April Fools: In the New Age of Deception, Coronavirus has Hastened the Old Collectivism

By Doug “Uncola” Lynn via TheBurningPlatform.com

 

“…..but the plan insidiously advances.”

ordo ab chao

 

They are banned from churches and public spaces. They can’t hold hands to pray. LOL!

The Devil

 

At the very end of last year, I wrote a New Year’s piece entitled “America is Over But You Knew That Already”, whereby various “cracks and water in the nation’s foundation” were explored.  In that article, I said:  “winter is finally here” along with these words:

 Exactly how and when America’s foundational stones will shatter in the coming months is anyone’s guess, but do know this:  When Progressive Democrats, and an activist mainstream media, stage a third-world impeachment trial of a U.S. President while reverently citing the words of the nation’s long-dead founders who were, by their own definition, privileged white males and racist slave owners – the end is nigh.

In a later article, six reasons were explored as to why the COVID-19 virus failed “the sniff test” along with the coincidental timing that marked the rise of the virus:

[the first COVID-19 death outside of China] was one day before the Iowa Caucuses were held (2-3-2020) where the results were massaged to raise Mayor Pete over Bernie and bump Biden to the bare minimum viability.

It was also two days before the Diamond Princess cruise ship was quarantined in Japan … and three days before Trump was acquitted in the Senate.

The World Health Organization (WHO) declared the 2019-nCoV outbreak a global health emergency on January 30, 2020 when China’s death count was 213.  How did they know? Regardless, the next day, President Trump declared the outbreak a public health emergency and restricted travel from China even as the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Dr. Anthony Fauci, cited “8,000 deaths in the U.S. this season” from influenza.

Yet, in spite of COVID-19 being deemed infectious enough for WHO to declare a global health emergency, and Trump to declare a public health emergency, American citizens were evacuated from ground zero in Wuhan China and flown to March Air Reserve Base in Southern California.  Additionally, over “300 U.S. citizens and their immediate family members” were transported from the Diamond Princess ship to Travis Air Force Base in Northern California, Lackland Air Force Base in Texas, and the University of Nebraska.

Next, the Center for Disease Control (CDC) released a COVID-19 infected former Diamond Princess passenger who was “mistakenly” allowed to spend two hours at a San Antonio mall.

These are the paradoxes of the Coronavirus pandemic:  We were told the virus was extremely contagious and, yet, just as global and national health emergencies were declared, Americans infected with COVID-19 were repatriated to four (4) separate locations around the United States simultaneously.

Even now, all across America… bars, restaurants, and small businesses are shuttered as no more than 10 people are allowed to gather together at any given time.  But, American’s First Amendment Right to Free Assembly remains viable at Wal-Mart. No problem there.  And grocery stores are also deemed “essential” around the country – even as “dead bodies are loaded into refrigerated trucks outside New York hospitals”.

Indeed, there have been many oddities during the Coronavirus outbreak.  One peculiarity is how the same players consistently appear to advance the narrative; to wit, Bill Gates, John Hopkins University, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), and the World Health Organization (WHO).  These show up almost everywhere Coronavirus tales are told and, perhaps unsurprisingly, participated in the October 2019 Event 201 Pandemic Exercise – a near-exact simulation which took place a mere few weeks before the current COVID-19 outbreak went viral globally.

Although Bill Gates acknowledged “it’s super painful”, he urged a “10-week nationwide lockdown”  during a CNN Global Town Hall on March 26, 2020 and has since outlined three steps for the U.S. Government’s response to the COVID-19 outbreak to include lockdown, testing, and vaccination.

But wait… isn’t Bill Gates the computer software guy? Yet he is now advocating for a national lockdown and specific COVID-19 response measures.  How did he get from there to here exactly? Because, at this point, would you be surprised if outer space aliens landed on earth tomorrow with the cure? I know I wouldn’t.

These frightening times have become surreal. And just as the photos of the dead bodies on the refrigeration truck were absolutely terrifying, endless headlines have increasingly generated more fear.  One prevailing theme tells of how Coronavirus threatens young people and the stories quite often cite the ever-available John Hopkins data:

A 28-year-old who said she and her boyfriend tested positive for the novel coronavirus is speaking out in hopes to remind the public that young, healthy adults are still at risk.

Noemi Orofino and her boyfriend Julian, 31, are now in recovery after fighting the COVID-19 virus, the new respiratory illness in which hundreds of thousands have been diagnosed globally, according to data compiled by the Center for Systems Science and Engineering at Johns Hopkins University.

The COVID-19 monster has infected actor Tom Hanks and his wife, various celebrities and athletes, and even recently killed CBS News veteran, Maria Mercader, who was only 54 years old.  Of course, there were some underlying issues:

CBS News said Mercader fought cancer and related illnesses for more than 20 years, and noted that numerous treatments and surgeries had left her among the most vulnerable to the disease.

In the video below, Dr. John Ioannidis of Stanford University, provides some insights into the data behind COVID-19, underlying conditions, infectivity and mortality rates, as well as how various countries have handled the “outbreak”.  Dr. Ioannidis also shares some observations as to why Italy was gobsmacked by the virus more than other nations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6MZy-2fcBw

Now, contrast that presentation to the hysteria and emotionalism we’ve seen in the daily reporting of COVID-19.  But, when you think about it, hasn’t hysteria and emotionalism been utilized throughout history to hasten the agendas of collectivism?  In America, the most recent histrionics have been over climate change, identity politics, gun control, Orange Man bad, Russian election hacking, Judge Kavanaugh rape fantasies, Ukraine, impeachment, and… now…  social distancing.

But where the former fell short, the last one has succeeded; a Hail Mary, as it were.

