 8 pre-built retail spaces and other businesses would follow. A glorious revitalization would materialize due to brilliant government apparatchiks spending your money.

It is now 5 years later and not one storefront is occupied by a single business. Not one black entrepreneur has used their Philadelphia public school education to create a viable business and the jobs that would follow. Of course, no one living at Mantua Square would apply for a job anyway. They would lose their welfare benefits and free housing. Plus it’s only a short walk to the local church handing out free food every Thursday morning. The best part is that union construction workers spent the last six months replacing the facing of all 101 townhouse units due to shoddy union construction in the first place. No biggie. Just another couple million for the taxpayers to fund. The motto of government selected union construction firms in Philly is: “We’re slow, we’re incompetent, but at least we’re the most expensive”.

Did I mention this is gated Section 8 housing, with each unit costing over $250,000, when the median value of the hovels surrounding it is $36,000? The cars parked around this government white elephant include BMWs, Cadillacs, Lexus, and Ford F150s. I also see garbage strewn on the sidewalks, but as I pass by at 7:30 am on the way to my job I don’t see anyone rushing out of their luxury townhouses because they are late for work.

The neighborhood is still a dangerous, drug infested, decaying shithole because one off government created projects do not change the culture or the people. More welfare promotes more dependency. Young black men get murdered in that neighborhood. A young child was raped on the way to school in that neighborhood. The school across from Mantua Square has been muraled, but the kids inside are unruly and uneducated.

Every public school in the city has metal detectors to cut down on the in school murders. They can do that out on the streets, where it belongs. And despite six decades of failed policies, the politicians, teacher’s union, and liberals who run the city insist more taxpayer money will fix everything. One problem. They’ve run out of other people’s money. Maybe the money spent on useless parking garages and Section 8 estates should have been spent replacing water pipes, streets, and encouraging businesses to open in the city through lower taxes and regulations.

I stumbled across an article in the Financial Times the other day revealing why Philadelphia’s infrastructure is crumbling, with absolutely zero possibility of reversing the downward spiral. I find it fascinating a foreign publication had to uncover the ugly truth, while the liberal rag Phila. Inquirer is completely silent on the issue. They just spout the mantra of how the Feds and PA need to give Philadelphia more money. It’s always for the children. The hundreds of billions poured into the public education system in this country over the last decade has been a complete waste of time, mainly because a huge portion of the money doesn’t go towards education, but bloated pensions and administration costs.

More mediocre teachers, more government control, more social engineering, more free breakfasts and lunches, more catchy slogans and more promises have achieved steady declines in SAT scores across the board. The next solution is to phase out SAT scores. Measuring failure isn’t allowed in our politically correct, trophy generation, safe spaces world. Reporting declines in scores on a test that has been an accurate predictor of college success for generations is a micro aggression against the intellectually stunted morons being matriculated through the government run public education system. The $14,000 to $20,000 per student per year spent by the taxpayers across this country just isn’t enough according to those of a liberal ilk. The children would be smart if we just upped the ante by another $2,000 per kid. They’d hire more below average education majors into the teacher’s union. That’s a can’t miss solution.

If you think the national scores are atrocious, and they are, wait until you see the scores from the Philadelphia School District. The students who took the SAT from Philadelphia public schools “achieved” these averages:

Reading – 398 (PA average was 480)

Math – 405 (PA average was 483)

It gets even better. Only the cream of the crop even took the exam. There were 25,768 students in the Phila. public school 11th and 12th grades. Only 5,172 students even took the exam, or 20%. Based on their scores, they probably wouldn’t know how I arrived at 20%. To paraphrase George Carlin, when you see how stupid the 20% SAT takers are, just imagine how stupid the 80% who didn’t take the exam must be. The SAT score predicts your possibility of achieving a passing grade in college.

Based on the scores of the Phila. students, less than 10% of high school seniors are capable of succeeding in college. To prove how warped our higher educational system has become, there were 8,439 graduates and 54% of them enrolled in college. If you were wondering where the hundreds of billions in taxpayer funded student loans are going – here’s your answer. It’s getting doled out to functional illiterates with zero chance of succeeding in college. There’s a 100% chance you will end up paying for the billions in student loan defaults.

Despite a $2.8 billion annual budget, with over $1 billion coming from the State and Feds, the Phila. public school system is a complete and utter disaster. It is so bad the State had to seize control a few years ago by forming a commission to manage it. The buildings are dilapidated, rat infested, filled with mold, and need to be patrolled by police. Teachers are assaulted, principles fake test scores, students brawl, the learning materials are pitiful and little or no learning occurs. It begs to question, where did all the money go? Considering there are only 8,400 teachers and 300 principals, one wonders what the other 9,000 district employees actually do.

There are 199,000 public school students, but only 134,000 are in the Phila. district schools. The other 65,000 are in charter schools. The 16 to 1 student to teacher ratio equals the national average. There were 212,000 students in 2003 with less teachers. More government employees were hired even though student enrollment declined 6%. The teacher’s union doesn’t care about the children. They care about getting their teachers as much as possible, and they’ve done a phenomenal job getting below average teachers gold plated benefits and pensions. The government unions use their voting power over the Democrat politicians to shakedown the taxpayers.

It’s a perfect storm of governmental incompetence, union greed, political corruption, parental disinterest, societal disintegration, and poor life choices, creating the downfall of Philadelphia and other urban enclaves around the country. The Phila. public school system consists of 80% minorities (60% black, 20% hispanic). Over 75% of the population in West Philly is black.

Over 71% of the black kids in West Philly are born out of wedlock. Only 17% of all households are occupied by married couples, while 40% are single mother households. The black men of West Philly are the primary culprits for this ongoing cesspool of ignorance, dependence, crime, and hopelessness. The disregard and scorn for the institution of marriage is a major reason for the median household income wallowing at $26,000, over 50% below the national average.

You get more of what you incentivize and the warped welfare policies in this country incentivize the people of West Philly to not get married and not work. So they don’t. The best method to succeed in life is through higher education. It leads to higher lifetime income. Children from married households do better in school. Married couples also have a much better chance of producing higher household income. Marriage increases the odds of success tremendously for the married couple and their children. The residents of West Philly are caught in an inescapable cycle of poverty, exacerbated by the government welfare policies supposed to help them.

The Financial Times article details why spending on essential infrastructure needs has been ignored and why the future is even bleaker. Government worker pension funds across the nation are in deep trouble, with no chance of honoring their promises. Public pension plans have promised to pay out $4.7 trillion more than they have on hand. Every U.S. citizen would have to pitch in $15,000 to pay every government worker’s promised pension. It’s not gonna happen.

Black Rock, the world’s largest money manager, expects 85% of U.S. public pensions to fail over the next three decades. Certain state pensions are ridiculously underfunded, with Illinois only able to cover 22% of its promised payments, Connecticut only 23%, and Kentucky only 24%. The Central States Pension Fund, which manages almost $18 billion for 400,000 workers in 37 states recently was forced to cut benefit payments by as much as 61%. Retirees currently getting monthly checks for $3,000 will only get $1,180 now.

This will happen to every government pension fund in the country because math is hard. Politicians promised government union workers more than they could ever deliver in order to secure their votes. Any government worker counting on these promises from corrupt politicians should acquire a taste for cat food and get used to setting their heat at 55 degrees in the winter. The City of Philadelphia has one of the worst pension schemes in the country. It is mathematically unsustainable, but no politician or union boss would ever utter those words to the citizens of their city. They’ll just lie until its too late.

And it’s even worse than the published numbers. According to its actuaries, the City pension owes government workers $10.5 billion, with only $4.8 billion of assets. The annual return assumption of 7.5% is ridiculously overstated. With bonds and stocks priced to deliver 0% returns over the next ten years, the pension is really underfunded by at least $8 billion and not the reported $5.7 billion. The retirement payouts to the 64,000 current and former government employees will eventually be slashed dramatically. It’s just a matter of time.

According to FT:

The fund lost almost 20% in 2009 in the midst of the financial crisis. Overall, however, it has performed well, returning 7.4% a year on average since 1995, making its huge deficit all the more surprising. The pension contributions are eating up more and more of the city’s budget, leaving less money to spend on services such as the fire brigade, police and recycling. The cost of pension contributions has increased from 6% of the city’s budget to 15% over the past decade.

The contractually required pension contributions are on automatic pilot to consume 20% of the city budget over the next five years, and the plan will still be underfunded by 60% to 70%. The average pension plan in the U.S. is “only” underfunded by 25%. Rather than deal with reality, city politicians have funded the pension deficits with higher sales taxes and cigarette taxes, further punishing their poorest citizens. As pensions account for an ever larger share of the city budget, the infrastructure of the city and schools will continue to crumble. Businesses and the producer class will continue to flee the city as taxes are relentlessly raised to honor union worker contracts. The downward spiral will accelerate.

FT was flabbergasted by the ridiculous nature of a plan created by corrupt politicians and greedy unions:

Despite the strain the pension fund puts on the city’s services, the scheme paid out a bonus to its members last year. Under the city’s rules, when the fund performs better than its target, some retirees get a bonus. In 2014, the scheme returned 15.7%, double its target. The bonus payout is one of the few topics Mr Dubow seems reluctant to discuss — notably whether it is controversial to pay bonuses to retired members when the scheme has less than half the money it needs for those actively paying into it. He cautiously responds that this is a requirement of the fund and will not discuss the matter further.

Heads the union workers win, tails the taxpayer loses. When the market does well select high level retirees get bonus payments, but when the market performs below expectations there is no penalty for those same retirees. The fiscal debacle destroying Philadelphia was willfully constructed over decades by corrupt politicians, incompetent bureaucrats, greedy government unions, and a foolish citizenry who believed the lies and were too ignorant to do the math. A city run by welfare redistributionists eventually runs out of other people’s money. The wisest citizen in Philadelphia history understood the danger of creating a welfare culture 250 years ago. He was a big supporter of education (founded the University of Pennsylvania) and lifting yourself up by your bootstraps to succeed in life. Too bad his wisdom was not heeded.

“I am for doing good to the poor, but…I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed…that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”

Benjamin Franklin

 

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221 Comments
  1. SpecOpsAlpha says:

    When the SNAP cards stop working and when the welfare checks stop being deposited for lack of funds, that will be when we see the real life ‘Walking Dead’, only the ravenous eaters will move a lot faster and will have rat-like intelligence.

    Be armed or be harmed.

     

    26th February 2016 at 8:39 am

  2. flash says:

    …not rising then? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4MLEVVUkj0

     

    26th February 2016 at 8:47 am

  3. Ouirphuqd says:

    I woke up refreshed this morning, read the above essay and felt tired. Philadelphia and the whole NE corridor is all the same, a race to the bottom for progressive control. The destruction is willful and purposeful. It keeps the natives in line and the pols with a steady constituency. This is dystopia now, with the rest of our Republic to follow. The collapse is proceeding as planned, Obama knows exactly what he is doing!

     

    26th February 2016 at 8:49 am

  4. hardscrabble farmer says:

    I love these essays, but I bet the Philadelphia in-crowd seethes whenever this comes up on an Internet search. My first real job at 17 was repo’ing rental TV’s in West Philly. For a kid from the rural part of NJ seeing up close and personal how life is really lived in the urban ghettos was an eye opener.

    Every time I read an update I thank God for having the sense to get as far away from that as possible.

    Thanks again for the update.

     

    26th February 2016 at 8:58 am

  5. stanley says:

    A lot to ponder here. I’m not entirely sure that the Philly bureaucrats are to blame for all of it?

    So much money is needed for pensioners to pay for their lives – that is housing, medical care, and food.

    Life necessities prices are being exorbitantly inflated by the federal government which subsidizes big pharma, big agra, big insurance, big medical, and big bankers. Government has guaranteed these industry’s profits through regulatory capture.

    But no one except big government. can afford to pay these behemoth money pits anymore. The snake is eating its own tail.

    It’s a much bigger problem than just Philly and will require a much bigger solution. Or a much bigger collapse cataclysm.

    That which cannot be paid will not be paid. No one is asking why those doing the billing are not being held accountable for their costs, expenses, and extractionary cartel profiteering?

    The whole system is rotten to the core. Philly is just a middleman.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:01 am

  6. Administrator says:

    Stanley

    Average Philadelphia teacher salary – $70,789.54

    This is before benefits and gold plated pension.

    Are the kids getting this much bang for their buck?

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:05 am

  7. Administrator says:

    In March, PA Independent reported that nearly 400 employees of the school districts make salaries in excess of $100,000, even after the layoffs. Because the SDP has a budgeting system where schools are charged the average cost for each staff position instead of the actual cost of a specific employee, it’s impossible to determine how many employees have a total compensation exceeding $100,000.

    Below the levels of administrators and teachers, pay is still fairly good for school staff.

    A non-teaching assistant makes $73,300 in salary and benefits, while a classroom assistant doubles his or her salary by taking in more in benefits. The average salary for that position is $26,500, while benefits are worth $28,500.

    The increasing cost of benefits are reflected in multiple parts of the district’s budget for next year.

    The 2014-2015 budget anticipates an 8 percent increase in medical insurance costs. A member of the PFT receives $13,829.34 in medical benefits. A non-represented employee receives $1,200 less.

    But the biggest cost drivers are increasing pension payments.

    An average middle school teacher earning a salary of $71,600 can expect a $700 bump in pay next year, according to the district’s guide. But, for that same teacher, the district is planning to pay $15,400 into the Public School Employees’ Retirement System next year, up from $12,090 this year, as the mandatory employer contributions increase.

    Without legislative changes, the employer contributions to the PSERS plan will continue to increase over the next few years and will not decline substantially until the 2030s.

    According to a report by Robert Costrell, a professor of economics and education reform at the University of Arkansas, the district was spending about $900 per pupil to cover the cost of pensions in 2011. By 2020, the district will spend $2,300 per student for its employees retirement plans.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:09 am

  8. flash says:

    Th only truthful thing the harpy ever said in her long nefarious public career.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:02 am

  9. Dutchman says:

    A significant percentage of Neegrows have: 85 IQ, lack cause and effect thinking, don’t understand the consequences of their actions, have no drive to succeed, have no concern about tomorrow since their life is hollow.

    We have to admit they are more like chimps – we gotta get that DNA out of them.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:27 am

  10. flash says:

    nobody coulda’ known…..musta’ never attended an integrated public school system..

    Confessions of a Public Defender
    As a young lawyer, I believed the official story that blacks are law abiding, intelligent, family-oriented people, but are so poor they must turn to crime to survive. Actual black behavior was a shock to me.

    http://www.amren.com/features/2014/05/confessions-of-a-public-defender/

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:33 am

  11. Thaisleeze says:

    This report is an eye opener for me.

    Is organised crime involved with any of the unions?

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:44 am

  12. Administrator says:

    Organized crime has little to do with the union issue. They were much bigger in the 1970’s. The unions have the politicians in their back pocket.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:52 am

  13. kokoda says:

    I always read 30 Blocks; once total liabilities (including future for x period) exceed revenue, politicos must attack the problem – but they never do, except for increasing taxes, which is an impediment to growth.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:48 am

  14. Albrecht says:

    “The black men of West Philly are the primary culprits for this ongoing cesspool of ignorance, dependence, crime, and hopelessness.”

    Well, it takes two to tango. If you repopulated West (or North) Philadelphia with government subsidized feral cats it would hardly look any worse (though it would be a hell of a lot safer).

    It has twice been my privilege recently to drive down Broad Street from Cheltenham to Temple University. One marvels at miles of once beautiful but now moldering and crime-infested neighborhoods rotting into the ground. Numerous homes along this once thriving major avenue are missing windows or their roofs are open to the sky. If you turn off Broad to the right or the left (I don’t recommend it) it just gets worse. You wonder how long it will be before you can stand in the middle of most any street in North Philly and see clear to City Hall.

