This may have been discussed and/or asked before. However, The Debate Of The Ages is today. Sooo ,,,
Q: What does Donald Trump need to do to win the debate?
I believe Buchanan’s article below is spot on the money. Neither candidate will win because of their mastery of the supposed issues. Buchanan gives the examples of JFK and Ronnie.
— “Kennedy won the first debate, …. because he appeared more lucid, likable and charismatic, more mature than folks had thought.”
— “Reagan won his debate with Carter because of his sunny disposition and demeanor and his “There you go again!” airy dismissal of Carter’s nit-picking contradicted the malevolent media-created caricatures of the Gipper as a dangerous primitive or an amiable dunce.”
There ya go, Donald, make ’em like ya!! Show them that the MSM-whores caricature of you as a (fill-in-the-invective) is pure bullshit. Do that, and the election is in the bag for you.
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How Trump Wins the Debate
On one of my first trips to New Hampshire in 1991, to challenge President George H. W. Bush, I ran into Sen. Eugene McCarthy.
He was returning to the scene of his ’68 triumph when he had inflicted the first crippling wound on Lyndon Johnson.
“Pat, you don’t have to win up here, you know,” he assured me. “All you have to do is beat the point spread.”
“Beat the point spread” is a good description of what Donald Trump has to do in Monday night’s debate.
With only a year in national politics, he does not have to show a mastery of foreign and domestic policy details. Rather, he has to do what John F. Kennedy did in 1960, and what Ronald Reagan did in 1980.
He has to meet and exceed expectations, which are not terribly high. He has to convince a plurality of voters, who seem prepared to vote for him, that he’s not a terrible risk, and that he will be a president of whom they can be proud.
He has to show the country a Trump that contradicts the caricature created by those who dominate our politics, culture, and press.
The Trump on stage at Hofstra University will have 90 minutes to show that the malicious cartoon of Donald Trump is a libelous lie.
He can do it, for he did it at the Mexico City press conference with President Pena Nieto where he surprised his allies and stunned his adversaries.
Recall. Kennedy and Reagan, too, came into their debates with a crucial slice of the electorate undecided but ready to vote for them if each could relieve the voters’ anxieties about his being within reach of the button to launch a nuclear war.
Kennedy won the first debate, not because he offered more convincing arguments or more details on the issues, but because he appeared more lucid, likable and charismatic, more mature than folks had thought. And he seemed to point to a brighter, more challenging future for which the country was prepared after Ike.
After that first debate, Americans could see JFK sitting in the Oval Office.
Reagan won his debate with Carter because of his sunny disposition and demeanor and his “There you go again!” airy dismissal of Carter’s nit-picking contradicted the malevolent media-created caricatures of the Gipper as a dangerous primitive or an amiable dunce.
Even George W. Bush, who, according to most judges, did not win a single debate against Al Gore or John Kerry, came off as a level-headed fellow who was more relatable than the inventor of the internet or the windsurfer of Cape Cod.
The winner of presidential debates is not the one who compiles the most debating points. It is the one whom the audience decides they like, and can be comfortable taking a chance on.
Trump has the same imperative and same opportunity as JFK and Reagan. For the anticipated audience, of Super Bowl size, will be there to see him, not her. He is the challenger who fills up the sports arenas with the tens and scores of thousands, not Hillary Clinton.
If she were debating John Kasich or Jeb Bush, neither the viewing audience nor the title-fight excitement of Monday night would be there. Specifically, what does Trump need to do? He needs to show that he can be presidential. He needs to speak with confidence, but not cockiness, and to deal with Clinton’s attacks directly, but with dignity and not disrespect. And humor always helps.
Clinton has a more difficult assignment.
America knows she knows the issues. But two-thirds of the country does not believe her to be honest or trustworthy. As her small crowd’s show, she sets no one on fire. Blacks, Hispanics, and millennials who invested high hopes in Barack Obama seem to have no great hopes for her. She has no bold agenda, no New Deal or New Frontier.
“Why aren’t I 50 points ahead?” wailed Hillary Clinton this week.
The answer is simple. America has seen enough of her and has no great desire to see anymore; and she cannot change an impression hardened over 25 years — in 90 minutes.
But the country will accept her if the only alternative is the Trump of the mainstream media’s portrayal. Hence, the strategy of the Democratic Party for the next seven weeks is obvious:
Trash Trump, take him down, make him intolerable, and we win.
No matter how she performs, though, Donald Trump can win the debate, for he is the one over whom the question marks hang. But he is also the one who can dissipate and destroy them with a presidential performance.
In that sense, this debate and this election are Trump’s to win.
FUCK John Oliver.
Q: What does Donald Trump need to do to win the debate?
Don’t laugh when Hildebeast coughs.
Hildebeast will boast about her experience as Sec. of State. Let the audience know how her ‘experience’ has benefitted Libya and Syria and the tidal wave of migrants into Europe..
