LLPOH: Update on the Homestead

We have now just about completed building our “homestead” in Australia. It has been a long process, some of it done from far away, and a lot of it undertaken on site. We are transitioning from the building stage to the improvement and development of the property stage.

Our property is about a half hour outside a regional country town. We are not isolated, but we are around a half mile from our nearest neighbors. We feel we are generally accepted by the locals, who are very welcoming, if somewhat perplexed by us. The folks around here are conservative and independent by nature. A number of them are retired, and a number had small businesses, so we have common ground. We gather regularly for drinks, meals, and dinner out.

Our homestead is quite substantial for the area. It is a source of some head scratching for the locals. We built the home to meet our desires, which far exceed our needs, and it is in no way similar to the farmhouses that are prevalent. Many of the locals do not understand why we have a theater room or or pool or why we landscaped substantially around the home – after all, it is, or should be, a farm, and anything not associated with farming is, well, wasteful. They vastly prefer function to form. We wanted both.

In addition to the house itself, we have several out buildings/barns, with total size of several hundred square yards. These are used for storage of equipment and tractors and such (buying a new tractor had them again scratching their heads. No one buys new, you see.)

As Australia is extremely dry and hot, we have put in substantial water resources, and are entirely water self-sufficient. We have four dams, one of which is quite large, that catch some millions of gallons of water each year between them. We have integrated all the dams so that we can pump water from one to the next, so that in dry times we can consolidate water if needed. We also have a very large fresh water tank, which catches water off all of our buildings. This water is then filtered and purified for household use. We get about a foot and a half of rain a year, and we can catch enough water of our various roofs (hundreds of thousands of gallons a year) for both internal and external use – even enough to allow us to have a pool.

We use the dams to irrigate the landscaped areas. We also have partially established a fruit tree area – citrus, apples, etc., that we also irrigate. This, as well as a large vegetable patch, are still under development, and will remain works in progress.

With respect to energy, we are not entirely self-sufficient at this time. We generate enough electricity from solar to meet most of our needs, but given we use air conditioning (again a source of some amusement to the locals, who consider air con wasteful in the extreme) and have a pool, we have opted to remain connected to the grid for now. We have designed the system to allow us to go fully off-grid if we choose, but it would require installing batteries, which we have as yet not done. We are keeping a watch on battery development, as this may impact if/when that occurs.

We are busy putting up new fence around the entire property. The old fence is shot, and we want to keep the kangaroos out, which are in plague proportions. We are doing this with the help of our neighbors, who were incensed that we were considering contracting it out. No one pays to put up fence, you see. Especially not by the mile.

I did some research into fence building, and insisted on some new-fangled equipment and products. They told me I was insane, and that it would not work, etc., and that their way was tried and true for generations. I told them we were doing it my way anyway. We are now half-way through the project, and I have converted the locals to the new equipment and products (primarily new-fangled post drivers, and post stay systems. We are putting posts and stays up in 1/3 the time the old fashioned way takes, with a fraction of the physical effort). Seems the city-slicker Yank turned out to be right. I tell them about it every day, too.

I have gotten my firearms license, and am beginning to accumulate guns – .22, shotgun, long guns next. Folks that think Australia is a gun free zone are mistaken. There are some restrictions, but in reality not many, and everyone around here is well armed. In all honesty, the folks around here are as well armed as any place I have ever lived.

We have also gotten a couple of large family protection dogs (boerboels). Well, at least one of them is probably a protector. The other seems like a lover not a fighter, but we will see, and I would not want him mad at me.

Again, there is the head scratching by the locals, as the dogs of choice hereabouts are blue-heelers, cattle dogs, kelpies, and assorted herding dogs or terriers. A giant breed dog bred for family protection does not compute, at first. The conversation often goes like this:

“Why do you need one of those?” they ask. “Because we are isolated, and getting older, and shooting folks is frowned upon here in Oz, and nothing quite says go away like a 150 pound dog with an attitude”. “Umm, how do you spell “boerboel” and where can I find one of them?” There are a few more in the area now. Good sense is good sense no matter where you find it.

I hope this update is of some interest. We are adjusting to the new lifestyle, and are gradually upping our work-loads. There is always so much to do on a largish property – fencing, planting, irrigation creating, logging and planting for logging, etc. – that there really is no end of it. We are slowly getting in better shape for the work.