    Still towering above this filth are massive glorious church buildings, testifying to the diligence and integrity of the original inhabitants. And to think, most of those people had little more in the way of financial resources than the current residents. They just knew how to work and bathe and could restrain themselves from uncontrolled fucking.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:52 am

  15. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    The 30 blocks essay saga is something to behold and fills me with joy because I know that somewhere right now a person who supports these failed policies is reading this and trying to poke a holes in argument. I said yesterday in another thread that we as a society have spent the last 40 or 50 years focused on identity politics and the intersections of oppression heaped on this underclass and others. Instead of focusing on and celebrating merit and individual responsibility we have instead split everyone according to race, gender and the books they read. Marxist ideology has infected every aspect of our nations. No longer self reliant and independent West Philly is what is wrong with liberal world we live in boiled to it’s essence. This article should be read by every do-gooder. Even after reading it the vast majority of liberals would refuse to admit things are rotten to the core. It seems to only way to fix it is to tear it down. But we know this won’t happen. Instead it will be a death due to indifference. The place will end up hollowed out much like Detroit. Houses left to fall back to ground. The streets taken over once again by trees and wildlife. The bears and raccoons the only ones working for a living.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:56 am

  16. Jim says:

    The elephant in the room are the out of control public employee salaries/pensions/benefits with no correlation to performance. In Cleveland Heights, the inner ring, formerly nice suburb where I reside, virtually every administrator, principal, asst. principal, and teacher with any experience is earning $100,000 plus. The superintendent of the schools is earning $200,000 plus and this is for a suburban district with 7,000 students. This suburb boasts the 2nd highest property tax in state with a bottom 5% ranking in achievement tests. This pathetic and sobering scenario has resulted in white flight and homes formerly worth $100-$500,000 now being worth about half that value at best, what they were formerly worth. This is coming to a suburb near you. Vote for Hilary! Out.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:58 am

  17. Administrator says:

    50 highest paid Phila city employees

    http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/news/2015/04/23/50-highest-paid-city-employees-some-may-surprise.html

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:00 am

  18. Administrator says:

    Philadelphia spends nearly $400,000 on salaries for three elected city commissioners to oversee the dozens of city employees who prepare year-round for elections.

    That is $100,000 more than is allotted for New York City’s 10 commissioners, who oversee a system more than four times larger than Philadelphia’s.

    Chicago also spends much less ($246,819) than Philadelphia on its three elections commissioners.

    And across the state, Allegheny County, which includes Pittsburgh, spends $108,000 on the three members of the election board, who also have other county legislative and administrative duties.

    Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20160222_Compared_with_others__Phila__spends_more_on_election_commissioners.html#dCoAJI6RHr4Zao1j.99

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:06 am

  19. ragman says:

    What’s the BFD? Hil was right! Solution? Get as far away from them as possible, limit your exposure and if you absolutely MUST be around them, be armed and in Cooper’s “Condition Yellow” at a minimum.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:09 am

  20. Anonymous says:

    Put the people on welfare, break up their families to do it, remove responsibility of men to their families and fatherhood, take away the self respect and dignity of work and being self supporting, and blame it on everyone else and this is what your get.

    This is the future of our country -or any country- under liberalism.

    It’s the essential preparatory step to bringing on the next phase of a collapsed civilization where the people bear the same relationship to the ruling class that cattle do to ranchers.

    And that ruling class will not the degenerate one we have now, it will be a new and far less benign one.

    It’s probably too late to stop it so start preparing yourself and your family for it.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:09 am

  21. Stucky says:

    This is a very racist article.

    The author needs to show more compassion. I think he should read the book “Black Like Me”. To truly understand the plight of the black man, one must first walk in their shoes.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:23 am

  22. Administrator says:

    Author showing compassion


     

    26th February 2016 at 10:26 am

  23. Anonymous says:

    I am undecided on which post was harder to experience, this one, or yesterdays ducks walking the highway. Both filled me with dread.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:31 am

  24. Paulo says:

    They pay Philly teachers that rate because they have to either live or work there. Would you teach in a school there for less than that? 5-6 years university, then you start on a lower salary grid than what you state in your essay (believe me), (not the $70,000 mentioned), ride it out for years, and hope you get some kids who want to work. Every parent thinks their little Johnny is smart and should be a doctor when he is merely another lazy or avearge ability phone addicted adolescent. If you try and smarten them up they tell you to fuck off, (at the very least). If you give them a good tune-up you can and will be recorded. I remember when I first started teaching I had a dick in one of my math classes. I took him out in the hallway and threatened him…he believed me and worked harder. I see him today, twenty years later, and he buys me a beer. He owns his own fishing lodge.

    I don’t know about you folks, but as a 60 year old when I look back at school it was a different scene. I was a dick in school, but I took my punishments as due, and without a whimper. Why? Because if my folks got a call home from the school the conversation with my parents started out with, “Okay, what on earth did you do this time. You did what???” If I whined about it or caused any more trouble I would get worse punishment. My parents accepted the school was doing their best and backed them as they backed my family and parents. Nowadays, the same conversation will begin, “And what did she say? You don’t have to take that shit from her, why I’m going in there to see the principal and…..” Or, “Homework?, you get enough to do in class”. “We’re going on vacation next week, you’ll just have to get the test rescheduled”.

    Yes, Mr. Cavinni broke a 3/4″ paddle across my ass when I screwed up his Spanish lesson for the umpteenth time. He brought me in from the hallway and held up the broken paddle to the class. The kids cheered, and not one tear or comment was seen from me. Not one complaint was made to my parents because I asked for it, big time. If that happened today the teacher would be jailed, and the kid would be on TV.

    Think of the Affluenza kid from Texas….his mom, that is what many parents are like. Certainly not all, but many. I taught electronics for about 6 years. I had one mom phone me up about 18 months after I had her child and she demanded I change and raise his grade. (The kid was in grade 12, for Christ’s sake). I simply chuckled and told her I was already fair if not generous with the mark and that there would be no changes. I assume she called the admin, but they always backed me because I had everything in line and squared away.

    Yes, there are many fine students and most kids are going to do just great when they move on. But while in school they are walking hormones often lacking guidance from home. Many girls walk around in skirts short enough to show their ass crack and all ALL are addicted to their phones. Many have a sense of entitlement and see no reason why they have to work for their marks.

    You know your WalMart Freaks of the Week? They have kids. It is certainly harder to get a drivers license than it is to get pregnent, and yes they have kids. It just takes some wonder wine and backseat or empty apartment. Their kids also have babies, often while still in school. I have taught those chidren and have done the best that I could for them, every fucking day.

    I am a journeyman carpenter, a ten thousand hour accident-free commercial pilot, a recently certified structural welder and I also taught school for 17 years (grades 5-12…most subjects). Obviously, I did several of these jobs at the same time and worked year round, often every weekend and certainly all summers. It is why I retired at 57, not because of of my teaching wage (that just paid the day to day bills), but because I worked my C*%t off and invested wisely. I arrived to work (school) at 6:30 am and stayed until 3:30-4:00. I did my marking on the kitchen table at night and if I had big tests to do I would mark them on a shitty weather day over the weekends or over the holidays. I do have a pension, (and it is privately controlled by an overseeing board because our Govt had a nasty habit of borrowing the money for mega-projects until it was stopped in the early ’70s)…anyway, I do have a pension of $1554/month…which I paid into for 17 years for an average contribution of $1,000 per month. Membership is/was mandatory, it is in a healthy condition with adequate assets. If it one day tanks, the Govt will not bail it out as they have little control or influence upon it. Hands off works both ways.

    My point is: I have built houses, apartments, commercial space, even a fish hatchery and dam. I have flown all across Canada’s north and on the west coast…from Cessnas to Twin Otters, sometimes working 100 days straight (the old days). I completed most of my university by correspondence, until I had to leave my family for most of two years in order to specialize. I completed a Masters program at Royal Roads University over two summers with year round course work, while working full time. All of this with no student loans and while I supported my family and paid down on the mortgage.

    The hardest job of my career, the most soul destroying, but curiously the most rewarding, was teaching. I was good at it and glad to have done it. I learned a lot about myself and people along the way. My 32 year old son asked me the other day what I thought of myself as, (besides being a Father and Dad)? Was I a builder, a pilot, or a teacher? I thought about it for a bit and finally concluded I am a builder. I love and live to build, every day of my life. But teaching was still the hardest job, bar none.

    So fuck off with your jibes and comments about teachers, already. It is people like you that drive good people out of the profession. Enron had some shitty accountants, right? They’re not all like that so give it a fucking break. When kids hear from their parents comments like yours they come to school with a jaded and ‘I don’t have to listen to you’ attitude. It is one reason why it is going down the tubes. The lack of respect in all facets of society is pervasive. It is also destructive.

    Thanks for letting me swear.

    regards

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:32 am

  25. Administrator says:

    Paulo

    Go fuck yourself. The teachers in Philly suck. They’re overpaid. The kids don’t have fucking parents. They have two ignorant people who fucked and produced them. For a former teacher you don’t even comprehend the article. I guess that’s par for the course.

    It’s not people like me who drive good people out of the profession. It’s the liberal do-gooders and their Welfare State who create the atmosphere of failure and ignorance. The kids in West Philly don’t hear shit from people like me. They’re too busy listening to rap, doing drugs, and impregnating bitches.

    You’re an idiot. I understand why you were a failed teacher.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:48 am

  26. ottomatik says:

    last was I

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:34 am

  27. Suzanna says:

    Admin,

    Passionate piece to be sure. There are 1000 issues one could

    cite for fraud, corruption, and waste occurring in these cities

    named above. And, there really is no solution to these

    entrenched “problems.”

    What to do? (don’t slap me) Get out. It is only money. Sell your

    lovely home, while you can get a good price. Commute to work.

    Pay cash for a decent house…and get away from all that stress!

    It isn’t cowardly. It is difficult to make a new life, but you can do it.

    There will be hell to pay when the food trucks stop rolling in, and

    many are predicting that is going to happen. Oh well, maybe you

    already have a stocked cottage in the country but are keeping quiet

    about it. Good Luck.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:36 am

  28. Administrator says:

    Suzanna

    I don’t live anywhere near Philadelphia. I live in the far northern suburbs among multiple dairy farms. No need to move.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:42 am

  29. NobodysaysBOO says:

    SAD DEAL the CITIZENS deserve a BETTER DEAL! SOON !!
    Hillary and every other politician running for president what’s EVERYTHING to stay as it is today EXCEPT TRUMP and Sanders.
    LOOK for MORE aliens and crime if the criminals in the government are not fired to in prison.

    The street crime is in a lot of US town and cities. The huge un/under employment scam is hurting everyone. The pukes in the town governments do a lot of these crimes themselves and get off with no problems. The fraud and theft is amazing, I know of people who have had their family businesses stolen by city workers and supervisors, they make an offer to buy the successful bussines always a LOW PRICE then if you do not sell to them they tear up the stress if front and refuse to repair it until AFTER the business goes broke or sells then they fix the roads.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:38 am

  30. Gator says:

    This is your best 30 blocks yet. Id like to see a supposedly knowledgable liberal try to poke holes in it, or maybe have a debate. Although that’s probably not necessary. I can already tell you what any Bernie supporter would say – it’s “capitalism’s” fault. Maybe westy will show up and confirm for me.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:44 am

  31. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    It is people like you that drive good people out of the profession.

    Come on Paulo. There are loads of people who drive teachers out of profession. I don’t see how pointing out how the system is broken encourages teachers to quit. If they quit because of an article like this then so what. Snowflakes shouldn’t be teachers. So you don’t like the piece because you worked hard and deserve your pension. Sounds like you did work hard. But so have I. What is your point. Strawman or logical fallacy, I’m not certain. Seeing as you are a teacher maybe you can tell me. The problem is and has been that politicians and unions conspired to promise themselves pension eons ago that they wouldn’t have to fund at time knowing full well when bill came due others would have to pay.

    Well Cheque Please!

    wiz_zpsezzyzqnc.jpg

    I hear it a lot. I have a good friend who is a teacher. Says much the same things as you. Lack of accountability of students, parents society at large, lack of money for books. You know the usual lists of moans and groans. But cast the light towards themselves and then it isn’t fair. You consider this an attack on profession. I don’t think it is. If you are offended so what! All Admin is doing is pulling back the curtain. If you don’t like what you see I suspect there isn’t much Admin or anyone else can do to help you.

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:12 am

  32. Bob says:

    Paulo, congratulations on your career. It is people like you, the builders, who make the world work and give it a chance to become a better place.

    Having said that, Admin’s point is that people like you are a small percentage of the teacher workforce. Most say pay is the issue in the teaching profession being populated with so many mediocrities. This is not true. Teaching is the most lucrative part-time job available. It is ineffectively marketed as such, and many people who enter the profession expecting normal pay advancement prospects become sadly disillusioned. The problem is that there is and always will be a shortage of bright, driven, motivated, ambitious people who are willing to settle for the reward structure the teaching profession offers. Instead, it attracts too many people who are content to repeat the same work year after year for small incremental increases in pay, trading prospects of significant advancement for comprehensive benefits, 17+ weeks of vacation/holidays per year, and a pension at the back end that replaces a majority of their salary. The pay system rewards and reinforces a mindset of mediocrity in which every teacher with the same amount of experience makes the same amount of money, relative competence be damned.

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:21 am

  33. Musket says:

    In 1992 I read a great book by James Dale Davidson and Lord William Rees-Moog titled; “The Great Reckoning How To Protect Yourself in the Upcoming Depression”. A quick synopsis is that the social policies of the collective American government structure combined with the market manipulation cycles would bring this nation to utter destruction starting in the inner cities. After reading the series 30 Blocks on The Burning Platform I conclude that we are there and it is time to take care of family and friends and eschew the classless clowns who’s very lives define depredation as a lifestyle. These people will get even more morose an spiteful when they finally realize that the influx of illegals is designed to replace them as the standard bearing voting block of the Marxist-Leninists who currently control the government. A vote for any democrat and some republicans is a sure bet to keep this travesty headed in its current direction and at higher speeds.

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:22 am

  34. Jim says:

    I am so tired of crying public school teacher and city service drones crying about teaching in the big city and how they “earn” every dollar. They work 8 MONTHS OF THE YEAR. I always laugh when I hear how hard these positions are. Let me clue them in: I work on a 100% commission basis. I do the work and if a deal doesn’t happen I don’t get paid. Period. And thats for specking my time 12 months a year with NO salary. I always tell my public school teacher aquaintances (Note not friends) because most are leeches, this scenario and IT ALWAYS shuts them up. They have no concept of no guaranteed salary or easy money. Its just that simple.

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:23 am

  35. Administrator says:

    Here’s my classic More Than 30 Blocks of Grey & Decay from 2012. It pissed off a lot of Paulos too.

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/2012/05/23/more-than-30-blocks-of-grey-decay/

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:28 am

  36. Overthecliff says:

    The only excuse the teachers have is that you cannot turn shit into ice cream.

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:35 am

  37. Suzanna says:

    Thank you so much Admin,

    I stand corrected and very reassured.

    Your long posts, backed by facts and figures are

    great reading/appreciated. Women always appreciate

    strong alpha men. Your family is lucky.

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:40 am

  38. kramdrof says:

    Paulo and ADMIN both hit the mark, oddly enough. They appear to be in disagreement, but looking at the big picture they are both correct to a degree.
    Follow both arguments to their logical conclusion (or rather beginning) and you will see they both arrive at the same problem.
    I had and have enormous respect for my teachers from High School (1990’s). Since then I have had children go through school, and I must readily admit that I had very little respect for most of them today.
    At some point, two things happened and they both hit upon it. we parents became less involved in our children at school while at the same time the honorable profession of teaching became more about the money than about teaching children.
    The first can also be correlated to the second… look at the rate of real inflation since 1971. It has gotten to the point that both parents MUST work to provide a good living in most cases which leaves us little time to be involved at our children’s schools. I am by no means saying this is right, but it is honest nonetheless. to make up for it, we have created a group of parents that side with their children no matter what the true facts are. I believe this is out of guilt from the former.
    I will never doubt that my teachers taught me because they LOVED to teach. I met only 2 or 3 such teachers after have 3 children go through 12 years each. It is now ALL ABOUT THE MONEY in many cases. what a horrible motivator.
    I do not know the fix, but to have any chance we must get our priorities straight: promote marriage, promote the teachers right to control their own classroom, bring education back to the States where we can go to the STATE HOUSE and lodge our complaints instead of Washington D.C., Put family values above the big house and fancy cars, get back on the gold standard to control inflation so we can have a parent at home for our kids. the fault is not with any one person or idea. The true fault is with all of us who have been asleep for far too long and assumed our Governments were on our side. They are not and have not been for a very long time.