Overreaction to the novel virus has had the support of both Left and Right politicos as well as the mainstream and alternative media universes.  And, as a result, Virginians can now be jailed for a year for attending church services with 10 people.  Certainly, COVID-19 has provided new energy to Leftist schemes with brave new headlines in the New York Times such as “The Road to Coronavirus Hell Was Paved by Evangelicals”:

Today, the hard core of climate deniers is concentrated among people who identify as religiously conservative Republicans. And some leaders of the Christian nationalist movement, like those allied with the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation, which has denounced environmental science as a “Cult of the Green Dragon,” cast environmentalism as an alternative — and false — theology.

This denial of science and critical thinking among religious ultraconservatives now haunts the American response to the coronavirus crisis.

The bipartisan $2.2 trillion Cornonavirus Relief Bill has, once again, bailed out banks and corporations with taxpayer funds.  And, as local businesses fade to black, global distribution networks are energized, and centralized, as companies like Wal-Mart and Amazon have benefited by the new normal.  Soon, the nation’s healthcare system will be nationalized as digital dinero sends paper cash the way of the dinosaur – right along with privacy. Every financial transaction will be tracked and taxed as private ownership of property and goods wanes like Joe Biden’s memory.

Instead of Coronavirus and COVID-19 the invisible threat could have been called Communistvirus or CHICOM-19.

In my previous article, I described how Coronavirus was an Orwellian-style PLANdemic that killed the Constitution:

COVID-19 is a perfect means for a global reset – and in the United States, it had to happen under a Republican president. Why? Because conservative Americans own the guns.

If all this was happening under Hillary, Biden, Sanders, et al, there would be politicians hanging from street lights in Washington DC. But Trump is the great anesthetizer. For the past couple of years I’ve been writing article after article on how everything we’ve been watching has seemed like a reality TV show; a movie in our mind’s eye.

So I ask you this: What if Hillary, Trump, Russiagate, Mueller, Ukrainegate, impeachment … all of it… was part of the plan; distractions and cover stories for the build-up to what is happening now?

It’s perfect. Too perfect.  And the timing was impeccable.

Even more than that:  It’s too insane not to be on purpose.

To be sure, the leftist agenda has progressed according to plan.

The collectivist activist, Saul Alinsky (1909-1972), in his early 1970s book “Rules for Radicals” included itemized strategies such as “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules” (# 4) and “The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition”(#10).  For decades, the Political Left has had a plan and they’ve worked that plan.

Accordingly, the Left has never held itself accountable as it relentlessly challenged its ideological opponents to meet the demands of their own code.  It’s why Virginia’s Governor Ralph Northam can wear blackface but comedienne Rosanne Barr can’t tweet a Planet of the Apes joke about former presidential aide Valerie Jarrett. It’s why Former President Bill Clinton can stain a blue dress but Judge Brett Kavanaugh is proven guilty of rape by vague recollections, lurid smears, and zero evidence.  It’s how a Republican president was impeached for actions taken years before by a Democrat Vice President.

Every day of the year, every hour, the pressure is steadily applied by the Collective and their Orwellian Media Ministry of Truth.  One drama unfolds, after another, after another until, today, even the compassion and civility of the American people has been weaponized into six-feet of separation.

In previous articles I’ve stated that COVID-19 has become the new Terrorism® and it’s stunning how “See Something, Say Something®” has been taken to entirely new levels with Coronavirus:

A group of armed vigilantes cut down a tree and dragged it across a man’s driveway in Maine to force him to quarantine in his home amid fears he could be infected with the coronavirus, officials said.

Welcome to the revolution. The individual must now assimilate into the collective.

The COVID-19 outbreak has proven to be a perfect coup de grace on America, and in ways we’re only beginning to realize.  It has caused We the People to turn on each other under the guise of caring for one another. Or, Essentialism, twisted from the words of collectivist revolutionary Karl Marx (1814 – 1883):  From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.

Here is a personal example of the new age:  A few days ago, a friend sent me some nasty texts because he was told I held a meeting with five other people on private property. He claimed I was minimizing the danger to others. I replied that he was hysterical.

In a few months, if not weeks, this guy will be begging for Government As God to save him, and, in so doing, I have no doubt he’d sell me out to any governing authority for any reason. We’re about to enter into a real Walking Dead scenario and the Dark Powers will be getting years of mileage out of COVID-19 in every aspect of post-American life.

Truly, the new age will be delivered by concentrically tightening circles of control – like a noose. The Powers That Be have successfully divided and dispersed what they have deemed a threat:  the American people.  All that remains now is the conquering, and it will come in waves, or seasonal cycles.

It has begun and will now continue as the month of April 2020 has been canceled.

April fools.

From now until further notice, the COVID-19 Overton Window should be compared to watching an action movie in a crowded movie theater. On our screens, we’ll see Trump, like Rambo, kicking ass and taking names.  But challenging the Coronavirus narrative will be akin to mute persons donning tinfoil hats and waving lighted cell phones from the back row.

The poet T.S. Elliot framed it best:

This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.

Hello? Can anyone hear? Anyone?

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Author: Uncola

I am one who has found the road less traveled while remaining a whiskered, whispering witness to the world. I hope what you just considered was worth the price and time spent. www.TheTollOnline.com

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RiNS
RiNS
April 1, 2020 12:58 pm

“Authority, when first detecting chaos at its heels, will entertain the vilest schemes to save its orderly facade.”

― Alan Moore, V for Vendetta

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icNitKfgsuM

4th Turner
4th Turner
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 3:47 pm

…and just as in V for Vendetta, there’s this: (~20 seconds)

[audio src="http://82.221.129.208/alexacorona2.mp3" /]

4th Turner
4th Turner
  4th Turner
April 4, 2020 2:13 am

By the way, another absolutely K¡ck @$$ article Doug!!

Whenever I feel like I have the basis of something that I could painstakingly express as to my take on what’s going on as well as what’s coming our way, I tune into TBP and find that you, or Admin, or most recently Hardscrabble have completely beaten me to the punch but have expressed things more eloquently than I could even imagine.

