The Dead Witch Crisis

Guest Post by The Zman

The news is now full of reports that Hillary Clinton had some sort of “episode” as she was getting into her assisted living van. It’s possible she was still drunk from the night before or maybe just so hungover she could barely walk. The campaign says she has pneumonia, which could mean anything or nothing. She has disappeared from sight so we’re left to speculate, but she is clearly a woman with serious health problems. The question people are beginning to ask is can she continue to campaign? If not, will she be forced to drop out? What would happen if she did?

The funny thing about all of this is most Americans don’t know how we actually select Presidents. The voting that is done in November will not, as a legal matter, select the next President. Voting merely selects the electors who will then meet on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December. They actually meet in their respective state capitals where they cast their votes for President and Vice President. All but Maine and Nebraska have a winner take all system for selecting electors so your vote sort of matters, unless you live in a one-party state.

Similarly, each state has rules for getting on the November ballot. For example, Evan McMuffin, the Never Trump candidate, missed the deadline to be on many state ballots. This applies to the party candidates, as well, so a last minute change would create complications for the Democrats. If Hillary Clinton was suddenly incapacitated or simply quit the race, the Democrats would have a problem. They would have to go to court in some states to have their new candidate listed on the ballot. It’s not impossible, but it would be a complication.

So, what are the possible scenarios?

At this late date, finding a replacement would be complicated. The Democrat Party has rules for this scenario so they could move quickly. The rules strongly encourage the party to pick the runner up, but they can pick anyone to fill the slot. Bernie Sanders would be the obvious option, but that would mean certain defeat to Donald Trump, the nightmare scenario for both parties. The Bernie Bros are committed, but their numbers are limited. Most Americans would assume his nomination is a surrender.

They could go with a famous person with some traction in the party, but the choices are limited. Joe Biden is famous, but old and prone to saying wildly offensive things to black people and women. Elizabeth Warren is popular with the crazies, but she scares normal people. She’s also a very poor campaigner. She passed on a chance to run and passed on the VP spot. This makes forcing Clinton aside a troublesome scenario simply because the other options are only slightly better than having a corpse at the top of the ticket,

That brings up another option. Imagine that on Halloween it is reported that Clinton fell off her broom again and hit her head, rendering her incapacitated. The Democrats could reach out to Congressional Republicans and ask for a delay in the election. Congress does not have the power to dictate when people vote. They do have the power to decide when the Electors must be selected by the states. Congress could work with the states to postpone the election to December 3 in order to sort things out.

This brings us back to the first scenario, but the difference here is the crisis feel would open another dimension. The Democrats would feel free to pick anyone they like and would probably consult with the Republicans to come up with a “senior statesman” they could offer up as safe choice in a crisis. In other words, this delay would allow both parties to reset the game board so that the election was no longer about the insurgent Trump versus the corrupt system. Instead, it would be about the steady hand in a time of crisis versus the irrational hothead.

Another scenario, the high risk scenario, is for Congress to cancel the election entirely. Article II gives Congress the power to set the date electors are chosen so they can delay this indefinitely. Speaker Ryan would become acting President until Congress could come up with a new election date. Since Republicans control something like 35 state legislatures, they could stall the process so that they can stack the Electoral College with party members, who would pick a party insider. A governor like Kasich or even Jeb Bush could be installed as president.

Those are the Machiavellian scenarios. Given the nature of the political class, it seems unlikely that any of those would happen, even if Clinton drops dead tomorrow. Even so, it offers a little glimpse into the future. Over the last century, we have invested enormous power into the office of President. If you’re wondering how we can flip from republic to empire, a crisis such as the above would offer the opportunity. One candidate that is unacceptable and one that is dead, opens the door for the political class to bypass the voters and install their own man.


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Billy
Billy
September 12, 2016 6:53 am

Word over the Coconut Telegraph is that Hilda Beast has PD.