We are making good friends, although for sure and certain we are seen as eccentric. Gradually I think they are coming to understand there is method to our madness. We want the best of all worlds – creature comforts, security, and sustainability in time of crises, and when they reflect on that, I think they do not find it so strange. As for us, it is quite an adventure.


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Ed
Ed
May 24, 2016 6:35 am

Sounds good. How do you live without Pow Wows? Are indins welcome at the blackfellahs’ corroborees? Any other indins in Oz?

Hollow man
Hollow man
May 24, 2016 6:37 am

Sounds like fun

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
May 24, 2016 6:54 am

Sounds just about ideal to me! Long term planning along with scrimping and saving does pay off. Pictures?

For your above ground reservoirs I saw this some time back: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-08-14/millions-and-millions-of-little-plastic-balls-could-be-the-answ/6697608

YODA_bite me (you know who)
YODA_bite me (you know who)
May 24, 2016 7:12 am

Wait for the Aus. EPA to fine you $37,500/day unless you remove your water dams and restore the land back to original form.

stanley
stanley
May 24, 2016 7:16 am

Nice post, good update after a long time.

I have a more philosophical question for you –

You are a builder, yes? You built and owned your business in the US and then moved to Australia to build a different new life from scratch.

You build things that you profit from and live by. Presumably you are building this place in Oz to live in and carry on.

What happens when everything you want to build has been built? Does there come a time when you stop building satisfied with what you have and relax? (I think you cannot do that)

I ask this because many decades ago I knew a lot of back-to-the-land people in the US who bought their bit of land, worked hard and planned and constructed, and after many years of dear labor and sacrifices when it was finished they walked away from the whole lot.

It was the planning and the dreaming and the building that attracted them, but when the product was finally finished and ready to be enjoyed, it held no attraction anymore and they left.

A mindset I have never understood, but I think it is you. There must be plans, there must be betterment, there must be constant moving ahead and construction – but if the project is ever completed then all the luster is gone. There was never any intention of kicking back to enjoy what had had been so arduously created.

Just talking to you here, a reflective conversation, no ill connotations intended.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
May 24, 2016 7:35 am

Thanks for posting this update. It’s funny my wife and I are doing our best to decrease costs and pay off debts so that we can bug out. Like you. Not that I am going to have a big pot to piss in when it’s all said and done. That said it does help to read of someone who is executing their plan. With so much crap one can buy to fill up yard there sure is a lot of distractions thrown up to keep people on the debt train.

Last week we kind of got caught up in it for a while. Wanted to buy an RV. Just small pull along Trailer or as they would say in Oz Caravan. Just a bit more then 21 large to get rolling.

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And the salesman was trying to convince us to finance. $78.00/bi-weekly for 20 years. We were driving back from dealer last night and decided to not buy. It was and is a no-brainer.

My wife and I have been trying to figure out why there are so many of these units travelling the roads. Now we know. But like it has been said by Admin and others here on TBP. Maff is hard for most folks and they’d rather easy bi-weekly payments then being truly free like you are.

Anyways keep me updated. You are helping me keep my eye on the prize.

card802
card802
May 24, 2016 7:35 am

Stanley, I have a friend like that who builds airplanes, motorcycles and cars, once he is done he never really uses them, he sells them and gets another project.

I’m thinking Llpoh will never be done with his homestead, like all farmers there is always something to fix or improve or build, always.

Also been thinking about doing the same after thinking, what is life really all about. I drive to work, deal with issue after fucking issue so I can go home and do what?

Deal with more fucking issues, whether it’s the aging parents and the three sisters that have fucked them over with their “feel good” deals, to just being goddam bored with life as I know it.
Llpoh has his homestead in the land of Oz, I want to pack up and explore the country, sleep under the stars, forage, fish, hunt, just be.

But, (there’s always a big butt) I have parents, a wife, two kids, four grand kids and two business’s to run. People depend on me, and I hope this desire to run the fuck away is just a phase.

Sounds like a great place to be in your life, Llpoh, thanks for the update!

overthecliff
overthecliff
May 24, 2016 8:16 am

Good on ya,Llpoh.

Administrator
Administrator
Admin
May 24, 2016 8:23 am

Llpoh

You forgot to mention the Admin Guest Suite you built for me.

Persnickety
Persnickety
May 24, 2016 8:47 am

You’re hosting the next TBP gathering, right? Can you post up coordinates to your place?