Trump needs to help Hillary show herself up for what she is without creating an adversarial and hostile division in the audience while doing it.
Letting Hillary do that won’t be that hard, preventing hostilities between the two sides in the audience will.
Debate? Debate? What debate? When does it happen? What is is for? Why is it even there? Who is “de-bating”? I can hardly wait to find out!
Muck
So, I hear on the radio this morning that Trump says he’ll be respectful to Hillary if she is respectful. But, if she goes on the attack, he will respond in kind.
Fuck. What a juvenile attitude. Good luck with that strategy. Damn, I’m looking forward to this de-bate if only because of the yuge surprise factor. Who will do or say what … God only knows.
Tit for tat is a GREAT strategy on a website such as this. Without it, we might not be able to generate shit-fests. But, playing that game on a national stage will make Donald look like a dick. Donald, don’t be a dick!
It seems like a reasonable approach to me, what would you have him do instead? Put her in control by catering to her?
If someone starts something, turnabout is fair play. Anything else is surrendering as has been demonstrated in prior elections when a candidate tried the “high road” approach to dirty politics.
He needs to leave it at clever quips, and let HER be the shit throwing monkey. The immature eye rolling, the frequent off topic stops….if he keeps his cool he wins. I honestly don’t think she’s physically capable of standing under duress for that much time.
“All debates will be moderated by a single individual and will run from 9:00-10:30 p.m. Eastern Time without commercial breaks.”
http://www.debates.org/index.php?page=2016debates
That means no potty break for Hellary. She’ll be wearing Depends!
“It seems like a reasonable approach to me, what would you have him do instead?” —-Anonymous
Seriously? You need to ask?? No wonder you hide behind “anonymous”.
How about taking the high road … as HF suggests below. Be more like Ronnie — “Aw, shucks, Hillcunt. There you go again.”
Being a dick will ONLY REINFORCE the MSMwhoreFuks meme that Donald is mean spirited, angry, out of control, blah blah …
KILL HER WITH KINDNESS! I really think that will work best. Then again, wtf do I know?
I agree with you 100% Stucky,
Trump needs to be the perfect gentleman and
be a strong contrast to the shrill Hil.
Quips? Perfect!
I suspect many peoples around the globe will be
watching Trump, that requires him to be in
statesman mode.
I agree Stucky
All Trump has to do is pour her a cup of coffee once and a while and let her talk. She’ll get the rope herself. All he needs to do is watch.
We already know what he thinks anyways. He has been running unfiltered for over a year…
Sometimes looking Presidential is just keeping your mouth shut. If he doesn’t come off as rude he wins.
I believe one of the primary reasons for Trump’s popularity is his willingness to call bullshit on these assholes. Deplorables as a rule don’t take shit and insults lieing down. Doing so in the past got us to this point in time.
Paraphrasing that great statesman ‘Mike Tyson (sic)’
“Hillary and the MSM have a plan until they get punched in the mouth”
be calm, “don’t be a dick” and he only has to take his humility level from a 0.5 to a 1.5 (on a scale of 100) and he’ll seemed likeable to many non-deplorables.
A major sponsor of The Debate is Ricola Cough Drops.
h/t Trading Advantage
My wife had a unique insight- she said that his first statement should be one of concern to Hillary, “I’m glad you’ve recovered and that you’re feeling better, it’s good to see you here tonight.”
It works on several levels- It makes him seems sympathetic which works on women (who happen to make up the largest share of the “undecided” voters), it reminds everyone of her health issues without being a dick about it and it immediately puts her in a position of having to exhibit no symptoms for the next 90 minutes AND having to respond with equal kindness back- neither of which are likely. It is what chess players refer to as zugzwang.
My observation of this contest so far has led me to the belief that Mr. Trump began his campaign for President about 25 years ago. He has studied- or paid others who have- to understand the timing of the election process, how to get attention and then use it to maximum effect, how to project a specific POV or character trait that provoke a designed response and then do a 180 that leaves the opponent left hanging in the wind (gas-lighting).
“My wife had a unique insight- she said that his first statement should be one of concern to Hillary, “I’m glad you’ve recovered and that you’re feeling better, it’s good to see you here tonight. And, you even look taller!”
Fixed it. 🙂
Stucky
Drudge has a small reference to Cankles with a photo that shows her navigating stairs unaided and looking fit as a fiddle. They imply that a “lone” unanticipated pool reporter snapped the shot. I said she would would have a recovery miracle from God.
He needs to wear a “Hillary for Prison” t-shirt. Take it to the bitch full force. She has the blood of thousands on her hands. (libya, Syria, Egypt, and creating and supporting ISIS).
I’ll wear mine 2nite during the debate.