Parkinson’s is no joke. If true, she is mentally compromised and cannot be President by default…

Personally, I think she does.

http://www.dangerandplay.com/2016/08/12/hillary-clinton-has-parkinsons-disease-physician-confirms/

Maggie
Maggie
  Billy
September 12, 2016 8:53 am

I agree. My uncle had Parkinson’s and on most days, he functioned very, very well, just as Hillbitch seems able. However, on days when there were seizures or “freezes” he could not manage without assistance.

For him, sad. For her, justice.

Mark
Mark
  Billy
September 12, 2016 10:07 pm

The women..is the DEVIL!

kokoda - Les Deplorables
kokoda - Les Deplorables
September 12, 2016 7:18 am

zman………..referring to Trump as “the irrational hothead”.

The Irrational Trump vs Hillary/Establishment:
Trump wants to partner with Russia, not incite war;
Trump wants to bury ISIS, not provide them weapons.
Trump will build a wall – a country w/o borders is not a country.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 12, 2016 7:18 am

Apparently Hillary has cancelled a fund raising tour in California this week.

You know something is very, very seriously wrong when a Clinton cancels anything involving acquiring more money.

Stucky
Stucky
September 12, 2016 7:26 am
RT Rider
RT Rider
September 12, 2016 7:50 am

So let me get this straight. The Dems, knowing full well that they rigged their own primaries to nominate a grossly defective person, both in health and character, so that they and their cronies, the oligarchs – who showed their hand early on – can continue their unabated looting of the public, unopposed by the CinC.

And they will want a do-over?

If this scenario comes to play, and the Republicans play along, there will be absolutely no doubt that the Deep State is in control, and both parties are owned by it.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
September 12, 2016 8:32 am

RT

There was no doubt prior to this that the deep state is in complete control.

Zman points out in his opening something most people are not aware of and that is that Hitlery has a history of falling over dead drunk. This has been going on for decades even back in the day when she was a newly elected senator, they would find her in her office passed out drunk.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Bea Lever
September 12, 2016 1:55 pm

I think the story that she’s a fall-down drunk is just the cover story. Plus it helps her with the Irish & Native Americans.

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
  Bea Lever
September 12, 2016 4:38 pm

Churchill drank all the time too, but they are in no way comparable… 😉

Hardnox
Hardnox
September 12, 2016 8:48 am
General
General
September 12, 2016 8:49 am

Even if she died, they just wouldn’t announce it until AFTER the election.

Then if Trump wins, no issue. If she wins, it’s announced that she died after the election, and Kaine is president.

Maggie
Maggie
  Administrator
September 12, 2016 9:05 am

That is PERFECT, Admin. However, it invites this question? Is Trump the Lion, the Scarecrow or the Tin Man?

(I know he’s been compared to the Wizard, but I am leaning toward the Scarecrow.)

Maggie
Maggie
September 12, 2016 9:02 am

I bet she’s an angry raging harridan today, calling everyone around her names and demanding that someone, anyone! GET RID OF THAT 20 second clip of her being dragged like a dead body over to her Assisted Living Vehicle (ALV).

Dammit, you stupid peons! This is the Brave New World. Get hold of that video and change it.

Stucky
Stucky
  Maggie
September 12, 2016 9:11 am

Mags

That bitch is waaay out of control. Totally unfit (mentally, psychologically, and physically) to be POTUS.

Article — “Temper! Temper! Hillary Goes On Rampage For Over An Hour- Throwing Glass at Staffer’s Head” —- quite a read, concerning her interview recently with Matt Lauer.

CRAAAAZY CUNT!!

http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/09/temper-temper-killary-goes-on-rampage-for-over-an-hour-throwing-glass-at-staffers-head/

Smoke Jensen
Smoke Jensen
  Stucky
September 12, 2016 9:26 am

Thanks Stucky,
This election cycle has been better than I ever could have imagined. Watching her implode has brought me almost as much joy as when my children were born but more than helping to conceive them. Is that wrong?