     

    26th February 2016 at 12:45 pm

  39. kramdrof says:

    Correction: my high school days were 1980’s… (too quick on the keys, please don’t tell my typing teacher!)

     

    26th February 2016 at 12:46 pm

  40. Peaceout says:

    I love the Franklin quote at the end of Admins epic essay:

    “I am for doing good to the poor, but…I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed…that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”
    Benjamin Franklin

    This quote oozes common sense and wisdom and should be the basis for how this country treats the impoverished, but, alas, sadly that train left the station decades ago.

     

    26th February 2016 at 12:49 pm

  41. Homer says:

    It reminds me of East Germany when the West German government unified. The Communists had totally ruined East Germany. The infrastructure was a shit hole of negligence. There were parts that still showed scars from WWII. What money that was there was pilfered by the ruling elite.

    This is the problem with Socialism. It destroys jobs. It destroys economies.

    Someone wrote about what the world would look like after the collapse. There were ‘Abandon Areas’, mostly cities, where no one goes because of the danger.

    No jobs, no hope, no future, no care. NAFTA, PPT–Ross Perot was right and the voters were wrong. Stupidly wrong and are paying a high price as low paying entry jobs go to Mexico and China. Multi-national corporations have unbalanced the economic system for increased profits.

    If Chris Martenson is right about Peak Resources, then I can understand why those in the know are scrambling to the lifeboats while the majority of Americans, undeterred, stand on deck watching the ship of state slowly sinking into cesspool of societal disintergration.

    This cycle is coming to an end and chaos reigns. The bulwarks of civilized life, morality, law, lawful money, regard for life and the environment are failing. East Philly is a snapshot of the future for many Americans as we descend in to 3 world status. Sorry, Americans should have made better choices.

     

    26th February 2016 at 1:12 pm

  42. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    I do get a kick out of our pal Paulo. He gets all butt hurt at admin for attacking teachers and education profession yet in same breath he is making broad generalizations of students and parents in modern day. Just projection in my opinion. What a hypocrite!

     

    26th February 2016 at 1:13 pm

  43. Homer says:

    Aside from war, nothing destroys a civilized society as does Fiat Paper Money. And it does it
    thoroughly.

    Fiat money was an attempt to get something for nothing. It was inherently dishonest. It is inherently evil. The problems of America, the World, can be laid at the feet of Fiat Money. It’s corrupting influence has permeated all levels of meaningful economic interaction. It is destroying the very glue that binds civilization.

    It is the great destroyer.

    West Philly is just a casualty in this ensuing epic drama

     

    26th February 2016 at 1:51 pm

  44. harry p. says:

    maff iz hurd…

    all i can say is there are going to be a lot of feral low intellect angry scumbags in the future. arm yourself accordingly.

    rule#1: there is no such thing as too much ammo
    rule#2: see rule#1

     

    26th February 2016 at 2:04 pm

  45. Homer says:

    You need to read Chris Martenson’s posted piece by Charles Hugh Smith–“How The Seeds Of Revolution Take Root”.

    http://www.peakprosperity.com/blog/96174/how-seeds-revolution-take-root

     

    26th February 2016 at 2:20 pm

  46. kokoda says:

    Admin…I clicked on your 2012 link and read it. There were an amazing 220 comments.

    However, your writing has greatly improved. This current posting won’t get anywhere near the 2012 comments of 220, but your current content and style is obviously due to practice of the art.

     

    26th February 2016 at 2:23 pm

  47. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Yeah I too just got back from 2012 link. Epic liberal smackdown. Anyways is miss AWD. Maybe a montage of some of his best posts is in order. As for 30 blocks I was wondering, has ZH picked this one up as well? Rest assured there will be someone that stumbles here if it does. Always it would be nice to take a newbie for a spin around the block. Besides it’s Friday and I haven’t been called a racist this week. Feeling a little down.

     

    26th February 2016 at 2:57 pm

  48. IndenturedServant says:

    Paulo, I’d bet that most of the students and teachers in Philly that “might” be offended by admins article could not pass a reading comprehension test about the article.

     

    26th February 2016 at 2:58 pm

  49. nkit says:

    Another episode of “Thirty Blocks of Squalor in Zaire”…good shit Admin!

     

    26th February 2016 at 3:16 pm

  50. Homer says:

    There is an undercurrent in America. An undercurrent of despair. It’s signature is everywhere. People are looking to non politicians rather than the political elite. Obama came to office promising ‘change you can believe in’, an outsider’s promise. Trump is claiming outsider status and promising ‘change you can believe in’. Despite the attacks, Trump has rallied support.

    The middle class is being decimated by economic conditions, loss of real jobs, added taxes (Obama Care, etc.) ZIRP policy of the government and FED, and soon to be enacted NIRP and bail-ins. People watch as money flow to the top 1% of the population. People are sensing that up-ward mobility is being lost and along with it a chance for a better life. Millennials are debt ridden with college loans that seem unpayable in the present economy.

    People are looking for real change and abandoning the political status quo and the elitists. The gulf between the insiders and the outsiders (us) is widening. This bodes badly as the political class and the elitists clamp down on the unwashed many. Class warfare is coming. The ‘Tea Party’ was just the beginning, Baltimore and Ferguson are ripples in the fabric of the status quo. The Natives are restless. It is India all over again.

    As the political class and elitists move to draconian means to protect their unwarranted privilege in the mist of a changing paradigm, they will encounter failure as they lose the support of the greater number. They are entrenched in their privilege and see not the encroaching tidal wave of humanity about to wrest their power and privilege from them. The Internet with its free exchange of ideas will be their great undoing. I wouldn’t be doing a victory dance as the ensuing battle will be bloody.

    I hope you read Chris Martenson’s post. There is power in History.

     

    26th February 2016 at 3:45 pm

  51. IraK says:

    For a change, I want to offer a few good words in favor of Philadelphia’s teachers.

    They have to teach or be in school 191 1/2 days a year. That’s about 21 days per month for nine months.

    Only 97% of a teacher and teacher’s dependents health care premiums are paid by the school district.

    Teachers get only 10 paid sick/personal leave days per year which can be carried over from year to year. They get only four additional professional leave and 15 additional military leave days.

    Retirement benefits at 57 with 35 years of service and a master’s degree are only $69,300/year.

    Otherwise teachers aren’t provided with a car, they get no clothing allowance, and they get no on-the-job meals.

     

    26th February 2016 at 4:00 pm

  52. [email protected] says:

    1) I lived in Kenya 80-81, which was my 3rd year of college. Kenya is technically a 3rd world country but only the Mathare Valley (where Obama’s half brother lives) looks like this. The rest of Kenya, while poor, did not look like this.

    2) This is what several decades of liberal progressive control looks like. You can superimpose metro Atlanta, Cincinnati, Cleveland, South Side Chicago, Harlem, etc and it is always the same story – poverty, illiteracy, crime and general decay.

    Feel the Bern and bring this to the rest of the FUSA.

     

    26th February 2016 at 4:00 pm

  53. Homer says:

    Paulo–Just because you worked hard and sacrificed, what make you think you deserve it? After all you didn’t get where you are, others got you there, just ask Obama.

     

    26th February 2016 at 4:06 pm

  54. Dis Nigga says:

    kramdrof says: (too quick on the keys, please don’t tell my typing teacher!)

    What’s a typing teacher, did you mean keyboarding teacher?

     

    26th February 2016 at 4:32 pm

  55. Dis Nigga says:

    Do they still have cursive teachers in the Squalor Zone?

     

    26th February 2016 at 4:33 pm

  56. Dis Nigga says:

    Stucky says: I think he should read the book “Black Like Me”.

    Elpidio: Hey, Phil, have you seen the movie,”The Haunting” ?
    Phil: I’m living it.

     

    26th February 2016 at 4:41 pm

  57. Homer says:

    Stucky, I read “Black Like Me” by Griffin and Bonazzi when it first came out. I probably still have the book in boxes of stored books under the house. Eye opening in those times.

    When I was very young in the ’40’s, I lived in a confluence of several racial ethnicities. One one corner were Asians, mainly Chinese and on another Negros and on another Whites.

    There was a young Negro boxer that would jog around the neighborhood and we neighborhood kids would follow behind him jogging in a line. I became friends with his family. They lived in the same building that I did.

    At Christmas time, the father or grandfather, I don’t remember which, drove out to the wood to cut down a Christmas tree and he invited me along. After we, he, had cut down the tree and loaded it on the roof of the car, we drove back.

    We stopped at the A & W rootbeer on 125th Street and Aurora, north of Seattle, Seattle at that time only went to 85th Street. We went in and he bought me a rootbeer float. It cost a quarter. We sat at the stools at the counter. He was a good man.

    I was color blind, then, and still am today. I often thought about how that must have looked. A small white boy at the counter with a much older black man drinking a rootbeer float. Despite being poor (which never occurred to me), those were happy times.

    When I was a few years older, I was walking in front of the Monkey Bars which were in front of my apartment and a negro boy about my age was playing on it. I flippantly called out, “Hey, Nigger”. I didn’t mean it in racist way more in a sense of levity.

    Well, he climbed down from those Monkey Bars and came over and ‘cleaned my clock’ for me. It seems that the lessons I learned in life have come rather hard for me. It seems to me that respect earns respect and if you don’t get it, it is because you don’t deserve it.

     

    26th February 2016 at 5:52 pm

  58. Araven says:

    I always read Homer’s comments. They’re usually interesting and I usually agree with him, but that’s not why I always read Homer’s comments. I always read Homer’s comments because my grandpa’s name was Homer and after nearly 40 years I still miss him.

    I wonder what comments my grandpa would have on TBP topics like this. My grandpa fought in the Great War. He didn’t talk about it much, but he was in the infantry in France. One thing that he did tell us is that he was in a camp next to a graveyard. He would crawl out of his tent at night and go sleep in the graveyard because it was cooler, at least that’s what he said. My grandpa raised a family during the Great Depression. He had a small farm with chickens and a cow or two, so they always had food even if they had little else. He was also a carpenter and he left the running of the farm to his wife and children at times and went off to the city to join one of the work programs and bring home some cash. He did what he had to do to provide for his family. He only had an 8th grade education, but when he retired he read everything he could get his hands on so by the time I knew him it seemed like he knew everything. I remember when I was 12 I was having trouble putting something together, I don’t remember what, but he leaned over and with a casual flick fixed it for me. So much strength in those gnarled old fingers.

    Strength, intelligence, perseverance, wisdom. What would he, who lived through so much, think about life today? I wish I could ask him.

    Thank you for posting Homer.

     

    26th February 2016 at 6:11 pm

  59. Llpoh says:

    Re the SAT score decline, a while back (1990s by memory) they had to adjust the scores because they had fallen so dramitacally. So they changed 500 to 550, etc., to make it look like the kids were not becoming total morons.

    They will do it again soon. A score of 1300 from the seventies will be equivalent to a score of 1500 shortly, so much will they have shortened the playing field.

    But hey, the kids will feel good about themselves : “Woohoo, I dun gots me a 550 on dat maff tess! An in Yoobonics dun rele gud to, gots me a 600. Yazza, I iz gonna go to collig, yazza!”

    Fucking unbelievable.

     

    26th February 2016 at 6:12 pm

  60. Homer says:

    Araven–I’d like to know, too. People were different in those days. I’ve tried to put my finger on it and the closest I’ve come to, is that they were more co-operative, less self centered. America was a vision, a goal. It offered hope.

    Today, it is endless wars, division, and selfishness. Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty of good people whom that doesn’t apply. I’m talking about the tenor of the nation.

    We, i think, need to get back to the ‘oneness’ we all share.

     

    26th February 2016 at 6:33 pm

  61. nkit says:

    Fuck the world………https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oFdFdcXKb4&list=RDG6nsdyqYCg0&index=2

     

    26th February 2016 at 7:58 pm

  62. Spinolator says:

    I find this piece incredibly insensitive and disrespectful of the safe space that is West Philly. You should be ashamed, Sir. Those number thingies you used are from the devil. My friend Imam Al Ghazali told me so and he’s da shit. Nuff said.

     

    26th February 2016 at 8:00 pm

  63. ralph kramden says:

    I lived in Philadelphia for about 2 years very early 70’s. I rented in West Philly, I know about 34th St. , Chestnut, and a lot more. Jersey born n bred, so I am no cupcake. Used to go to a corner store an get cheese steak sandwich, created in front of you, Wonderful! Next to the cash register was a huge jar of pigs feet. That sight was a revelation (not in a good way mind you, to me), but what the fuck, I put ketchup on everything. Bill, the owner, was a black guy. Very nice, entrepreneur of his generation. I wound up playing tackle football with him, and neighbors of all stripes later on, without any issues. Once walking home, opposite side of the street, a car comes screaming up, this black dude jumps out, runs into the house, seconds later, 2 or 3 cop cars come up, they get out, gunshots from the alleged perp, no shots back!!! ( imagine that scenario now, fucking calling in airstrikes from Langley), then, a call….”I’m outa bullets” from the house, “coming out!” Hands up, no shooting from the cops( this is Frank Rizzos’ police department, for those that know). Cuff him, and off he goes. Nowadays that guy would be DEAD….PERIOD! Rizzo was no pussy, he was a motherf*****r! His officers all looked like Gestapo in their 3/4 length leather jackets, knee high black boots, etc. When all the other major metro areas at the time were having race riots, none in Philly. They had and used the K9 element, i.e.. dogs. No riots. NONE. So whats the point of all this hazy BS from some old guy? For the most part, everyone got along, no ” I deserve more cuz I am ….whatever”. No huge entitlements as like today. Yeah, in everyones life there are downturns, some really challenging, so thats what the ‘safety net’ is for. It’s was never intended ( originally) to be a lifetime annuity. Besides, if you can actually read, they aren’t funding those anymore, and don’t expect 7.75% return per annum either.

    Everyone needs to see the light because it provides illumination. “Sunlight is the best disinfectant” per Judge
    Learned Hand. that’s enuf.

     

    26th February 2016 at 8:03 pm

  64. IraK, re Philadelphia's McGee-Wallace plan for the future, says:

    One fact you TBP critics don’t seem to consider is that Philadelphia has a unique and realistic approach to municipal/school district salaries and expenses, and future performance. I’m not kidding. You can look it up on the internet.
    Philly’s plan is known as the McGee-Wallace method.
    JavVale McGee and Gerald Wallace are two former Philadelphia 76er basketball players who are being paid $22,000,000+ by the 76ers this year not be play for the team.
    The theory behind this is that paying something for nothing will help the 76ers in the future. (The analysis is sound but too detailed to go into in this short comment.)
    For Philly, city and school district, it’s believed that if administrators, teachers, and employees do nothing while being paid – the McGee-Wallace method- the city will bottom out (more murders, potholes, etc) and the school district will too (SAT scores decline, school violence soars), and that the rebound – like is expected with the 76ers – will propel the Philadelphia and its schools into the top ranks. Sound? Solid? Realistic? I think so, as it’s been explained to me.
    The McGee-Wallace approach is also known as the there-really-is-pie-in-the-sky method. Philadelphia’s government authorities stand by the policy and say we can believe in it. I think they’re right.

