As relations between Russia and the US disintegrate as a result of the escalating proxy war in Syria, which today culminated with Putin halting a Plutonium cleanup effort with the US, shortly before the US State Department announced it would end negotiations with Russia over Syria, tomorrow an unprecedented 40 million Russian citizens, as well as 200,000 specialists from “emergency rescue divisions” and 50,000 units of equipment are set to take part in a four day-long civil defense, emergency evacuation and disaster preparedness drill, the Russian Ministry for Civil Defense reported on its website.
According to the ministry, an all-Russian civil defense drill involving federal and regional executive authorities and local governments dubbed “Organization of civil defense during large natural and man-caused disasters in the Russian Federation” will start tomorrow morning in all constituent territories of Russia and last until October 7. While the ministry does not specify what kind of “man-caused disaster” it envisions, it would have to be a substantial one for 40 million Russians to take part in the emergency preparedness drill. Furthermore, be reading the guidelines of the drill, we can get a rather good idea of just what it is that Russia is “preparing” for.
The website adds that “the main goal of the drill is to practice organization of management during civil defense events and emergency and fire management, to check preparedness of management bodies and forces of civil defense on all levels to respond to natural and man-made disasters and to take civil defense measures.” Oleg Manuilov, director of the Civil Defence Ministry explained that the exercise will be a test of how the population would respond to a “disaster” under an “emergency” situation.
Some further details, on the 3-stage, 4 day drill:
I stage: organization of civil defense actions
The stage is going to practice notification and gathering of senior officials of federal and regional executive authorities, local governments and civil defense forces, deployment of civil defense management system on all levels, readying civil defense communication and notification system. After the National Crisis Management Center have brought the management signals, all management bodies, state authorities, forces and facilities on duty and people will be notified through notification systems available.
II stage: Planning and organization of civil defense actions. Deploying a team of civil defense forces and facilities designed to respond to large disasters and fires.
The stage plans to practice deployment a mobile interagency multi-functional team of civil defense forces and facilities in each federal district in order to carry our rescue and other urgent operations, civil defense actions and to deploy special civil defense units in constituent territories; putting rescue military units, divisions of the federal fire service, rescue units on standby. The stage provides for the team to be reinforced, activation of backup control centers and practicing collecting and exchanging information in the field of civil defense.
III stage: Organization of actions of civil defense management bodies and forces for response to large disasters and fires.
The stage will deal with the use of the civil defense team to respond to large disasters and fires, setting up aerial and mobile control centers, revising of routes for save evacuation of people, organization of vital services; taking off fire and rescue units of the federal fire service to put out fires and conduct rescue operations at potentially dangerous facilities, including closed administrative territorial entities.
The drill will rehearse radiation, chemical and biological protection of the personnel and population during emergencies at crucial and potentially dangerous facilities. Fire safety, civil defense and human protection at social institutions and public buildings are also planned to be checked. Response units will deploy radiation, chemical and biological monitoring centers and sanitation posts at the emergency areas, while laboratory control networks are going to be put on standby.
The fact that among the measures tasked for the civil defense team will be a response to “disasters and fires” as well as the rehearsal of “radiation, chemical and biological protection”, makes it clear that Russia is about to hold its biggest nuclear war drill since perhaps the end of the Cold War.
Why now? Perhaps, in addition to the sharp deterioration in relations between Russia and the west, where tensions are on par with the cold war, another answer may come from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford, who last week warned Congress that the implementation of a No Fly Zone in Syria as proposed by John Kerry recently, and a centerpiece of Hillary’s foreign policy strategy, would result in World War III.
During testimony before the Senate Committee on Armed Services last week General Joseph Dunford rang the alarm over a policy shift that is gaining more traction within the halls of Washington following the collapse of the ceasefire brokered by the United States and Russia in Syria saying that it could result in a major international war which he was not prepared to advocate on behalf of. Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi asked about Hillary Clinton’s proposal for a no fly zone in Syria in response to allegations that Russia and Syria have intensified their aerial bombardment of rebel-held East Aleppo since the collapse of the ceasefire.