🙂

avalon
avalon
May 24, 2016 8:56 am

Wow, you have been busy. Glad to hear you are doing well, and that you like your new home.. Sounds like you have great neighbors too. That’s awesome.

bb
bb
May 24, 2016 9:19 am

Everything will be well until the government puts a refugee resettlement camp in your backyard. Probably black Muslims from Africa. Good luck.

Muck About
Muck About
May 24, 2016 10:33 am

@LLPOH: Oh my, no wonder we haven’t heard a thing but a burp and comment from you in so long! How marvelous.. I suppose stanley -above- never built a homestead from scratch like thee and I. It just sounds absolutely top notch, location and all (don’t post it).. Big brother has big ears..

lWe also left the homestead when we had accomplished what we wanted to. My sweetie and I wanted to build something with our own hands so we took a year off and did it. It’s still there, in Hoodoo valley, North of Coeur d’Alene, Idaho, much improved now over what it was when we sold it for 3+ times what we paid for it. (and a college degree for a bonus) Then things got better (this was back in 1973) and we went to Maui and did it again. You know the story, I’ve told it before.

I think you and yours are just making it all come true for you and the rest of us. I’d still out there on Maui if I could have afforded to retire and not work – but it all just got too much to handle..

Thanks ever so much for the update and, if time and energy permit, drop by TBP now and then and let us know how you are doing. AttaBoys for you!!!!

MA

TPC
TPC
May 24, 2016 10:44 am

Impressive! Dogs and fruit trees, my family has farmed for generations and where you find us, you find a couple non-herding dogs and a forest of fruit and nut trees.

Its an important part of farming, ya know?

Also, good post-hole diggers have been around for at least 15 years now, I can’t believe not a one of them had tried them out. Jobbers rip your hands up pretty quickly, even with a lifetime’s worth of callouses.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
May 24, 2016 10:47 am

Llpoh, It all sounds really nice, you should be proud. 🙂

Maggie
Maggie
May 24, 2016 10:52 am

Sounds awesome. Of course, now I want am wondering if I can turn the basement into a theater room.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
May 24, 2016 11:31 am

Llpoh, do you have trouble with snakes getting in the pool there in the outback? We have talked about the snake problem you have before.

Fiatman60
Fiatman60
May 24, 2016 11:47 am

I hope this update is of some interest……..

Yes!! More please!!

starfcker
starfcker
May 24, 2016 11:51 am
BUCKHED
BUCKHED
May 24, 2016 11:52 am

LLPOH…glad you made it of the reservation ( the USA ) . Have fun Down-Under .

A question. I’m going to assume that teh .22 and the shotgun are single shot units ? Weren’t semi-auto guns outlawed in Australia ? I guess hand guns are out as well ?

Muck About
Muck About
May 24, 2016 12:07 pm

Got I hate that fucking rating widget!

MA

bb
bb
May 24, 2016 12:12 pm

Card ,what’s your real point ? Besides wanting to run .Everyone wants to run.I want to run but like you I can’t. Someone has to stay behind to pick up the pieces of this broken nation. Sounds like you are the right kind of man.
Some would say Lloph is real smart for starting a new life in another country. Some would say he is a low life coward.He left his business , his country , even his own injun people without any regard for the well being of a country and a people that give him not only life but the opportunities to succeed.

Someone has to stay behind. Some of us don’t have a choice. Welcome to the club.

Administrator
Administrator
Admin
  bb
May 24, 2016 12:47 pm

Someone who racks up tens of thousands of dollars in medical bills without having any insurance and expects the taxpayers of the nation to pick up the tab could be called a scum sucking lowlife dirtbag.

SSS
SSS
May 24, 2016 12:37 pm

Nice post, LLPOH. I wish you and your family well in your new home.

Welshman
Welshman
May 24, 2016 1:41 pm

Thanks LLPOH, fun read.

AKAnon
AKAnon
May 24, 2016 2:16 pm

Good hearing from you-Thanks for the update. Sounds great. Teach the locals well, but don’t forget they may know a few things you don’t yet.

Bostonbob
Bostonbob
May 24, 2016 2:26 pm

Nice post LLPOH . Love to see some pictures if it is not too invasive.
Bob.

