Trump-eteers vs. Westcoaster-ites

Elites love it when the sheep are occupied with drivel, makes it easier to clean out their pockets.

Vote for Trump and make a difference, otherwise vote for more of the same.

So true, stucky. This shit sounds EXACTLY like the ‘hope and change’ nonsense Obama used during his campaign. It is identical. How many of you guys laughed your asses off at the rubes falling for it ? I’m guessing most of you. Now you are falling for the EXACT SAME THING. it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so sad and pathetic. Actually, it’s still pretty hilarious.

Hopefully you guys don’t hang on to the illusion of ‘make America great again’ for as long as the dems held on to ‘hope and chains’ but you’ve already proven yourselves equally gullible, so I’m guessing you’ll still be true believers til the end.

Gator says: “This shit sounds EXACTLY like the ‘hope and change’ nonsense….”

Really?? I don’t remember the part about getting the Beaners back to their side of the Rio Grande in Obama’s hopey-changey shtick.

Trump has proven over and over again that he’s not afraid to use fraud as a means of enriching himself. Developments with his name that collect up-front money then never get built. Trump University, which is still fighting a class-action suit by former “students”. 4 bankruptcies. The list goes on & on.

Hitlery should be in prison for Benghazi, should be in prison or at least indicted for spewing state secrets from her “server-in-a-closet”. Quid pro quo deals with foreign states donations to the Clinton “Foundation”, and a colder than an iceberg campaign style when she’s out to “meet the folks”.

And then there’s Bernie Sanders, who has honorably served his constituents as an Independent over the years by listening to their problems and earnestly trying to provide solutions. No scandals, just public service. Voted against the wars in the sandbox and doesn’t want us involved in more wars. Wants to break up the big banks and tax Wall St. Had huge marches in 70 cities across America just yesterday.

Why the fuck do you think I’m voting for Bernie Sanders? Join me!

Westie,

Sanders is a Maroon that can’t even beat Hillary.

You really think he can do any of the absolutely unaffordable things he talks about doing?

If so you’re one too.

Any asshole can complain about the situation…it takes hard work and sacrifice to make change possible. What have you done Stucky?…besides complain!?

Weedhopper’s a troll. That’s all you gotta’ know.

Stuck- Your analysis is flawed either way. Trump, will certainly make a difference, that said so will Bernie.
In all my life I have never seen such a line up paraded against a single canindate, never, and I suspect you have not either.
So either it’s the establishment you so verbosely expose above, realizing we hate them and deftly anti-signaling their favorite candidate with false vitriol to guide our vote or they fuckin hate him as much as we hate them.
I will acknowledge it could be the former and its a scam, but I personally believe most of those shitbags hate Trump and I would love to give them the gift that keeps on giving.

@Anonymous coward: If you’re so afraid to give even a screen name, then I don’t have time to debate you. And for the record, national polls show Hitlery losing to Trump while Sanders will mop the floor with him. Remember, Bernie is an Independent running as a Dem. Most voters these days identify how? As Independents.

What is your favorite match up and projected outcome of popular vote percentage?
I’ll go first.

1. S – T Best match. Sanders by 54%
2. S – C
3. S – K
4. S – R
5. C – T Trump is the man by 87%
6. C – C
7. C – K
8. C – R

Even if Trump is real he can’t fix the disaster that is coming. Twenty trillion dollars and growing. It can’t be fixed.

@mahtomedi – you are missing the forest for the trees. It’s rhetoric designed to appeal to the dumber base of the party by telling them exactly what they want to hear. The specifics aren’t important. The result is the same. Convince dumb people that you are going to solve all their problems by making a few vague promises and pushing a couple hot button issues. It’s exactly what Obama do, just the republican version. If you all are too dumb to see through it, there’s probably nothing I can do to open your eyes. I only hope y’all are man enough to admit you were wrong when reality rears it’s ugly head. It will.

As far as our children and grandchildren cursing us goes, you guys participating in this farce are the problem, not those of us smart enough to see it for what it is – bullshit.

Anon, I’m in agreement with you on trump. The only problem with using anon as a screen name is it seems hard to be sure you are carrying on a dialogue with the same person. The website default is anon.

It will be interesting to see how the rest of the World reacts to whoever gets the nomination (by means legitimate or otherwise . . . .)

By then the “National Deficit” will be beyond $20 Trillion, and the total deficit (unfunded liabilities) will be very considerably more – in the order of $200 Trillion, so whoever gets the “Big Job” will be wanting to keep in VERY good terms with those holding the debt – National (US Citizenry), AND International.

Balancing the needs and desires of two groups whose interests may be diametrically opposed will need extra-special skills – skills that ALL the “Candidates” do not appear to possess.

Happy reading (US in mid – 2017) – http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-17/day-2017

Who is Donald Trump?