“What about the option of controlling the airspace so that barrel bombs cannot be dropped? What do you think of that option?” asked Wicker. “Right now, Senator, for us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia. That is a pretty fundamental decision that certainly I’m not going to make,” said the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggesting the policy was too hawkish even for military leaders.
As a reminder, Hillary Clinton strongly argued in favor of a no fly zone ever since October 2015, just days after Russia began a bombing campaign aimed at maintaining the stability of the Syrian government. “I personally would be advocating now for a no fly zone and humanitarian corridors to try to stop the carnage on the ground and from the air, to try to provide some way to take stock of what’s happening, to try to stem the flow of refugees,” said Clinton in an interview with NBC in October 2015.
Despite the warnings, the former Secretary of State and current presidential candidate, who has a well-known hawkish position towards regime change and matters related to Russia, has continued to advocate this position which has gained traction in recent weeks among top US diplomats.
Clinton is note alone: as the WSJ reported in June, more than 50 US diplomats endorsed a notorious dissent memo, demanding that that the Obama administration employ military options against Assad, such as the implementation of a no fly zone if not a direct attack against the Syrian regime. The argument from the diplomats is that the situation in Syria will continue to devolve without direct action by the US military, an argument of dubious legality if undertaken unilaterally without a UN Security Council resolution but which as Sputnik reports, the US Ambassador to the UN Samantha Power has been laying the groundwork for under the controversial “right to protect” theory of international law arguing that Russia’s opposition to a resolution should be ignored because they are a party to the conflict.
Russia, in turn, has countered that if the Assad regime falls then terrorist groups including ISIS and al-Nusra Front will likely fill the resulting power vacuum descending the country into an even greater harbor for international terrorism. Ultimately, the Syrian conflict is fundamentally about the transport of energy, and whether Russia maintains its dominance over European natural gas imports, or if – with the Syrian regime deposed – a Qatar natural gas pipeline can cross the territory and make its way to Europe.
As for the Russian nuclear war drill, we can only hope that any such rising hints of nuclear warfare remain in the realm of the purely theoretical.
“Randy” from Canada has assured us that Hillary Clinton will not get us into a war directly with Russia. It’ll only be a proxy war, he says. For Randy’s sake, I hope he lives in northern British Columbia, because anyone who lives in Winnipeg and points east would catch the radiation cloud from the bombed out silos in North Dakota.
US Considering Air Strikes On Assad Regime After Top General Warns It Could Lead To War With Russia
by Tyler Durden
Oct 4, 2016 2:48 PM
Now that the gloves have come off in the faux diplomacy between Russia and the US, which yesterday culminated with Putin halting a Plutonium cleanup effort with the US, shortly before the US State Department announced it would end negotiations with Russia over Syria, the next step may be one which John Kerry warned last week is “back on the table”, namely the launch of military strikes on the Assad regime.
As WaPo reports, meetings have been going on within US national security agencies for weeks to consider new options to recommend to the president to address the ongoing crisis in Aleppo. A meeting of the Principals Committee, which includes Cabinet-level officials, is scheduled for Wednesday while a meeting of the National Security Council, which could include the president, could come as early as this weekend.
As Reuters hinted last week, at a Deputies Committee meeting at the White House, officials from the State Department, the CIA and the Joint Chiefs of Staff discussed limited military strikes against the regime as a “means of forcing Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad to pay a cost for his violations of the cease-fire, disrupt his ability to continue committing war crimes against civilians in Aleppo, and raise the pressure on the regime to come back to the negotiating table in a serious way.” Or, in other words, to cut to the chase and go right back to what the US was hoping to achieve in Syria in the first place: another regime change.
Among the options considered include bombing Syrian air force runways using cruise missiles and other long-range weapons fired from coalition planes and ships. One proposed way to get around the White House’s long-standing objection to striking the Assad regime without a U.N. Security Council resolution would be to carry out the strikes covertly and without public acknowledgment, the official said. In other words, the warhawks in the administration are actively contemplating not only bypassing the White House, but flaunting the UN and launching a sovereign incursions, also known as a war, against Syria.
The CIA and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, represented in the Deputies Committee meeting by Vice Chairman Gen. Paul Selva, expressed support for such “kinetic” options, the official said. That marked an increase of support for striking Assad compared with the last time such options were considered.