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
September 12, 2016 1:43 pm

What is terribly sad for women like myself is that once upon a time, when first presented with the opportunity to consider the “new” first lady, Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a potential First Woman Elected to the Presidency, I actually read a tome favorable to her and wondered if she might not be a decent Lady Prez. Of course, that was LONG before the true nature of the Hildabeast was known and another presidency or two before her family’s ambitious globe-trotting pay to play prostitution of U.S. diplomacy .

(Let’s face it… there was a LOT of dollar diplomacy in China and Vietnam leading up to the debacle that was once known as “The Vietnam War” but the Clinton Foundation’s selling U.S. Policy influence for high dollar lectures by Bill on how to remove stains from blue dresses takes the prize.)

So, it is a terrible thing to see someone you once regarded as capable of being a good leader exposed as a narcissistic self-serving POS that she really is. She’s unfit to stand on that podium as the “First Woman President” in my opinion, because she doesn’t measure up to the HIGH STANDARDS I demand from my women role models.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Maggie
September 12, 2016 2:00 pm

Having a woman president is currently unconstitutional. Article Two of the Constitution:
“The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. HE shall hold HIS Office during the Term of four Years…”

Maggie
Maggie
  Iska Waran
September 12, 2016 11:26 pm

a very good point Iska!

RCW the Deplorable
RCW the Deplorable
  Stucky
September 12, 2016 6:26 pm

I’d add spiritually too into mix.

Undeplorable
Undeplorable
September 12, 2016 9:42 am

Given the precedent set by FDR, what would stop O’Bommy from simply issuing an executive order to remain in power?

After all, The Establishment would much prefer this over Trump anyway and why would they let a good crisis go to waste?

Could it happen? Well, when it comes to TPTB during times such as these: Ask them no questions and they will tell no lies.

AmazingAz
AmazingAz
September 12, 2016 10:11 am

Here’s something that came to me as I lay in bed. (To the tune of Oh Lonesome Me)

Oh Deplorable Me

She’s out tonight with millionaires and having fun,
I’m stuck at home with my religion & my gun,
I can’t get over what she said you see
Oh, deplorable me.

It’s a joke I’m sure she didn’t put me down,
Thought she cared and now I’m wearing a frown,
I lost my job at the factory,
Oh, deplorable me.

I’ll bet she’s not like me
She’s out & worry free
hanging with the rich and Hollywood stars,
But I want her to know
To tell me it ain’t so,
why she isn’t like some Russian czar.

There must be some way
I can lose these clinger blues
forget about the past and embrace the new
I’ve given up on hope and change you see,
Oh, deplorable me.

I’ll bet she’s not like me
She’s out & worry free
hanging with the rich and Hollywood stars,
But I want her to know
To tell me it ain’t so,
why she isn’t like some Russian czar.

There must be some way
I can lose these clinger blues
forget about the past and embrace the new
I’ve given up on hope and change you see,
Oh, deplorable me.
Oh, deplorable me.

prusmc
prusmc
  AmazingAz
September 12, 2016 5:58 pm

Is there some way Paul Shanklin(sp) the Rush Limbaugh satire singer can make this song and air it as a commercial. I don’t know if Don Gibson is alive or what or what his views are or were but that song would be a sensation on country music stations.

mark
mark
September 12, 2016 10:14 am

The polls are close?

I say bullshit. Its that the establishment is planning on rigging the votes.

Nobody shows up at her rallies or even in that black church.

Then we are supposed to believe Trump loses with a record voter turnout.

Iconoclast421
Iconoclast421
September 12, 2016 10:35 am

As Drudge said many many months ago, democrats would elect “Hillary’s brain in a jar”. As long as she is alive enough to raise her hand 6 inches off the bed, they will vote for her. Brainwashed people are some of the most committed people you will even see.

mark
mark
September 12, 2016 10:50 am

Exactly right Iconclast. Notice leftist who defend Hillary because she fell on icey steps in South Carolina and now going with heat exhaustion fainting lie. It aint over until its over.

