Or, do some people prefer living in a cardboard box next to 500 acres of a garbage dump. Life is what it is and it is unfair. For 70 years, the U.S. gov’t has given tons and tons of money to countries around the world living in abject poverty. All kinds of organizations have provided humanitarian assistance (Christian Charities, many Medical programs, etc.).
After all this what do we see – poverty squared due to the population explosions.
Luck – be appreciative you weren’t born next to the garbage pit. Live your life as best you can – your attempt to save the world only makes it worse.
anarchyst
August 27, 2016 7:22 am
Absolutely YES!
The freedom we have is the freedom we TAKE. When it comes to government, true free people need to “fly below the radar” as most “laws and statutes” are unconstitutional. From all amendments put in place after the Bill of Rights to all rulings by our so-called “supreme court” and “alphabet agencies”, they are all “null and void”…
Ouirphuqd
August 27, 2016 7:29 am
Nothing is intended, it is only achieved. The 1950’s were the last times of innocence in America, WW2 was recently over and everything was a sigh of relief. Just imagine if WW2 had gone the other way?
hardscrabble farmer
August 27, 2016 7:52 am
A nation by it’s very definition is an extended family, related by birth (natal) and hence, by blood. It has always been this way until the era of redefining words and meanings to fit current policies and practices. The Founders were quite clear about who and what they thought the makeup of the Nation was intended to be and who it was for. When political leaders altered the policies and laws in deference to those who were not part of the original Nation at the expense of the posterity they won the battle of political wills and dominance over the governed, but they lost the moral high ground even though they pretend to hold it. They violated the contract and that makes it null and void- attempting to use the contract now as a means of enforcing compliance is not only a deliberate falsehood, it makes a mockery of what it means to be a citizen.
Here’s the thing. Multiculturalism is a fallacy. It can only exist for a brief period of history before it reverts- by Nature- to a monocultural society. During the period it exists as a “multicultural” experiment, it can only be maintained through strictly enforced policies that demands people conform to laws and behaviors that did not previously exist in that Nation, so it isn’t really “multicultural” but rather monocultural in practice.
Anything that forces people to live or behave in ways or situations that are unnatural to average, healthy human behaviors (not aberrant and degenerate) is unjust and immoral. It may be enforceable, but it isn’t right.
Life is difficult enough in a healthy, functioning family. Deliberately adding stresses, demanding that people conform to rules and regulations that go against their natural behaviors and inclinations and forcing them to comply not just legally, but in their expressions and beliefs is tyrannical. Again, you can force it if you have enough power, enforcers and weaponry, but it will never be the default system of behaviors and beliefs and it will never become easier to maintain until such time as it is no longer a multicultural environment.
My opinion is irrelevant, what is striking is the message of the two major political parties and both of them, while different on approach, are in lockstep on the challenges and they are “how do we get people to accept cultural transformation of population groups within our borders- and by extension spheres of influence?” The answer is always more laws, more regulation, fewer freedoms, and added expense.
The real question should be “what is the purpose of a Nation and what is the role of it’s government?” It seems to me that we went from a Nation whose population defined it, using government as a protection to having a Government dictate to it’s population how it must behave and live or face punishment or population displacement. The government went from being the family watchdog to the native population now living in a hotel and being forced to be the porters.
On a microcosmic level, should your family photograph include you and your children or a dozen people you have never seen before? Which makes you feel most comfortable? Which one is natural?
Right on, correct, logical, irrefutable, *brilliant, genius, beautifully
articulated, and you defined the difficulty unfettered multi-culturalism presents.
We, the people, the citizens of the US have been abandoned by gov. The bankers, the gov. pac-man style corporations, and all the malicious/greedy betrayers prevail. It is a bitter pill. There is no
rule of law, it has become a gov. for a few connected groups
willing to exploit anyone for a perceived gain. History repeats.
Thank you HSF.
susanna, did you ever know someone who received the government cheese in the 60s, before the idea of handing out paper food stamps became the new distribution system for the poor?
My grandmother got the cheese blocks and would trade the cheese to my mother for chunks of whatever animal recently had been slaughtered or could be soon. Our beef tasted “different” than store-bought, but she hated the tinned meat the government handed out and we loved that cheese.
Anyway, my point is that the only thing the government ever did well was distribute those lovely 5 lb blocks of cheese to the worthy poor.
In the same way I miss that cheese, I miss the competence of a system that actually fed my indigent Granny who had raised 11 children (10 after Donald died of polio in ’52) after her husband’s untimely death at 50-something. With his meager Social Security benefits and public assistance, she was able to use her government commodities to actually feed herself! Even if she traded a block of cheese for several pounds of grass and grain fed beef from her daughter, it was still a far, far cry from being handed a credit card from Uncle Sam that has a cash value on the street.
I fixed that comment… I didn’t realize I’d left a half finished sentence. It was Nick’s fault. He came in here looking for the mice bait (Apparently, there was a spillage of stored wheat in the barn and we are now infested with the critters in one corner that thankfully, was empty except for sealed containers… of heirloom, organic seed. Except one of wheat.
“My grandmother got the cheese blocks and would trade the cheese to my mother for chunks of whatever animal recently had been slaughtered …” —- Maggie
Don’t fuck around with us Maggie. Don’t mince words. We here know exactly the meaning of “whatever animal” ….. RABBITS !!! . You come from a looong line of Rabbit Murderers.
Before the rabbits, it was cattle, Stucky. And deer. And, once in a while, a hog traded to my father for a beef or lumber. I grew up in a world where people bartered without exchanging dollars or sending taxes off quite frequently. Of course, that has changed enormously, with the tax agents authorized to come onto your property to COUNT your animals and can make inquiries in the community as to whether you sell your beef, meat or EGGS! in order to do a property assessment* so I don’t think Grandma would have been able to get quality beef for her cheese these days.
*Okay, no self-respecting county agent is going to go ask anyone if I sell them eggs or rabbits, but I am leaving the HYPERBOLE in because if they wanted to do so, they could. And since the county tax agent here continues to drive up the lane to say hello and see if we’ve done anything with that barn yet, i.e., got any livestock or outbuildings that needs to be added to our property taxes, it very much feels as if we are being investigated.
Edited… I’d forgotten to change the “Not Maggie at all” label. I’m not very good at this subterfuge mirror image thing, am I? What is that called again? a Dopple?
The list for women is short and sweet – I noticed my wife fits it to a tee (I meet women from south and east Asian backgrounds daily that do as well):
SIGNS OF A CLASSY WOMAN
1. Wears subtle make-up
2. Ages gracefully
3. Confidence
4. Never drinks directly from the bottle
5. Accepts compliments graciously
6. Only wears heels she can walk in
7. Always smells nice
8. Doesn’t downplay her intelligence
9. Reveals cleavage sparingly
10. Wears dresses tight enough to show she’s a woman, but loose enough to prove she’s a lady
Then there is this from today’s POW:
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and this:
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Then I look at Vancouver where we have a very Metropolitan style of life. For example the Chinese have been in this region for as long as Europeans roughly and we all seem to get along quite well. Granted we tend to live in our own boroughs but we get along, trade, socialize and don’t fight with one another. The underlying premise being “one law to rule them all, one law to bind them…” 🙂
In our part of the world conflict has tended to arise where the disenfranchised are either imported or encouraged to reproduce. That has included white people and brown people who have always been here.
What this photo represents to me is CLASS and respect. Both are dying concepts in our world and are ideas that are considered antiquated, outdated and oppressive. Unfortunately they are also cornerstones of civilization. And so it goes.
I’d take 100 Asians with class and respect as my neighbours over 1000 Europeans who act like self entitled Neanderthals any day. And the reverse is true also. I suspect if people of my background focused more of their time on raising their children properly and less time on their “shit”, their “image” and their narcissistic life style in general then my culture would be in less danger of pissing itself away.
As I said in the original- “Life is difficult enough in a healthy, functioning family…”
Yes, there are plenty of degenerates and reprobates in our own extended family, that problem isn’t solved by bringing in as many dissimilar people as we can fit on a land mass. I would submit that a great deal of the “people of Wal-Mart” effect is a result of the dissolution of our National identity, most of the photographic record will attest to this despite being repeatedly assured that such a time and place never existed.
But who you gonna believe, the MSM or your own lying eyes?
“Yes, there are plenty of degenerates and reprobates in our own extended family”
And in our immediate. Unfortunately. 🙂
“that problem isn’t solved by bringing in as many dissimilar people as we can fit on a land mass.”