“There’s an increased mood in support of kinetic actions against the regime,” one senior administration official said. “The CIA and the Joint Staff have said that the fall of Aleppo would undermine America’s counterterrorism goals in Syria.”
The good news is that, at least for now, not everyone involved in the discussion is a hawkish neocon. According to WaPo there’s still skepticism that the White House will approve military action. Other administration officials told The Post this week that Obama is no more willing to commit U.S. military force inside Syria than he was previously and that each of the military options being discussed have negative risks or consequences.
There is another problem: launching bombing raides over Syria would necessarily require the creation of a “no fly zone” for Syrian and, more importantly, Russian warplanes. However, as we noted yesterday, during testimony before the Senate Committee on Armed Services last week General Joseph Dunford rang the alarm over a policy shift that is gaining more traction within the halls of Washington following the collapse of the ceasefire brokered by the United States and Russia in Syria saying that it could result in a major international war which he was not prepared to advocate on behalf of.
The notable exchange took place after Senator Roger Wicker of Mississippi asked about Hillary Clinton’s proposal for a no fly zone in Syria in response to allegations that Russia and Syria have intensified their aerial bombardment of rebel-held East Aleppo since the collapse of the ceasefire.
“What about the option of controlling the airspace so that barrel bombs cannot be dropped? What do you think of that option?” asked Wicker. “Right now, Senator, for us to control all of the airspace in Syria would require us to go to war against Syria and Russia. That is a pretty fundamental decision that certainly I’m not going to make,” said the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff suggesting the policy was too hawkish even for military leaders.
As we further added last night, despite Dunford’s warning, the military angle has gained traction in recent weeks among top US diplomats, as today’s WaPo report confirms.
And since the report is, at least for now, just a trial balloon to gauge the Russian reaction to a potential US military incursion, we now wait to see what Putin’s reaction to the possibility of a US military campaign in Syria will be.
The Russians have already made up their mind.
http://english.almanar.com.lb/53227
The SA-23’s are being assembled as I type in Tartus. If the Tomahawks get launched they will have to take these batteries out. Manned by Russians. Then things get out of control real quick. And if Iranians get attacked every ship in Persian Gulf will be under threat from SS-22 and SS-26 supersonic missiles. Hopefully the neoCONS give up on spreading democracy. Let Assad and the Russians have Alleppo. Even randy should agree that it ain’t worth it. It is just a pile of fucking rubble now anyways.
Hopefully cooler heads prevail. Otherwise we are going to find out real quick how well CV’s float when they are full of holes.
In the meantime
GO Jays!
Not a lot gets reported but the Russians appear to be preparing for actual aerial and ground combat with the US over Syria.
And not without reason since we have threatened them with a no fly zone, over the rebel held Syrian territory, where their planes will be shot down and increased our support for ISIS factions trying to overthrow Assad and claim Syria as a part of the Islamic State.
This will be interesting, maybe we’ll get to see if both Obama and Putin or which one of them is just being a tough talking pretender of it they will both stand behind their words and not keep moving the line back to avoid anything actually happening.
Wonder what influence WWIII might have on the upcoming elections if it happens before instead of after them?
This is so freakin typical of the gang that can’t shoot straight. Obama, the great community organizing communist would love nothing more than leave a roaring fire for his successor or maybe TRY to use the fire to cover an election theft. Secretariat Kerry, who served in VietNam, seems more worried about letting Putin look stronger that he is willing to blow Syria even further to smithereens to rescue his masculinity. What a great foreign policy legacy, Hill.
I’m told voting doesn’t matter this year.
I’m supposed to believe it’s no big deal if Hillcunt ignites WWIII over Syria. USA!USA!USA! We gotta show strength!!!
I’m supposed to believe that Trump wanting to get along with Russia is bad, very bad.
Lemme tell YOU something …….. VOTE TRUMP, SAVE AMERICA!! (Even though he’s a dick.)
1. Why must Assad go??
2. What do we gain by it???
Answer BOTH questions to my satisfaction, and I will post my latest video of me having sex with a local pony.
WWIII over fucken Syria. What a fine country we have.