What does Trump have to do to win? Don’t let her get his goat. Express a few numerical figures in surprising detail. They don’t have to be right, but they have to sound right. One way he would win: get people to understand that the media apparatus, Hollywood power structure, global corporations and DC chattering class who are arrayed against him are, in fact, arrayed against us – that all he’s trying to do is give us what we want: a secure border, an end to sellout trade deals, an end to military interventionism, and Hillary’s corporate masters are trying to force on us what we don’t want.
The forces of darkness (the media) are already doing their thing up here in Canoodlestan this morning asking and wondering if the moderator will be able to control Trump and his propensity for stretching the truth, fudging numbers and making bald faced lies. No mention of Hillary’s ability to the same mind you. Trump is evil. Hillary is not. According to our media that is. The deck is stacked tonight.
Everybody pray for Trump and I hope the audience and reporters can smell the sulfur from her attending demons.
Democrats always seem to think presidential debates are won by winning debating points, even after literally decades of proof to the contrary.
Trump needs to stay focused and positive. Clinton’s job is actually much harder- getting people to like her, and I seriously doubt she is even smart enough to realize that should even be her goal. I think she will try to bait him repeatedly over his wealth, his intelligence, his experience, and his temperament. If I were giving Trump advice, I would take every offer of bait and tie it specifically back to the state of the economy, the state of the world, and Clinton’s own various prevarications- and then state his own case for being able to change all of that.
I suspect Holt will try to fact check Trump repeatedly, but if Trump takes the approach he took the week before last with Matt Lauer, it won’t work either.
Basically, this debate is the whole shebang. The country doesn’t want to vote for Shelob- all Trump needs do tonight is to show he is a viable alternative, and she will sink like a lead turd.
If Trump is successful tonight at making himself a logical alternative to Clinton, the next 4 weeks will be a very, very dangerous time for him. To this point, it appeared that he was likely to lose the election, but if it ever became clear he was likely to win it, other means of stopping him will rise up to the top of the decision tree. His opponents are dead serious about winning.
He needs to act presidential, yet remain passionate; brutally honest in a humorous manner and relentlessly ruthless in revealing what we already know regarding Hillary. Do that, and there is no way the MSM will be able to bury the sound bites or spin a new narrative upon the 100 million witnesses who will have viewed the beatdown.
If he goes easy to satisfy the mushy-minded middle, he won’t win. IMO
Humor!!! Yes! Excellent comment.
After my divorce, and for a couple years, I spent time on match.com and another dating site. Let me tell you the ONE think almost ALL womenz wanted in a man — (besides “financially independent”, meaning ‘you-better-have-money’) — is sense of humor . I’d say 95 out of 100 profiles.
And since Donald is supposedly losing the womenz vote — humor will go a long way.
Very true, Stucky. The 2nd most comment I like to hear from my wife (other than “I love you”), is “you’re funny”. It’s wonderful to make someone laugh.
I wish these debates were conducted with no live audience. Applause or boos from a live audience tends to either reinforce or refute a candidate’s comments or responses to the moderator or opposing debater. No need to hear from the peanut gallery!
On Drudge today:
No ear mics allowed for debate moderators; But what about the candidates?
by WorldTribune Staff, June 10, 2016
The presidential debate moderators will not be allowed to wear earpieces, according to published reports.
But what about the presidential candidates themselves?
A voter in Maryland wrote Federal Elections Commissioner Matthew Petersen on Sept. 8 seeking a “clear response” to that question.
“I read reports that during the televised event questioning each of the candidates on their qualifications to serve as Commander in Chief, that Secretary Clinton had a microphone in her ear to receive prompting and guidance from advisers off stage,” wrote Laurence B of Columbia, MD.
[A check of his name and address at the Maryland State Board of Elections Internet site verified the writer’s identity as a registered voter.]
“Surely this is a more serious violation of competition than the doping which the Olympics have had to clean up. … Can you please confirm that your commission will take conclusive steps to ensure that no such cheating takes place during the debates?” the letter concluded.
When he received no response to his letter, he wrote again on Sept. 21: “I’ve got to say I’m really discouraged not to have received a confirmation from you or from your office that your policy will be to disallow the two candidates to wear ear microphones. Am I to interpret your lack of a response to mean that such behavior will, indeed be accepted?”
That correspondence got an immediate and lengthy response in “legalese” from an attorney with the FEC:
“Good afternoon, my name is Ruth Heilizer and I am an attorney with the Federal Election Commission (“FEC” or “Commission”). I have been asked to respond to your email to FEC Chairman Petersen regarding your suggestion that presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump be prohibited from wearing ear microphones during the upcoming presidential debates.
The Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971, as amended (“Act”) and Commission regulations require that the contents of a complaint meet certain specific requirements. In particular, a complaint be in writing, sworn to and signed in the presence of a notary public and notarized. Unfortunately, your email did not meet these requirements.