I would agree insofar as we should’t be importing people into our countries in the numbers we do in general – especially illegally. Whether they are from Russia (like my wife’s family) or from the Philippines or wherever the tap should be turned off. Assimilation of ideology is key. I am not Swiss anymore than my father is even though that is where his ancestors hail from. I am Canadian. Western Canadian to be exact. My culture is about a century and half old and has elements of the old world and the new. Things like geography, proximity to other cultures, where our ancestors came from etc all play on who we are. As a result I have more in common with someone from Washington State culturally (but not politically) than I do with someone from Southern Ontario or Michigan. Culture has always been fluid to some degree because it is the result of the decisions made by millions of people living their day to day lives and making choices that are best for themselves. The problem we have, and I am sure those of other races who frequent this board will agree, is that FLOODING the continent with illegal immigrants who will NOT assimilate into the broader culture that exists here is extremely destabilizing. It creates backlash and is similar to fucking with the monetary system in a sense. You create bubbles where you may not have intended to make them and you degrade the overall value of the currency itself (In this case our broader culture).
If we (mostly the USA actually) changed its immigration policy to reflect this reality we likely would not be having this discussion. We’d be letting in small amounts of immigrants over a period of time, allowing them to integrate and selecting the best of the bunch who were the most likely to do so. Unfortunately, your immigration policy (and ours is slowly following suit) is not designed to do this. Quite the opposite. IMHO it’s design and purpose is to destabilize your country. Again – my .02 cents.
The picture is a 1950’s concoction of idealized white bread America. It was a time frozen in the American psyche where father knew best and families grew up with a maidservant in the house. Even the voices used in TV Land are mid-western speakers to disguise the sounds of real America.
The reading books were changed to describe kids as blond cherubs who had nothing better to do than run up hills or watch Spot as he ran and jumped.
The history books never spoke of current events. They covered Mesopotamia and the Arthurian legends. Nothing was mentioned about the dispossession of the Native Americans or the invasion of Mexico where the United States absorbed half the Mexican territory because Monroe dreamed of an empire that would reach from sea to sea.
This bullshit about a country being family, I often hear folks speak of friends as family because it evokes some sense of belonging. Europe would be the place to look for that family. America is a place of strangers. Calvin Coolidge once said that the business of America is business.
America was born fighting and it must keep fighting. There is no time to settle down to a genteel tea-party with dark servants. It must push and grab, rape and kill. Absorb or be absorbed. Fuck or be fucked, deal with life or be dealt with.
There is no crying in baseball and no sympathy for sniveling epicureans who decry the blending of races, the abandonment of manners. America will go on, leaving behind those who cannot adapt, who became stuck in suburbia with the green lawn and backyard pool, with a barbecue and a dog named Spot.
Away with you racial purists who bemoan a lost civilization that only existed in 1950’s TV, you who drink the blood of unknown soldiers and eat the guts of dead Native Americans, who continue to whip the backs of negro slaves for the sake of your memory of beloved Tara.
1Hear this word, you cows of Bashan who are on the mountain of Samaria, Who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, Who say to your husbands, “Bring now, that we may drink!” 2The Lord GOD has sworn by His holiness, “Behold, the days are coming upon you When they will take you away with meat hooks, And the last of you with fish hooks.…
You sound like you’ve given this a little thought.
QP
August 27, 2016 8:21 am
Yes!
The fucking progressives need to stop importing poverty and unemployment.
Future legal immigrants:
– minimum IQ 120
– individuals need to bring $250K of capital
– families need to bring $1 million of capital.
– NO MUSLIMS
– NO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS (redundant with IQ requirement)
fart face
August 27, 2016 8:44 am
Nothing wrong with the picture. It’s what u can’t see that is the problem. The husband is a drunk gun nut, the wife is a whore who sleeps with the milkman and has a thing for black guys. The son plays with barbies and wants to be a girl and the daughter is a bully.
Not sure if true in the ’50s, but thanks to the aftereffects of the ’60s and ’70s, certainly true by the ’80s, which is why the whole thing was successfully torn down in the ’90s and ’00s and now gets mocked in the ’10s. After the inevitable carnage of the ’20s, who knows what will replace it for the ’30s?
Dan, my son is 22, about to graduate from a decent engineering school in the midwest. His friends are definitely millennials, albeit clever ones. They hang out and discuss things they did over the summer at various millennial-haven activities. My son joined a gym to learn some sort of hand-to-hand martial arts technique that involves wrapping long strands of what looks like corded velvet around his wrists and fingers to wrestle. He said he enjoyed the more physical demanding elements over Tae Kwon Do, which he has previously studied. Other than that? He devotes his brilliant mind to the love of Smash Brothers Tournaments, along with his friends, both male and female. Believe it or not, a growing number of young female adults are showing a retro-level fondness for the cast of the old Nintendo Mario Brothers video game. I don’t understand it, but am very glad his father and I managed to steer him toward a lucrative career before the Smash Brothers tournament fad hit nerdville. My son actually WON a Smash Bros. tournament he attended and brought home a cash prize. If he was not in his senior semester(s) with a good internship career behind him, I would be terrified.
So, the family of the 30s will include at least one Pokemon character OR be fathered by Mario or Luigi.
It doesn’t take much of a cyberjump to imagine a family based very much on the technology Pokemon Go relies upon. Need a husband/wife? well, collect enough spouse credits and achieve marital level status and you can “capture” a virtual one and take them home for training. The walls of your home can be adapted to incorporate your virtual spouse into any activity you are performing, at least visually.
If you read Fahrenheit 451, you will recognize the theme.
There an Outer Limits broadcast we actually receive through the air here that shows Valerie 23, an android companion for a widower designed to care for his home and two children. Eventually, she is re-programmed to kill him to protect his children, but is that too far away?
Admin, this “edit” feature gets dangerous for an easily distracted poster like me.
Maggie – hope he is at Purdue, Michigan, or Illinois.
Gator
August 27, 2016 9:26 am
Agree. Thats a beautiful picture. Its not just the multiculturalism part thats the problem either, with importing vast amounts of third worlders. The most offensive notion to me these days is that the family depicted in the photo is the quintessential American family that built this country, and yet is now expected to apologize and grovel at the feet of other races who owe their entire existence to white people. Its getting really old. Nowadays, a picture of a family like that results in mockery and criticism. Maybe if that guy was replaced with a bull dyke with a mullet it would be acceptable.
bb
August 27, 2016 9:52 am
The pictures tells us what so many hate.The leftists progressives and many republicans are nothing but traitors. They have betrayed us .Sold us out for money or power.
Progressives are nothing but envious thieves who are using third world scum to destroy what is left of white America.Follow the money and you will know the primary Tribe paying these people to destroy us.This tribe hates white America as much as the Bolsheviks hated ethnic Russians.
ragman
August 27, 2016 10:06 am
That’s pretty much the way it was until the immigration act of 1965. America was colonized by White Europeans, predominately Englishmen. We accepted immigrants from all over Europe. This stopped in the 20s and there was basically no immigration for forty years. This allowed for assimilation of the new immigrants. Everything changed in 1965 and for the worse. Take a look around you to see the results of this bullshit. I definitely like the way it WAS!
Stucky
Author
August 27, 2016 10:39 am
Fabulous comments so far. At this juncture, let’s give the Gold Medal to hardscrabble farmer.
I almost added a second question: “Where will you never ever see this picture again?”. Of course, the answer is …. television, which holds the values/ideals that picture represents in utter contempt.
Reminds me of the Golden Age of America before the Judeo-Communist took over and imposed their Cultural Communism using their printed blood money. Patriots support Trump because we want the real America to rise again.
nkit
August 27, 2016 12:58 pm
I believe that most of us, especially those of us that were alive in that era, look upon the picture and perhaps crack a smile as we recall the innocence, the freedoms, morals and customs that prevailed. Some of us certainly yearn for a return to that which prevailed in those halcyon days, but those days have been turned to sand by the waves of time and change. Change. As we are frequently reminded, when we examine today’s culture, it is not always for the better.
While I, and others like me, look at this picture and see that which is good, wholesome and perhaps even pious, the Progressives, Cultural Marxists, Social Justice Warriors – the Alt-Left – look at this picture with feelings of disdain and derision. They see a family, a family that is lily-white and heterosexual, and thus a target for their scorn. They see a lack of diversity within the family and shudder at how things must have been before multiculturalism and the beauty of widespread miscegenation.
They see a father, a head of household – a well manicured corporate sort of fellow sans the face piercings and tattoos. They see a man that if he hasn’t already engaged in corporal punishment of his children, he soon will, and they feel self-righteousness in their alleged successes of parenting in the post-dinosaur world. They see a man who fancies himself as the king of his castle – a ruler – and most likely an unjust ruler of his fiefdom. Mostly, they see a capitalist business man that is out to cheat someone before they cheat him.
They see a mother, a poor non-liberated mother with an anchor tied to each leg – anchors that hold her back and prevent her from being that which she obviously really longs for, because as we know today, the life of a housewife is no less than the life of a plantation slave. They see a woman they assume to be subservient, dutiful and even grateful to, and for, her husband. They see her modest attire and scoff at what they perceive as her lack of individuality, false virtue and self-value.
