A Russian warning

Via The Saker

We, the undersigned, are Russians living and working in the USA. We have been watching with increasing anxiety as the current US and NATO policies have set us on an extremely dangerous collision course with the Russian Federation, as well as with China. Many respected, patriotic Americans, such as Paul Craig Roberts, Stephen Cohen, Philip Giraldi, Ray McGovern and many others have been issuing warnings of a looming a Third World War. But their voices have been all but lost among the din of a mass media that is full of deceptive and inaccurate stories that characterize the Russian economy as being in shambles and the Russian military as weak—all based on no evidence. But we—knowing both Russian history and the current state of Russian society and the Russian military, cannot swallow these lies. We now feel that it is our duty, as Russians living in the US, to warn the American people that they are being lied to, and to tell them the truth. And the truth is simply this:

If there is going to be a war with Russia, then the United States
will most certainly be destroyed, and most of us will end up dead
.

Let us take a step back and put what is happening in a historical context. Russia has suffered a great deal at the hands of foreign invaders, losing 22 million people in World War II. Most of the dead were civilians, because the country was invaded, and the Russians have vowed to never let such a disaster happen again. Each time Russia had been invaded, she emerged victorious. In 1812 Napoleon invaded Russia; in 1814 Russian cavalry rode into Paris. On June 22, 1941, Hitler’s Luftwaffe bombed Kiev; On May 8, 1945, Soviet troops rolled into Berlin.

But times have changed since then. If Hitler were to attack Russia today, he would be dead 20 to 30 minutes later, his bunker reduced to glowing rubble by a strike from a Kalibr supersonic cruise missile launched from a small Russian navy ship somewhere in the Baltic Sea. The operational abilities of the new Russian military have been most persuasively demonstrated during the recent action against ISIS, Al Nusra and other foreign-funded terrorist groups operating in Syria. A long time ago Russia had to respond to provocations by fighting land battles on her own territory, then launching a counter-invasion; but this is no longer necessary. Russia’s new weapons make retaliation instant, undetectable, unstoppable and perfectly lethal.

Thus, if tomorrow a war were to break out between the US and Russia, it is guaranteed that the US would be obliterated. At a minimum, there would no longer be an electric grid, no Internet, no oil and gas pipelines, no interstate highway system, no air transportation or GPS-based navigation. Financial centers would lie in ruins. Government at every level would cease to function. US armed forces, stationed all around the globe, would no longer be resupplied. At a maximum, the entire landmass of the US would be covered by a layer of radioactive ash. We tell you this not to be alarmist, but because, based on everything we know, we are ourselves alarmed. If attacked, Russia will not back down; she will retaliate, and she will utterly annihilate the United States.

The US leadership has done everything it could to push the situation to the brink of disaster. First, its anti-Russian policies have convinced the Russian leadership that making concessions or negotiating with the West is futile. It has become apparent that the West will always support any individual, movement or government that is anti-Russian, be it tax-cheating Russian oligarchs, convicted Ukrainian war criminals, Saudi-supported Wahhabi terrorists in Chechnya or cathedral-desecrating punks in Moscow. Now that NATO, in violation of its previous promises, has expanded right up to the Russian border, with US forces deployed in the Baltic states, within artillery range of St. Petersburg, Russia’s second-largest city, the Russians have nowhere left to retreat. They will not attack; nor will they back down or surrender. The Russian leadership enjoys over 80% of popular support; the remaining 20% seems to feel that it is being too soft in opposing Western encroachment. But Russia will retaliate, and a provocation or a simple mistake could trigger a sequence of events that will end with millions of Americans dead and the US in ruins.

Unlike many Americans, who see war as an exciting, victorious foreign adventure, the Russians hate and fear war. But they are also ready for it, and they have been preparing for war for several years now. Their preparations have been most effective. Unlike the US, which squanders untold billions on dubious overpriced arms programs such as the F-35 joint task fighter, the Russians are extremely stingy with their defense rubles, getting as much as 10 times the bang for the buck compared to the bloated US defense industry. While it is true that the Russian economy has suffered from low energy prices, it is far from being in shambles, and a return to growth is expected as early as next year. Senator John McCain once called Russia “A gas station masquerading as a country.” Well, he lied. Yes, Russia is the world’s largest oil producer and second-largest oil exporter, but it is also world’s largest exporter of grain and nuclear power technology. It is as advanced and sophisticated a society as the United States. Russia’s armed forces, both conventional and nuclear, are now ready to fight, and they are more than a match for the US and NATO, especially if a war erupts anywhere near the Russian border.