@Stuck,
1. We have no business in Syria
2. We gain nothing by our involvement
3. Suggest we ask for a Mulligan, apologize, and pay up
4. Stucky, please spare the pony
“The CIA and the Joint Staff have said that the fall of Aleppo would undermine America’s counterterrorism goals in Syria.”
(one senior administration official said).
“The CIA and the Joint Staff have said that the fall of Aleppo would undermine America’s terrorist policy of REGIME CHANGE goals in Syria.”
Fixed it.
Here’s yer peace deal for Syria.
1) Assad stays.
2) We go.
4 min of Alex Jones
http://youtu.be/yEXvN–l4rI
Here is a Russian’s outlook on whether the US will attack Russia
It is EXTREMELY reasonable and logical.
Obama Warned To Defuse Tensions With Russia, “Unintended Consequences Likely To Be Catastrophic”
by Tyler Durden
Oct 4, 2016 4:25 PM
Via ConsortiumNews.com,
A group of ex-U.S. intelligence officials is warning President Obama to defuse growing tensions with Russia over Syria by reining in the demonization of President Putin and asserting White House civilian control over the Pentagon.
ALERT MEMORANDUM FOR: The President
FROM: Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
SUBJECT: PREVENTING STILL WORSE IN SYRIA
We write to alert you, as we did President George W. Bush, six weeks before the attack on Iraq, that the consequences of limiting your circle of advisers to a small, relatively inexperienced coterie with a dubious record for wisdom can prove disastrous.* Our concern this time regards Syria.
We are hoping that your President’s Daily Brief tomorrow will give appropriate attention to Saturday’s warning by Russia’s Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova: “If the US launches a direct aggression against Damascus and the Syrian Army, it would cause a terrible, tectonic shift not only in the country, but in the entire region.”
Speaking on Russian TV, she warned of those whose “logic is ‘why do we need diplomacy’ … when there is power … and methods of resolving a problem by power. We already know this logic; there is nothing new about it. It usually ends with one thing – full-scale war.”
We are also hoping that this is not the first you have heard of this – no doubt officially approved – statement. If on Sundays you rely on the “mainstream” press, you may well have missed it. In the Washington Post, an abridged report of Zakharova’s remarks (nothing about “full-scale war”) was buried in the last paragraph of an 11-paragraph article titled “Hospital in Aleppo is hit again by bombs.” Sunday’s New York Times totally ignored the Foreign Ministry spokesperson’s statements.
In our view, it would be a huge mistake to allow your national security advisers to follow the example of the Post and Times in minimizing the importance of Zakharova’s remarks.
Events over the past several weeks have led Russian officials to distrust Secretary of State John Kerry. Indeed, Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, who parses his words carefully, has publicly expressed that distrust. Some Russian officials suspect that Kerry has been playing a double game; others believe that, however much he may strive for progress through diplomacy, he cannot deliver on his commitments because the Pentagon undercuts him every time. We believe that this lack of trust is a challenge that must be overcome and that, at this point, only you can accomplish this.
It should not be attributed to paranoia on the Russians’ part that they suspect the Sept. 17 U.S. and Australian air attacks on Syrian army troops that killed 62 and wounded 100 was no “mistake,” but rather a deliberate attempt to scuttle the partial cease-fire Kerry and Lavrov had agreed on – with your approval and that of President Putin – that took effect just five days earlier.
In public remarks bordering on the insubordinate, senior Pentagon officials showed unusually open skepticism regarding key aspects of the Kerry-Lavrov deal. We can assume that what Lavrov has told his boss in private is close to his uncharacteristically blunt words on Russian NTV on Sept. 26:
“My good friend John Kerry … is under fierce criticism from the US military machine. Despite the fact that, as always, [they] made assurances that the US Commander in Chief, President Barack Obama, supported him in his contacts with Russia (he confirmed that during his meeting with President Vladimir Putin), apparently the military does not really listen to the Commander in Chief.”