Looking at the two children they despair at the thought of having to be raised in a heterosexually all-white family. They see children that they believe will be wrongly and unfairly taught Christian values and morals; children that will be taught the meaning of a work ethic and meritocracy, and they shudder at the thought of such Stone Age beliefs being forced upon children that are better raised by the village. They see two children that will be raised and dressed according to their birth genders – children that will be denied the freedom to decide their own gender – a barbarous thought if there ever was one.
Mostly, I suspect, they bathe in laughter and pride at how much they have been able to destroy, of what that picture represents to them, by using the power of their God, the Almighty State to force their views upon those less enlightened than them.
Is or has there ever been anything more beautiful in life than Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady? I think not….
Maggie
August 27, 2016 1:02 pm
Stucky, forgive me for repeating from a reply from above, but I am curious to see your reaction to where my musings took me when asked what a family would look like in twenty years (above by a commenter). Since my son is 22, about to graduate from a decent engineering school in the midwest. His friends are definitely millennials, albeit clever ones. They hang out and discuss things they did over the summer at various millennial-haven activities. My son joined a gym to learn some sort of hand-to-hand martial arts technique that involves wrapping long strands of what looks like corded velvet around his wrists and fingers to wrestle. He said he enjoyed the more physical demanding elements over Tae Kwon Do, which he has previously studied. Other than that? He devotes his brilliant mind to the love of Smash Brothers Tournaments, along with his friends, both male and female. Believe it or not, a growing number of young female adults are showing a retro-level fondness for the cast of the old Nintendo Mario Brothers video game. I don’t understand it, but am very glad his father and I managed to steer him toward a lucrative career before the Smash Brothers tournament fad hit nerdville. My son actually WON a Smash Bros. tournament he attended and brought home a cash prize. If he was not in his senior semester(s) with a good internship career behind him, I would be terrified.
So, the family of the 30s will include at least one Pokemon character OR be fathered by Mario or Luigi., whom you will see interacting with the kids on any of the walls of their cyber-enabled home.
Stucky
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August 27, 2016 1:14 pm
” …. but I am curious to see your reaction to where my musings took me when asked what a family would look like in twenty years …” —Maggie
I simply have no idea.
Why? Twenty years ago, …. could I in my wildest imaginations imagine how crazy-fuked-up things would be in Amerika today? Absolutely not. Changes are happening too fast and too furious for me to even venture a guess.
That being said, I am a pessimist in this regard, so, I think it will be for the worse. Honestly, this very morning Ms Freud said to me — “It’s no fun getting older, but I wouldn’t would to start a family in this day and age.”
What is your reaction to my idea for a cyber-family collected much like the characters of Pokemon Go and displayed on the walls of one’s home?
Bea Lever
August 27, 2016 1:36 pm
Stucky has hit on the key element, until we abandon tv en masse we are doomed to become the mixed mongrel nation the elites have planned.
The cover of Time illustrated the future mongrel human worker slaves which brought to mind (at least for me) Rae Dawn Chong, part asian,white,black with a smidge of hispanic for good measure.
This blended human was also featured in a remake of “The Time Machine”. Now, let me point out the elites only marry within a few bloodlines and some like the DuPonts intermarry within thier family so no wonder they are fucked up and completely insane.
Over time the elites refusal to expand their gene pool has created a ruling class that suffer from insanity to such a degree with such arrogance that it is now plain to see the whackos are running the farm. They dictate our future gene pool while they continue to obliterate their own.
We either have to start shutting out the programming to save ourselves and have the guts to turn the criminals into poor people or live with the death of the white race. Can you tune out?
What was the DuPont scandal that erupted a few years ago? did it have to do with that cult that committed mass suicide in advance of being resurrected by the spaceship they claimed to be hiding behind the moon?
When I was in my early 20s, I stayed with a friend whose children attended school in a “suburb” of Muskogee, Oklahoma. One day, the youngest brought home something he was to memorize for Presidents’ Day. It claimed that the blessings of liberty should be secured for “for ourselves and our posterior.”
I made a point to explain to my friend’s wife that it really did MATTER that the teacher had written it wrong and then made copies for all of her second-graders to memorize forever and ever. I was not able to convince the young lady that it mattered at all.
Barticus, Did the framers have the whole continent in mind?
They were legislators, you dolt, they were not angels who walked on water.
Wouldn’t they have made provisions for Native Americans with whom they had signed treaties?
And where exactly do you read into it that your sorry ass was included in the ‘for ourselves and our posterity’? While you may be the posterior, you are not the posterity mentioned unless you are in the social register as one of the Mayflower descendants.
Filo
August 27, 2016 4:38 pm
You idiots are being manipulated into a nativist foaming frenzy by an immigrant Austrian whose own childhood does not match the picture. Stick to chasing strings, morans. I’m winning! Look at all the down thumbs.
Vodka
August 27, 2016 5:41 pm
The little boy in the photo had to wear shorts and a sweater. And seeing no scabs on either knee makes me fear that the poor little shaver might’ve ended up being a Sociology major. Let’s hope he at least had a dog, tree house, and BB gun.
Dad appears to be wearing his class ring. Not good, because you can’t bowl with it on. Hopefully he was a STEM major to partially redeem for wearing the ring.
The little girl looks to be a promising future Homemaker. Like she should.
Mom is a beauty. I bet she makes a sandwich on demand, fetches a beer without complaint, and puts-out for hubby even when he was out with the boys ’til 1AM.
All photos are a bit of a lie, but when we like the lie we go along with it.
Anonymous
August 27, 2016 7:14 pm
. but I am curious to see your reaction to where my musings took me when asked what a family would look like in twenty years …” —Maggie-Well Sick Perverted Twisted Obama approved inter species breeding.Why?
EEEEEWWWWWWEEEE. Yuck. I went android, but not THERE…
Jimmy Torpedo
August 27, 2016 9:32 pm
According to the Multicultural Act of 1988 in Canada, that photo is illegal. Too many white people is actually against the law here. Can’t have good values being transmitted now can we. More Sharia law, more feminism, more “cultural integration” makes us stronger ( or at least pays the bills for unfunded liabilities).
That’s why I am an immigrant to a homogenous country in Central America.
Llpoh
August 28, 2016 1:09 am
Don’t know about anyone else, but in my American lineage, which undoubtably extends back further than anyone else’s around here, that picture never existed.
In fact, in general, that pictured existed for relatively few, and for a relatively short period.
Take the 1800s. An agrarian period. Short lifespans. Minimal education for most. Asses shot off in civil war. Robber barons. Etc.
Early 1900s – ditto. Plus a Great Depression that bit a great many in the ass. Followed by getting entangled in WW2, where a few hundred thousand Americans got their asses shot off. (Common theme that.)
Then the “middle class”. 1950s until it started to disintegrate in the 1980s. The great heyday. The time of plenty. Unless of course you got
drafted/killed/maimed in Koorea or Nam. There us that theme again.
After 1980 comes the unravelling. Family break-ups. Debt fuelled lifestyle. Declining morals. Rampant and uncontrolled abuse of political power. Welfare. Etc.
So, the lifestyle shown existed for around 30 years out of 250, IF you were not one of the true unfortunates of the Dust Bowl (generations to overcome that misfortune of birth), Korea, Viet Nam, etc.
That life was at best a mirage, springing from not being destroyed in WW2, and from having an abundance of resources. The Great Plains food bowl, oil, coal, timber, iron ore, etc., and no WW2 damage = Eureka!
That good fortune morphed into a belief that ‘Murika! Hell yeah! was entitled to dominate the world, drain resources, go into massive debt, and never have to pay the piper.
And now the Great Disintigration awaits.
Not sure when that idyllic picture was the norm, because it NEVER existed in my family. Hard times were followed by somewhat less hard times by excruciating hard time by lesser hard times.
Life was a struggle. And will continue so. Many folks have forgot that. That the laws of nature and economics somehow have been altered. Nope. They are same as they ever was.
And boy those immutable laws are going to play merry hell with those who have forgotten or never learned that life was never meant to be easy.
Only by the sweat of one’s brow, the commitment to family and friends, and the ability to persever and endure in the face of enormous hardship can survival be assured.
That picture is a worthy goal to be pursued – family, modest affluence, peace and tranquility. But it is not the reality for most. Never has been, and I doubt it ever will be.
But, most of us grew up in a time when we personally knew at least one member of THAT family whose existence in the 50s through the 80s seemed absolutely perfect. We LONGED to be a member of THAT family and we are now just as envious of THAT family as we ever were. (We and us are being used as a collective term for current Murikan society.)
Perhaps THAT family has a lot more to do with the current state of Murikan politics than we realize.
Filo
August 28, 2016 2:04 am
Thank you, LLPOH for that sober background to my rant above.
Thank you, HF for your honest consideration and reply.