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:13 pm

  65. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    That’s Not My Department
    _____________________

    This morning I was checking my emails. I hadn’t stumbled to TBP yet. In the midst of doing my sorting I came upon this. Rather enjoyed it while drinking my coffee.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5V7me25aNtI

    I have been sitting here tonight thinking about what has been said so far. Most here are like minded. Feel that merit, hard work and individual responsibility are sorely lacking these days. Especially in West Philly. Liberals everywhere want to throw blame to this, blame to that. They wait with baited breath for next pronouncement from City hall to fix what ails. Yet when someone like Admin or I stand up and say that the people that live there need to somehow take control of their own lives the insults come fast and furious. I’m tired of being called a racist for saying that Black people in West Philly and a whole bunch of other Urban kill zones need to stand up. And like Admin says. Get a job, Get Married. Buy a house. Have a family like adults are supposed to do. The stats prove that these people won’t do this. Black lives will matter when black people decide they matter. Right now instead of seizing agency many are seeking blame. Not my Department!

     

    26th February 2016 at 9:19 pm

  66. wip says:

    “Measuring failure isn’t allowed in our politically correct, trophy generation, safe spaces world. Reporting declines in scores on a test that has been an accurate predictor of college success for generations is a micro aggression against the intellectually stunted morons being matriculated through the government run public education system.”

    Classic Gold.

     

    26th February 2016 at 10:43 pm

  67. Dis Nigga says:

    IraK, re Philadelphia’s McGee-Wallace plan for the future

    When your down as far as you can go, anything you do after that is an improvement. That’s if the China Syndrome doesn’t apply.

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:01 pm

  68. starfcker says:

    Jim, this is one of your sweet spots, observing and reporting the realities of your world, especially the inner city, exactly as you see them. Quite a talent, it’s what brought me here (available, posted on ZH) and it’s what brings me back. The school part Paulo cries about would actually be easy to fix, with some political will. One concept, no hiring set asides. As lucrative as those positions have become, open them to white males countrywide, and in ten years you would have a kick ass American education system, top to bottom. The public education system currently serves as a bleeder valve for the college industry, where else are magnificently credentialed blacks and females going to get the pay package they feel they deserve? Competition would change that world fast.

     

    26th February 2016 at 11:10 pm

  69. Mikey says:

    The West Philadelphia area you are describing was the site of the Centennial Celebration (1876). Celebrating the 100th anniversary of the US. This was a showcase area, people from around the world came to admire and join in the celebration. Philadelphia at that time was the most important city in the Western Hemisphere. One can still see and envision the magnificent structures, built for the Centennial, along Girard Ave and buildings in Fairmont Park. These are just a few blocks from the area you describe., “how the mighty have fallen”

     

    27th February 2016 at 10:00 am

  70. razzle says:

    “The black men of West Philly are the primary culprits for this ongoing cesspool of ignorance, dependence, crime, and hopelessness.”

    You write that… and then this…

    “You get more of what you incentivize and the warped welfare policies in this country incentivize the people of West Philly to not get married and not work. So they don’t.”

    Which gender is getting incentives to get pregnant but not married?

    As messy as it is… the black men in gangs are probably instilling better standards for “effort=results” in the kids than anything legit they have going on around them.

     

    27th February 2016 at 1:07 pm

  71. Administrator says:

    razzle

    You really think those women want to raise 4 kids on their own, without a man to provide and help?

    I guess your incapable of keeping two seemingly conflicting thoughts in your mind simultaneously.

    Why doesn’t the entire country use the West Philly method? Because they realize they can do better than live in government supported squalor.

    Your black men in gangs statement might be one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever read on TBP.

    Jesus you’re a dumbass.

    Are you a public school teacher?

     

    27th February 2016 at 1:50 pm

  72. Dis Nigga says:

    What I meant by my “I’m living it” crack above is that those muckraking novels are totally unnecessary now since there is no divide between the races, every fucking day we are immersed in the black experience. Hispanics numbers match the black population yet we are under-represented in the Oscars, the biyionaires clubs and the country clubs. Why aren’t we bitching about it?

    Because it doesn’t matter, we do not derive a vicarious satisfaction when other Hispanics succeed, we want our own shit. It really irks my groin to hear folks talk of Hispanics as a mass who love welfare and a life of leisure. They Hispanics I see are out shaking the bushes looking for work to support the old lady and kids. I may have a lot in common with Pancho or Jose but when a job comes available, it’s every man for himself.

    We compete for women, we do not pass them around like cattle or beat them and put them out in the street like community property. Sure, there are idiots willing to secure their meal-ticket with EBT bennies, but that kind of life eats at one’s self respect. That kind of internal decay requires a numbing agent like marijuana or other drugs to kill the self-loathing of being unemployed and of little social value.

    You stay unemployed long enough and a sort of mental fog sets in and it makes it hard to keep going. However, settling down to rot is not the answer. It is not the manly answer. That’s the pussy talking. Once in a while, a man has to put the pussy toy aside and go look for a job, a purpose beyond play and procreation.

     

    27th February 2016 at 2:20 pm

  73. Dis Nigga says:

     

    27th February 2016 at 2:30 pm

  74. Stucky says:

    “It really irks my groin to hear folks talk of Hispanics as a mass who love welfare and a life of leisure.” ————- El Coyote (whom I REFUSE to refer to as ‘Dis Nigga’)

    It should. Because it is a lie. Aside from trying to stir shit — I have great respect for Hispanics —- with the exception that many of the newcomers seem to not give a shit about learning English.

    They are hard workers …. like the guys who do our lawn service, or the ones who manually tore up and replaced our driveway. A good many are people of faith. Family is incredibly important to them. What’s not to like?

     

    27th February 2016 at 3:31 pm

  75. karalan says:

    Why does TBP so consistently parrot the feminist mainstream dialogue? Where is the independent and legitmate inquiry into the true nature of things?
    Blaming men for the fatherless hordes is irresponsible and untrue. Blame the women who force men into (financial-only) fatherhood, the human-rights-abusing family courts, and the welfare state.
    Ever tried going to court just so you can visit your own kid?

     

    27th February 2016 at 4:02 pm

  76. Administrator says:

    karalan

    Your circumstances with the court system has absolutely nothing to do with how the feral dogs in West Philly act. Why do you always use your personal problems as representative of a culture that has nothing to do with your situation? Do you live in the ghetto? Are you a high school dropout black man? Do you do drugs? Are you unemployed? Are you on food stamps and living in Section 8 housing?

    I didn’t think so.

     

    27th February 2016 at 4:13 pm

  77. Unaccountable says:

    Razzle and Karalan seemingly desire to utilize their misguided liberal nuance to blame everyone and everything else in lieu of personal responsibility. Typical. I suspect they’re school board members in the Philadelphia School District and weekend internet trolls.

     

    27th February 2016 at 4:33 pm

  78. NickelthroweR says:

    @Paulo

    Greetings,

    I’m late to this party but I will chime in regardless.

    First, as a former teacher myself, I’d like to give my .02 worth. OK, I was hired to teach American History and Government and sent to an inner-city school. I knew it was going to be challenging but I’m a big guy that doesn’t take crap from anyone so I was sure I was prepared for what was coming my way.

    Wrong. I was not prepared for what was coming because I was not prepared for illiteracy. It never occurred to me that I may have a classroom full of people that didn’t know how to read or write beyond that of a child. Since we think in words, it was impossible for my students to think because they didn’t know very many words.

    This sad state of affairs presented many challenges because you cant threaten or cajole someone into literacy. Also, people that can not read or write become quite frustrated when faced with challenges that require basic literacy. Worse still, a person that can only speak as a 2nd grader can only think as a 2nd grader and that person will throw tantrums when challenged to perform a task. It was as if I was hired to fish but sent to the desert.

    I’m sure that if I had stayed on as a teacher then I would be able to point to a few success stories and somehow convince myself that I’ve made a difference and have earned my gold plated babysitting pension but I decided that I could be of greater use to myself, my community and my civilization by doing something useful.

     

    27th February 2016 at 5:12 pm

  79. Unaccountable says:

    Nickel – interesting perspectives @ 5:12 pm.

    The system is broken. No doubt. Asking teachers to guide kids without any sort of parental participation is like trying to fight with one arm tied behind your back. I get it.

    I’ve never been a teacher, but I have been required to inspire and motivate people.

    In my experience: Achievement + Encouragement = Motivation. The key is to meet people where they are and take baby steps. They also must understand how choices matter in their own lives.

    It’s a spiritual thing, I think.

    Sadly, all of this has been removed from the public school systems. When my kids were young, their mother and I used to read them books. “Motorcycle Ralph” by Beverly Cleary. “Big Red” by James Kjelgaard”. “Little House on the Prairie” by Laura Ingalls Wilder. “The Call of the Wild” by Jack London, etc.

    This inspired them to learn to enjoy reading which is so important to education. If you can’t read you can’t even learn math, let alone politics.

    Truth is, throwing money at the educational system has never worked as Admin has pointed out in his above essay. I don’t blame the teachers per se. Instead, like Admin, I blame the bureaucracy, greedy unions who care more for their pensions, as well as the inane and politically correct school boards (and useless administrators) who care more for “social justice”, more money from the taxpayers and new buildings with transgender bathrooms as opposed to our nation as a whole and its children.

    In the end though, I still believe it still comes down to both parental and personal responsibility.

    There are good and bad teachers. The good teachers separate the “wheat from the chaff” and do the best they can do. The bad teachers are selfishly apathetic and the kids suffer because of them.

    Perhaps the system can’t be fixed. I don’t blame you for moving onto new horizons. I probably would have done the same thing, even if I had an educational degree.

    Keep rolling. Sometimes, this is all we can do…

     

    27th February 2016 at 6:22 pm

  80. Flip says:

    Hi Great Article. I have to drive through West Philly for my job as well and notice what the author explains. I am a teacher in the Philadelphia School District. Saying that the Philly teachers suck is not 100 percent true. There may be some, there may be many. But I do know that I go to my job prepared with a detailed lesson plan, and I am ready to teach. The problem, however, is that I, and many teachers I work with, must deal with children who do not care about getting an education. Therefore they are extremely disruptive. What’s worse here is that all of the protocols we go through (calling parents, giving detentions, and even deducting points off daily class scores) have no impact on changing behavior. I, myself, have one class where there are only 2 disruptive children, but they are so disruptive that they require constant redirection to focus on their work in class.

    The powers that be within the school district call what we have a “No Tolerance Policy,” but in reality nearly every type of bad behavior is tolerated — over and over again. In many cases parents are no help because they simply do not care, or cannot control their child at home.

    I am a history teacher and I have taught the US Constitution to my students for 15 years. Moreso now than when I first started teaching I have witnessed a greater antipathy toward learning, a greater disrespect toward students and teachers alike by many students who are just dead set against learning, regardless of how a lesson is presented. I have taught students about the violations of the Constitution, and instead of the petty adolescent rebelliousness toward teachers, engage in more constructive rebellion toward your government. But to no avail.

    And I also know that the suburban school districts, including Upper Darby, are just as flawed. How often has anyone from the Philly area witnessed a news report of a fight breaking out at Upper Darby High School?

    Blaming teachers is only part of the problem. Enabling bad behavior, by teachers and other parties involved in the learning process, can be spread around. Educational policy at the state and federal level are also a problem. But the core problem is what goes on at home.

     

    27th February 2016 at 6:27 pm

  81. Administrator says:

    Flip

    I’m glad to see there are dedicated, smart, courageous teachers like yourself who fight against all the odds to try and get through to those kids. I’m sure you get through to some.

    I’m also glad you can see I use hyperbole to emphasize my points to piss off as many people as possible. It’s just my nature. 🙂

    My ire is most directed at the politicians and supposed leaders of the city, school district and unions. You should be very concerned about the viability of your pension. It’s mathematically impossible for them to honor their promises to you.

    Thanks for providing an inside view.

     

    27th February 2016 at 6:38 pm

  82. Archie says:

    Admin is right, though he hardly needed to spell it out so eloquently. Put bluntly, Philly is a shithole, save a very small radius of liberal heaven, say from 2nd street to 22nd street, east to west, and maybe south street to market street, south to north. Be on alert elsewhere. The liberal paradise known as the UPenn campus might also qualify as a patch of “safe space”, if only because of the heavily armed security force employed there, if I remember correctly. Even so, when I lived there, a Penn foreign student was murdered by kneegrows for, wait for it, five bucks in his wallet.

    Yep, whites and blacks are just the same, just with a different skin color. Diversity is great! Don’t you love it?!

     

    27th February 2016 at 6:30 pm

  83. anon says:

    “Teachers are assaulted, principles fake test scores, students brawl, the learning materials are pitiful and little or no learning occurs. It begs to question, where did all the money go? Considering there are only 8,400 teachers and 300 principles, one wonders what the other 9,000 district employees actually do.”

    If you’re going to write a diatribe about crap education, it needs to be perfect. It’s principal

     

    27th February 2016 at 7:10 pm

  84. Flip says:

    Admin,

    You’re article did not piss me off. It is imperative that people know that teachers’ hands are tied by administration, and are actually encouraged to take a lot of the crap that students dish out. And like I said, parents aren’t much of a help. Parenting, to some degree, has devolved into becoming friends with their children instead of being a parent, which means saying “No” sometimes to children’s demands, and many parents do not have the courage to say no – for whatever reason there may be: guilt, fear, etc.

    As for my pension, I have been giving serious thought about cashing in before the economy crashes, but I’m not sure on how I want to invest it yet, and am fearful of the penalty that comes with cashing in early. In the meantime I have been investing in precious metals for a few years now, which is something else I have taught my children over the years, but unbelievably, they don’t seem to care about that either.

     

    27th February 2016 at 7:50 pm

  85. NickelthroweR says:

    @Flip

    Greetings,

    Sounds like you and I were hired to do the same thing.

    Question: I read your response and am aware that the students you speak of would not be able to read nor comprehend your words to our community here. So, tell me, how do you teach the Constitution whilst speaking in the manner of, say, a 9 year old?

    I ask you this in all seriousness because I couldn’t come up with a solution that allowed me to teach Government to someone with such limited vocabulary. After all, someone that reads as well as a third-grader can ONLY think at the level of a third-grader. This is why we don’t teach the Constitution to third-graders.

    Finally, I can appreciate your determination to stick it out. I can’t imagine what your motivation is but it works well for you. I never found that motivation.

     

    27th February 2016 at 7:56 pm

  86. Stephen King says:

     

    27th February 2016 at 8:09 pm

  87. Dick says:

    Those pics look just like what I saw in eight months working in southern Africa. Everywhere I went, everything was dirty, ill-maintained, trash strewn, with people standing around doing nothing during what would normally be work or school hours.
    I once rode past a traffic accident with a local friend, and saw lots of people standing around, doing nothing to help the victims. I asked why nobody was helping, and my local friend told me “they were waiting for them to die so they could take their stuff.
    I see a common denominator between what I saw in Africa, your story and pics, and similar things in Baltimore, Newark, Detroit and certain sections of most any large American city:
    Niggers.
    Not blacks, African Americans, people of color, Negroes, disadvantaged, Americans with a darker skin pigment.
    Nope; irresponsible, emotional, stupid, feral creatures who don’t deserve to live in a country that has given them every opportunity to do well for at least fifty years now. They have not taken advantage of a steady stream of opportunities handed to them on a platter, but rather have chosen to live a gimmedat lifestyle of bling not substance, slovenly indolence, penury and violence.
    Momma told me it wasn’t a nice word, and I never used it in my 60+ years before Buraq arrived. Since Buraq came along and made every excuse to encourage this behavior, in my disgust and anger, I call them what they are and deserve to be called: niggers. Until that culture changes and they earn my respect again, that’s what they’ll be to me until proven otherwise.

     

    27th February 2016 at 8:22 pm

  88. Flip says:

    To NicklethroweR:

    I spend a lot of time on vocabulary; and some children are actually smart despite popular opinion. Some of these kids do want to learn, again despite popular opinion. I also spend a lot of time explaining the concepts of the Constitution: 3 branches of govt,, separation of powers, federalism, etc. Usually my units on the Constitution last about 2-3 weeks. And we play some games along the time path. Sometimes we’ve actually had some good discussions and debates.