Well, as we’re at the weekend, I’ll offer y’all a li’l trip that one of my favorite üToobers definitely nailed for what we’ve all witnessed just a few years ago & just a few days ago: On the April Fool’s theme this is very suitable for L8 Nite viewing

GAZ
GAZ
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 6:26 pm

Sent to me buy an MD friend……

Clinical Pearls Covid 19 for ER practitioners
240,392 Views | 242 Replies | Last: 4 hrs ago by Pelayo
nawlinsag1:27a, 3/25/20
I just spent an hour typing a long post that erased when I went to change the title so I apologize to the grammar and spelling police. This one will not be proofread and much shorter.

I am an ER MD in New Orleans. Class of 98. Every one of my colleagues have now seen several hundred Covid 19 patients and this is what I think I know.

Clinical course is predictable.
2-11 days after exposure (day 5 on average) flu like symptoms start. Common are fever, headache, dry cough, myalgias(back pain), nausea without vomiting, abdominal discomfort with some diarrhea, loss of smell, anorexia, fatigue.

Day 5 of symptoms- increased SOB, and bilateral viral pneumonia from direct viral damage to lung parenchyma.

Day 10- Cytokine storm leading to acute ARDS and multiorgan failure. You can literally watch it happen in a matter of hours.

81% mild symptoms, 14% severe symptoms requiring hospitalization, 5% critical.

Patient presentation is varied. Patients are coming in hypoxic (even 75%) without dyspnea. I have seen Covid patients present with encephalopathy, renal failure from dehydration, DKA. I have seen the bilateral interstitial pneumonia on the xray of the asymptomatic shoulder dislocation or on the CT’s of the (respiratory) asymptomatic polytrauma patient. Essentially if they are in my ER, they have it. Seen three positive flu swabs in 2 weeks and all three had Covid 19 as well. Somehow this ***** has told all other disease processes to get out of town.

China reported 15% cardiac involvement. I have seen covid 19 patients present with myocarditis, pericarditis, new onset CHF and new onset atrial fibrillation. I still order a troponin, but no cardiologist will treat no matter what the number in a suspected Covid 19 patient. Even our non covid 19 STEMIs at all of our facilities are getting TPA in the ED and rescue PCI at 60 minutes only if TPA fails.

Diagnostic
CXR- bilateral interstitial pneumonia (anecdotally starts most often in the RLL so bilateral on CXR is not required). The hypoxia does not correlate with the CXR findings. Their lungs do not sound bad. Keep your stethoscope in your pocket and evaluate with your eyes and pulse ox.

Labs- WBC low, Lymphocytes low, platelets lower then their normal, Procalcitonin normal in 95%
CRP and Ferritin elevated most often. CPK, D-Dimer, LDH, Alk Phos/AST/ALT commonly elevated.
Notice D-Dimer- I would be very careful about CT PE these patients for their hypoxia. The patients receiving IV contrast are going into renal failure and on the vent sooner.

Basically, if you have a bilateral pneumonia with normal to low WBC, lymphopenia, normal procalcitonin, elevated CRP and ferritin- you have covid-19 and do not need a nasal swab to tell you that.

A ratio of absolute neutrophil count to absolute lymphocyte count greater than 3.5 may be the highest predictor of poor outcome. the UK is automatically intubating these patients for expected outcomes regardless of their clinical presentation.

An elevated Interleukin-6 (IL6) is an indicator of their cytokine storm. If this is elevated watch these patients closely with both eyes.

Other factors that appear to be predictive of poor outcomes are thrombocytopenia and LFTs 5x upper limit of normal.

Disposition
I had never discharged multifocal pneumonia before. Now I personally do it 12-15 times a shift. 2 weeks ago we were admitting anyone who needed supplemental oxygen. Now we are discharging with oxygen if the patient is comfortable and oxygenating above 92% on nasal cannula. We have contracted with a company that sends a paramedic to their home twice daily to check on them and record a pulse ox. We know many of these patients will bounce back but if it saves a bed for a day we have accomplished something. Obviously we are fearful some won’t make it back.

We are a small community hospital. Our 22 bed ICU and now a 4 bed Endoscopy suite are all Covid 19. All of these patients are intubated except one. 75% of our floor beds have been cohorted into covid 19 wards and are full. We are averaging 4 rescue intubations a day on the floor. We now have 9 vented patients in our ER transferred down from the floor after intubation.

Luckily we are part of a larger hospital group. Our main teaching hospital repurposed space to open 50 new Covid 19 ICU beds this past Sunday so these numbers are with significant decompression. Today those 50 beds are full. They are opening 30 more by Friday. But even with the “lockdown”, our AI models are expecting a 200-400% increase in covid 19 patients by 4/4/2020.

Treatment
Supportive

worldwide 86% of covid 19 patients that go on a vent die. Seattle reporting 70%. Our hospital has had 5 deaths and one patient who was extubated. Extubation happens on day 10 per the Chinese and day 11 per Seattle.

Plaquenil which has weak ACE2 blockade doesn’t appear to be a savior of any kind in our patient population. Theoretically, it may have some prophylactic properties but so far it is difficult to see the benefit to our hospitalized patients, but we are using it and the studies will tell. With Plaquenil’s potential QT prolongation and liver toxic effects (both particularly problematic in covid 19 patients), I am not longer selectively prescribing this medication as I stated on a previous post.

We are also using Azithromycin, but are intermittently running out of IV.

Do not give these patient’s standard sepsis fluid resuscitation. Be very judicious with the fluids as it hastens their respiratory decompensation. Outside the DKA and renal failure dehydration, leave them dry.

Proning vented patients significantly helps oxygenation. Even self proning the ones on nasal cannula helps.

Vent settings- Usual ARDS stuff, low volume, permissive hypercapnia, etc. Except for Peep of 5 will not do. Start at 14 and you may go up to 25 if needed.