The rest of the lemmings can suck eggs.
jamesthewanderer
August 28, 2016 2:27 am
Filo, you are not being downvoted because of your views; you’re being downvoted because there are enough of us who still remember BEING part of that picture, before the slow decline turned into a downward accelerating spiral.
My dad’s folks left Germany because they saw Hitler rising and wanted no part of it. My mother’s folks mostly fought for the South during the War of Northern Aggression, and were all too poor (as far as we know) to have owned any slaves. Both were considered white, and lived through WWII, where Dad went to the Pacific to fly combat aircraft while Mom lived and worked on the homefront (they had not met at the time). After the war Dad got an engineering degree on the G. I. Bill, met Mom and started having kids. Five of us grew up in that picture in Texas and Tennessee during the fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties.
And we were legion; they were building schools every year to hold the increasing crops of students. This lasted until about the eighties or so, when the wave crested and some places started tearing down schools or remodeling existing ones slightly to handle the reduced numbers of children. This to me coincides with Womens’ Lib, increased work outside the home, nihilistic leftist philosophy taking over the schools and culture, and similar forces.
That we downvote you is not because we are morally weak or superior, it’s because we remember being a part of that picture. Just because you weren’t doesn’t mean it didn’t exist – that advertising was created to appeal to a LARGE group, it just wasn’t disaffected urban youth on drugs, decay and depravity – which were still a minority then.
Above, in reply to llpoh, I tried to imply that the envy created by the existence of THAT family in the 50s, 60s and 70s brought us to the social unrest that is destroying what is left of Apple Pie Murika.
Thanks, Jimbo, for that personal recap. You must understand that Stucky was aiming for a shitfest but all I got out of the comments was a snivelfest and it pissed me off. It was not the down votes, shit, that only made me happy to see somebody read my screed.
Peeps here are coming off a 30 year high and wanting more. I have read enough of LLPOH’s comments to shed the scales from my eyes, America in the 50’s was an illusion. You lived it, great.
I protested strongly against the idea that the framers of the constitution intended their plan for white people by white people forever and ever.
Airman — said that when you are dealing with people, you are dealing with variables. People do not mutate, but they don’t clone either. Go back to any point in human history and people were blending by all available means; rape, conquest, subjugation. The framers could not have meant white people only because the characteristics of white people have changed since their time.
I protested strongly against the idea that the framers of the constitution meant only their progeny because few people of the 330 millions living in the USA can trace their lineage back to the the framers, let alone the 13 colonies.
These legislators may have meant their progeny, which they called posterity, and they may have meant their white race alone. But they were not prophets to envision the extension of America to include most of the continent. They can’t have envisioned the American empire. Yet, today, we have Trumpists who use this perverted interpretation of the constitution to justify calling non-whites and even the rest of the world, illegal aliens, making them strangers in their own lands.
America, Fuck Yeah! is the battle cry of a world bully using the perverted words of its constitution to justify the dispossession of native peoples everywhere because that was the will and purpose of the framers of its piece of paper. In time, we shall all carry a copy of the constitution like the Khans to justify our Bush II, Obama, Trump, Clinton crusades to take back the world for America, Fuck Yeah!
What the Framers intended is tough to determine, across a filter of 200+ years and a revisionist history corrupted by those with agendas to destroy what they created, but I’ll give it a try – they meant for those with the gumption, grit and drive to cross oceans to reach America to be free. Free from oppression, free from unrepresented taxation, and free from CONTROL. Control implies controllers, another form of oppression, and the 2nd amendment was a recognition that oppressors never sleep.
They only left hints, but I would hope that their idea of fair dealings with all nations (including the Indian nations) and avoiding entangling foreign alliances was intended to ensure we behaved morally and responsibly in our international dealings. There would be trade, and the tariffs thereon would support a SMALL Federal government. There would be wars, and the armed forces would be drawn from the citizenry (all armed as per the 2nd amendment) and disbanded between wars until needed. There would be expansion and development, and provisions were made to create new states; the Jefferson Purchase would be the ideal way to expand the country. So on and so on, forever.
They meant, I think, that we would continue to respect each other. Slavery was not successfully addressed, and the War of Northern Aggression was the result. After that, it all went downhill, although the Jackson administration was not a paragon of how to deal with the natives. But it really went downhill with Reconstruction, and various other bad ideas afterward.
I think they meant that everyone would assimilate, and we managed that for a hundred years and more. Germans and Poles and Italians and even Chinese (to build a railroad) managed to come and get along together. There were riots and various other exceptions, but the Swedes blended in, some Latinos (not all) and lots of others managed. It only took agreement on how to make laws, how to enforce laws and how to organize the shell.
But as the FedGov accumulated lands, wealth and power, the country was changed. Somehow it was OK for the Feds to own most of the west; eastern interests got rich, but western numbers were kept low to prevent them from outvoting the eastern interests on anything that mattered. Power shifted with the direct election of Senators, to dilute states’ ability to check and balance the Feds. The government went from a necessary evil (forty+ states can’t act together without a common foreign policy) to an end in itself; this is unstable, infeasible and counters the rights of the people. The Tenth amendment became an empty shell.
The rights that the Framers failed to explicitly call out (the right to privacy, the right to be left alone, the right to be free of intrusive legislation) were eroded, and then the ones that they DID call out: freedom from arbitrary search and seizure? Try driving across the country and see how often they stop you. Freedom from compelled testimony against yourself? Every arrest these days contains a grab of cell phone, tablet, home computer and records from everyone who you did business with. The Framers fought to end these, and the Moderns put them back in to CONTROL you.
Nowadays, the freedoms are few and the laws are many. I cannot believe the Framers wanted this, for themselves or anyone who came here to become part of America, be they rich, poor, given nationality, creed or education. (Exception: no Islam, since Jefferson fought the Barbary pirates over conscription of sailors as slaves). Feel free to disagree, but that’s what I think the Framers wanted, and it is a measure of how far we have degenerated to compare that short summary with what we have now.
Llpoh
August 28, 2016 5:29 am
James – it existed for few and for a short period. Glad you experienced it. No one from either side of my family back as far as records exist experienced that reality. There has always been a poor class. Always.
Thirty years of an affluent middle class out of 250 years does not constitute reality – it is a blip in time. And it will not repeat in our lifetimes. If ever. That lifestyle requires a person to excel against global competition. I do not know about you, but I do not see a lot of excelling going on. Mostly I see sheeple who believe they are entitled to that middle class lifestyle, but are ill-prepared to earn it, and certainly not disposed to work hard enough to so do.
We didn’t think we were rich – five kids on one man’s salary? My Dad went overseas in his 50’s to try to finally get enough to retire on. He joined a civilian contractor for the Air Force about 1963; managed to raise his kids to college age before it got too tight. The wild thing is he was making about $1,000 / year more when he left than when he joined – how he put up with that is amazing to me. But it was enough, back then, to make the payments on the house, put groceries on the table, buy a new car once or twice, and have a few creature comforts (8-track tape deck? Various small kitchen appliances? Yeah, we were RICH!) And he was a mechanical engineer, and did a lot of his own building, repairing, and so forth. He put a new wing on the farmhouse with child labor (us!), and the concrete cinder block foundation, wiring, fixtures, sheetrock, he did it all. It still stands, although I think he would have pitched the roof instead of the flat roof if he’d thought more about it. Whatever, it served us for decades until we went out on our own, and my Mom lives there now.
Those around us probably didn’t think we were rich either. No private schools for us, no expensive vacations (we generally went back to visit relatives in Texas for the holidays; Dad would drive ten or fifteen hours in one stretch, crash for a day and be up for the next breakfast). We did what we could, and if twenty thousand a year or so put you in the middle class, then we were middle class.
But we didn’t spend a lot of time on envy; I think that’s what destroys society now. The rich were thought to have earned it honestly, and that’s rarely the case now. The rich were thought to be out for themselves just like everyone else, but not as predatory as Zuckerberg and other scammers / spies / thieves like Madoff were now. Maybe we were naive, but I think our elites have betrayed America just as surely as Hillary has, and that may explain part of Trump’s appeal; he hasn’t already sold out America to the highest bidder as Hillary did as SOS.
The awakening is coming, is in progress now. The elites will find no one to speak for them, and plenty to speak against them. Those who can will rebuild, hopefully with safeguards against future abuse; but safeguards can be corroded, as the Founders’ were. A vigilant citizenry, alert to lies, theft and corruption, is the only lasting bulwark against tyranny, and we will relearn this lesson again, this Fourth Turning.
Rob in Nova Scotia
August 28, 2016 6:59 am
Everything is ildyllic, even poverty, in Kodachrome.
Agree with, and why not.
Or, do some people prefer living in a cardboard box next to 500 acres of a garbage dump. Life is what it is and it is unfair. For 70 years, the U.S. gov’t has given tons and tons of money to countries around the world living in abject poverty. All kinds of organizations have provided humanitarian assistance (Christian Charities, many Medical programs, etc.).