     

    27th February 2016 at 9:52 pm

  89. NickelthroweR says:

    @Flip,

    There is a difference between smart and educated. If someone has not been educated with a vocabulary beyond that of a third grader then how is it possible to teach that person 8 or 9 years worth of vocabulary in two to three weeks? After all, if it were that simple then we’d only need two or three weeks instead of 9 years to prepare kids for this level of stuff.

    Next, how can you possibly teach the Constitution to someone with zero knowledge of the history that led up to it? Athens, Rome, Veneto, the Magna Carta, the age of exploration and the Enlightenment all play a role. Finally, we both know that geography plays a big role in all of this and if your kids are like most then the Earth may as well be Mars for the amount of geography they know.

    Again, I’m glad your motivation keeps it going otherwise they’d be running around loose in public.

     

    28th February 2016 at 1:01 am

  90. Chen says:

    Stucky says: ————- El Coyote (whom I REFUSE to refer to as ‘Dis Nigga’)

    Hey, Stuck, Maybe I can go back to EL Coyote, the fucker got to be a burden because of his ways [he got to be a bit of a smart-aleck] and the way people reacted to him, putting a lot of pressure on him to act and speak white. I treat EL Coyote the way Native American legend treats him, as a trickster, a wise creature and a bit of a rogue. At times good and at times bad, sometimes winning and sometimes losing. If I can keep to those ‘rules’ for EL Coyote instead of bending to the external pressure to reform him, then I can do him again.

     

    28th February 2016 at 1:44 am

  91. razzle says:

    — “You really think those women want to raise 4 kids on their own, without a man to provide and help?”

    They don’t want the men they are fucking before getting married to help, no not really.

    — “Why doesn’t the entire country use the West Philly method? Because they realize they can do better than live in government supported squalor.”

    It’s almost like the rest of the country has better control over what goes in their vagina.

    — “Your black men in gangs statement might be one of the dumbest fucking things I’ve ever read on TBP.”

    You write an entire polemic on the failure of the system that surrounds these people. I make a comment that such a failed system is teaching them LESS about “effort=results” than the messy reality of gang life which at least has a requirement to put in effort to get results and you can’t grasp that?

    Are you actually suggesting a kid learns more about the real world in their Philly Classroom than in a gang?

    — “Jesus you’re a dumbass.”

    Why you gotta drag Jesus into this?

    — “…to blame everyone and everything else in lieu of personal responsibility.”

    Heaven forbid we ever blame a vagina for what goes in it.

     

    28th February 2016 at 5:15 am

  92. Administrator says:

    razzle

    Let me guess. You been done wrong by a vagina? So everything you read is colored by your bitterness towards the woman who did it to you.

     

    28th February 2016 at 8:51 am

  93. razzle says:

    Not really no. Pretty ok in that department.

    I just don’t think so little of women that I absolve them of being capable of personal responsibility like you do. In my experience they are a critical aspect of how a culture develops via the decisions they make and priorities they have. Especially when it comes to who they choose to have sex and children with.

    But if you have difficult accepting women have a volition and make decisions that significantly affect the world around them… I won’t distress you any further with such radical notions.

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:13 am

  94. Administrator says:

    I absolve no one. Personal responsibility for your actions is essential for society to function properly. You seem to have bought into the feminist agenda. The man has traditionally been the main provider. If the man fathers children and abandons the mother and child, that society fails to function properly. The men of West Philly choose to abandon their children. The women may get a welfare check, but they are still left in squalor to raise kids who end up running the streets like feral dogs.

    You don’t distress me, because your thought process is warped.

    So you’re happily married with kids? Never been divorced? We are dying to know your situation. Or is it better to lie?

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:45 am

  95. Matthew says:

    Been following your posts for years. Would like to have you on show someday. Keep up the good work!

     

    28th February 2016 at 12:25 pm

  96. nohomehere says:

    To Administration,”Personal responsibility for your actions is essential for society to function properly.”

    There is a city in Haiti called City Solel or the city of the sun, it was originally built to help with homelessness, a place to build a new life of prosperity and that was black on black societal compassion .Go look at it today! WUH!
    All human plans for a perfect society will fall whoa fully short because of its own tendency towards complacency and 7 billion other reasons why exist!
    In Africa, the houtoo and the toutsi are mortal enemies ,the one hacking the other to pieces regularly and race is the only reason, blacks discriminating against blacks.
    When one tries to judge another or exact punishment there always is the conundrum of who will cast the first stone , who is to make that call, as per stucky’ question about capital punishment.
    I deny race as an excuse for segregation in all of its forms white or black or any race there be for that matter.
    Even though through continental shifts that tend to separate people or species of animals, like in Hawaii where they have birds that became isolated and changed to fit their habitat and food supply. Their Isolation helped them to evolve into a completetly different bird the same can apply to people !
    Time favors change! Not always superior, just different!
    Those who do honest deeds, those will be drawn to the light to build a city of the sun!
    All others will tend to withdraw into to the darkness where their deeds go hidden and the resulting screams of anguish from retribution go unheard! That will be the only segregation Now or then!
    We need to evolve! YES?

     

    28th February 2016 at 3:03 pm

  97. EL Coyote says:

    What I’m able to understand of this Admin/razzle discourse is that Admin is talking about the way things ought to be and razzle is discussing how things are.

    Men ought to be more judicious about who they trade spit with and certainly more selective when it comes to sharing their sperm. A chickenhead may get you out of a temporary bind but there are consequences. Maybe later you don’t want the world to know you’ve been fucking the dog. Somebody is going to have to pay for your dozens of mistakes. Either own up to it or put the dick on lockdown.

    If you don’t like being criticized, then don’t spread sperm around the neighborhood like a fucking alley cat.

     

    28th February 2016 at 4:55 pm

  98. Ol' Remus says:

    Having read this article carefully, and the comments, and your replies, and the comments under the repost at Zero Hedge, I’m heartened by this essay and how it’s received by your readers. I left Philadelphia in 2001, downtown Chestnut Street. Economics had nothing to do with it.

     

    28th February 2016 at 5:09 pm

  99. Administrator says:

    Ol’Remus

    Thanks for your kind words. I’m honored to have you commenting on TBP. I love your site and have reposted a few of your essays. Even the few “nice” areas of Philly are still dangerous. It’s a city in terminal decline. I have the privilege of having them abscond with almost 4% of my pay so I can try to avoid their potholes and not get gunned down.

     

    28th February 2016 at 5:33 pm

  100. Qtip says:

    The black family unit was intentionally destroyed, and now the focus is on white families. Could you imagine blacks listening to this now?

     

    28th February 2016 at 5:59 pm

  101. Lloyd says:

    The racism is thick in this piece, but regarding the point about unions and the sweet pension deals that are gifted to those ‘lucky’ enough to survive the 20-30 years of uselessness are spot on.

    My cousin who worked for the state on NY until recently (retired with fat paycheck and bennies for life of course) has told me many a story of white, lazy, drunken, incompetent, sexist, habitually late, nap-at-the-desk, drug addled, bumbling, functionally illiterate, irresponsible, boors who are passed from department to department because they can’t be fired! It’s easier to send these incompetents to other departments than it is to fire them.

    It’s like a game. State Department A knows that Manager A is a drunken, habitually late, groper, but instead of firing his incompetent ass, they pass him on to State Department B. After a few months State Department B determines that his drunken incompetent is too much to hide, so off he goes to State Department C. Eventually this drunken incompetent makes it to retirement and gets his lifetime fat paycheck and healthcare.

    Stories about state workers who don’t want to do a particular job can just claim some sort of mental condition or physical ailment that prohibits them from doing that job they don’t like. As long as the minimum amount of work is done, regardless if it is done correctly, the paychecks and benefits flow unabated and incompetence is rewarded.

    A good friend of mine works for a school district and is in it only to get his 10 year vesting so he can get some healthcare benefits and a small pension. He tells me of how a supervisory position opened in the department and how none of the 15 employees volunteered to be considered for the position. They all had the same thought process; why do extra work with more responsibilities for a small bump in pay. It wasn’t worth it. Some 21 year old kid volunteered and is now the head of the department. He was too young to know that not taking on risk or responsibility is the ticket to a nice retirement.

    Incompetence, passivity, ambivalence, apathy, and look-the-other-way are rewarded. All you have to do is survive the politics. the drudgery, the totalitarianism, the incompetent management, the crony relationships that benefit just a few, the waste (the waste at school districts is criminal), fraud and abuse, and you too can retire with lifetime checks (usually 3/4 or more of your pay) and Cadillac health insurance.

    That’s just the tip of the iceberg of the NY State union scam. And by the way, these are all stories of whites.

     

    28th February 2016 at 6:36 pm

  102. Administrator says:

    Lloyd

    Please specify the racism in this piece. I love when people declare racism when I describe the reality of West Philly. Be specific big guy.

     

    28th February 2016 at 6:39 pm

  103. Joey says:

    I know a teacher who works in a public high school in Philadelphia. She complained to me that she is dehydrated because she can’t drink liquids during the day because it isn’t safe for the teachers to use the bathroom. The security locks the doors to her class and she stays there all day because the halls are unsafe and they can’t guarantee her safety. She must go 8 hours with no bathroom or risk her life!

    Your writings on Philadelphia are spot on …even your pictures capture the “pathological incompetence”.

     

    28th February 2016 at 6:55 pm

  104. Lloyd says:

    If you can’t see it then I doubt I’ll be able to point it out, but how about this?

    ‘The lucky end units usually have a mural of black people doing great things, with trash, garbage and overgrown weeds underneath and black people not doing great things shuffling along the streets.

    There are other government social services buildings to dole out various forms of welfare to the plantation recipients. The welfare slaves don’t even notice their chains.

    The government slave owners provide the bare minimum of sustenance to their ghetto slaves in return for their unquestioned voting support in elections. Obama received 98% of West Philly votes in the last election.’

    Shuffling, plantation, slaves, chains, Obama.

    If it sounds like a duck…..

    It isn’t just those black folk that created your disaster. If, as I stated numerous times in my comment, that incompetence is rewarded, then why not go the incompetent way. It’s a hell of lot easier, even for white republicans….

     

    28th February 2016 at 7:01 pm

  105. Administrator says:

    Lloyd

    Have you ever visited West Philly. My description of the murals is 100% accurate.

    It’s racist to point out that black people in West Philly are treated like slaves by the black leadership of the city????

    Shuffling is a racist term? Fascinating.

    Obama did receive 98% of the vote in West Philly. Do the research big guy. It’s a fact.

    The city of Philadelphia has been completely ruled by the Democrat party for 60 years. It isn’t incompetence. It’s corruption and idiotic welfare policies by a single ruling party.

    Your brilliant racism analysis was breathtaking to behold.

    Back to the drawing board. Realism = racism to people who don’t want to deal with reality.

     

    28th February 2016 at 7:13 pm

  106. Administrator says:

    At least they have a sense of humor in West Philly. Notice the weeds growing on the mural.


     

    28th February 2016 at 7:18 pm

  107. Administrator says:

    Lloyd needs to come to West Philly and take the TBP mural tour as described in 2011.

    http://www.theburningplatform.com/tag/phila-murals/

     

    28th February 2016 at 7:24 pm

  108. starfcker says:

    Lloyd. Aren’t those just statements of fact?

     

    28th February 2016 at 7:12 pm

  109. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Looks like a troll has landed from ZH. Okay I’l go first. So Lloyd how it is racist to point out obvious problems in West Philly.

    Is it racist to

    1) point out the overwhelming number of single moms raising kids
    2) ask why the majority of men in that part of town refuse to accept the responsibility of being a man and father.
    3) ask why it is so hard to get a job and get off the dole

    I could go on but you get the idea

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    You stumble in here with the time tested ad hominem tactic of claiming racism. Attempting to set the post and thread on fire. Then proceed directly to strawman or suck up to Admin, I’m not quite sure. You are a dullard. Go polish the knob of your cousin.

     

    28th February 2016 at 7:15 pm

  110. Lloyd says:

    Is it a fact that they are ‘welfare slaves’? Is it a fact that these people are ‘ plantation recipients’? Is it a fact that ‘government slave owners provide the bare minimum of sustenance to their ghetto slaves’? Where are the facts? I don’t see any facts. I just see racially charged language that is nearly devoid of fact. There are ways to get a point across and it depends on the audience you are trying to capture, so it could be that the author’s audience feels comfortable with those descriptions. I feel they are unnecessary and simply add to the problem.

     

    28th February 2016 at 7:41 pm

  111. Administrator says:

    Lloyd

    Add to what problem? Are you speaking in code? Please articulate the problem.

    Are you really as ignorant of the facts as you pretend to be? The real unemployment rate in West Philly exceeds 60%. At least 80% of the residents of West Philly are receiving welfare payments (food stamps, Section 8 housing, Medicare, earned income tax credits, SSDI). West Philly is a ghetto – that is a fact.

    Plantation owners provided the minimum of sustenance to their slaves in order to get what they needed from them. The current day plantation owners (Democratic Party in Phila) provides the minimum of welfare sustenance to the residents in order to get their votes.

    Do you get it yet? Or do you prefer willful ignorance?

    “Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored.” – Huxley

     

    28th February 2016 at 7:59 pm

  112. Flip says:

    To NicklethroweR:

    Hello again. I am wondering where you get the information that all of the children I teach only have a “third grade” reading level or a “third grade” vocabulary. As I said there are some students I have that are smart, literally smart, and want to learn. We test for reading levels, and most of my 8th graders are above a 5th grade reading level. A few are actually reading at a level beyond high school. So, to assume that most, or all, are at sub-par reading and/or vocabulary levels is inaccurate. Yes, 5th grade is sub-par but all of my 8th graders are that high or higher. There are none that read at 3rd grade levels.

    As for prior knowledge of the Enlightenment, the ancient democracies of Athens and Rome, these are topics which I go over thoroughly with my students. For example, when I began my unit on the American Revolution, we compared and contrasted the writing of John Locke, an Enlightenment political philosopher, with the Declaration of Independence.So, they are aware of the pieces to the puzzle and the timeline of philosophies and documents which led to the writing of the Constitution. The one issue is that I have to do my job as a teacher, and do a lot — a real lot — or explaining to help children understand some of the concepts we cover. As I do this as often as I try to, one of the recent trends in teaching ( which I think is complete bullshit) is that teachers do less explaining and allow students to create and interpret meaning of content on their own. I disagree with a lot of the trends in the teaching profession because many of them seem to keep kids from learning all that they should.

    My point is this: most of these children are not stupid, and most are definitely NOT illiterate. And to assume so is inaccurate.

    Like I said in prior posts about this article, there are a lot of disruptive students, so on most days I teach class to those that want to learn and those who are willing to do the work involved in the lesson on that particular day.

     

    28th February 2016 at 7:54 pm

  113. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Lloyd you are a hypocrite. You come on here and yell fire then proceed to attempt to strawman the facts as presented by saying that white people are useless as well. Well boy howdy we all know that here. It takes big nuts to complain about the lack of facts when in your first post you presented absolutely none except maybe a story about your first cousin brother-in-law and how he is useless.

    So how would you describe West Philly. A beacon of prosperity. A place of enterprise. A can do attitude. Please do tell.

    And yes they are welfare slaves. How could they be anything else. People living in a free society and they choose to live like that. Why is that? Is it because Lloyd Blankenfein won’t spare a buck or two? Or would the problems by and large rest with the people living there. The women who have children by four or five different men. The men who can’t say no to the women. The government who have assumed the role of provider in lieu of the men. And doing the pretty shitty job I maight add. But free shit begets shit piled higher. The point of article was to show that each of us has individual responsibility to be productive citizens. Hard work is what built those houses. Hand-outs is going to destroy them.

     

    28th February 2016 at 8:08 pm

  114. Gayle says:

    Long ago, I had a dream…

    I dreamed Michelle Obama would use her position to encourage young women, especially African-American ones, to avoid a life built around illegitimate offspring. Wow was I deluded. Just think of the ramifications to the liberal agenda if any Black leader had the audacity to suggest that certain classes of people should act responsibly. The problem is way bigger than the schools.