Do not use Bipap- it does not work well and is a significant exposure risk with high levels of aerosolized virus to you and your staff. Even after a cough or sneeze this virus can aerosolize up to 3 hours.

The same goes for nebulizer treatments. Use MDI. you can give 8-10 puffs at one time of an albuterol MDI. Use only if wheezing which isn’t often with covid 19. If you have to give a nebulizer must be in a negative pressure room; and if you can, instruct the patient on how to start it after you leave the room.

Do not use steroids, it makes this worse. Push out to your urgent cares to stop their usual practice of steroid shots for their URI/bronchitis.

We are currently out of Versed, Fentanyl, and intermittently Propofol. Get the dosing of Precedex and Nimbex back in your heads.

One of my colleagues who is a 31 yo old female who graduated residency last may with no health problems and normal BMI is out with the symptoms and an SaO2 of 92%. She will be the first of many.

I PPE best I have. I do wear a MaxAir PAPR the entire shift. I do not take it off to eat or drink during the shift. I undress in the garage and go straight to the shower. My wife and kids fled to her parents outside Hattiesburg. The stress and exposure at work coupled with the isolation at home is trying. But everyone is going through something right now. Everyone is scared; patients and employees. But we are the leaders of that emergency room. Be nice to your nurses and staff. Show by example how to tackle this crisis head on. Good luck to us all.

RiNS
RiNS
  GAZ
April 1, 2020 7:22 pm
GAZ
GAZ
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 8:01 pm

My apologies to down voters. There are no talking pictures that move around and too many big words. 🙁

Uncola
  GAZ
April 1, 2020 8:26 pm

The whole post is interesting. And terrifying.

But this observation is extremely interesting. Extraordinary, in fact

Somehow this ***** has told all other disease processes to get out of town

Anonymous
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 11:19 pm

How the Chinese covered up the release of the Corona virus….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  GAZ
April 1, 2020 8:49 pm

“Sent to me by an MD friend” = Bullshit.

GAZ – never posted here before = Bullshit

Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
April 1, 2020 10:38 pm

Anonymous = Bullshit. Coward….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 6:49 pm

Mygirl = Hysterical woman

Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 7:27 pm

@Anonymous: chickenshit….go hide some more….

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl...maybe
April 3, 2020 9:04 am
RiNS
RiNS
  GAZ
April 1, 2020 9:26 pm

Does this MD know your friend GAZ?
Or are we talking about six degrees of bacon….

Mygirl...maybe
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 10:29 pm

Perhaps you should go to the original source for the NO md post? Or is that too tasking?

Mygirl...maybe
  Tony
April 2, 2020 1:49 pm

Tony
By golly, yet again, another ‘author’ claiming the virus a hoax citing an ‘anonymous’ source, while completely ignoring Italy, China, Iran and a few other countries, several cruise ships and now an aircraft carrier. My goodness, how easy to cherry pick. As to the test, tests and not testing, what you have is a six billion dollar joke aka: the CDC

Interesting how that article made no mention of how the CDC refused to use a pre existing test that worked well and instead
chose to ‘make’ one of their own, which flopped bigly.

Now, instead of posting one crap article, perhaps you should go educate yourself, do some research, get some facts….I know, it’s tough to actually seek out information rather than being spoon fed, but try it, you’ll be glad you did.

Here, read this for starters….
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615323/why-the-cdc-botched-its-coronavirus-testing/

Nobody
Nobody
  GAZ
April 1, 2020 10:42 pm

That is seemingly good intel but no links, no references to actual hospital to verify. It goes in the hearsay bucket until there are verifiable references.

One thing I would like to know if any genetic studies are being done on confirmed patients. PNAC stated in 200, Rebuilding America’s defenses in the 21st century document that ‘genetically targeted bioweapons can be transformed from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool’. Are these doctors not aware of the high stakes we are dealing with? If this is real it is quite possibly a bioweapon attack engineered for a very specific injury rate and target population.

Mygirl...maybe
  Nobody
April 1, 2020 11:01 pm

The article is from a comment left on a forum for Texas Aggies. For the uninitiated, Texas A & M university students are called aggies and in Texas, that school rates at the top in terms of connections and education.

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444

Nobody
Nobody
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 3:00 am

BOOM!
Here is another big problem for the covideers: https://needtoknow.news/2020/04/people-who-question-crisis-stories-from-mainstream-media-visit-hospitals-and-find-empty-emergency-rooms/

Btw: I went hospital this week and could not find proof of a single case. I got mixed info depending on who I spoke to. Closest I got to confirmation was 3 people had tested positive but were not in the hospital -but that info was regurgitated info from local media told to me by a nurse. There was no one waiting in ER. It was empty.

Mygirl...maybe
  Nobody
April 2, 2020 4:06 pm

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Nobody
April 2, 2020 12:38 pm

I read type A blood was a target as well as those with pre-existing conditions

Matt
Matt
  Nobody
April 4, 2020 6:32 am

Right. Lets get the name of the hospital.

brewer55
brewer55
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 9:51 am

Seriously though, why all the down votes? Do we have that many deniers in this forum? Was the post too long for them? Makes no sense to me.

RiNS
RiNS
  brewer55
April 2, 2020 10:06 am

What is being denied depends on who is making the frame…

Martel's Hammer
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 11:58 pm

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/america-preparing-civil-war The threat of the authoritarian state is motivating the herd at an unconscious level to arm up……adrenaline flowing, copper taste in mouth……hyper focus……get ready the fight is near…..they are getting ready even if they can’t verabalize yet…..don’t worry there are many who will help them point that bang stick in the correct direction.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  RiNS
April 3, 2020 1:09 pm

RiNS…

I watched this early a.m. on 4-2, interesting about the vacant hospital videos that are popping up, but at 33:15 he cuts to a Dr. giving a lecture for about ten minutes….’the electrification of the earth’.