After all this what do we see – poverty squared due to the population explosions.
Luck – be appreciative you weren’t born next to the garbage pit. Live your life as best you can – your attempt to save the world only makes it worse.
Absolutely YES!
The freedom we have is the freedom we TAKE. When it comes to government, true free people need to “fly below the radar” as most “laws and statutes” are unconstitutional. From all amendments put in place after the Bill of Rights to all rulings by our so-called “supreme court” and “alphabet agencies”, they are all “null and void”…
Nothing is intended, it is only achieved. The 1950’s were the last times of innocence in America, WW2 was recently over and everything was a sigh of relief. Just imagine if WW2 had gone the other way?
A nation by it’s very definition is an extended family, related by birth (natal) and hence, by blood. It has always been this way until the era of redefining words and meanings to fit current policies and practices. The Founders were quite clear about who and what they thought the makeup of the Nation was intended to be and who it was for. When political leaders altered the policies and laws in deference to those who were not part of the original Nation at the expense of the posterity they won the battle of political wills and dominance over the governed, but they lost the moral high ground even though they pretend to hold it. They violated the contract and that makes it null and void- attempting to use the contract now as a means of enforcing compliance is not only a deliberate falsehood, it makes a mockery of what it means to be a citizen.
Here’s the thing. Multiculturalism is a fallacy. It can only exist for a brief period of history before it reverts- by Nature- to a monocultural society. During the period it exists as a “multicultural” experiment, it can only be maintained through strictly enforced policies that demands people conform to laws and behaviors that did not previously exist in that Nation, so it isn’t really “multicultural” but rather monocultural in practice.
Anything that forces people to live or behave in ways or situations that are unnatural to average, healthy human behaviors (not aberrant and degenerate) is unjust and immoral. It may be enforceable, but it isn’t right.
Life is difficult enough in a healthy, functioning family. Deliberately adding stresses, demanding that people conform to rules and regulations that go against their natural behaviors and inclinations and forcing them to comply not just legally, but in their expressions and beliefs is tyrannical. Again, you can force it if you have enough power, enforcers and weaponry, but it will never be the default system of behaviors and beliefs and it will never become easier to maintain until such time as it is no longer a multicultural environment.
My opinion is irrelevant, what is striking is the message of the two major political parties and both of them, while different on approach, are in lockstep on the challenges and they are “how do we get people to accept cultural transformation of population groups within our borders- and by extension spheres of influence?” The answer is always more laws, more regulation, fewer freedoms, and added expense.
The real question should be “what is the purpose of a Nation and what is the role of it’s government?” It seems to me that we went from a Nation whose population defined it, using government as a protection to having a Government dictate to it’s population how it must behave and live or face punishment or population displacement. The government went from being the family watchdog to the native population now living in a hotel and being forced to be the porters.
On a microcosmic level, should your family photograph include you and your children or a dozen people you have never seen before? Which makes you feel most comfortable? Which one is natural?
Right on, correct, logical, irrefutable, *brilliant, genius, beautifully
articulated, and you defined the difficulty unfettered multi-culturalism presents.
We, the people, the citizens of the US have been abandoned by gov. The bankers, the gov. pac-man style corporations, and all the malicious/greedy betrayers prevail. It is a bitter pill. There is no
rule of law, it has become a gov. for a few connected groups
willing to exploit anyone for a perceived gain. History repeats.
Thank you HSF.
susanna, did you ever know someone who received the government cheese in the 60s, before the idea of handing out paper food stamps became the new distribution system for the poor?
My grandmother got the cheese blocks and would trade the cheese to my mother for chunks of whatever animal recently had been slaughtered or could be soon. Our beef tasted “different” than store-bought, but she hated the tinned meat the government handed out and we loved that cheese.
Anyway, my point is that the only thing the government ever did well was distribute those lovely 5 lb blocks of cheese to the worthy poor.
In the same way I miss that cheese, I miss the competence of a system that actually fed my indigent Granny who had raised 11 children (10 after Donald died of polio in ’52) after her husband’s untimely death at 50-something. With his meager Social Security benefits and public assistance, she was able to use her government commodities to actually feed herself! Even if she traded a block of cheese for several pounds of grass and grain fed beef from her daughter, it was still a far, far cry from being handed a credit card from Uncle Sam that has a cash value on the street.
I fixed that comment… I didn’t realize I’d left a half finished sentence. It was Nick’s fault. He came in here looking for the mice bait (Apparently, there was a spillage of stored wheat in the barn and we are now infested with the critters in one corner that thankfully, was empty except for sealed containers… of heirloom, organic seed. Except one of wheat.
“My grandmother got the cheese blocks and would trade the cheese to my mother for chunks of whatever animal recently had been slaughtered …” —- Maggie
Don’t fuck around with us Maggie. Don’t mince words. We here know exactly the meaning of “whatever animal” ….. RABBITS !!! . You come from a looong line of Rabbit Murderers.
Before the rabbits, it was cattle, Stucky. And deer. And, once in a while, a hog traded to my father for a beef or lumber. I grew up in a world where people bartered without exchanging dollars or sending taxes off quite frequently. Of course, that has changed enormously, with the tax agents authorized to come onto your property to COUNT your animals and can make inquiries in the community as to whether you sell your beef, meat or EGGS! in order to do a property assessment* so I don’t think Grandma would have been able to get quality beef for her cheese these days.
*Okay, no self-respecting county agent is going to go ask anyone if I sell them eggs or rabbits, but I am leaving the HYPERBOLE in because if they wanted to do so, they could. And since the county tax agent here continues to drive up the lane to say hello and see if we’ve done anything with that barn yet, i.e., got any livestock or outbuildings that needs to be added to our property taxes, it very much feels as if we are being investigated.
Edited… I’d forgotten to change the “Not Maggie at all” label. I’m not very good at this subterfuge mirror image thing, am I? What is that called again? a Dopple?
Yeah, that link is not going to get a lot of traffic here.
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Looks safe.
It was in reference to dead rabbits and william poole – the history channel
I dunno HSF. When I see photo’s like this from the People of Walmart:
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I question how important it is that everyone be of the same background.
Class, intelligence, morality and an ability to make good decisions may be genetic (maybe) but I’m not sure they are exclusive to a particular race.
Interesting piece from Lew Rockwell via Mail Online regarding class:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3756338/How-classy-50-things-reveal-brought-including-shopping-Waitrose-holding-doors-open.html
The list for women is short and sweet – I noticed my wife fits it to a tee (I meet women from south and east Asian backgrounds daily that do as well):
SIGNS OF A CLASSY WOMAN
1. Wears subtle make-up
2. Ages gracefully
3. Confidence
4. Never drinks directly from the bottle
5. Accepts compliments graciously
6. Only wears heels she can walk in
7. Always smells nice
8. Doesn’t downplay her intelligence
9. Reveals cleavage sparingly
10. Wears dresses tight enough to show she’s a woman, but loose enough to prove she’s a lady
Then there is this from today’s POW:
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and this:
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Then I look at Vancouver where we have a very Metropolitan style of life. For example the Chinese have been in this region for as long as Europeans roughly and we all seem to get along quite well. Granted we tend to live in our own boroughs but we get along, trade, socialize and don’t fight with one another. The underlying premise being “one law to rule them all, one law to bind them…” 🙂
In our part of the world conflict has tended to arise where the disenfranchised are either imported or encouraged to reproduce. That has included white people and brown people who have always been here.
What this photo represents to me is CLASS and respect. Both are dying concepts in our world and are ideas that are considered antiquated, outdated and oppressive. Unfortunately they are also cornerstones of civilization. And so it goes.
I’d take 100 Asians with class and respect as my neighbours over 1000 Europeans who act like self entitled Neanderthals any day. And the reverse is true also. I suspect if people of my background focused more of their time on raising their children properly and less time on their “shit”, their “image” and their narcissistic life style in general then my culture would be in less danger of pissing itself away.
Just my .02 cents
As I said in the original- “Life is difficult enough in a healthy, functioning family…”
Yes, there are plenty of degenerates and reprobates in our own extended family, that problem isn’t solved by bringing in as many dissimilar people as we can fit on a land mass. I would submit that a great deal of the “people of Wal-Mart” effect is a result of the dissolution of our National identity, most of the photographic record will attest to this despite being repeatedly assured that such a time and place never existed.
But who you gonna believe, the MSM or your own lying eyes?
“Yes, there are plenty of degenerates and reprobates in our own extended family”
And in our immediate. Unfortunately. 🙂
“that problem isn’t solved by bringing in as many dissimilar people as we can fit on a land mass.”