If you wish to file a formal complaint with the Commission, you must follow the requirements set forth in the Act at 52 U.S.C. § 30109(a)(1) and Commission regulations. Requirements of this section of the law, and Commission regulations at 11 C.F.R. § 111.4, which are a prerequisite to Commission action, are detailed below: …”
Persistent citizen Laurence B. gave it one more try:
“As a lawyer, I’m sure you can differentiate between a complaint, and a request for a clear statement of rules. My email is seeking the latter. … I would be very grateful if you could let me know whether or not there is a clear rule prohibiting candidates from wearing ear mics and if so, whether or not it is your intention to enforce that rule.
He has yet to receive a response.
Carlos Greer, the Commission on Presidential Debates sent out a message to news organizations on Sept. 9 banning devices that would allow presidential debate moderators get directions from their news teams.
NBC’s “Today” anchor Matt Lauer wore an earpiece Sept. 7 when he conducted interviews with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump at the “Commander-in-Chief Forum which was severely criticized by liberal media commentators.
PLEASE don’t get your briefs in a wad when I bring this up BUT, just to be fair here Trump has a great deals of dirty undies in his underwear drawer. Cankles underwear had to be removed by a Hazmat Team to be sure and we all know that but folks here act as though Trump has been a choir boy all his life. Just not the case………..don’t be surprised over the next month if some of the undies get out of the drawer. Cankles is a sneaky , mean old bitch that will pull something underhanded out of her backside.
There’s been multiple news and political research teams working 24/7 for months now trying to find something really bad to use against him.
So far they seem to have failed, at least in finding anything the public actually cares about.
The teams dedicated to keeping Hillary protected from her own past seem to have been fairly effective though, considering the magnitude of what is readily available to even an amateur researcher at a junior college.
If Trump shoots her dead on stage, does that make him the winner? I say yes.
I would love to see the look on Hillary’s face if Trump was escorted to his podium by Jennifer Flowers and Juanita Broderick. That would be priceless.
Seriously? A deflowered ho looking for preznut penis is looking for another cigar?
Dont get me wrong here, Hillary is but a beard here and could GAFL that Bill cheated she probably wanted Monica, or Jen, herself.
When Hillary goes into one of her coughing fits, walk over and give her the Heimlich manuver.
Hope
Do you want live blog the debate tonight? I’ll set up a thread.
great idea!
I was hoping that Trump would arrange for the family members of the Benghazi victims to sit on the front row and stare the disgusting POS bitch down all evening. Perhaps Satan could renege on her Faustian bargain, but keep her soul just the same….
I am very sick and tired, and tired and sick of the constant musings of this debate. It is only a couple of hours away and I am content to wait and see for my self. Of interest is the staging and visuals the media will provide for our enlightenment.
And yet you post a comment musing about this debate…priceless!
The yuge basket of deplorables are voting for Trump no matter what.
The degenerates are voting for Clinton no matter what.
Furthermore, most voters’ votes don’t actually matter unless they are in a battleground state.
We are at the point where the fate of the country is going to be decided by a sliver of undecideds in two or three states. We’re talking about less than 5% of the total population.
I’ve played with the electoral map. It greatly favors the Democrats. Trump really, really needs to win Pennsylvania (where he is currently down) along with Ohio and Florida (where is slightly up.)
The only thing that matters in the debates is that he caters to undecideds in those states. Most are simply scared that Trump is mean, racist, and impulsive on the red button. Ohio and PA are also “bitter clingers,” concerned about their guns, religion, and jobs.
Therefore what does Trump need to do? Economy, economy, economy. Nationalism without racism. Status quo on 1st and 2nd amendments. And display personal stability in temperament and language. If he does this he will win the “sliver of procrastinators” he so desperately needs to win the electoral college.
There is a big undercount in the polls that favor Trump. All the better when he wins by more than 5%.
Trick question, Trump could be perfect and Hillary could drop dead and the media would still proclaim her the winner.
And who is the Final Arbiter as to who wins the debate?
Bacause you know that both sides( meaning the media and sheople ) will claim their preffered numb nut won.
I think the idea is that each of the individual numb nut voters decides for themselves who the winner is.
If that is too much of a leap and you are still in doubt, just refer to MSM or Party talking heads for instructions on how to proceed.
A few things are probably for sure, like the MSM talking heads will all be watching a different debate than the rest of us because afterwards when they spend the rest of the week telling us what we thought we heard, it will be different than what we did hear. Countless specialists and correspondence will be giving us their ”take” on the proceedings and interpreting what was said to fit the narratives they are pushing regardless of what reality is. All the stations except FOX will rule that Illary was the victor and Trump is nothing more than the stooge they have being telling us he is for over a year. Blah, blah and blah.
The best thing I read on this thread is FUCK John Oliver +1000