Lavrov’s words are not mere rhetoric. He also criticized JCS Chairman Joseph Dunford for telling Congress that he opposed sharing intelligence with Russia, “after the agreements concluded on direct orders of Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Barack Obama stipulated that they would share intelligence. … It is difficult to work with such partners. …”
Policy differences between the White House and the Pentagon are rarely as openly expressed as they are now over policy on Syria. We suggest you get hold of a new book to be released this week titled The General vs. the President: MacArthur and Truman at the Brink of Nuclear War by master historian H. W. Brands. It includes testimony, earlier redacted, that sheds light on why President Truman dismissed WWII hero Gen. Douglas MacArthur from command of U.N. forces in Korea in April 1951. One early reviewer notes that “Brands’s narrative makes us wonder about challenges of military versus civilian leadership we still face today.” You may find this new book more relevant at this point in time than the Team of Rivals.
The door to further negotiations remains ajar. In recent days, officials of the Russian foreign and defense ministries, as well as President Putin’s spokesman, have carefully avoided shutting that door, and we find it a good sign that Secretary Kerry has been on the phone with Foreign Minister Lavrov. And the Russians have also emphasized Moscow’s continued willingness to honor previous agreements on Syria.
In the Kremlin’s view, Russia has far more skin in the game than the U.S. does. Thousands of Russian dissident terrorists have found their way to Syria, where they obtain weapons, funding, and practical experience in waging violent insurgency. There is understandable worry on Moscow’s part over the threat they will pose when they come back home. In addition, President Putin can be assumed to be under the same kind of pressure you face from the military to order it to try to clean out the mess in Syria “once and for all,” regardless how dim the prospects for a military solution are for either side in Syria.
We are aware that many in Congress and the “mainstream” media are now calling on you to up the ante and respond – overtly or covertly or both – with more violence in Syria. Shades of the “Washington Playbook,” about which you spoke derisively in interviews with the Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg earlier this year. We take some encouragement in your acknowledgment to Goldberg that the “playbook” can be “a trap that can lead to bad decisions” – not to mention doing “stupid stuff.”
Goldberg wrote that you felt the Pentagon had “jammed” you on the troop surge for Afghanistan seven years ago and that the same thing almost happened three years ago on Syria, before President Putin persuaded Syria to surrender its chemical weapons for destruction. It seems that the kind of approach that worked then should be tried now, as well – particularly if you are starting to feel jammed once again.
Incidentally, it would be helpful toward that end if you had one of your staffers tell the “mainstream” media to tone down it puerile, nasty – and for the most part unjustified and certainly unhelpful – personal vilification of President Putin.
Renewing direct dialogue with President Putin might well offer the best chance to ensure an end, finally, to unwanted “jamming.” We believe John Kerry is correct in emphasizing how frightfully complicated the disarray in Syria is amid the various vying interests and factions. At the same time, he has already done much of the necessary spadework and has found Lavrov for the most part, a helpful partner.
Still, in view of lingering Russian – and not only Russian – skepticism regarding the strength of your support for your secretary of state, we believe that discussions at the highest level would be the best way to prevent hotheads on either side from risking the kind of armed confrontation that nobody should want.
Therefore, we strongly recommend that you invite President Putin to meet with you in a mutually convenient place, in order to try to sort things out and prevent still worse for the people of Syria.
In the wake of the carnage of World War II, Winston Churchill made an observation that is equally applicable to our 21st Century: “To jaw, jaw, jaw, is better than to war, war, war.”
For the Steering Group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity
William Binney, former Technical Director, World Geopolitical & Military Analysis, NSA; co-founder, SIGINT Automation Research Center (ret.)
Fred Costello, Former Russian Linguist, USAF
Mike Gravel, former Adjutant, top secret control officer, Communications Intelligence Service; special agent of the Counter Intelligence Corps and former United States Senator
Matthew Hoh, former Capt., USMC, Iraq & Foreign Service Officer, Afghanistan (associate VIPS)
Larry C. Johnson, CIA & State Department (ret.)
John Kiriakou, former CIA counterterrorism officer and former senior investigator, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
Linda Lewis, WMD preparedness policy analyst, USDA (ret.) (associate VIPS)
Edward Loomis, NSA, Cryptologic Computer Scientist (ret.)
Ray McGovern, former US Army infantry/intelligence officer & CIA analyst (ret.)