I would agree insofar as we should’t be importing people into our countries in the numbers we do in general – especially illegally. Whether they are from Russia (like my wife’s family) or from the Philippines or wherever the tap should be turned off. Assimilation of ideology is key. I am not Swiss anymore than my father is even though that is where his ancestors hail from. I am Canadian. Western Canadian to be exact. My culture is about a century and half old and has elements of the old world and the new. Things like geography, proximity to other cultures, where our ancestors came from etc all play on who we are. As a result I have more in common with someone from Washington State culturally (but not politically) than I do with someone from Southern Ontario or Michigan. Culture has always been fluid to some degree because it is the result of the decisions made by millions of people living their day to day lives and making choices that are best for themselves. The problem we have, and I am sure those of other races who frequent this board will agree, is that FLOODING the continent with illegal immigrants who will NOT assimilate into the broader culture that exists here is extremely destabilizing. It creates backlash and is similar to fucking with the monetary system in a sense. You create bubbles where you may not have intended to make them and you degrade the overall value of the currency itself (In this case our broader culture).
If we (mostly the USA actually) changed its immigration policy to reflect this reality we likely would not be having this discussion. We’d be letting in small amounts of immigrants over a period of time, allowing them to integrate and selecting the best of the bunch who were the most likely to do so. Unfortunately, your immigration policy (and ours is slowly following suit) is not designed to do this. Quite the opposite. IMHO it’s design and purpose is to destabilize your country. Again – my .02 cents.
The picture is a 1950’s concoction of idealized white bread America. It was a time frozen in the American psyche where father knew best and families grew up with a maidservant in the house. Even the voices used in TV Land are mid-western speakers to disguise the sounds of real America.
The reading books were changed to describe kids as blond cherubs who had nothing better to do than run up hills or watch Spot as he ran and jumped.
The history books never spoke of current events. They covered Mesopotamia and the Arthurian legends. Nothing was mentioned about the dispossession of the Native Americans or the invasion of Mexico where the United States absorbed half the Mexican territory because Monroe dreamed of an empire that would reach from sea to sea.
This bullshit about a country being family, I often hear folks speak of friends as family because it evokes some sense of belonging. Europe would be the place to look for that family. America is a place of strangers. Calvin Coolidge once said that the business of America is business.
America was born fighting and it must keep fighting. There is no time to settle down to a genteel tea-party with dark servants. It must push and grab, rape and kill. Absorb or be absorbed. Fuck or be fucked, deal with life or be dealt with.
There is no crying in baseball and no sympathy for sniveling epicureans who decry the blending of races, the abandonment of manners. America will go on, leaving behind those who cannot adapt, who became stuck in suburbia with the green lawn and backyard pool, with a barbecue and a dog named Spot.
Away with you racial purists who bemoan a lost civilization that only existed in 1950’s TV, you who drink the blood of unknown soldiers and eat the guts of dead Native Americans, who continue to whip the backs of negro slaves for the sake of your memory of beloved Tara.
1Hear this word, you cows of Bashan who are on the mountain of Samaria, Who oppress the poor, who crush the needy, Who say to your husbands, “Bring now, that we may drink!” 2The Lord GOD has sworn by His holiness, “Behold, the days are coming upon you When they will take you away with meat hooks, And the last of you with fish hooks.…
You sound like you’ve given this a little thought.
Yes!
The fucking progressives need to stop importing poverty and unemployment.
Future legal immigrants:
– minimum IQ 120
– individuals need to bring $250K of capital
– families need to bring $1 million of capital.
– NO MUSLIMS
– NO SUB-SAHARAN AFRICANS (redundant with IQ requirement)
Nothing wrong with the picture. It’s what u can’t see that is the problem. The husband is a drunk gun nut, the wife is a whore who sleeps with the milkman and has a thing for black guys. The son plays with barbies and wants to be a girl and the daughter is a bully.
Not sure if true in the ’50s, but thanks to the aftereffects of the ’60s and ’70s, certainly true by the ’80s, which is why the whole thing was successfully torn down in the ’90s and ’00s and now gets mocked in the ’10s. After the inevitable carnage of the ’20s, who knows what will replace it for the ’30s?
Dan, my son is 22, about to graduate from a decent engineering school in the midwest. His friends are definitely millennials, albeit clever ones. They hang out and discuss things they did over the summer at various millennial-haven activities. My son joined a gym to learn some sort of hand-to-hand martial arts technique that involves wrapping long strands of what looks like corded velvet around his wrists and fingers to wrestle. He said he enjoyed the more physical demanding elements over Tae Kwon Do, which he has previously studied. Other than that? He devotes his brilliant mind to the love of Smash Brothers Tournaments, along with his friends, both male and female. Believe it or not, a growing number of young female adults are showing a retro-level fondness for the cast of the old Nintendo Mario Brothers video game. I don’t understand it, but am very glad his father and I managed to steer him toward a lucrative career before the Smash Brothers tournament fad hit nerdville. My son actually WON a Smash Bros. tournament he attended and brought home a cash prize. If he was not in his senior semester(s) with a good internship career behind him, I would be terrified.
So, the family of the 30s will include at least one Pokemon character OR be fathered by Mario or Luigi.
It doesn’t take much of a cyberjump to imagine a family based very much on the technology Pokemon Go relies upon. Need a husband/wife? well, collect enough spouse credits and achieve marital level status and you can “capture” a virtual one and take them home for training. The walls of your home can be adapted to incorporate your virtual spouse into any activity you are performing, at least visually.
If you read Fahrenheit 451, you will recognize the theme.
There an Outer Limits broadcast we actually receive through the air here that shows Valerie 23, an android companion for a widower designed to care for his home and two children. Eventually, she is re-programmed to kill him to protect his children, but is that too far away?
Admin, this “edit” feature gets dangerous for an easily distracted poster like me.
Maggie – hope he is at Purdue, Michigan, or Illinois.
Agree. Thats a beautiful picture. Its not just the multiculturalism part thats the problem either, with importing vast amounts of third worlders. The most offensive notion to me these days is that the family depicted in the photo is the quintessential American family that built this country, and yet is now expected to apologize and grovel at the feet of other races who owe their entire existence to white people. Its getting really old. Nowadays, a picture of a family like that results in mockery and criticism. Maybe if that guy was replaced with a bull dyke with a mullet it would be acceptable.
The pictures tells us what so many hate.The leftists progressives and many republicans are nothing but traitors. They have betrayed us .Sold us out for money or power.
Progressives are nothing but envious thieves who are using third world scum to destroy what is left of white America.Follow the money and you will know the primary Tribe paying these people to destroy us.This tribe hates white America as much as the Bolsheviks hated ethnic Russians.
That’s pretty much the way it was until the immigration act of 1965. America was colonized by White Europeans, predominately Englishmen. We accepted immigrants from all over Europe. This stopped in the 20s and there was basically no immigration for forty years. This allowed for assimilation of the new immigrants. Everything changed in 1965 and for the worse. Take a look around you to see the results of this bullshit. I definitely like the way it WAS!
Fabulous comments so far. At this juncture, let’s give the Gold Medal to hardscrabble farmer.
I almost added a second question: “Where will you never ever see this picture again?”. Of course, the answer is …. television, which holds the values/ideals that picture represents in utter contempt.
No shit, Sherlock. It was always a fable.
Filo has a little Fire
in his belly
Good Stuff!
Reminds me of the Golden Age of America before the Judeo-Communist took over and imposed their Cultural Communism using their printed blood money. Patriots support Trump because we want the real America to rise again.
I believe that most of us, especially those of us that were alive in that era, look upon the picture and perhaps crack a smile as we recall the innocence, the freedoms, morals and customs that prevailed. Some of us certainly yearn for a return to that which prevailed in those halcyon days, but those days have been turned to sand by the waves of time and change. Change. As we are frequently reminded, when we examine today’s culture, it is not always for the better.
While I, and others like me, look at this picture and see that which is good, wholesome and perhaps even pious, the Progressives, Cultural Marxists, Social Justice Warriors – the Alt-Left – look at this picture with feelings of disdain and derision. They see a family, a family that is lily-white and heterosexual, and thus a target for their scorn. They see a lack of diversity within the family and shudder at how things must have been before multiculturalism and the beauty of widespread miscegenation.
They see a father, a head of household – a well manicured corporate sort of fellow sans the face piercings and tattoos. They see a man that if he hasn’t already engaged in corporal punishment of his children, he soon will, and they feel self-righteousness in their alleged successes of parenting in the post-dinosaur world. They see a man who fancies himself as the king of his castle – a ruler – and most likely an unjust ruler of his fiefdom. Mostly, they see a capitalist business man that is out to cheat someone before they cheat him.
They see a mother, a poor non-liberated mother with an anchor tied to each leg – anchors that hold her back and prevent her from being that which she obviously really longs for, because as we know today, the life of a housewife is no less than the life of a plantation slave. They see a woman they assume to be subservient, dutiful and even grateful to, and for, her husband. They see her modest attire and scoff at what they perceive as her lack of individuality, false virtue and self-value.