    Fatherless homes are now a norm, and not only in West Philly and not only among African Americans. Apparently the alternative is no longer assumed nor necessarily aspired to. Have another baby and get a raise. This shit would stop the minute welfare checks for kids born to unmarried people became unavailable. It’s so simple.

     

    28th February 2016 at 8:09 pm

  115. Lloyd says:

    “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”
    ― George Orwell

     

    28th February 2016 at 8:23 pm

  116. Administrator says:

    War is peace
    freedom is slavery
    ignorance is strength

    Lloyd is really strong.

     

    28th February 2016 at 8:44 pm

  117. starfcker says:

    Llpyd, there is a big difference between being a racist, and not being particularly sensitive about race. A big difference

     

    28th February 2016 at 8:28 pm

  118. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    wow Lloyd

    Fuck man you are one smart potato.

    pot_zpsiqjzwgrm.jpg

    Actual Grad Photo of Lloyd

    ed: turn that frown upside down

     

    28th February 2016 at 8:41 pm

  119. Lloyd says:

    I appreciate the mature discussion this site has to offer. You intelligent wit, your classic potato images, your ability to not reason, your misunderstanding of diverse opinions is impressive. I can compare this intellectual bastion to a favorite Bevis and Butthead episode. This movie classic also comes to mind:

    Dean Vernon Wormer: Here are your grade point averages. Mr. Kroger: two C’s, two D’s and an F. That’s a 1.2. Congratulations, Kroger. You’re at the top of the Delta pledge class. Mr. Dorfman?
    Flounder: [drunk] Hello!
    Dean Vernon Wormer: 0.2… Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son

    You guys go about your business and talk among yourselves. I am sure you will feel much better knowing you are tight with your BFFs….

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:04 pm

  120. Administrator says:

    Looks like our new intellectual anti-racist heavyweight has thrown in the towel. We sure will miss his anecdotes about incompetence and inability to comprehend facts. What a loss for TBP.

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:25 pm

  121. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Later

    Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out

    Whatta Maroon

    bugs_zpsme5iizh0.jpg

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:13 pm

  122. Maggie says:

    You tell ’em, Bugs.

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:22 pm

  123. Stucky says:

    Lloyd

    You rock, man!!

    But, you gotta try harder. You’re only getting 4 thumbs down. I also wrote that this is a racist article … and I got 11 thumbs down!

    They persecute me daily here for being a Truth Teller. So, pleeeease don’t leave, Lloyd!!! I need moral support here in this Den Of Iniquity. And your arguments make soooo much sense, That’s why they hate us.

    #WhiteOpinionsMatter

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:31 pm

  124. Stukfuk says: says:

    Stukky wouldn’t know truth if it fish slapped him in the face, or rather, he only cares about his version of it.

    Ain’t that right, Herr Stukk.

    You’re the racist. #AllOpinionsMatter, there, I fixed it for you.

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:49 pm

  125. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Fuck that was easy…

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:51 pm

  126. Maggie says:

    Ewe da MAN!show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-P40Vh8uVG5I%2FTqDRMATF2HI%2FAAAAAAAAAUU%2FJLZ4ENGwN1k%2Fs1600%2FHeyEweBlackface.jpg&sp=f2162a477cbf92ea0816eaa6b58238d7

     

    28th February 2016 at 9:57 pm

  127. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Actually it was Animal House Lloyd.You even fucked up your insult. Not sure where Bevis is but you really are a Butthead

     

    28th February 2016 at 10:13 pm

  128. Stucky says:

    Stukfuk

    As I said in another thread a couple of days ago …. I am — IN YOUR HEAD!! hahahaha Day and night, night and day, you think about me. Pretty fuckin’ hilarious. Your pathetic existence, that is.

    Not to mention that you are an enormous coward. Why won’t you use your real TBP name? You are obviously a regular. Hey, let’s see if we can deduce WHO you really are.

    Here are the folks who have posted in the last 90 minutes. You MUST be one of them …. because your comment appeared just 18 minutes after my posting.

    Rob in Nova Scotia (10:13 PM)
    Francis Marion
    David
    starfcker
    KaD
    Maggie
    rhs jr
    Overthecliff
    Robert Gore
    Bea Lever
    Admin (8:44 PM)

    That’s all. Let’s break it down by probability.

    NO WAY can it be these folks. These people are my friends.
    — Rob in Nova Scotia
    — Francis Marion
    — KaD
    — Maggie
    — Robert Gore
    — Bea Lever
    — Admin

    PROBABLY not these two
    — David (not sure which David this is. But, I’ve never had a beef with a David.)
    — Overthecliff (we’ve had a battle or two but, it’s just not his style to dopple and swear)

    THAT LEAVES TWO!!

    — rhs jr (yup, we’ve had big battles and big disagreements. I don’t think he likes me. But, here also, it’s not his style. He’s an IN YOUR FACE kind of guy, and not a chckenshit coward hiding behind a dopple!)

    — starfcker ……………….. YUP!! It IS you. I’d say 99.99% positive. A couple weeks ago I specifically called you out for the buffoon you are. And what you said was that you would get even and have your revenge in due time. Also, the swearing, cowardice, doppling is all in line with your character. Yes, it is YOU!!

    ADMIN — I’ll bet if you run Stukfuk’s IP address it might even match Billah’s Wife. And even if it doesn’t … even if it’s a totally random IP address, then we must conclude that Stukfuk and BW are using a random IP generator. And since we now know who Stukfuk is, that same person is also BW (who we all know is a regular), … and that person is starfcker!!

    You’ve been busted you low life piece of shit!! hahahaha

     

    28th February 2016 at 10:36 pm

  129. SSS says:

    “But the core problem (of education) is what goes on at home.”
    —-flip

    “You can’t fix family.”
    —-SSS

     

    28th February 2016 at 11:00 pm

  130. EL Coyote says:

    “You can’t fix family.”
    —-SSS

    Stuck, I had suspected so many others, never Starfuck. He never seemed the humorous type.

     

    28th February 2016 at 11:14 pm

  131. starfcker says:

    Nope. I’m the worst doppel here. Screw it up every time I try. And besides that, I never try to get into it with any of the regular contributors. Llpoh and i had some fun tweaking hardscrabble one time about roundup, but other than that, if you write for jim, i’m not looking to gun you down. I respect the house I visit. Jim can tell you, not me

     

    28th February 2016 at 11:15 pm

  132. EL Coyote says:

    Stucky says: NO WAY can it be these folks. These people are my friends.

     

    28th February 2016 at 11:26 pm

  133. starfcker says:

    And I guess I can assume you’re not a retired detective.

     

    28th February 2016 at 11:27 pm

  134. EL Coyote says:

     

    28th February 2016 at 11:30 pm

  135. jamesthewanderer says:

    Lloyd, you are stuck in a rut. You believe facts are racist; you believe calling out facts as racist MAKES them racist, and you a better person for “speaking truth to power”, perhaps. But here’s the problem: Admin’s article points out a real, serious problem in West Philly, caused by years of greedy, opportunistic people being paid to run a city but running it into the ground. It’s mostly their fault, since the policies, politics and personnel they hired created an environment of failure, which was never corrected. The taxpayers, their children and their futures were ruined for generation after generation by those who shared their politics but didn’t care anything about them.

    You want to call us racist for pointing out their failures and offering solutions that might help them? Take your concern and put it to use! Figure out a better solution than Admin’s and post it! We’re all waiting ….

     

    29th February 2016 at 1:07 am

  136. NickelthroweR says:

    @Flip

    First off, a glance at your state’s writing ability (based on 500,000 tweets) show that you guys write just above that of a third grader. Way to go! To be fair, California didn’t score much better. Second, I took your senior’s SAT scores and converted them to their equivalent I.Q. which got us an I.Q. of ~90. Of course, 80% of the students, as pointed out in this article, didn’t even try to take the SAT’s. One can only imagine how they would have scored. So, the best and the brightest that you have to offer would have a difficult time passing a college class.

    Excellent work.

     

    29th February 2016 at 5:11 am

  137. Administrator says:

    Stuck

    Stukfuk is your old friend nonanonymous

     

    29th February 2016 at 6:36 am

  138. Nonanon says:

    I didn’t realize I was that nondescript. Ah, well. As someone who posted on this site beginning in 2010, I was insulted when my posts were first edited and then blocked.

    Apparently, I ticked Admin off enough to where he started blocking my posts. No explanation, just started doing it. I realize it’s a tough job being Admin, but I don’t think anything I’ve ever posted rises to the level of being blocked from posting. As I stated above, #AllOpinionsMatter. I hereby request permission to begin posting again.

     

    29th February 2016 at 7:07 am

  139. Administrator says:

    Nonanon

    You’re an idiot. You are fucking posting right now. WTF are you blathering about?

    You have my permission to continue being a douchebag with nothing to offer.

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:14 am

  140. Robert Gore says:

    I’m reposting this excellent autopsy to Straight Line Logic, and I thank you for posting my recent articles.

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:55 am

  141. Administrator says:

    Philadelphia urged to do more to avoid Detroit bankruptcy

    Attracta Mooney

    PHILADELPHIA, PA – OCTOBER 23: Rain falls in downtown Philadelphia on October 23, 2014 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. One of the nation’s largest and most historic metropolitan areas, Philadelphia has become the poorest big city in America. It also has the highest rate of deep poverty in America – those with incomes below half of the poverty line – of any of the nation’s 10 largest cities. While much of downtown Philadelphia is vibrant with exceptional restaurants, museums and nightlife, many areas immediately outside the center are mired in multi-generational deep poverty.

    Philadelphia has a $5.7bn pension deficit

    Philadelphia has been urged to “take all necessary” action to tackle its $5.7bn pension deficit amid fears the city could suffer the same fate as Detroit, where a $3bn public pension funding gap contributed to its bankruptcy.

    The organisation tasked with preventing Philadelphia from going bankrupt has urged the city’s mayor, council and pension fund board to pass legislation to fix the problem.

    Philadelphia’s public pension scheme, which manages the retirement funds of 64,000 current and former employees for the Pennsylvanian city, has less than half the money it needs to pay present and future pensioners. It had assets of $4.8bn in mid-2014.

    The city’s funding ratio — a measure of assets to liabilities — is below that of 17 of the 21 local pension plans in the 10 most populous US cities, according to the Pennsylvania Intergovernmental Cooperation Authority (Pica), which oversees the financial health of Philadelphia.

    Harvey Rice, executive director of Pica, said Philadelphia city officials are “not doing enough” to reduce the pension deficit. “Much more needs to be done,” he said.

    In 2013, Detroit filed for bankruptcy after raking up debts of £18bn; its public pension scheme was estimated to account for a sixth of that total.

    Philadelphia’s financial position is better than Detroit’s. Standard & Poor’s, the rating agency, gave its bonds an A+ rating, meaning its risk of default is low. However, Mr Rice said a lack of improvement in Philadelphia’s pension scheme would put the city’s budget significantly under strain.

    The city’s contribution to the public pension scheme has increased from 5 per cent to 16 per cent of Philadelphia’s budget over the past decade, Mr Rice said.

    “If no measures are put in to curtail the pension deficit, it will continue to grow to a bigger percentage of the budget,” Mr Rice added. “That would be a big concern to the city.”

    Mr Rice said public employees should be forced to increase their contributions to the city’s defined benefit scheme, which provides retirees with a set retirement income based on their earnings at the end of their career.

    Pica is also calling for all new employees to be placed into a recently introduced hybrid scheme, which is more akin to a defined contribution plan.

    Unofficial figures show the pension fund had a tough year in 2015, returning just 0.29 per cent compared with 15.7 per cent in 2014.

    Its funding ratio fell from 46.1 per cent to 43.1 per cent, because of losses from investments. The average funding ratio for city and county pension plans across the US is 75 per cent, according to Wilshire Consulting, the investment advisory company.

    A spokesperson for the City of Philadelphia said: “The pension situation is serious, there’s no denying that.”

    He said the city is in discussion with unions that represent its workers about making changes to the pension plans.

    The city is due to engage in collective bargaining, where working conditions and benefits are set, with District Council 33, the largest public sector union in Philadelphia, in June. District Council 33 did not respond to requests for comment.

    Rob Dubow, chairman of Philadelphia’s pension fund board, said the scheme was also looking closely at its relationship with asset managers in a bid to close the funding gap. “We are working aggressively to cut our fees [that are paid to fund managers]. When we look at managers, we try to get the lowest fees possible. We have got rid of managers,” he said earlier this month.

    Detroit emerged from bankruptcy in December 2014, but last week it warned its public pension fund was again on course for a deficit. The mayor said the fund would be underfunded by $490m by 2024.

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:05 am

  142. razzle says:

    @Admin
    — “I absolve no one. Personal responsibility for your actions is essential for society to function properly.”

    Not once did you mention the responsibility of female sexual choices in your polemic. You made no indication that a change of sexual behavior on the part of the women would have a profound impact on the culture that is festering in the area you describe.

    You clearly weren’t going for brevity, so it the only reason is because you either don’t think women’s choices matter… or you think women are incapable of making better choices.

    — “You seem to have bought into the feminist agenda.”

    The feminist agenda says that women having promiscuous sex is one of the primary contributors to the downfall of society? The feminist agenda says that women bear the primary responsibility to not behave in a way that will result in children until they are married? The feminist agenda says that the quality of men a woman sleeps with is her responsibility and if she has sex with a thug or a low life, she bears the responsibility of having made such a choice?

    — “The man has traditionally been the main provider.”

    And the woman has traditionally waited to be married to a single husband and only had sex with him.

    — “If the man fathers children and abandons the mother and child, that society fails to function properly.”

    If the woman couldn’t pick out the father in a lineup, doesn’t tell the father she’s pregnant because she has already move on to someone else “better”, has sex with prison bound men, etc… that society fails to function properly.

    — “The men of West Philly choose to abandon their children.”

    The women of West Philly choose to give zero fucks about who their children’s father is.

    Ok ok… you’re right. Here’s what’s going down in West Philly. An entire population of pleasant loyal ladies are waiting until a decent man from their neighborhood shows that he’s going to be a dedicated father who can earn enough to provide for their family. She takes her time to get to know him, secures his commitment in marriage, and then on the day he consummates the marrigae he suddenly becomes unemployed, gets sent to prison, and a dozen other men on the street come over and blend their seed with her husband’s… throwing her life into a tail spin.

    — “The women may get a welfare check, but they are still left in squalor to raise kids who end up running the streets like feral dogs.”

    Well gosh darn it. I just can’t think of what they could have done differently. I mean… it’s a mystery. “Mom… I don’t have enough money to feed myself. What’s your advice? Will having sex with many different men help my situation?”

    — “You don’t distress me, because your thought process is warped.”

    Yes I do.

    My thought process says that who women allow to have sex with them is one of the foundations of a society.

    — “So you’re happily married with kids? Never been divorced? We are dying to know your situation.”

    Are you suggesting my 15 wives from every continent in Africa and 47 kids in every country in Canada don’t qualify me to have adequate perspective on the writings of someone driving through a neighborhood and griping about it to the world?

    — “Or is it better to lie?”

    I’m out of practice on that… but I’m sure if you give me a chance I could learn.

     

    29th February 2016 at 1:49 pm

  143. Administrator says:

    Looks like I got under zazzle’s skin. Mission accomplished.

    He avoided the marriage question. Sounds like a bitter divorce to me. We got ourselves a real woman hater. Right zazzle?

     

    29th February 2016 at 2:14 pm

  144. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Give up it razzle

    deflection and projection is something that doesn’t work here.

     

    29th February 2016 at 2:37 pm

  145. razzle says:

    — “Looks like I got under zazzle’s skin. Mission accomplished.”

    You’re taking victory cues from Bush Jr.?

    — “He avoided the marriage question. Sounds like a bitter divorce to me.”

    Because the other response was more entertaining. If I tell the truth you’ll say I’m lying so I opted for tossing you some bait for everyone’s amusement.