But such a fight would be suicidal for all sides. We strongly believe that a conventional war in Europe runs a strong chance of turning nuclear very rapidly, and that any US/NATO nuclear strike on Russian forces or territory will automatically trigger a retaliatory Russian nuclear strike on the continental US. Contrary to irresponsible statements made by some American propagandists, American antiballistic missile systems are incapable of shielding the American people from a Russian nuclear strike. Russia has the means to strike at targets in the USA with long-range nuclear as well as conventional weapons.

The sole reason why the USA and Russia have found themselves on a collision course, instead of defusing tensions and cooperating on a wide range of international problems, is the stubborn refusal by the US leadership to accept Russia as an equal partner: Washington is dead set on being the “world leader” and the “indispensable nation,” even as its influence steadily dwindles in the wake of a string of foreign policy and military disasters such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen and the Ukraine. Continued American global leadership is something that neither Russia, nor China, nor most of the other countries are willing to accept. This gradual but apparent loss of power and influence has caused the US leadership to become hysterical; and it is but a small step from hysterical to suicidal. America’s political leaders need to be placed under suicide watch.

First and foremost, we are appealing to the commanders of the US Armed Forces to follow the example of Admiral William Fallon, who, when asked about a war with Iran, reportedly replied “not on my watch. We know that you are not suicidal, and that you do not wish to die for the sake of out-of-touch imperial hubris. If possible, please tell your staff, colleagues and, especially, your civilian superiors that a war with Russia will not happen on your watch. At the very least, take that pledge to yourself, and, should the day ever come when the suicidal order is issued, simply refuse to execute it on the grounds that it is criminal. Remember that according to the Nuremberg TribunalTo initiate a war of aggression… is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.” Since Nuremberg, “I was just following orders” is no longer a valid defense; please don’t be war criminals.

We also appeal to the American people to take peaceful but forceful action to oppose any politician or party that engages in irresponsible, provocative Russia-baiting, and that condones and supports a policy of needless confrontation with a nuclear superpower that is capable of destroying the US in about an hour. Speak up, break through the barrier of mass media propaganda, and make your fellow Americans aware of the immense danger of a confrontation between Russia and the US.

There is no objective reason why US and Russia should consider each other as adversaries. The current confrontation is entirely the result of the extremist views of the neoconservative movement, whose members have infiltrated the US Federal government, and who consider any country that refuses to obey their dictates as an enemy to be crushed. Thanks to their tireless efforts, over a million innocent people have already died in the former Yugoslavia, in Afghanistan, in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, the Ukraine, Yemen, Somalia and in many other countries—all because of their maniacal insistence that the USA must be a world empire, not a just a regular, normal country, and that every national leader must either bow down before it, or be overthrown. In Russia, the irresistible force that is the neocon movement has finally encountered the immovable object. They must be forced to back down before they destroy us all.

We are absolutely and categorically certain that Russia will never attack the US, nor any EU member state, that Russia is not at all interested in recreating the USSR, and that there is no “Russian threat” or “Russian aggression.” Much of Russia’s recent economic success has a lot to do with the shedding of former Soviet dependencies, allowing her to pursue a “Russia first” policy. But we are just as certain that if Russia is attacked, or even threatened with attack, she will not back down, and that the Russian leadership will not “blink.” With great sadness and a heavy heart they will do their sworn duty and unleash a nuclear barrage from which the United States will never recover. Even if the entire Russian leadership is killed in a first strike, the so-called “Dead Hand” (the “Perimetr” system) will automatically launch enough nukes to wipe the USA off the political map. We feel that it is our duty to do all we can to prevent such a catastrophe.

Eugenia V Gurevich, PhD
http://thesaker.ru/
Dmitri Orlov
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/
The Saker (A. Raevsky)
http://thesaker.is/


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diogenes
diogenes
June 8, 2016 1:55 pm

We should join Russia and together we could rid the world of rabid sand niggas.

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 8, 2016 1:59 pm

I read this the other day. Ex reagan staff and others are warning of the same thing.

I was working on a construction site as a friend fell to his death. It has never left me. His final words that haunt my every dream? “Wait”. And then down he went. I think of it often. Wait, I just need a little more time. I hope orlov is trippin.

Persnickety
Persnickety
June 8, 2016 2:07 pm

Saw this the other day also. I think it’s a good warning. However, it also overstates Russian military capability. Let me be clear, I DO NOT WANT A WAR WITH RUSSIA. But it would not be as one-sided or certain of outcome as the article claims. Some of the Russian weapons mentioned are comparable to stuff we fielded in the 80’s. Much as I despise government secrecy, the US has historically been very good at it with weapon programs, and it’s likely that our actual technology is broader and more capable than the public-spotlight-debacles like the F35.