Looking at the two children they despair at the thought of having to be raised in a heterosexually all-white family. They see children that they believe will be wrongly and unfairly taught Christian values and morals; children that will be taught the meaning of a work ethic and meritocracy, and they shudder at the thought of such Stone Age beliefs being forced upon children that are better raised by the village. They see two children that will be raised and dressed according to their birth genders – children that will be denied the freedom to decide their own gender – a barbarous thought if there ever was one.
Mostly, I suspect, they bathe in laughter and pride at how much they have been able to destroy, of what that picture represents to them, by using the power of their God, the Almighty State to force their views upon those less enlightened than them.
And nkit makes a strong push for the GOLD!!
Is or has there ever been anything more beautiful in life than Audrey Hepburn in My Fair Lady? I think not….
Stucky, forgive me for repeating from a reply from above, but I am curious to see your reaction to where my musings took me when asked what a family would look like in twenty years (above by a commenter). Since my son is 22, about to graduate from a decent engineering school in the midwest. His friends are definitely millennials, albeit clever ones. They hang out and discuss things they did over the summer at various millennial-haven activities. My son joined a gym to learn some sort of hand-to-hand martial arts technique that involves wrapping long strands of what looks like corded velvet around his wrists and fingers to wrestle. He said he enjoyed the more physical demanding elements over Tae Kwon Do, which he has previously studied. Other than that? He devotes his brilliant mind to the love of Smash Brothers Tournaments, along with his friends, both male and female. Believe it or not, a growing number of young female adults are showing a retro-level fondness for the cast of the old Nintendo Mario Brothers video game. I don’t understand it, but am very glad his father and I managed to steer him toward a lucrative career before the Smash Brothers tournament fad hit nerdville. My son actually WON a Smash Bros. tournament he attended and brought home a cash prize. If he was not in his senior semester(s) with a good internship career behind him, I would be terrified.
So, the family of the 30s will include at least one Pokemon character OR be fathered by Mario or Luigi., whom you will see interacting with the kids on any of the walls of their cyber-enabled home.
” …. but I am curious to see your reaction to where my musings took me when asked what a family would look like in twenty years …” —Maggie
I simply have no idea.
Why? Twenty years ago, …. could I in my wildest imaginations imagine how crazy-fuked-up things would be in Amerika today? Absolutely not. Changes are happening too fast and too furious for me to even venture a guess.
That being said, I am a pessimist in this regard, so, I think it will be for the worse. Honestly, this very morning Ms Freud said to me — “It’s no fun getting older, but I wouldn’t would to start a family in this day and age.”
What is your reaction to my idea for a cyber-family collected much like the characters of Pokemon Go and displayed on the walls of one’s home?
Stucky has hit on the key element, until we abandon tv en masse we are doomed to become the mixed mongrel nation the elites have planned.
The cover of Time illustrated the future mongrel human worker slaves which brought to mind (at least for me) Rae Dawn Chong, part asian,white,black with a smidge of hispanic for good measure.
This blended human was also featured in a remake of “The Time Machine”. Now, let me point out the elites only marry within a few bloodlines and some like the DuPonts intermarry within thier family so no wonder they are fucked up and completely insane.
Over time the elites refusal to expand their gene pool has created a ruling class that suffer from insanity to such a degree with such arrogance that it is now plain to see the whackos are running the farm. They dictate our future gene pool while they continue to obliterate their own.
We either have to start shutting out the programming to save ourselves and have the guts to turn the criminals into poor people or live with the death of the white race. Can you tune out?
What was the DuPont scandal that erupted a few years ago? did it have to do with that cult that committed mass suicide in advance of being resurrected by the spaceship they claimed to be hiding behind the moon?
Bea? Do you remember?
Heaven’s Gate?
Maggie
Sorry….. old Bea is slipping, don’t remember the connection to the DuPonts with those whackadoos.
When the framers used “for ourselves and our posterity” they did not mean the Injuns, African slaves, Mexican invaders or imported Muzzies.
FedGov cannot be reformed. Secession is the only political solution available in the time remaining. Let us leave in peace without your debt.
When I was in my early 20s, I stayed with a friend whose children attended school in a “suburb” of Muskogee, Oklahoma. One day, the youngest brought home something he was to memorize for Presidents’ Day. It claimed that the blessings of liberty should be secured for “for ourselves and our posterior.”
I made a point to explain to my friend’s wife that it really did MATTER that the teacher had written it wrong and then made copies for all of her second-graders to memorize forever and ever. I was not able to convince the young lady that it mattered at all.
Maybe it all really is for “ourselves and our asses.”
Barticus, Did the framers have the whole continent in mind?
They were legislators, you dolt, they were not angels who walked on water.
Wouldn’t they have made provisions for Native Americans with whom they had signed treaties?
And where exactly do you read into it that your sorry ass was included in the ‘for ourselves and our posterity’? While you may be the posterior, you are not the posterity mentioned unless you are in the social register as one of the Mayflower descendants.
You idiots are being manipulated into a nativist foaming frenzy by an immigrant Austrian whose own childhood does not match the picture. Stick to chasing strings, morans. I’m winning! Look at all the down thumbs.
The little boy in the photo had to wear shorts and a sweater. And seeing no scabs on either knee makes me fear that the poor little shaver might’ve ended up being a Sociology major. Let’s hope he at least had a dog, tree house, and BB gun.
Dad appears to be wearing his class ring. Not good, because you can’t bowl with it on. Hopefully he was a STEM major to partially redeem for wearing the ring.
The little girl looks to be a promising future Homemaker. Like she should.
Mom is a beauty. I bet she makes a sandwich on demand, fetches a beer without complaint, and puts-out for hubby even when he was out with the boys ’til 1AM.
All photos are a bit of a lie, but when we like the lie we go along with it.
. but I am curious to see your reaction to where my musings took me when asked what a family would look like in twenty years …” —Maggie-Well Sick Perverted Twisted Obama approved inter species breeding.Why?
EEEEEWWWWWWEEEE. Yuck. I went android, but not THERE…
According to the Multicultural Act of 1988 in Canada, that photo is illegal. Too many white people is actually against the law here. Can’t have good values being transmitted now can we. More Sharia law, more feminism, more “cultural integration” makes us stronger ( or at least pays the bills for unfunded liabilities).
That’s why I am an immigrant to a homogenous country in Central America.
Don’t know about anyone else, but in my American lineage, which undoubtably extends back further than anyone else’s around here, that picture never existed.
In fact, in general, that pictured existed for relatively few, and for a relatively short period.
Take the 1800s. An agrarian period. Short lifespans. Minimal education for most. Asses shot off in civil war. Robber barons. Etc.
Early 1900s – ditto. Plus a Great Depression that bit a great many in the ass. Followed by getting entangled in WW2, where a few hundred thousand Americans got their asses shot off. (Common theme that.)
Then the “middle class”. 1950s until it started to disintegrate in the 1980s. The great heyday. The time of plenty. Unless of course you got
drafted/killed/maimed in Koorea or Nam. There us that theme again.
After 1980 comes the unravelling. Family break-ups. Debt fuelled lifestyle. Declining morals. Rampant and uncontrolled abuse of political power. Welfare. Etc.
So, the lifestyle shown existed for around 30 years out of 250, IF you were not one of the true unfortunates of the Dust Bowl (generations to overcome that misfortune of birth), Korea, Viet Nam, etc.
That life was at best a mirage, springing from not being destroyed in WW2, and from having an abundance of resources. The Great Plains food bowl, oil, coal, timber, iron ore, etc., and no WW2 damage = Eureka!
That good fortune morphed into a belief that ‘Murika! Hell yeah! was entitled to dominate the world, drain resources, go into massive debt, and never have to pay the piper.
And now the Great Disintigration awaits.
Not sure when that idyllic picture was the norm, because it NEVER existed in my family. Hard times were followed by somewhat less hard times by excruciating hard time by lesser hard times.
Life was a struggle. And will continue so. Many folks have forgot that. That the laws of nature and economics somehow have been altered. Nope. They are same as they ever was.
And boy those immutable laws are going to play merry hell with those who have forgotten or never learned that life was never meant to be easy.
Only by the sweat of one’s brow, the commitment to family and friends, and the ability to persever and endure in the face of enormous hardship can survival be assured.
That picture is a worthy goal to be pursued – family, modest affluence, peace and tranquility. But it is not the reality for most. Never has been, and I doubt it ever will be.
That was well put, LLPOH.
But, most of us grew up in a time when we personally knew at least one member of THAT family whose existence in the 50s through the 80s seemed absolutely perfect. We LONGED to be a member of THAT family and we are now just as envious of THAT family as we ever were. (We and us are being used as a collective term for current Murikan society.)