Elizabeth Murray, Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Middle East, CIA (ret.)
Todd Pierce, MAJ, US Army Judge Advocate (ret.)
Coleen Rowley, Division Counsel & Special Agent, FBI (ret.)
Kirk Wiebe, former Senior Analyst, SIGINT Automation Research Center, NSA, (ret.)
Robert Wing, former Foreign Service Officer
Ann Wright, U.S. Army Reserve Colonel (ret) and former U.S. Diplomat
* In a Memorandum to President Bush criticizing Colin Powell’s address to the UN earlier on February 5, 2003, VIPS ended with these words: “After watching Secretary Powell today, we are convinced that you would be well served if you widened the discussion … beyond the circle of those advisers clearly bent on a war for which we see no compelling reason and from which we believe the unintended consequences are likely to be catastrophic.”
This is how USSR behaves when the IMF adds the Yaun to the SDR. They are putting China on the same playing field as the West, leaving the Russian out of the club.
Effective October 1, 2016 the SDR basket consists of the U.S. dollar, euro, the Chinese renminbi, Japanese yen, and pound sterling.
behind every military action is a political action.
“U.S. Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs Victoria Nuland will arrive in Moscow on Oct. 4 evening, [that’s TONIGHT] a diplomatic source has told TASS.”
Stucky places the odds of war erupting shortly after she leaves at 50-50.
For all you #NeverTrumper idiots, this is what I have been warning you about. Fail to vote for Trump and you may literally be killing yourselves, your families, your friends and your country, not to mention the rest of the West. The Russians have had it with us and so have the Chinese. These are ruthless, terrible hard-eyed men. They don´t give a shit about international law, refugees, the Geneva Convention, the UN, the EU or us. If they even suspect that the idle gibberish spouted by that puerile fool Kerry presages any military action they may decide to jump first. Do you understand that we are on the edge of an abyss? And Obama – the ridiculous clown – now wants more homo fighter pilots in the God damn Air Force! it is beyond parody, beyond any possibility of getting worse. Unless, of course, they decide to teach us a lesson by a limited attack that exposes our vaunted military as a toothless lion, a naked emperor. Brace for collision, folks.
40 million Russians taking part in a “Nuclear Disaster” drill is not a “Drill” – It’s preparation for WAR.
I’m not saying they’ve made the decision to go to war, what I’m saying is they’re preparing to be able to make the decision to go to war.
Quite a feat for Lavrov to shake hands with Kerry – he has to hate the bastard (and the entire U.S. delegation).
(((Nuland))) will fuck this up for sure. There are Russian subs off the East and West coasts of the US right now. The SDR is set to go, the war is posed and set to go. Russians are hunkered down while Merikans are COMPLETELY CLUELESS. Starting to look like a red dawn moment? WOLVERINES !!!!
Admin – My new picture looks like a constipated piece of bubble gum? What happened?
Just throwing this out there. Anyone want to help me fill in the blanks? I’m okay with a good flaming too. I’m trying to grasp the big picture.
Proposed sequence of events by the end of 2017 and beyond and some additional thoughts:
Limited nuclear exchange with Russia and it’s allies to stampede the US, Russians if it is possible, (they are preparing their people with massive exercises and underground bunkers), and other holdouts into the NWO and to shore up the rest of the decaying “old world”. (They will scorch the earth before allowing their ill-gotten gains to slip through their claws at the last minute. They will never allow an AMEX, ever, or a BREXIT repeat.) -Before the end of this year.
Full court press condemning alt-right and deplorables and all who “see” and resist.
Internet metered, censored or shut down for periods of time. My brain explodes at the thought of this heinous act in an attempt to mute the spirit of freedom’s last bastion.
Martial Law and the suspension of Constitutional Government and Bill of Rights. But it won’t last long.
(We’re not going to see the end of Obama as president/Supreme Leader at this “selection”.) Even if Trump, by some miracle is elected, and I really don’t believe this will happen, the deep state will still be completely in place.
Full court press for gun confiscation, if Obama/Clinton. (Not that it will matter much.)