Gayle
Gayle
September 12, 2016 11:00 am

The scary question for me is this: at this moment, would it be in the best interests of the Deep State for Hillary to be dead or alive? She obviously cannot get through a debate with the Trumpster – it would be an unmitigated disaster. Her death would be a convenience to those who will do anything to alter the election process to keep Trump from winning. I suspect her life is in grave danger at present, and not from PD nor pneumonia.

prusmc
prusmc
  Gayle
September 12, 2016 6:05 pm

I live out of the US so it is hard to follow what is hoing on. Am I right or wrong? Has there been one debate already? Did Harpy decisively outscore Trump?

underfire
underfire
  prusmc
September 12, 2016 11:01 pm

No, no debates yet.

get used to disappointment
get used to disappointment
September 12, 2016 11:00 am

I knew it-those darned pneumonia vaccines are useless, or is it that she refuses to have one? Looked to me like a petit mal seizure, she stiffened up slightly then dropped like a rock.

Vodka
Vodka
September 12, 2016 11:04 am

Romney’s “47%” comment in 2012 is accurate. This cunt could pass-out in public, even slip into a coma, skip all the debates, appear in public only via video messages from now until Nov, and there would still be 47% who would vote for her.

Maggie
Maggie
  Administrator
September 12, 2016 2:02 pm

With any Clinton, it depends upon what the meaning of the word is… is.

Mesomorph
Mesomorph
  Administrator
September 12, 2016 2:47 pm

ZH article says “A video shows her shakily stumbling while trying to get into a van to leave.”

What I saw “A video shows her seizing body being manhandled into an escape vehicle while trying to not shit herself”

Did this writer even watch the video?
Damon Linker just made it clear he is a shill, not a journalist.
We need a website that keeps track of these assholes. A database of media sell outs and sycophants.

ditchner
ditchner
  Administrator
September 12, 2016 3:50 pm

I don’t understand why everybody seems so quick to accept her campaign’s claim of pneumonia. They lie about everything and her signs and symptoms don’t match the diagnosis. Even though she’s been couging, pneumonia normally causes a productive cough. And pneumonia, after all is often readily treatable and can resolve completely. Whatever it is that she’s got (some clinicians have strongly suggested Parkinsons which usually is progressively debilitating) doesn’t look (or smell) like pneumonia. Why hide pneumonia?

underfire
underfire
September 12, 2016 11:16 am

From zero hedge. I think this bears repeating.

FYI: Tucker Carlsopn on Fox this morning (from Breitbart, which see):

“Her expression of contempt for the middle of the country is commonplace in the world she lives in, the world he lives in, frankly the world I live in here in Washington,” Carlson said. “This is what the elites believe. This is a very common view and I really hope our viewers don’t come away thinking only Hillary Clinton believes this. Everyone in her orbit believes it.”

Rise Up
Rise Up
September 12, 2016 11:26 am

“The rules strongly encourage the party to pick the runner up, but they can pick anyone to fill the slot. Bernie Sanders would be the obvious option, but that would mean certain defeat to Donald Trump, the nightmare scenario for both parties.”

That is quite an assumption by the author, as is this:

“The Democrats would feel free to pick anyone they like and would probably consult with the Republicans to come up with a “senior statesman” they could offer up as safe choice in a crisis.”

Democrats consulting with Republicans? Uh huh, sure.

My theory months ago was that Hitlery would lose the election and die before Christmas. Seems like a real possibility now.

mark
mark
September 12, 2016 11:41 am

The most dammaging story comes from the NY Daily news . The left wing looney paper of New York.

This is what this election is really all about. Defeating Pravda. Im in shock when i read it.

Trump could actually take NY!

GilbertS
GilbertS
September 12, 2016 11:43 am

U.S. Constitution – Amendment 25
Since she’ll probably win, anyway, here’s the Constitutional Crisis we face next year…
Download a copy of the movie, Dave, to bone up on it.