    — “We got ourselves a real woman hater. Right zazzle?”

    There are indeed many people who consider standards hateful.

    @Rob
    — “Give up it razzle”

    No.

    — “deflection and projection is something that doesn’t work here.”

    Clearly it does.

     

    29th February 2016 at 2:53 pm

  146. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    razzle you were the one deflecting and projecting. The problem with arguing with you is rather than talking about original piece you instead try and project your agenda.

    From the original piece

    Over 71% of the black kids in West Philly are born out of wedlock. Only 17% of all households are occupied by married couples, while 40% are single mother households. The black men of West Philly are the primary culprits for this ongoing cesspool of ignorance, dependence, crime, and hopelessness. The disregard and scorn for the institution of marriage is a major reason for the median household income wallowing at $26,000, over 50% below the national average.

    You get more of what you incentivize and the warped welfare policies in this country incentivize the people of West Philly to not get married and not work. So they don’t. The best method to succeed in life is through higher education. It leads to higher lifetime income. Children from married households do better in school. Married couples also have a much better chance of producing higher household income. Marriage increases the odds of success tremendously for the married couple and their children. The residents of West Philly are caught in an inescapable cycle of poverty, exacerbated by the government welfare policies supposed to help them.

    Does anything in that statement suggest that this is only being blamed on men. For the most part marriage is between a man and a woman at least where I am from.

    You seem to me too focused on some agenda. It seems to me valid to question why you are doing this. However and I have learned this the hard way having an intelligent thoughtful conversation with someone like you is akin to playing whack a mole at the arcade. After a while one realizes that game is pointless and only empties your pockets of money.

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    29th February 2016 at 3:46 pm

  147. razzle says:

    @Rob
    — “Does anything in that statement suggest that this is only being blamed on men.”

    Yes. — “The black men of West Philly are the primary culprits…”

    — “You seem to me too focused on some agenda. It seems to me valid to question why you are doing this.”

    By all means question it. Please explain what it is if you so desire. No expectations.

     

    29th February 2016 at 3:59 pm

  148. Administrator says:

    zazzle can’t distinguish between PRIMARY and ONLY. What a fucking dumbass.

     

    29th February 2016 at 4:05 pm

  149. razzle says:

    Rob chose the word “suggest”. Admin does understand suggest.

    Had he chosen another word that asked the question of whether the original statement “declared” it… I would have been forced to craft my reply differently and not been left an opportunity to leave you such a flagrant worm to bite at.

    Through the absence in the original article of even a passing mention of the role of other 50% of the population in the rejection of marriage…

     

    29th February 2016 at 4:17 pm

  150. Administrator says:

    zazzle blathers on about nothing. zzzzzzz

    That divorce must have cleaned your clock to be so bitter.

     

    29th February 2016 at 4:23 pm

  151. razzle says:

    If it helps reduce your distress so you can enjoy your nap… your bedtime fairy tale is fine by me.

     

    29th February 2016 at 4:39 pm

  152. Administrator says:

    Actual picture of zazzle


     

    29th February 2016 at 4:45 pm

  153. razzle says:

    @Rob
    — “deflection and projection is something that doesn’t work here.”

    You were saying? 🙂

     

    29th February 2016 at 4:48 pm

  154. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    razzle claims that Admin is the one using deflection and projection yet somehow conflates something I said to explain what Admin meant.

    You are a rather large fucktard. I thought Lloyd was going to wear the dunce cap on this thread but you have managed to take that prize.

    Congrats you really deserve it.

    Brav-fucking-ho!

    put intended

    cordially

    rob in Nova Scotia

     

    29th February 2016 at 4:51 pm

  155. starfcker says:

    Jim, that pic is brutal.

     

    29th February 2016 at 4:58 pm

  156. razzle says:

    — “yet somehow conflates something I said to explain what Admin meant.”

    What you said was not necessary for communicating about what Admin was suggesting all by himself… both in the original article and when expanding on his thoughts in reply later.

    You asked whether there was a suggestion. I answered in the affirmative and offered evidence that was there already.

    — “You are a rather large fucktard. I thought Lloyd was going to wear the dunce cap on this thread but you have managed to take that prize.”

    Here… I’ll do some projection. You actually think this sort of commentary is effective on a person like me because if someone were to do it to you it would actually hurt your feelings.

    –“Brav-fucking-ho! put intended”

    But… isn’t it Admin that has the affection for West Philly hos.

    — “cordially”

    I don’t think it’s necessary for you to resort to lying .

     

    29th February 2016 at 5:01 pm

  157. Stucky says:

    razzle’s ex-wife told me she divorced his skanky ass because he used a credit card too much.

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    29th February 2016 at 6:07 pm

  158. Stucky says:

    razzle’s current wife ….. stupid fucker jumped out of the pan and into the fire.

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    29th February 2016 at 6:26 pm

  159. Unfriendly says:

    Razzle Dazzle:

    Fucking idiot. Like every liberal fucktard troll that has ever lived, they use everyone else’s integrity, intelligence and language against them while disqualifying themselves.

    They are like herpes. They never go away and keep coming back.

    They also get caught up in debating minutiae while ignoring the “forest for the trees”.

    They type and blab their trope but never really say anything of any substance that might benefit anyone. All they do is bitch and moan like an unsatisfied women with the world at their feel.

    Keep going Razzie. Is fine.

    But just know this. When we are done with your fucking stupid ass, your shits will be the size of bowling balls.

    This is your last chance you little twat. Cause I am growing tired of your sophomoric blabbering.

    Take all of your perceived “deflection and projection” and shove it right up your bunghole and, instead, please be very specific as to what your main concerns are in the world and on TBP.

    Let’s start there and see where it goes:

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    29th February 2016 at 7:34 pm

  160. Flip says:

    NicklethroweR,

    If those facts are true, I don’t know what to tell you. I do know for a fact that my kids, well those that are interested in learning, usually understand the concepts and facts that I teach. And I know this because I still refer to the Constitution in covering other areas of American history, and when I ask questions on how these newer concepts relate to the Constitution, my students know how to answer and usually answer correctly.

    Overall, I have 126 students in 7th and 8th grade, and I know that they are learning. Like I said, those that want to learn are learning.

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:04 pm

  161. Unfriendly says:

    What is it about his thread that has brought out the flakes? Lloyd, Razzle, Karalan etc.

    Methinks Admin may have touched a nerve here.

    I wouldn’t say it is fascinating, but it is interesting:

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:05 pm

  162. Unfriendly says:

    C’mon Razzle. Let’s go! I have to be somewhere in 30 minutes for the rest of the night. And, tomorow, I have meetings all day. Hello? Hello? Let the debate begin! It won’t take long. I promise…

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:19 pm

  163. razzle says:

    @Unfriendly
    — “Like every liberal…”

    Which statements I’ve made suggest “liberal” to you.

    — “Take all of your perceived “deflection and projection”…”

    You’re losing the plot. That was Rob.

    — “please be very specific as to what your main concerns are in the world and on TBP.”

    I’ll take you at your word.

    Admin placed the responsibility for what’s happening to families and children in West Philly primarily on Black Men and made no mention of the role of women and their choices in that dynamic. Admin doubled down on that stance again when replying to me.

    I’ve suggested that women’s choices, especially when it comes to who they choose to have sex with, plays a significant role in how a culture develops and a society functions.

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:27 pm

  164. Unfriendly says:

    Raz – thanks for responding.

    What I don’t understand is why you are so desiring to absolve the black men of their choices.

    Because, at it’s core, this seems very liberal to me, ya know?

    Why?

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:32 pm

  165. EL Coyote says:

    Unhinged, don’t be a dick to razzle.

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:40 pm

  166. razzle says:

    @Unfriendly

    After my horrible divorce I decided my best option was to go Gay. Not just Gay, but Black Gay. I suck black cock every night now. It’s really a nice big and long job. You should try it.

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:41 pm

  167. razzle says:

    — “What I don’t understand is why you are so desiring to absolve the black men of their choices.”

    Have I? Or have I just tried to *introduce* women’s part into the equation?

    The closest you might suggest I came to absolving, and it’s a stretch, was saying that gangs teach kids more real life skills about “effort=results” than anything “legit” the Philly System offers… and suggesting that promiscuity in women is one of the primary contributing factors in a society falling apart.

    It is women restricting access to sex in exchange for stability that helps us build and maintain society. When the women stop restricting and having expectations of quality in order for men to have access to sex… things fall apart.

    Very liberal. I know.

    As admin in the article said… you get more of what you incentivize. Are the women of West Philly incentivizing men to marry? Why not? What is their incentive to *not* wait for marriage before having children?

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:44 pm

  168. razzle says:

    @EC
    — “Unhinged, don’t be a dick to razzle.”

    It’s part of the dance. It’s ok. 😉

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:44 pm

  169. Unfriendly says:

    OK! I knew it! Thank you for your honesty. You’re the bravest faggot I think I’ve ever encountered. Perhaps, if you could ever overcome your self loathing (which will probably be never), maybe you could see the world for as it is, and not as you wish it to be. Men decide where to stick their dick. Then they decide what to do afterwards. Not to sound like an anti feminist or anything, but the women are not the problem.

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:50 pm

  170. Unfriendly says:

    BTW – I am NOT a bigot. I had a nigger friend in college. I kept my friends from kicking a faggot’s ass one time. I chose not to kick a guy except when she pushed me in a bar years ago. And, I made friends with a Mexican online in the last several months. Truth is, that damn Mexican inspired me and I think about things he wrote every day. So fuck the “Razzle Dazzle”. It’s about ideas. Not skin color or sexual proclivities.

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:54 pm

  171. razzle says:

    So pretending you have a daughter… this is the advice you would give her?

    That she has no control over whether she’s going to get pregnant before she’s ready to support the child?

    Or that if a man wants to put his dick in her she can be confident he will be there forever and if he doesn’t she had no part in getting in that situation?

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:56 pm

  172. Unfriendly says:

    kick a “dike”, that is (not “guy”)

     

    29th February 2016 at 8:56 pm

  173. razzle says:

    — “It’s about ideas. Not skin color or sexual proclivities.”

    How about ideas about sexual proclivities?

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:02 pm

  174. Unfriendly says:

    I do have daughters. And they do have control. In fact, they have all the control. But that doesn’t mean if some guy knocked them up that I would have absolve the dude (white black or Martian) of his responsibilities like you seem want to.

    Act like a man – or – know I have a shotgun and a shovel. This is all they need to know.

    I care not for their motivation once their actions have been consummated.

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:03 pm

  175. razzle says:

    What if she can’t tell you who the daddy is?

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:05 pm

  176. razzle says:

    — “…that I would have absolve the dude of his responsibilities like you seem want to.”

    Demonstrate when I’ve said we should.

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:07 pm

  177. Unfriendly says:

    Choices have consequences. Maybe it’s a cultural thing and hard for liberals understand.

    But this is the whole point.

    Choose unaccountability and soon, Admin will be writing an article about your neighborhood, school and/or city.

    Think about it…

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:07 pm

  178. Unfriendly says:

    Razzle asks: ‘What if she can’t tell you who the daddy is?”

    Do you know how fucked up things are that you would even have to ask that? Where is the morality?

    Razzle lets the guys AND he gals off the hook. They can’t help it! After all, they are just animals. Wrong.

    Either way, DNA testing = Accountability. Use your brain. It’s not hard to figure out. Unless you dont want to?

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:14 pm

  179. Olga says:

    So – I’m going to jump in and then go to bed.

    I am one of three daughters and if we heard once – we heard it a thousand times – “don’t you dare think you can come home pregnant believing you still have a home – you are on your own from that moment – I was not put on this earth to raise bastard grand-babies”. End quote.

    Now – to be sure I had no idea what “bennies” were available in rural, rust belt Michigan in the mid to late 70’s but I was not interested in whatever poverty lay before me as an un-wed mother so I planned accordingly.

    The implied “mother commanded” poverty would have been several steps down – not something the girls in the ‘hood are subjected to – bastards are not a forced poverty as much as they are a continuation of a standard of living that is all that is known.

    I don’t have any answers – Admin does an admirable job pointing out what is wrong but it is so @##$@ systemic at this point I’m not sure what – short of a die-off – would be helpful.

    Capitalism has made huge swaths of Americans entirely redundant – the people at the bottom of the ladder have felt it first but I imagine it’s something most of us will have to deal with soon enough. I am not convinced that the generous bennie’s that were acknowledge to be the “death” of the black family weren’t intentional but it wouldn’t be the first time the road to hell was paved with good intentions.

    The 30 Blocks represents so much that has gone so horribly but it is also text-book Fabian Socialism – kill them with kindness and they will give up their power.

    Bread and circuses, cradle-to-grave entitlements – as well as “three strikes and you’re out” – have managed, IMO, to dis-empower and enslave anyone remotely capable of rioting in the streets.

    My two cents.

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:36 pm

  180. Unfriendly says:

    Razzle (and all of the other trolls on this thread) say;

    “I absolve thee. I absolve thee. May all of you Afro-Americans in Philly forever wallow in your mediocrity. Live for now. Live for free. Let the hardworking taxpayers cover thee”

    Perhaps this is why Admin wrote this essay? So, maybe (hopefully), some will “belly up” after reading it.

    In spite of of thee…

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:38 pm

  181. EL Coyote says:

    razzle it is awfully brave of you to take on Admin when you know this topic is his favorite ax to grind, Lloyd warmed him up for you and you walked into the saw. We have a saying here in California: never try to calm an angry pit bull.

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:43 pm

  182. razzle says:

    — “Choices have consequences.”

    Such as the choice to have sex with someone that can’t be trusted to stick around?

    — “Maybe it’s a cultural thing and hard for liberals understand.”

    Maybe. You should ask one.

    — “Choose unaccountability and soon”

    Sure thing. Women are accountable for the dicks they accept, men are accountable for the vaginas they visit. I’m not the one turning a blind eye to half that equation.

    — “Admin will be writing an article about your neighborhood, school and/or city. Think about it…”

    Cool.

    — “Do you know how fucked up things are that you would even have to ask that?”

    Yes. Are you shocked by the idea of a woman not being able to know who the father is?

    — “Where is the morality?”

    Tossed in the same shoebox that saving sex for marriage went I’d assume.

    — “Razzle lets the guys AND he gals off the hook. They can’t help it! After all, they are just animals. Wrong.”

    I don’t think he gals are getting pregnant, so… sure.. in that circumstance I’m willing to let guys having sex with he gals of the hook.

    — “Either way, DNA testing = Accountability. Use your brain. It’s not hard to figure out. Unless you dont want to?”

    Pennsylvania doesn’t offer free paternity tests. You don’t care about the plight of women on welfare at all, do you?

    — “I absolve thee. I absolve thee. May all of you Afro-Americans in Philly forever wallow in your mediocrity. Live for now. Live for free. Let the hardworking taxpayers cover thee”

    You can dance better than that.

     

    29th February 2016 at 9:49 pm

  183. razzle says:

    @EC
    My pleasure.

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:00 pm

  184. Quentin Tarantino says:

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:04 pm

  185. Unfriendly says:

    Vote for Razzle!

    Because Women are accountable for the dicks they accept, men are accountable for the vaginas they visit. And he is not the one turning a blind eye to half that equation.

    And, because Pennsylvania doesn’t offer free paternity tests and he cares about the plight of women on welfare.

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:15 pm

  186. razzle says:

    Running out of steam?

    I thought you had somewhere to be the rest of tonight.

    I’m happy you decided to spend your evening with me instead.

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:19 pm

  187. Unfriendly says:

    Razzle – the boldness of your stupidity has inspired me tonight. I used to be against abortion, but you have changed my mind. Not really.

    I’m glad your mom had you. It’s been fun tonight and I hope we can remain friends. Just keep being you. I’ve always enjoyed cartoons, nursery rhymes and fairy tales.

    It’s been real. It’s been fun. But not real fun, ya know? 🙂

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:23 pm

  188. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Alright I’m back from curling. Got my drink of dark Rum and against my better judgement going to give this one last go with razzle.