No reasonable person can believe that any of the establishment candidates will slash federal spending, rein in the Federal Reserve, cut burdensome business regulations, reform the tax code, or eliminate useless federal departments (the Departments of Education, Housing and Urban Development, Energy, etc.). Even Ronald Reagan was unable to eliminate the Department of Education. (Of course, getting shot at tends to make a person less of a risk-taker.) No reasonable person can believe that any of the nation’s major problems will be solved by Rodham, Bush, and the other dishers of donkey fazoo now eagerly eating corn in Iowa and pancakes in New Hampshire.

Many Americans, and especially Trump supporters, have had it with:

Anyone named Bush

Anyone named Clinton

Anyone who’s held political office

Political correctness

Illegal immigration

Massive unemployment

Phony “official” unemployment and inflation figures

Welfare waste and fraud

People faking disabilities to go on the dole

VA waiting lists

TSA airport groping

ObamaCare

The Federal Reserve’s money-printing schemes

Wall Street crooks like Jon Corzine

Michelle Obama’s vacations

Michelle Obama’s food police

Barack Obama’s golf

Barack Obama’s arrogant and condescending lectures

Barack Obama’s criticism/hatred of America

Valerie Jarrett

“Holiday trees”

Hollywood hypocrites

Global warming nonsense

Cop killers

Gun confiscation threats

Stagnant wages

Chevy Volts

Clock boy

Pajama boy

Mattress girl

Boys in girls’ bathrooms

Whiny, spoiled college students who can’t even place the Civil War in the correct century

…and that’s just the short list.

Trump supporters believe that no Democrat wants to address these issues, and that few Republicans have the courage to address these issues. They certainly know that none of the establishment candidates are better than barely listening to them, and Trump is their way of saying, “Screw you, Hillary Rodham Rove Bush!” The more the talking head political pundits insult the Trump supporters, the more supporters he gains. (The only pundits who seem to understand what is going on are Democrats Doug Schoen and Pat Caddell and Republican John LeBoutillier. All the others argue that the voters will eventually “come to their senses” and support an establishment candidate.)

But America does not need a tune-up at the same old garage. It needs a new engine installed by experts—and neither Rodham nor Bush are mechanics with the skills or experience to install it. Hillary Rodham is not a mechanic; she merely manages a garage her philandering husband abandoned. Jeb Bush is not a mechanic; he merely inherited a garage. Granted, Trump is also not a mechanic, but he knows where to find the best ones to work in his garage. He won’t hire his brother-in-law or someone to whom he owes a favor; he will hire someone who lives and breathes cars.

“How dare they revolt!” the “elites” are bellowing. Well, the citizens are daring to revolt, and the RINOs had better get used to it. “But Trump will hand the election to Clinton!” That is what the Karl Rove-types want people to believe, just as the leftist media eagerly shoved “Maverick” McCain down GOP throats in 2008—knowing he would lose to Obama. But even if Trump loses and Rodham wins, she would not be dramatically different than Bush or most of his fellow candidates. They would be nothing more than caretakers, not working to restore America’s greatness but merely presiding over the collapse of a massively in-debt nation. A nation can perhaps survive open borders; a nation can perhaps survive a generous welfare system. But no nation can survive both—and there is little evidence that the establishment candidates of either party understand that. The United States cannot forever continue on the path it is on. At some point it will be destroyed by its debt.

Yes, Trump speaks like a bull wanders through a china shop, but the truth is that the borders do need to be sealed; we cannot afford to feed, house, and clothe 200,000 Syrian immigrants for decades (even if we get inordinately lucky and none of them are ISIS infiltrators or Syed Farook wannabes); the world is at war with radical Islamists; all the world’s glaciers are not melting; and Rosie O’Donnell is a fat pig.

Is Trump the perfect candidate? Of course not. Neither was Ronald Reagan. But unless we close our borders and restrict immigration, all the other issues are irrelevant. One terrorist blowing up a bridge or a tunnel could kill thousands. One jihadist poisoning a city’s water supply could kill tens of thousands. One electromagnetic pulse attack from a single Iranian nuclear device could kill tens of millions. Faced with those possibilities, most Americans probably don’t care that Trump relied on eminent domain to grab up a final quarter acre of property for a hotel, or that he boils the blood of the Muslim Brotherhood thugs running the Council on American-Islamic Relations. While Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s greatest fear is someone giving a Muslim a dirty look, most Americans are more worried about being gunned down at a shopping mall by a crazed lunatic who treats his prayer mat better than his three wives and who thinks 72 virgins are waiting for him in paradise.

The establishment is frightened to death that Trump will win, but not because they believe he will harm the nation. They are afraid he will upset their taxpayer-subsidized apple carts. While Obama threatens to veto legislation that spends too little, they worry that Trump will veto legislation that spends too much. You can be certain that if an establishment candidate wins in November 2016, his or her cabinet positions will be filled with the same people we’ve seen before. The washed-up has-beens of the Clinton and Bush administrations will be back in charge. The hacks from Goldman Sachs will continue to call the shots. Whether it is Bush’s Karl Rove or Clinton’s John Podesta who makes the decisions in the White House will matter little. If the establishment wins, America loses.