I was going to leave a comment then about the influence of 5G, a question I made a half azzed attempt to ask the biologist on a bike: can/could the different frequency of 5G have an effect on the virus/cells………….

So, like I do three times a week or so, I’m fartin around in the garage listening to Alex Jones. Thirty minutes in, I here a voice that sounds familiar on a lecture he had led in to…I turned to look, and it’s the exact cut that was in this video you posted. As I type this, Jones is continuing with it, ongoing for about 40 minutes now….

FWIW, I believe ole Jonesy has been assigned as conductor on the Trump Train

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——-==

Polly Phenol
Polly Phenol
  GAZ
April 1, 2020 10:03 pm

Very comprehensive. The only thing missing was a suggestion to use the incubators that were freed up when the Iraqi Army threw all those Kuwaiti babies on the floor.

I think I have Covid-19. I feel nauseous.

Mygirl...maybe
  Polly Phenol
April 1, 2020 10:37 pm

Polly Phenol? That’s a new poster….howcum no one questions ol’ Polly but trashes ol’ Gaz? Could it be that Polly is spouting the ongoing narrative which is what an echo chamber needs?

Instead of trashing the notion that the virus is real, perhaps the more intelligent question should be, how is the virus being used to destroy the constitution and other civil rights. Then again, there are no civil rights anymore and the constitution is long dead and that happened long before the virus.

What I find amazing is how many are just now learning about those losses, like it was just now happening instead of a steady and pervasive shredding that happened post 9-11. Seems no one truly bothered to pay attention to the NDAA, the Patriot Act, the AUMF and what all those little items did to destroy your civil rights. Seems no one really understood the impact of the Federal Reserve and how it and it alone is the cause of the trillions of debt. Guess it’s better to wake up late rather than never, right?

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Mygirl...maybe
April 1, 2020 11:30 pm

The Federal Reserve?? Dear God Girl, that bitch has been fucking us for 117 years.

Mygirl...maybe
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 12:50 am

The Federal Reserve?? Dear God Girl, that bitch has been fucking us for 117 years.

I dare say I wrote words to that effect. Did you miss where I wrote how the Federal Reserve is the cause of the debt?

Polly Phenol
Polly Phenol
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 12:59 am

Did you miss where I wrote how the Federal Reserve is the cause of the debt?

“I’ll alert the media.” Sir John Gielgud (Arthur).

Paulita Senorita
Paulita Senorita
  Polly Phenol
April 2, 2020 9:02 am

so you are the new hollywood rob and mygirl is the five minutes hate target

is why she brought me in after finnegan’s wake

patterns are patterns

someone will show up stuck in misery soon if Someone doesn’t stop the bad plotting

Nobody
Nobody
  Mygirl...maybe
April 1, 2020 11:52 pm

We need to know the current claims are real first. I think everyone here is on-board with throwing the criminals who overthrew the Constitution in prison. The real issue that is being revealed in all of this is that the MSM/Gov/Instititions are such lying criminal scumbags that no one even believes them in a real crisis. The criminals always have an agenda to manufacturer crisis for solutions around their criminal agenda. This whole situation proves that we MUSTarrest every criminal in media and gov and permanently remove them from society for the DANGER their lies, frauds and unconstitutional actions have put everyone in. They are such lying criminal scumbags that any prudent person must disregard what the say first. Their ‘leadership’ also shows that when a real crisis emerges all they know to do is throw money around so they can skim it and say they did something.

I hope all Americans come out of this ready to absolutely CRUSH the politicians, bureaucrats and media psychos.

mark branham
mark branham
  Nobody
April 2, 2020 8:14 am

and by crush, you mean…

Nobody
Nobody
  mark branham
April 2, 2020 10:02 am

Grand jury indictments for treason, trial juries issuing death penalty and lawful execution of the criminal scumbags – preferably on live worldwide stream BOOM!!!

Polly Phenol
Polly Phenol
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 12:55 am

Ha ha ha ha. I post under many names. I am Lesion…sorry, Legion. Please allow me to intube myself, I’m a man of welts and waist.

I publish to my city newspaper all the time on the constitutional issues that no one seems to really care about in the middle of this shitstorm. You seem nice enough. A shame about your psychic abilities atrophying.

Just Sayin'
Just Sayin'
  Polly Phenol
April 2, 2020 6:38 am

Lookin’ like a ZH toll PP. You’re welcome to go back.

Just Sayin’

Maggie G
Maggie G
  Polly Phenol
April 2, 2020 9:03 am

Mygirl...maybe
  Polly Phenol
April 2, 2020 10:32 am

Lesion? Legion? You’re an idiot, a very stupid idiot who, tragically, believes the myth that you’re intelligent and clever. You publish to your newspaper that no one reads and you’re a legend in your tiny mind.

Maggie G
Maggie G
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 8:59 am

Listen… I know I gave you a hard time about trying to make waves here. I apologize.

There need to be a lot of waves here. Hurricane size.

Mygirl...maybe
  Maggie G
April 2, 2020 1:33 pm

Maggie:
Funny how that works, isn’t it? Lots of folk here so one hundred percent determined to believe that they have the absolute guaranteed proof that this is a hoax and because they are so boneheaded sure they are correct they are incapable of anything or any fact that argues to the contrary.

They can’t seem to understand that governments can and will take advantage of crises to push for the furtherance of agendas. Nope, it HAS to be that the virus is a hoax, that’s all their tiny minds can grasp. If a ‘big dog’ holds that belief then, by golly it is sacrosanct because they are big dogs. Lots of followers, seemingly incapable of not slavishly following a ‘leader’ commenting here. Lots of down votes if anyone dares challenge the narrative coming from them ‘big dogs’.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 1:41 pm

And yet you are fashioning a seat in an appeal to authority…

Mygirl...maybe
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 2:00 pm

That comment made no sense….explain

RiNS
RiNS
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 9:38 pm

Exactly

GrandPa
GrandPa
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 1:31 pm

So true. I pray for revolution, hopefully led by POTUS.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 6:58 pm

That reminds me… Where is good ole GAZ? Haven’t seen him around since his ONE post.

Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 7:35 pm

Yo, Anonymous dipshit, you still posting while hiding under your mama’s skirt? Chickenshits gonna chickenshit….

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Polly Phenol
April 1, 2020 10:45 pm

No, it’s respiratory, hence the no need for toilet paper.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  GAZ
April 1, 2020 10:43 pm

GAZ = a government troll. Go the fuck away. Other sites may accept your bullshit, but not around here asshole. Send me a drone, I got my shotgun ready.

Mygirl...maybe
  ILuvCO2
April 1, 2020 11:07 pm

Psst…that ‘government troll’ merely reposted an article that has been in circulation for awhile now…Please, prove that Gaz is a government troll….Here, I’ll let you in on the source of that article….

https://texags.com/forums/84/topics/3102444

Nobody
Nobody
  Mygirl...maybe
April 1, 2020 11:39 pm

Thank you for the link! That is the lead I have been looking for.

I am determined to get real info on allof this. Real, as in meets the rules for evidence of a court of law.

GAZ
GAZ
  Mygirl...maybe
April 1, 2020 11:58 pm

I have posted here many times, lately not so much. Instead of posting the link, I posted the text because it grabs your attention right away and lends itself to further investigation. I’m a retired cardiac RN. I used to work in what’s called a “cabbage patch” Cardiac Artery Bypass Graft clinic in a teaching hospital on the west coast. A cardiologist I worked with for many years sent me this. Many people here think this is over hyped and creating more damage than the disease, I don’t disagree, my problem is that there is no empathy from real experience knowledge for what’s going on in our hospitals. There is NO current proof that humans develop long term natural immunity to this virus, it could bi-phasic and go dormant and reappear later like chicken pox/shingles (hiding in nerve tissue). Vaccines? We better fucking hope so. My other problem is people throwing out the stats of the “normal” flu infecting and killing thousands more people than this virus….. as if those stats aren’t manipulated to benefit vaccine manufacturers and health Insurers No scare tactics there…right? Why hasn’t the “flu” filled up ER rooms before this? Because it’s not the flu, it’s SARS and we better all hope it’s not synthetic. Peace

Nobody
Nobody
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 12:10 am

Thanks GAZ. I am a healthy skeptic in that I just want the truth. I can make the best decisions with real, accurate info – neither of which gov or msm provide.

Thanks again.

Nobody
Nobody
  Nobody
April 2, 2020 10:25 am

Fyi, downvoters. I thank GAZ not because I agree or disagree. I am looking for real, verifiable information one way or the other – verifiable to the point of being traceable back to source (s) to a level of admissable in a court of law. Everyone should be seeking the same. If it’s real then we can be better prepared, if it’s not we can build criminal and civil cases to hold the conspirators accountable. Everyone should be trying to collect evidence. This shit may turn into the biggest class action lawsuit ever and could end up leading to REAL criminal indictments.

Get your gumshoes on everybody. Think like a criminal investigator, this is either dead serious criminal shit that everyone will get behind justice when truth comes out or it will be dead serious pandemic shit where real info will help protect you and your loved ones. This could be the greatest gift ever to restore liberty but you have to be worthy in your efforts to obtain that liberty.

Paulita Senorita
Paulita Senorita
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 9:08 am

another nurse

are you naughty 2

Paulita Senorita
Paulita Senorita
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 9:07 am

you know good and well the big dogs don’t have to prove shit here.

they throw darts and insults and call people liars but when challenged, they just say you are a hoot and hoard the presents

Mygirl...maybe
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 7:37 pm

Golly, it is now apparent that the down voters truly don’t want to hear any truth, they’re truly simpleminded….too bad, can’t fix stupid.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  ILuvCO2
April 1, 2020 11:23 pm

You sound like an angry female, Nuff said. Thank the Lord my wife is not one of those. I’m almost 60 so I need my sleep so I don’t catch this fakecoroneavirus bullshit. My neighbors have had fevers, OOOOOOOOOOh, they lived, This panic is such fucking bullsit!!@!

Mygirl...maybe
  ILuvCO2
April 1, 2020 11:29 pm

Your wife has my sympathies.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Mygirl...maybe
April 1, 2020 11:34 pm

I will pass your thoughts. After 35 years of marriage. You Go Girl…

Mygirl...maybe
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 12:55 am

Too bad you can’t think outside your little box. You are extraordinarily hard headed and determined to be right, regardless of facts. You believe the virus is a hoax. I have posted sites that prove otherwise. I daresay you would never admit to being wrong, that isn’t in your nature. Bombast and threats are more your hallmark. Your wife is a saint.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 6:18 am

Mygirl… nobody is saying the Virus isn’t real.. it is the immune response that is the Hoax.

Paulita Senorita
Paulita Senorita
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 9:10 am

lots of hoaxes and hoaxers

Mygirl...maybe
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 2:02 pm

Rins: That comment makes no sense….explain

RiNS
RiNS
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 9:41 pm

mygirl

The response is the troll..

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 9:31 pm

She is, thank you, And I love her, as well as my kids and dogs. And she believes as I do that this is contrived bullshit to take away our freedoms. God bless her.

Anonymous
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 11:25 pm

Too bad you don’t realize you lost your ‘freedoms’ many years ago and are just now beginning to feel that loss.

Paulita Senorita
Paulita Senorita
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 9:09 am

he is one of the main issues… stay on target

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 7:05 pm

I am beginning to believe that women and other hysterical lunatics should be banned from this forum.

Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 7:38 pm

Anonymous posters eat their boogers.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 9:33 pm

Boogers be important protein these days.

Anonymous
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 11:24 pm

You should know.