All resistance to NWO rounded up. (FEMA “Re-education” Camps)
Inner city purging as they riot, by government or those who’ve had enough. (or both)
Massive Civil Unrest/Civil War? Not sure about this although many seem convinced it’s coming.
New world monetary system unveiled and (some) debt forgiveness carrots offered as bribes (Mark of the Beast to follow?)
Chrislam inaugurated.
Catholic Church “captured and neutered” through adoption of heretical teachings. (It’s mostly there now.)
Divine Intervention – Prophecised (sp?) Spell check not checking!
(The Warning – (also prophecised) we will see ourselves in our inmost being as we are seen. Think of this as a global mass Confession, imposed on us for our own good, at least for those who have the guts to acknowledge the truth about themselves) This has been presented through literally dozens of seers, historically, recently and currently active around the globe. (I have links and much more information about this if interested.)
2nd Pentecost -Rebirth of a corrected conscience and of worship in Spirit and Truth and inauguration of a new age of miracles. (The Warning has a source and we recognize him now. (lightning paced global conversion)(Conscience reborn and vivified through the Spirit) (The dark forces will call for the “mountains to fall on them” when this begins, as they see their glorious vision utterly shattered and their influence neutered.)
A period of peace and renewal will begin. Imagine nothing dark or malevolent or suspicious or selfish muddying our relationships with one another, and a rebirth of human dignity as never before seen and totally unexpected. The shock of this and the speed of it’s unfolding consequences will obliterate all resistance.
The Great Shaking. The Moon, sun and stars are reoriented and civil governments, societies and religious organizations get back on track. The gifts of the Spirit flood the planet and renew the face of the earth…for a time.
Interim “New Jerusalem”, since history works in progressive cycles.
We’re a stubborn lot.
“We think of the great powers of the present day, of the anonymous financial interests which turn men into slaves, which are no longer human things, but are an anonymous power which men serve, by which men are tormented and even slaughtered. They are a destructive power, a power that menaces the world.” —BENEDICT XVI, Reflection after the reading of the office for the Third Hour, Vatican City, October 11, 2010
St. Pope John Paul II:
“We are now standing in the face of the greatest historical confrontation humanity has ever experienced. We are now facing the final confrontation between the Church and the anti-church, between the Gospel and the anti-gospel, between Christ and the antichrist.” —Eucharistic Congress, for the bicentennial celebration of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, Philadelphia, PA, 1976
But I rant…
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That’s a very detailed bad case. I disagree on most of the details, but I think you have the big picture of what “they” (or (((they)))?) are trying to achieve. It won’t work, however. There have been much better and more realistic plans for global conquest before and none of those worked either.
The push for a new false religion is one thing I do think is going on and likely to intensify. All the pro-islam crap is obviously suspect. It’s a base religion made to manipulate large masses of the not too bright. The destruction of the Vatican is also 99% complete at this point with the current anti-pope and his predecessor Darth Sidious. Religion has long been a primary tool for controlling the masses, and there is some interesting, albeit tinfoil-hat, indications that the people who brought you 9/11 and other major events also have or are working on a way to project huge holograms in the sky, which might be used to create a “religious experience” for this type of purpose.
Thank you for your response Persnickety the inscrutably deplorable. I have a lot of stuff rattling around between my ears. I’d really like to develop a sequence of events. How do you “see” the sequence as we progress towards collapse?
I don’t think it’s worthwhile to develop any detailed sequence unless you’re doing so as fiction in the hopes of it getting published.
I would look for several general trends including:
-increasingly charged rhetoric at the national and international level
-increasing civil unrest at home
-tangible signs of military tension
-express warnings in diplomacy that “X” is a line in the sand which the other country must not cross
-major investors pulling out of foreign and/or risk assets
Does any of this sound familiar???????
The year or two prior to each World War and to the US civil war (1.0) look quite similar to the last year’s news.
“Limited nuclear exchange with Russia …” ——— raven
One country drops a bomb. Then that country drops a bomb on an even bigger city … more than likely, they drop at least two bombs to “send a message”. And then it escalates from there, until no bombs are left. I have no idea that once the carnage is unleashed, that it will stay “limited”. That’s a neocon pipe dream.