Persnickety
Persnickety
June 8, 2016 2:08 pm

And remember folks, a vote for Hillary is a vote for global annihilation.

If you want to be incinerated and see your children the same, vote for Hillary.

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 8, 2016 2:12 pm

@persnickety
Are you familiar with ‘janes’? Get that way if you want a bit more on actual capabilities. Janes.com

Dutchman
Dutchman
June 8, 2016 2:14 pm

WWII was the last symmetric war. All wars will now be proxy wars.

Diogenes has a good idea: US, Russia, China – wipe out Muslim camel jockeys, take their oil.

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 8, 2016 2:20 pm

@dutchman
You hope you are right. So do I.
As for teaming up? Evil never shares power.

TPC
TPC
June 8, 2016 4:27 pm

Two things:

1 – The author is correct in that a direct war with Russia would be catastrophic for both sides.
2 – The author drastically underestimates the abilities of the US military.

rhs jr
rhs jr
June 8, 2016 4:29 pm

I think Russia, China et all could beat us with their Fifth Columns, a financial and trade assault, and hackers; their own Military could have their proverbial hands tied behind their backs. Only NeoCons, Useful Idiots and Harpy are stupid enough to push the rest of the world around like they do. Harpy is attacking Trump like LBJ attacked Barry Goldwater; the Red Queen of Heart’s hands are bloody and her head is totally full of crap. She would turn all America into another Benghazi.

Persnickety
Persnickety
June 8, 2016 4:48 pm

I think most of us can agree that Hillary is evil incarnate. She makes Dick Cheney look like a saint.

Part of me wonders if she is so blatantly evil that her supposed election victory would launch us into an immediate civil war that might prevent some of the horrible things she would do if ever actually in power. But I’m probably just optimistic.

(BTW, I don’t compare someone to “Mother Theresa” because if you research that supposed saint you may find she’s not a person you would consider good hearted and kind.)

ditchner
ditchner
June 8, 2016 6:04 pm

If you watch the videos of the towers turning to dust in mid-air, you have to realize that our government has secret weapons that are difficult to imagine. Jessie Ventura was told by John Hutchinson that this weapon which he worked on and handed over to the military can just as easily take out a city or a continent.

https://youtu.be/r51a2HnAXCQ

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 8, 2016 6:41 pm

@ditchner

Hutchinson effect. Dont make me slap you right in the stupid. Janes dammit. The US has a .3 k-ton yield small package nuclear device underwing mount on damn near any weapons platform. Now look at the heat signature under the towers. If you need a wacky cospiracy theory you dont need imaginary mumbo fucking jumbo. Start with what actually exists or you kill any discussion before it starts. Back to the basement with you.

Rainman
Rainman
June 8, 2016 7:32 pm

If we go to war with Russia over the Ukraine, we will loose, no matter who actually ‘wins’. Who gives a flying fuck about Ukraine anyways. All those idiots supporting the Ukraine war should go over now and pick up a weapon and fight. Poroschenko has had about 5 drafts so far to build up his army but the men keep fleeing the country to avoid military service. The Nazi Azov militia is always taking applications. The Maidan revolution threw out a ‘corrupt leader’ only to replace him with someone a hundred times more corrupt. How can this shit hole backwater of a country be worth ww3?
I just don’t get it.
Rainman……..

llpoh
llpoh
June 8, 2016 7:56 pm

Rainman – the issue is not so much the Ukraine. The issue is the Crimea and the area adjoining Russia/The Ukraine and the Black sea.. It is an area inhabited by Russians almost universally, who want to rejoin Russia, and voted to do so in Crimea. And it is a major port area on the Black Sea and is invaluable strategically to Russia. Russia gives a whole heap of fucks about Crimea and the Black Sea. And they are not giving it up. End of story.

card802
card802
June 8, 2016 8:12 pm

If the Russians have such great technology and have “new weapons make retaliation instant, undetectable, unstoppable and perfectly lethal.”

Then target the building where all the fucknuts that want war are together, leave the rest of us alone.

ditchner
ditchner
June 8, 2016 8:27 pm

@indigentandindignant

Oh, I get it. A nuclear device that didn’t produce any heat and turned steel (people, concrete, glass, computers, toilets, EVERYTHING in the buildings including the buildings themselves) directly into dust which seconds later didn’t burn anybody on the ground. Where can I read more about this new type of nuclear device that defies the known laws of physics?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
June 8, 2016 11:27 pm

The neocons are insane. Hopefully Putin will release key Hillary emails and destroy her candidacy In the fall.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
June 8, 2016 11:29 pm

But let’s remember what’s most important: Trump called a guy a Mexican.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 9, 2016 12:41 am

I had lunch today with Dick Cheney and his new clone up at Ravenrock. You should see his clone. They’ve really come a long way with that process. Now he’ll never die. Anyway, he assured me we’ve got nothing to worry about.