Mygirl...maybe
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 12:19 am

Here is the facebook page for the New Orleans MD who wrote the article on his treatments for and experiences with Covid 19. Keep saying this is fake….

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=2638055689810705&id=1998386763777604&sfnsn=mo

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 9:35 pm

ad naseum. this shit has been posted for days now and is not corroborated

Anonymous
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 11:26 pm

Did you even check the source or are you so full of yourself that you can’t even bother to check sources? I checked the source and it is legit. What is your problem?

Maggie G
Maggie G
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 9:04 am

comment image

We got more.

GAZ
GAZ
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 3:31 pm

To ILuv CO2
If you love CO2… why don’t you go drink a pint of Jack Daniels, get a plastic shopping bag, put it over your head and duck tape it around your neck and see how much you love Hypoxia.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 7:10 pm

GAZ the fake poster is back again? How come nobody has ever seen you and Mygirl…maybe in the same room?

Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 7:39 pm

MMMM, good salty booger, right Anonymous? Chickenshit gonna chicken shit….

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 9:20 pm

You want to suck my what, faggot???? You’d like to asphyxiate on my dick wouldn’t ya asshole. Ain’t gonna happen. My white Christian wife is all over that..

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 9:25 pm

I’m not going to say I didn’t laugh at that.

RiNS
RiNS
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 9:43 pm

don’t look at me either..

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 11:32 pm

I’ll take the Jack, dickwipe, now go scurry away.

Frankoliotis
Frankoliotis
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 2:02 pm

Pure propaganda. The words of a fool are many.

Mygirl...maybe
  Frankoliotis
April 2, 2020 3:31 pm

This just in….seems a railroad engineer just ran his train off the track in an attempt to hit the Mercy hospital ship docked in LA. Seems he wanted to warn the people about a government takeover and the virus. Apparently Eddie must’ve been reading articles like this one, it would explain his beliefs….
“KTLA.com reports that Moreno said he wanted to “wake people up” and hoped the derailment would get media attention so “people could see for themselves,” according to prosecutors.

The officer told investigators that when he spoke with Moreno, the suspect said things like, “You only get this chance once. The whole world is watching. I had to. People don’t know what’s going on here. Now they will.”

“As indicated by the family’s statement, the only defense is not to contest these elements but Moreno’s mental state. It seems rather that Moreno, 44, has a questionable mental state to put it mildly. He could not explain the basis of his suspicions or why he thought a hospital ship had some nefarious purpose. Prosecutors simply recounted that Moreno confessed (after he tried to flee the scene) and said that he “was suspicious of the Mercy and believing it had an alternate purpose related to COVID-19 or a government takeover.” He also later said that he wanted to “wake people up.”

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/eddies-not-us-time-engineer-intentionally-wrecks-train-attack-usns-mercy

Proudly Anonymous
Proudly Anonymous
  Mygirl...maybe
April 3, 2020 9:15 am

Mygirl – Why don’t you go hijack a train and you can run it off the tracks too… you know, to warn people of the dangers that only you can see. When they interview you on the tv, you can scream at the sky, pull out your hair and run around in circles. You’re not hysterical though!!!

Mister Anderson
Mister Anderson
  GAZ
April 3, 2020 9:12 pm

Watch this Video and you will NEVER be the same. Especially after you hear the name mentioned at the 19:30 mark

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 10:12 pm
RiNS
RiNS
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 7:36 am
Mygirl...maybe
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 2:23 pm

Some folks are just hard to kill…

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 9:25 pm

RINS, I thought you would have liked the punk rock. I’m disappointed in you

RiNS
RiNS
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 9:47 pm

lol

not too bad but I like old stuff way better,,

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 10:36 pm

I’ve posted this many times here, good one, Saw DK 3 times. Good times,

“You’ll work harder with a gun in your back for a bowl of ride a day”……..

RiNS
RiNS
  ILuvCO2
April 3, 2020 7:43 am

Those woulda been awesome concerts……

GAZ
GAZ
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 4:22 pm

To ILuv CO2
If you love CO2… why don’t you go drink a pint of Jack Daniels, get a plastic shopping bag, put it over your head and duck tape it around your neck. Hypoxia is the shit dude!

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 10:45 pm

Who is this new GAZ asshole?

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 10:28 pm

Now they do what they told ya. (your’re under control…………)

fuck you I won’t do what you tell me!!

Anonymous
  ILuvCO2
April 2, 2020 11:29 pm

You aren’t smart enough to understand what they tell you.

TS
TS
April 1, 2020 1:16 pm

It’s like we’re all screaming into a life-sucking void…

[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRo42JZdOWc&w=853&h=480%5D

Do you hear me, Do you care,
Do you hear me, Do you care
My lips are moving and the sound’s coming out
The words are audible but I have my doubts
That you realize what has been said

You look at me as if you’re in a daze
It’s like the feeling at the end of the page
when you realize you don’t know what you just read

What are words for when no one listens anymore
What are words for when no one listens
What are words for when no one listens it’s no use talkin’ at all

I might as well go up and talk to a wall
’cause all the words are having no effect at all
It’s a funny thing am I all alone
Something has to happen to change the direction
What little filters through is giving you the wrong impression
It’s a sorry state I say to myself

What are words for when no one listens anymore
What are words for when no one listens
What are words for when no one listens it’s no use talkin at all

Do you hear me, Do you care
Do you hear me, Do you care

Let me get by
Over your dead body
Hope to see you soon
When will I know
Doors three feet wide with no locks open
Walking always backwards in the faces of strangers
Time could be my friend
But it’s less than nowhere now
less than nowhere now
less than nowhere now, now, ow ow ow…

Pursue it further and another thing you’ll find
Not only are they deaf and dumb they could be going blind and no one notices
I think I’ll dye my hair blue

Media overload bombarding you with action
It’s getting near impossible to cause distraction
Someone answer me before I pull out the plug

What are words for when no one listens anymore…

Do you hear me
Do you care
Do you hear me
Do you care

gman
gman
  TS
April 1, 2020 1:28 pm

“Do you hear me
Do you care”

when asking that question, always start by asking it of yourself. do you hear them? do you care?