Suzanna
Suzanna
May 24, 2016 3:52 pm

i enjoyed the post and i am really impressed.
your endeavor requires lotsa dough…and you are
making the most of it. God speed

Mesomorph
Mesomorph
May 24, 2016 3:55 pm

Great job. I love seeing people’s plans come together to make their world a better place. I wish everyone could feel how rewarding it is. I’m on a similar path in Hawaii but smaller scale. Even the dogs. I have Rhodesian Ridgebacks.
I considered Australia but there are just too many dangerous critters there for my liking.

overthecliff
overthecliff
May 24, 2016 4:20 pm

Easy on bb, Admin. We will all be on single payer soon enough. Then we will all have first class VA care. Think Venezuela.

D
D
May 24, 2016 4:41 pm

Ok, politically incorrect question.

Approx how many $US is this all setting you back?

bb
bb
May 24, 2016 5:08 pm

Admin ,did not tell you I lost my insurance because of Obama care. Did I not ask you for 40,000 dollars so you could show show the world your good side.I did .You just want to blame the victims of this wicked health care system.

I personally think Lipoh did the right thing.Doesn’t matter anyway .As the God of Keynesian economics said …..in the long run were all dead …

Llpoh
Llpoh
May 24, 2016 6:36 pm

Hiya – thanks for the nice comments. I will try to answer best I can:

Ed – no Indians but a few a Yanks.

IS – I read about the balls. They would ruin the landscape, but they do save water.

Yoda – all the dams are registered so no EPA issues. If you have a late property you have the right to put in dams but they must be registered.

Stanley – there are years of work in front of us. Everywhere we look there are things to do – firewood to harvest, trees to reforest, groves to plant, fences, etc. ad infinitum. Plus we will volunteer in the community.

Rob – we bought a nice RV. Next stop – the a Flinders Ranges.

Card – been there done that. Others can pull on the rope now.

Admin – we have a bed in a man cave. Just for you.

Star/Bea – hell yes we have snakes. The eastern brown is deadly, and the red belly black is also nasty enough. We keep pacifiers ready at hand.

Aka – mostly I play the dumb city slicker yank, and try to learn. By now they have guessed different. We get along great.

D – very expensive indeed. It could have been done on a tight budget of $500k or so, including some land but not as much, but we did it different. We built a dream home and treated the property the same.

Meso – nice dogs the ridge backs, but more hunter than we wanted, and we wanted something larger. Used to have one! Ours are specific to guard the family. Good luck with the dream!

Muck – I am going nowhere. Just takes up my time!

All others I missed – thanks.

Pirate Jo
Pirate Jo
May 24, 2016 6:51 pm

Llpoh, will you finally hire me to be your company’s Master of Coin, now that you have moved away?

Gettin’ tired of the corporate drill …

llpoh
llpoh
May 24, 2016 7:06 pm

PJ – I would but I am afraid you would run off and have kids straight away.

Rise Up
Rise Up
May 24, 2016 7:42 pm

Nothing better than realizing your dreams. Well done, Llpoh!

D
D
May 24, 2016 10:33 pm

LLPOH — $500k would be a bargain near where I live.

If I could follow you there I’d be your neighbor.

llpoh
llpoh
May 24, 2016 11:59 pm

Last thing I need is a shit flinging TBP monkey for a neighbor! 🙂

Didius Julianus
Didius Julianus
May 25, 2016 4:52 am

Watch out Llpoh, I just got approved for NZ citizenship and then I can move to Oz (one of the NZ/Oz benefits) and be your neighbor!

Actually, I like kiwi land better. You can buy a back-up retreat over here (Oz is much more like the U.S. in police state ways than NZ) and I can manage the property! 🙂

Seriously, looking forward to meeting you one of these days over some nice sipping whisky.

Tim
Tim
May 25, 2016 8:02 am

llpoh –

The Permaculture movement was birthed in Australia back in the 1970’s.

A lot of what you describe sounds like a permaculture design.

Did you actively choose a permaculture design for your property, or is it just a coincidence?

Did you utilize a professional permaculture designer, or did you do the design work yourself?

Thanks.

D
D
May 25, 2016 8:26 am

Oow pies dood, I fling cow pies.

TE
TE
May 25, 2016 12:25 pm

Llpoh, kicking ass and taking names, even Down Under.

I would have expected no less.

Hugs to you!

Llpoh
Llpoh
May 25, 2016 7:18 pm

Tim – I have no idea what permaculture is. I just want to be independent of govt utilities.

TE – you are the best. Mankato you!