    Question

    Can we agree that original post didn’t lay all the blame at the feet of men.

    Answer is either Yes or No.

    You may find it unfair to place more than 50% of the blame for current welfare dependency feed back loop on men. But Governments everywhere have have replaced men in many places when it comes to support in raising children. This entire perverted economic model as laid out by the welfare state encourages and promotes this behaviour. I don’t really blame women for doing what they do in these places. What other choice do they have if they want to be Moms. I’m sure there are some good men who want to settle down and raise a family in West Philly. But for the most part the options are few and far between. The statistics prove this.

    And what of the houses that are slowly crumbling to the ground. One can’t expect the women to do that work too! I mean come on how hard is it to slap a coat of paint on a step or fix a porch. But those things aren’t getting done. Why because the men, well I’ll be kind and say, they went AWOL.

    But that isn’t even the main problem. The men need to realize that they are surplus to needs in this system. An extra mouth to feed. The women have figured it out. The men are kept as play things to provide the babies and once done like the drones in a beehive they are pushed out the door. It’s no wonder there is so much violence on the streets. These men have no purpose. They are standing on the corner waiting. The best thing for them would be to walk away get a job and get a life.

    One final thing before someone stands up and yells racist please don’t. The same thing is happening with White and Hispanics too! I should know I have relatives on this treadmill.

    Now razzle I’m sure you will attack what I say instead of reflecting on what should be done. I expect you to do this. Reasoning being is a long time ago dumb met stupid and had you.

    Have a nice night. I’m getting another drink. The rum is finally starting to kick in..

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:25 pm

  189. razzle says:

    — ” I’ve always enjoyed cartoons, nursery rhymes and fairy tales.”

    It shows.

    — “It’s been real. It’s been fun. But not real fun, ya know? :)”

    Ahh… nice. We’re signing yearbooks now? I hope your summer is like…

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:30 pm

  190. Unfriendly says:

    Truth is. I cancelled my engagement just to spend time with you. True dat. I sometimes do these things. If you want, I’m willing to dance all night? How about it? I never give up. Even though you are annoying, I’m actually kind of holding out hope for you yet. I know what it’s like to be unpopular and hated on various internet forums. Truth is, it is about the ideas over your apparent cross dressing desires and homo-erotic tendencies. As I stated before. I try not to judge these things.

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:38 pm

  191. Anonymous says:

    razzle is in way over his pin head. Most boring shit fest ever.

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:43 pm

  192. Unfriendly says:

    Right on Rob! BTW – I checked out your blog today and I thought it was really cool.

    Razzle – I bet your boyfriend wrote this in your anal (I mean Annual or yearbook, sorry!) – right in the bind, he signed in fancy cursive: “Don’t tell your mom I wrote in your crack”. Am I right? You can tell. No one here will judge you. Promise.

     

    29th February 2016 at 10:48 pm

  193. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Thanks Unfriendly. My writing is a work in progress I will say that I am having fun with my blog. Like I said before writing has been therapy for me. Helped me kind of calm the sea sorta speak. I’ve had it for a while but never told anyone about it.. Not even my wife. I hope to chronicle the farm project along with a book that I am trying to write. Farm for me right now is kind of my focus. As it should be. I have a kind editor who has decided to take on the task that is the book. Anyways as for razzie I have to agree. Boring you bet. I don’t really see the point to his argument. Why is it so important to lay most of the blame at women’s feet. Men are supposed to fix things. This is something that needs fixing.

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:05 pm

  194. razzle says:

    @Rob
    — “…and against my better judgement going to give this one last go with razzle.”

    Would it be unfair of me to sense you have a goal… perhaps what one might call… an agenda… with your reply?

    — “Can we agree that original post didn’t lay all the blame at the feet of men.”

    Sure. It laid some of it on female politicians by proxy.

    — “You may find it unfair to place more than 50% of the blame for current welfare dependency feed back loop on men.”

    I find it a failed analysis to not discuss the female role in that feedback loop.

    — “But Governments everywhere have have replaced men in many places when it comes to support in raising children. This entire perverted economic model as laid out by the welfare state encourages and promotes this behaviour.”

    Sooo… you agree with me then? At 1:07pm… “Which gender is getting incentives to get pregnant but not married?”

    You were right… this is going much better this time.

    — “I don’t really blame women for doing what they do in these places. What other choice do they have if they want to be Moms.”

    So you do absolve women of deliberately having sex with a man they know they can’t rely on in order to have children they can’t currently feed without going on welfare?

    — “I’m sure there are some good men who want to settle down and raise a family in West Philly. But for the most part the options are few and far between.”

    As few and far between as jobs for men that can support a family one might say.

    — “The men need to realize that they are surplus to needs in this system.”

    I think they have realized that very well. That’s why they have… as you said… gone AWOL.

    However oddly enough… they keep getting access to an abundance of sex. Bizarre. They are AWOL, useless, another mouth to feed… but keep getting laid. For doing nothing. Strange strange strange. What an odd incentive. Do nothing… get laid.

    — “But those things aren’t getting done. Why because the men, well I’ll be kind and say, they went AWOL.”

    Could that possibly be because of… as you said…

    — “An extra mouth to feed. The women have figured it out. The men are kept as play things to provide the babies and once done like the drones in a beehive they are pushed out the door.”

    I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thank you.

    — “These men have no purpose. They are standing on the corner waiting.”

    Beautiful.

    — “The best thing for them would be to walk away get a job and get a life.”

    Good for them. I wish them the best escaping the pit of free sex with women who have incentives (as you said) to not keep them around.

    — “Now razzle I’m sure you will attack what I say instead of reflecting on what should be done.”

    I guess we could introduce Islam into West Philly since you don’t seem to think the women can stop offering free sex with no commitment expected on their own.

    — “I expect you to do this. Reasoning being is a long time ago dumb met stupid and had you.”

    You might want to try that one again. I think the rum was kicking in.

    — “Have a nice night. I’m getting another drink. The rum is finally starting to kick in..”

    Ahh… it was.

    Sleep tight.

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:05 pm

  195. razzle says:

    — “Truth is. I cancelled my engagement just to spend time with you.”

    I believe you.

    — “I never give up.”

    Why would you?

    — “I’m actually kind of holding out hope for you yet.”

    You were doing so well.

    — “I know what it’s like to be unpopular and hated on various internet forums.”

    I don’t.

    — “I try not to judge these things.”

    You probably should.

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:11 pm

  196. razzle says:

    @Rob
    — “Anyways as for razzie I have to agree. Boring you bet.”

    Mostly because I don’t call people names and other unrelated color commentary.

    — “I don’t really see the point to his argument. Why is it so important to lay most of the blame at women’s feet.”

    I’m not. All I did was add women, and their incentives, to the conversation.

    Do you see the difference?

    See my post at 1:07. You made the same point yourself.

    — “Men are supposed to fix things. This is something that needs fixing.”

    Yeah. Those men should *force* those women to stop giving sex away for cheap. Like Islam.

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:18 pm

  197. Unfriendly says:

    Rob – unlike me – you seem like such a humble guy. I admire that. I enjoy your writing here, as well as on your blog. You have skills and I wish you the best. With your blog as well your potential homestead / farm venture.

    Razzle – you and I are not done. I am out for tonight. But I look forward to kicking your ass again very soon in the future. Thank you for mitigating my boredom tonight.

    ‘Til next time…

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:27 pm

  198. Unfriendly says:

    Rob – I wrote “blog” in my last post – but – I meant your writing in general. Keep on keepin’ on. Words matter…

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:30 pm

  199. razzle says:

    @Unfriendly
    Till then… quitter.

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:33 pm

  200. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Razzle arguing with you is like fighting gravity in a black hole. I didn’t think I would ever be able to say this but you are the stupidest person on the interweb.

    Congratulations!

    Nobody not even Admin is absolving women of blame. Just for a second though please do tell us what you would do if you were 20 years old, a woman, in West Philly with less than a high school education for a living. Enlighten us. Please.

    As for your comebacks. Exactly what the fuck is this taking apart every sentence. Are you Matlock’s in-bred bastard child? You might think you are proving something by wearing down all the rest of us. But your credibility and respect is bleeding away with every word you type. Kind of sad really. Is it your goal to replace Billa’s wife as the most retarded person on TBP. Man All I can say is if that is what floats your boat well you sir have not set the bar very high in your life.

    And then you bring up Islam. I could continue but hockey game is back on.

    As for name calling and commentary I’ll say this I need to sound like an idiot to argue with one it’s just the way it is. So you are just going to have to deal with it.

    As for you thinking you have got my goat don’t worry. I’m not bothered by you. You are like a fly buzzing around my head on a warm winter day that I kind of put up with because I know soon enough the wind will sweep it away.

     

    29th February 2016 at 11:44 pm

  201. razzle says:

    @Rob
    — “Razzle arguing with you is like fighting gravity in a black hole.”

    An inescapable force you’ll eventually have to surrender to? Wow. Thanks!

    — “I didn’t think I would ever be able to say this but you are the stupidest person on the interweb.”

    I’m pretty sure you’ve said that before.

    — “Just for a second though please do tell us what you would do if you were 20 years old, a woman, in West Philly with less than a high school education for a living. Enlighten us. Please.”

    Having a child would not be high on the agenda.

    If you were a father in West Philly… what would *you* advise your daughter do?

    — “As for your comebacks. Exactly what the fuck is this taking apart every sentence.”

    Two fold. Being thorough… and maintaining context for later readers.

    — “You might think you are proving something by wearing down all the rest of us.”

    This is tiring for you?

    — “But your credibility and respect is bleeding away with every word you type. Kind of sad really.”

    Perhaps. Should I be concerned? I’m grateful for your concern.

    — “Is it your goal to replace Billa’s wife as the most retarded person on TBP.”

    You two timing slut… how many most stupid/retarded people are you chatting with?

    — “Man All I can say is if that is what floats your boat well you sir have not set the bar very high in your life.”

    I included this one so I could add another line in the reply.

    — “And then you bring up Islam. I could continue but hockey game is back on.”

    Yeah… that was probably a bit too fast of a move for you if you’re already tired of this hike we’re on.

    — “As for name calling and commentary I’ll say this I need to sound like an idiot to argue with one it’s just the way it is.”

    So you admit you sound like an idiot?

    — “So you are just going to have to deal with it.”

    I do believe I have been.

    — “As for you thinking you have got my goat don’t worry.”

    Why would you think I think that? All I think is you helped explain what I was getting at in my post at 1:07 very well.

    — “I’m not bothered by you.”

    Again… I don’t think you need to resort to lying. It’s not worth it… it will eat at you.

    — “You are like a fly buzzing around my head on a warm winter day that I kind of put up with because I know soon enough the wind will sweep it away.”

    That sounds pretty nice actually. You’re a person I interact with because I have the ability to and choose to.

    Best of luck being a cow wishing his tail could reach his head.

     

    1st March 2016 at 12:01 am

  202. razzle says:

    @Rob version 11:44pm
    — “Nobody not even Admin is absolving women of blame.”

    @Rob version 10:25pm
    “I don’t really blame women for doing what they do…”

    As Unfriendly said… “Words matter…”

     

    1st March 2016 at 12:09 am

  203. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    You haven’t said anything whitty or intelligent tonight. Just babble as Admin said about six hours ago. How about you write somthing original. Humour me and everyone else here.

     

    1st March 2016 at 12:14 am

  204. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Thanks Unfriendly for your words

    As for rassie you lose I got the 200th post

    🙂

     

    1st March 2016 at 12:24 am

  205. razzle says:

    @Rob
    — “You haven’t said anything whitty or intelligent tonight. Just babble as Admin said about six hours ago.”

    Jeebus… what does that say about your priorities then?

    — “How about you write somthing original.

    Why would I write something original, when your own words do half the work for me?

    Rob wants to be a farmer,
    With rum he’s quite a charmer.
    He admires Hardscrabble,
    Yet debates razzle’s babble,
    Because he’s smarter than you.

    — “Humour me and everyone else here.”

    No means No.

     

    1st March 2016 at 12:28 am

  206. EL Coyote says:

    Get a room, you two.

     

    1st March 2016 at 12:34 am

  207. razzle says:

    Nice… you got the 12:34 time stamp.

    G’night EC!

     

    1st March 2016 at 1:13 am

  208. llpoh says:

    Razzle joins the illustrious ranks of DP and Westcoaster.

    That is not a compliment.

     

    1st March 2016 at 4:48 am

  209. Rob in Nova Scotia says:

    Yup I knew it was a mistake debating that fellow. Went to bed thinking he would write something at least showing he had three firing neurons in that vapid void. Knew it likely wasn’t the case. Wake up this morning a grog from the rum and see that his best post of the night doesn’t even finish as a rhyme.

     

    1st March 2016 at 6:31 am

  210. Iconoclast421 says:

    I cannot believe it is this bad, and the problem is this obvious, yet it is still allowed to continue.

     

    1st March 2016 at 8:43 am

  211. razzle says:

    @Rob
    It’s hard to call it a debate when given the opportunity to expand on your thoughts… you unambiguously re-confirm my primary statement.

    This conversation is going to stick with you for a long time no matter how much posturing you do.

    — “…doesn’t even finish as a rhyme.”

    Everyone’s a critic. I almost second guessed myself and made it an actual limerick. Thank you for confirming I made the right choice.

    I toast to you and your integrity.

     

    1st March 2016 at 9:56 am

  212. FFXIV Gil says:

    FFXIV Gil

    Do you have a good sense of humor .

     

    1st March 2016 at 10:58 am

  213. Administrator says:

    Special delivery for razzle explains his hatred for women.

    dirty_minds_16.jpg

     

    1st March 2016 at 11:28 am

  214. Dragon says:

    “The black men of West Philly are the primary culprits,” because women are just simple-minded objects with no volition of their own – it’s not their fault they let uneducated dimglows shoot loads in them. . . it’s only the men who are responsible.

    I’m going to go out on a limb, here, and guess that your room temperature, Celsius, IQ is responsible for that gem.

     

    1st March 2016 at 12:37 pm

  215. Unfriendly says:

    And…, another troll appears. Dressed in “Drag” “On” line who can’t distinguish between PRIMARY and ONLY while throwing darts at Admin’s intellect and holding women and men equally accountable in the tragic story of mankind.

    The hits just keep on a comin’. It’s fun to watch these trolls contort themselves to make sense in their own minds…

     

    1st March 2016 at 3:06 pm

  216. Unfriendly says:

    In order to set the black man free of his responsibility.

    AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson’s minions, all…

     

    1st March 2016 at 3:10 pm

  217. Unfriendly says:

    Hey Dragoon – how many illegitimate kids have you fathered? Be honest.

    And which was “primarily” more at fault: Thier vaginas or your dick?

    Again – be honest.

     

    1st March 2016 at 3:25 pm

  218. EL Coyote says:

    Define micro-penis. Mine has shrunk quite a bit from dis-use. Either way, if it was as long as yours and still not in use, the frustration would be that much greater.

    I sided with razzle because I understood he blamed both parties. Men are putty in women’s hands. I don’t clear them of guilt. Fucking bitches.

    Unless we get a female president.

    They’ll be blameless.

     

    1st March 2016 at 9:33 pm

  219. Unfriendly says:

    Even still – once the bitches are gone, all that remains is memories of their sideways smirk, and their kid that looks like you.

    You can teach them what Father Mapple taught or they can go the way of Scarface.

    In the meantime, comb their hair, make them look good, put on some cologne and welcome the next plane to Fantasy Island:

     

    1st March 2016 at 10:17 pm

  220. Unfriendly says:

    EC – but I do know what you’re saying.

    Just like Edward Norton tells Matt Damon in the movie “Rounders”:

    “In the poker game of life, women are the rake . . . they are the fucking rake.”

    So true…. There’s nothing more to say….

     

    1st March 2016 at 10:25 pm

  221. Skinny says:

    Don’t worry – Bernie will fix it.

     

    6th March 2016 at 4:10 pm

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