Phil from Oz
Phil from Oz
June 9, 2016 6:37 am

Something else along similar lines – with particular reference to the impact of the Aegis Ashore deployment.

THE RED LINE CROSSED, IN THE CROSS-HAIRS, AT TRIGGER POINT — WAITING FOR AN OCTOBER SURPRISE

Hardly “reassuring stuff” is it . . . . . .

Suzanna
Suzanna
June 9, 2016 11:18 am

we can agree Russia and the USA both have deadly weapons.

Henry Kissinger
“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”

― Henry Kissinger

Soldiers are used to test vaccines and vax combos and are exposed to
depleted uranium in their weaponry. Should they refuse? Court Martial
and fines are likely.

http://www.activistpost.com/2016/06/the-u-s-military-personnels-smoking-gun-documentation-regarding-the-anthrax-vaccine.html

Above link presents the “Gulf War Syndrome.” Jobs are scarce so the “service”
offers an opportunity. Death and vax induced disease that gov denies, then passes
laws to prevent any suits against vax makers. What a bunch of misery.

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 9, 2016 11:54 am

@ditchner

No heat?
Never see the pictures of the melted cars outside the building or read about folks flesh hanging off? I am not saying it was that particular weapon either. Just that fantasy weapons are not needed to do what you saw that day. Get behind the paywall at janes. We have plenty that would get the job done. But as per the weapon I describe, rewatch that days footage. You can see missile signature before tower 2 explodes. Molten metal in the basement and the radioactive signature wrap nicely. Or maybe itwas a hutchinson weapon that there Iis zero evidence of. Or it was multifaceted. Pre placed column cutters to drop it and something else that blew it up. At least there is evidence both ways conventionally, where there is just nothing for a hutchinson effect weapon. And a grainy clip of that beam disintegrating is unfortunately not evidence of a fantasy weapon. But it is interesting.

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 9, 2016 12:02 pm

Furthermore, if we are trying to get people interested in discussing it, fantasy weapons are self defeating on the topic. Its hard enuf getting people beyond their normalcy bias without breaking out the unicorns. I stick to pre placed column cutting because I can show people pictures of subfloor level columns all cut at a 45 degree angle. How do you show people your hutchinson effect? Those shit videos he made that look all faked out, and he looks half nuts anyway. We want an investigation, not a cartoon. Shit like that ruins the discussion, even if in ten years it turns out to be correct.

Ditchner
Ditchner
June 9, 2016 1:56 pm

My only interest is the truth of what happened that day.

99% of the buildings turned almost instantly from solid material into dust. I don’t care what the mechanism was but why should we not know what really happened? Why did the ABC news Peter Jennings make such a fuss about the lack of rubble on 9/12? Why was this never brought up again?

here’s a more succinct link of the event:

https://youtu.be/0mcYad-AXyo

Ditchner
Ditchner
June 9, 2016 2:03 pm

@indigentandindignant

Oh, and would you please supply a link to video evidence of the mythical pools of molten steel? I just can’t seem to find any even though all the 911 “truthers” always talk about them existing weeks after the event. Thanks!

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 9, 2016 4:54 pm

@ditchener
There are eye witnesses who are first responders, and there is satellite imagery of infrared heat signatures . Not sure if there is video of it, but witnesses claimed it flowed for weeks underneath the site, and they had fire hoses on it 24/7 for months that steamed from the heat. Funny you wont accept that kind of evidence, but are all about a hutchinson weapon. I have only run into that before with trolls. Are you a troll?

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 9, 2016 4:59 pm

And you called me a truther ditchner. Another trolly thing to do. The molten metal is irrelavent for my methodology anyway. I focus on just the 45 degree cut columns. Highly unlikely that could happen by jet fuel even in a global collapse. Unless ol’ hutchinson zapped’em.

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
June 9, 2016 5:08 pm

Debunking911.com

An anti conspiracy site has a picture of molten steel being picked by an excavator six weeks after the tower came down. They offer an exothermic reaction as a cause. About 3/4 of the way down the page.
You wanted molten metal ditchner, you got it. And from a source that would not fake its presence.

rhs jr
rhs jr
June 10, 2016 10:12 am

Bldg 7 was “pulled” just like the front of the Murrah Bldg in OKC. And just like in OKC, no non-governmental experts were allowed to inspect the rubble which was immediately carted off to India etc and disposed. Circumstantial and eyewitness evidence proves Bldgs 1 and 2 were mined for destruction before the planes hit them. No doubt in my mind that trolls are still being paid to monitor and argue against the governments involvement.

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