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“Rebirth of a corrected conscience and of worship in Spirit and Truth and inauguration of a new age of miracles. (The Warning has a source and we recognize him now. (lightning paced global conversion)(Conscience reborn and vivified through the Spirit).”
What the hell are you talking about? Sounds like new-age gobbledegook. So solly, you asked.
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your thoughts. I just typed a long, detailed and thoughtful response to you, but it’s been lost. Maybe you’re not supposed to have this information. Pearls to swine and all that? J/K!! 🙂
Some of what I referred to above is from Mark Mallet. Been following prophecy for 40 years or so now. He’s sober-minded. clear-thinking, recollected, in a word, he’s solid. Authentic Catholic. Not what masquerades as Catholicism, or Christianity for that matter, today. Knows church history, tradition and most encyclicals and quotes from all of them frequently. He’s expecting The Storm as he calls it. Although it has connections to 4th Turning thinking, it appears to be unrelated. His time frame is more compressed and imminent. We’re not talking “bible thumping” here. He writes as reflection, but there’s obviously much more going on. There are many active Catholic “seers” around the world right now. Many have Church approval. There are also many who were active in the last two centuries who have directed prophecy at these times. Really interesting and well-documented events were recorded. Anyway, if anyone is interested, Mark Mallet can be found here: http://www.markmallet.com/blog
A dozen comments in the last THREE hours. Ok, then.
Anybody watching the Veep “debates”? Ten minutes in I had to leave. I think they located Clinton’s stinky vagina … his name is Tim Kane.
What a fucken douchebag. He STARTS his opening bringing up the fucking race card — mentioning that twit Rosa Parks …. then moves to the gender horseshit about Hillcunt’s “historic” run for the Presidency. Then closes with him saying he trusts Hillary in charge of the military, but is terrified if Trump does. Pence starts to speak and Kane repeatedly interrupts him, smirks, rolls his eyes …. what a dick.
I didn’t think it was possible to fucking loathe & hate & despise someone after just 10 minutes. But, Kane did convinced me.
Well, I can’t go back and watch that bullshit, and there’s no one here … so, I guess I’ll just go spend time with my pony.
Stucky watching ball game. Might comment later. If Jays lose then WW3 can start.
Anyways saw this thought it was funny.
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Cancel WW3 Encarnacion homerun!
The Ruskies needn’t worry, TBPers are ready to love-bomb them.
Putin – they love us for our whiteness.
EC- Did you forget…keep your friends close and your enemies closer. It just looks like TBPers in love.
Eric Trump looks like a little bitch. Reminds me of noobs who post an angry rant about the narrow minded folks here and then flop on their couch and weep.
So the Russians held an evacuation drill in the event of nuclear war. Shoot, we did this repeatedly in the early sixties. When the missiles launch, locate the closest wooden school desk and crawl under, guarantied to save your ass! Stooopid Rooskies…
“Duck and cover” drills were not even half-assed, they were the TSA of the atomic age.
Russia isn’t doing that crap. The Moscow subway system is very deeply buried and they’ve had almost a century to work on it, with 70 years of that in the nuclear age. If you have some form of blast doors at the entrances, and periodically along the tunnels, you could expect a lot of the stations to survive anything short of a direct hit. Of course the US could target each station with ground penetrating warheads, but Moscow is protected by an ABM system and has been since the early 70’s, and they now have a range of SAMs with ABM capability, which you can assume are in place all around Moscow.
Do not assume this is some theatrical exercise. It’s highly disruptive to Russia and you can bet it’s being done as a real drill over real concerns.
“Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your thoughts. I just typed a long, detailed and thoughtful response to you, but it’s been lost.” ——- raven
Thanks.
Losing long responses is soooo frustrating!! It’s happened to me. Then I wised up. Anything longer than a couple paragraphs I now type up in Word (and then copy and paste). Haven’t “lost” a reply since! Try it, you’ll love it.
Ahhhh …. prophecy. My dear, don’t take this personally, I simply don’t believe in it. I do not believe people can see a future which, by definition, hasn’t even happened yet AS A FACT that it will. Futurists, predictors, and prognosticators? Sure. But, not “prophets”. Just the way I am. It’s not you, it’s me.