Perhaps THAT family has a lot more to do with the current state of Murikan politics than we realize.
Thank you, LLPOH for that sober background to my rant above.
Thank you, HF for your honest consideration and reply.
The rest of the lemmings can suck eggs.
Filo, you are not being downvoted because of your views; you’re being downvoted because there are enough of us who still remember BEING part of that picture, before the slow decline turned into a downward accelerating spiral.
My dad’s folks left Germany because they saw Hitler rising and wanted no part of it. My mother’s folks mostly fought for the South during the War of Northern Aggression, and were all too poor (as far as we know) to have owned any slaves. Both were considered white, and lived through WWII, where Dad went to the Pacific to fly combat aircraft while Mom lived and worked on the homefront (they had not met at the time). After the war Dad got an engineering degree on the G. I. Bill, met Mom and started having kids. Five of us grew up in that picture in Texas and Tennessee during the fifties, sixties, seventies and eighties.
And we were legion; they were building schools every year to hold the increasing crops of students. This lasted until about the eighties or so, when the wave crested and some places started tearing down schools or remodeling existing ones slightly to handle the reduced numbers of children. This to me coincides with Womens’ Lib, increased work outside the home, nihilistic leftist philosophy taking over the schools and culture, and similar forces.
That we downvote you is not because we are morally weak or superior, it’s because we remember being a part of that picture. Just because you weren’t doesn’t mean it didn’t exist – that advertising was created to appeal to a LARGE group, it just wasn’t disaffected urban youth on drugs, decay and depravity – which were still a minority then.
Would that they were a minority now!
Ah… I think you are on to something, James.
Above, in reply to llpoh, I tried to imply that the envy created by the existence of THAT family in the 50s, 60s and 70s brought us to the social unrest that is destroying what is left of Apple Pie Murika.
Thanks, Jimbo, for that personal recap. You must understand that Stucky was aiming for a shitfest but all I got out of the comments was a snivelfest and it pissed me off. It was not the down votes, shit, that only made me happy to see somebody read my screed.
Peeps here are coming off a 30 year high and wanting more. I have read enough of LLPOH’s comments to shed the scales from my eyes, America in the 50’s was an illusion. You lived it, great.
I protested strongly against the idea that the framers of the constitution intended their plan for white people by white people forever and ever.
Airman — said that when you are dealing with people, you are dealing with variables. People do not mutate, but they don’t clone either. Go back to any point in human history and people were blending by all available means; rape, conquest, subjugation. The framers could not have meant white people only because the characteristics of white people have changed since their time.
I protested strongly against the idea that the framers of the constitution meant only their progeny because few people of the 330 millions living in the USA can trace their lineage back to the the framers, let alone the 13 colonies.
These legislators may have meant their progeny, which they called posterity, and they may have meant their white race alone. But they were not prophets to envision the extension of America to include most of the continent. They can’t have envisioned the American empire. Yet, today, we have Trumpists who use this perverted interpretation of the constitution to justify calling non-whites and even the rest of the world, illegal aliens, making them strangers in their own lands.
America, Fuck Yeah! is the battle cry of a world bully using the perverted words of its constitution to justify the dispossession of native peoples everywhere because that was the will and purpose of the framers of its piece of paper. In time, we shall all carry a copy of the constitution like the Khans to justify our Bush II, Obama, Trump, Clinton crusades to take back the world for America, Fuck Yeah!
What the Framers intended is tough to determine, across a filter of 200+ years and a revisionist history corrupted by those with agendas to destroy what they created, but I’ll give it a try – they meant for those with the gumption, grit and drive to cross oceans to reach America to be free. Free from oppression, free from unrepresented taxation, and free from CONTROL. Control implies controllers, another form of oppression, and the 2nd amendment was a recognition that oppressors never sleep.
They only left hints, but I would hope that their idea of fair dealings with all nations (including the Indian nations) and avoiding entangling foreign alliances was intended to ensure we behaved morally and responsibly in our international dealings. There would be trade, and the tariffs thereon would support a SMALL Federal government. There would be wars, and the armed forces would be drawn from the citizenry (all armed as per the 2nd amendment) and disbanded between wars until needed. There would be expansion and development, and provisions were made to create new states; the Jefferson Purchase would be the ideal way to expand the country. So on and so on, forever.
They meant, I think, that we would continue to respect each other. Slavery was not successfully addressed, and the War of Northern Aggression was the result. After that, it all went downhill, although the Jackson administration was not a paragon of how to deal with the natives. But it really went downhill with Reconstruction, and various other bad ideas afterward.
I think they meant that everyone would assimilate, and we managed that for a hundred years and more. Germans and Poles and Italians and even Chinese (to build a railroad) managed to come and get along together. There were riots and various other exceptions, but the Swedes blended in, some Latinos (not all) and lots of others managed. It only took agreement on how to make laws, how to enforce laws and how to organize the shell.
But as the FedGov accumulated lands, wealth and power, the country was changed. Somehow it was OK for the Feds to own most of the west; eastern interests got rich, but western numbers were kept low to prevent them from outvoting the eastern interests on anything that mattered. Power shifted with the direct election of Senators, to dilute states’ ability to check and balance the Feds. The government went from a necessary evil (forty+ states can’t act together without a common foreign policy) to an end in itself; this is unstable, infeasible and counters the rights of the people. The Tenth amendment became an empty shell.
The rights that the Framers failed to explicitly call out (the right to privacy, the right to be left alone, the right to be free of intrusive legislation) were eroded, and then the ones that they DID call out: freedom from arbitrary search and seizure? Try driving across the country and see how often they stop you. Freedom from compelled testimony against yourself? Every arrest these days contains a grab of cell phone, tablet, home computer and records from everyone who you did business with. The Framers fought to end these, and the Moderns put them back in to CONTROL you.
Nowadays, the freedoms are few and the laws are many. I cannot believe the Framers wanted this, for themselves or anyone who came here to become part of America, be they rich, poor, given nationality, creed or education. (Exception: no Islam, since Jefferson fought the Barbary pirates over conscription of sailors as slaves). Feel free to disagree, but that’s what I think the Framers wanted, and it is a measure of how far we have degenerated to compare that short summary with what we have now.
James – it existed for few and for a short period. Glad you experienced it. No one from either side of my family back as far as records exist experienced that reality. There has always been a poor class. Always.
Thirty years of an affluent middle class out of 250 years does not constitute reality – it is a blip in time. And it will not repeat in our lifetimes. If ever. That lifestyle requires a person to excel against global competition. I do not know about you, but I do not see a lot of excelling going on. Mostly I see sheeple who believe they are entitled to that middle class lifestyle, but are ill-prepared to earn it, and certainly not disposed to work hard enough to so do.
The awakening is coming.
Come quickly, awakening.
We didn’t think we were rich – five kids on one man’s salary? My Dad went overseas in his 50’s to try to finally get enough to retire on. He joined a civilian contractor for the Air Force about 1963; managed to raise his kids to college age before it got too tight. The wild thing is he was making about $1,000 / year more when he left than when he joined – how he put up with that is amazing to me. But it was enough, back then, to make the payments on the house, put groceries on the table, buy a new car once or twice, and have a few creature comforts (8-track tape deck? Various small kitchen appliances? Yeah, we were RICH!) And he was a mechanical engineer, and did a lot of his own building, repairing, and so forth. He put a new wing on the farmhouse with child labor (us!), and the concrete cinder block foundation, wiring, fixtures, sheetrock, he did it all. It still stands, although I think he would have pitched the roof instead of the flat roof if he’d thought more about it. Whatever, it served us for decades until we went out on our own, and my Mom lives there now.
Those around us probably didn’t think we were rich either. No private schools for us, no expensive vacations (we generally went back to visit relatives in Texas for the holidays; Dad would drive ten or fifteen hours in one stretch, crash for a day and be up for the next breakfast). We did what we could, and if twenty thousand a year or so put you in the middle class, then we were middle class.
But we didn’t spend a lot of time on envy; I think that’s what destroys society now. The rich were thought to have earned it honestly, and that’s rarely the case now. The rich were thought to be out for themselves just like everyone else, but not as predatory as Zuckerberg and other scammers / spies / thieves like Madoff were now. Maybe we were naive, but I think our elites have betrayed America just as surely as Hillary has, and that may explain part of Trump’s appeal; he hasn’t already sold out America to the highest bidder as Hillary did as SOS.
The awakening is coming, is in progress now. The elites will find no one to speak for them, and plenty to speak against them. Those who can will rebuild, hopefully with safeguards against future abuse; but safeguards can be corroded, as the Founders’ were. A vigilant citizenry, alert to lies, theft and corruption, is the only lasting bulwark against tyranny, and we will relearn this lesson again, this Fourth Turning.
Everything is ildyllic, even poverty, in Kodachrome.
It’s not a picket fence. And there is no dog.