Amendment 25 – Presidential Disability and Succession
1. In case of the removal of the President from office or of his death or resignation, the Vice President shall become President.

2. Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

3. Whenever the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that he is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, and until he transmits to them a written declaration to the contrary, such powers and duties shall be discharged by the Vice President as Acting President.

4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

ditchner
ditchner
  GilbertS
September 12, 2016 3:56 pm

In the scenario where the VP becomes president, that would put a Jesuit in control of the Beast of the Earth who would make the whole world worship the Jesuit in control of the Beast of the Sea, the Pope. You want Hillary to die? Be careful what you ask for.

GilbertS
GilbertS
  ditchner
September 12, 2016 8:47 pm

Why don’t you pass the time with a game of solitaire???

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ditchner
September 12, 2016 9:56 pm

ditchner

Careful with the Jesuit talk, Stucky’s butt plug RiNS will dog you to hell and back, strange since he worships Thor. Stucky used to be Thor….hmmm.

Stucky
Stucky
September 12, 2016 12:04 pm

“It’s easy to understand why the Clinton campaign would want to keep this kind of news a secret. The candidate doesn’t trust the media.
—- Zerohedge article posted by Admin

Where’s the onion? Are you fucken kiddin me?? Hillcunt tells the MSM to “eat shit” … and the sycophants will do so, literally .

Yancey Ward
Yancey Ward
September 12, 2016 12:37 pm

Getting a name change at the top of the ballot has maybe a week or two left to be a successful strategy for the two major parties- after the third week of September, you will have missed the deadline in too many states. However, as you point out, each state election is actually a vote for the chosen electoral slate of each candidate, so it might make more sense for the Democrats, for example, to simply keep Clinton on the ballots if she died or withdrew. The DNC could convene and select a new candidate they proclaim as the party’s candidate and ask/direct the electors Clinton had selected to vote for that candidate should Clinton’s name win the vote in the state.

There are three problems I see with this strategy, however: (1) just because the DNC would select the new candidate for the electors to vote for, there is no guarantee that unselected Democrats might offer themselves as options for the electors in competition, and divide the vote; I consider this a minor quibble, however; (2) I don’t know the election law in all the states, but it isn’t inconceivable that Clinton victories after a death or withdrawal wouldn’t get certified by the state, or face court challenges on a broad basis; however, I again think this is a minor point; and finally (3), going with Clinton’s name after a death or withdrawal will require a massive voter education project for the Democrats- the voters wanting a Democrat as president would have to be taught to vote for a candidate not in the race- I can easily imagine losing anywhere from 5-10% of your potential votes just due to errors

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Yancey Ward
September 12, 2016 2:05 pm

Also, early voting has already started in some states like Florida & North Carolina. If they swap in someone before the election, any votes cast early for Hillary Clinton become worthless. It’s not like they could be assigned to Biden (or whoever).

GilbertS
GilbertS
  Yancey Ward
September 12, 2016 8:51 pm

I wonder how many lawsuits will be filed if she wins demanding disqualification due to incapacitation? After all, it seems like we’re close to 25th Amendment territory already and she’s not yet crowned. Where does the law fit on that one?

And what world leader is going to give her the time of day when they know she’s a heartbeat away from being replaced. And they all know she says and does things and doesn’t remember them later, so nothing she does counts. Who will respect President Bobble Head?

ASIG
ASIG
September 12, 2016 1:23 pm

It would be interesting to know what Barbra Streisand and the Hollywood elites are thinking knowing that Hillary was diagnoses with phenomena just prior to meeting/mingling with them. They give her hundreds of thousands or maybe millions and she exposes them to pneumonia.

Stucky
Stucky
September 12, 2016 2:34 pm

All this talk about Hillcunt dropping out is Pure Speculation. Almost bullshit, actually. Being POTUS has been Hillcunt’s goal her entire life. The bitch won’t drop out even if literally on life support. She WILL see this through the end. I have no crystal ball, … it’s just the opinion of a poor painter.

——

Of course, as USUAL, there’s an omnipresent “they” who supposedly control every motherfuckin action in the known universe. If she coughs, it’s what “they” want. If she get’s pneumonia, “they” arranged it. It’s all part of a script folks … ALL of it. Every. Single. Thing. “They” also selected Donald, and “they” control Donald. Naturally. Dahum, I’ll be some of you see they Bogeyman under your bed at night. “They” control him also.

ditchner
ditchner
  Stucky
September 12, 2016 4:01 pm

“They” also selected Donald, and “they” control Donald.

I hope you’re as wrong about this as you are about a weapon that turns steel to dust. I know how powerful these people are but I don’t believe they control Trump. They didn’t control Kennedy and had to eliminate him. I fear the same fate for the Donald.

Cdubbya
Cdubbya
September 12, 2016 2:36 pm

Here’s a gift to you all – the original ‘Newsroom’ comedy by the CBC.
The final episode is ‘The Campaign’ where the candidate is brain dead for the election night. I wont spoil it for you.
Here’s part 1:

The whole thing is fucking hilarious.
Enjoy.

PS – since this is a Canadian dead-pan comedy there is no laugh track so some of you may have trouble knowing when to laugh – ask a friend to help.

Rdawg
Rdawg
  Cdubbya
September 12, 2016 11:32 pm

Cdubbya
Maybe you could flash a photo of your dick at the appropriate times so we know when to laugh?

Cdubbya
Cdubbya
  Rdawg
September 13, 2016 1:43 am

Your mother seemed happy enough…

Undeplorable
Undeplorable
September 12, 2016 3:11 pm

Double Trouble Body Double?

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Kill Bill
Kill Bill
September 12, 2016 4:38 pm

The over marinated muu muu wearing martini olive toppled over. Yikes.

I should be shocked but aint really feeling it.

Alas, somewhere in a deep volcanic lair a Hillbot is being assembled.

\singing ring of fire by Johnny Cash

the tumbleweed
the tumbleweed
September 12, 2016 6:32 pm

My predictions at this point are as follows.

1. The Dems now realize Hillary cannot be allowed to debate Trump. With limited commercial breaks, the potential for her deplorable health to be revealed to the masses is too extreme. She also cannot skip the debates, because they are a tradition which has been engrained into the electoral process. The debates are the single biggest impediment to her coasting toward election day. Therefore, whatever is going to happen in regards to her candidacy, it’s going to happen rather quickly. Within the next two weeks, and likely before that.

2. If she is replaced on the ticket, the Dems will not have time to replace her name on each state’s ballot. The zombies will still show up to vote for “Hillary Clinton,” but the new candidate will be understood to have taken her place. Since the party has really pushed the “woman vs. the world” narrative, they will probably pick a woman. Michelle Obama would probably like to wield power in the house that slaves built.

3. The election will not be postponed, nor will Obama remain in office. The current two party system has served TPTB too well to be upended. The perception by the masses that they can “vote the rascals out” must not be compromised. The people are placated under the current system and any disruption to their normal routine would only galvanize them.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
September 12, 2016 7:37 pm

Short of Hillary checking out for good the fix is probably still in . The drunken comparison to Chruchhill is a bit much , Chruchhill was a statesman of honor and integrity not without faults but drinking too much at a time when he knew full well the decisions he made sent thousands of young men to their deaths . Any person forced to commit young men to such a sacrifice I find easy to overlook some after hours drunken behavior and having a clue the human cost of combat I will join Winston in the pool of brandy . As for Hillary Clinton her rude insulting comments about people who see she and dick slinger Bill are full of shit , if she wants a war with Russia great for her Bill dodged one conflict over political bull shit and now look at the Nikes we get ! If it’s a war any of these bands of fools want line up and don’t forget your kids and grandchildren too as for me and my loved ones we will take a chance on “LETS MAKE A DEAL WITH TRUMP” over a war any day .

Mark
Mark
September 12, 2016 10:08 pm

The women is…the Devil!