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  gman
April 1, 2020 2:17 pm

Why? How is it that I can’t be the center of my world but everybody else is or should be? What you propose is that everyone is the anti-center of themselves. In doing so, you teach people to abdicate themselves and starve their own potentials. You teach unavoidable misery. You are nothing in and of yourself. You need others to prop you up. Not once do you emphasize the idea of reciprocity. You are a cancer. You are a weakling who becomes strong on the wasted talents of others. Sad, that your good intellect is slave to such toadyish emotions. You have what you deserve. To be a man is it’s own permission. You emasculate your potential superiors out of fear. Shame.

gman
gman
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 2:50 pm

“Why?”

because other people exist …

“How is it that I can’t be the center of my world but everybody else is or should be?”

… and where possible we all need to exist together …

“What you propose is that everyone is the anti-center of themselves.”

… and other people’s existence does not negate yours, nor yours theirs. that is simply a presumption on your part – “it’s me or you”. no, it’s not – unless one insists upon it, in which case there is no answer but to respond in kind. which is why everyone responds in kind to you.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 3:10 pm

Is that you Ayn? I thought you were dead.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  flash
April 1, 2020 3:39 pm

Her dick is bigger and more functional than yours, finished in a flash gone by.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 3:51 pm

ha ha ha… the old hook nosed witch got you too, didn’t she uber man. You’ll suck on any slimy turd that promises you power, fame and fortune . You are the typical whore. No worse no better. That said . Do you charge by the hour or the day ?

“He promises you illumination, he offers you knowledge, science, philosophy, enlargement of mind. He scoffs at times gone by; he scoffs at every institution which reveres them. He prompts you what to say, and then listens to you, and praises you, and encourages you. He bids you mount aloft. He shows you how to become as gods. Then he laughs and jokes with you, and gets intimate with you; he takes your hand, and gets his fingers between yours, and grasps them, and then you are his.”
J.H. Newman

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 4:19 pm

BTW, I gave you a thumbs up on the comment. I liked the rhetoric.

RiNS
RiNS
  TS
April 1, 2020 1:30 pm
messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  TS
April 1, 2020 8:00 pm

Sounds like someone when the Tower of Babel was interrupted.

Maggie G
Maggie G
  TS
April 2, 2020 9:18 am

I hear you, “sister.”

comment image

Yes, those are a bobble-head bride and groom and an opossum in a rocking chair.

Mind your own Biscuits. If you know how to fucking make them.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 1, 2020 1:23 pm

I’m homeless in the bay area, and I can tell ya, nobody cares if you congregate near grocery stores in the name of almighty consumption. But I made the mistake of parking in a church overnight while passing thru town… I received a lovely visit from some detectives jus doin their job. I, however, was not the jedi they were looking for… 😉

The other night I was chillin outside the local mickeydees drinkin some beers and havin a rollicking time imagining the impending military lockdown, while listening the to the ramones. Perfect soundtrack.

When, midway thru a sip, I nearly spilled my beer as I see a giant shadow slowly creep up from behind the grocery store in front of me. Sh!t! Cops!! Hide the beer!

As the huge shark-shadow emerged, I noticed the headlights were really high off the ground. It was an army truck! I know they saw me hysterically panic-laugh as they drove by. They had one of them lil side-by-side, go-karts-on-steroids loaded on the back. Man I wished that fucker was parked. Woulda been the most epic joyride.

Anyway, theyre avoiding the main streets and intersections. Quietly building up. If I wanted to impose a martial lockdown perhaps with a side of military coup… This is exactly how I’d do it! While everyone is isolated, decentralized, and unable to organize.

Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
April 1, 2020 11:10 pm

So, ol’ homeless Anonymous, do you live in a tent or your car or do you sleep rough?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl...maybe
April 1, 2020 11:35 pm

Car for the next maybe 48 hours or so bebby. Then its back under the redwoods permanently, far from civilization while the shitshow implodes. Stock up on tampons lolol have fun widdat

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mygirl...maybe
April 1, 2020 11:40 pm

Not all homeless are greasy old men yknow. Some of us are greasy young men. Men you’d definitely cream your lil panties for lol I love reading the body language of sexy high maintenance blondie suburbanites when they realize I’m homeless and they hate themselves for creepin on a homeless guy hahah. Think more suntanned surf nazi and less vietnam vet alkie…

Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 1:00 am

I know people who are ‘homeless’ by choice. Perhaps some of the freest folk out there, tied to nothing, owned by no one and free to roam. Greasy is unattractive in anyone, homeless or otherwise.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 1, 2020 1:25 pm

Great article, again.

Hot of the press:

TV reality star, and dictator of NY stated publicly today:
“there is only a 20% chance of recovery, once put on a ventilator for Covid-19”

So, with those odds, the only reason to be on a ventilator, is extract the wealth of the patient and his insurance policy, while adding a little misery.

here is another easy fact to look up, and wrap your mind around:

US 2018 – 80,000 deaths due to H1N1 virus (aka the flu)
US 2019 – 19,000 deaths due to H1N1 virus (aka the flu)
US 2020 – 4,395 deaths due to Covid-19 (aka Chinese Flu)

no emergency in 2018, but, then again, there was no problems with the price of oil, which is what backs the US dollar.

We are being duped by a world wide cabal, who are trying to cover up the fact that the entire monetary system has frozen, again, only this time, they would like us to not only bail them out, but, also, give up all of your freedoms, for the continued illusion of the status quo.

RiNS
RiNS
  Anonymous
April 1, 2020 1:59 pm

With the collapse of price in Oil all those dollars sloshing around have to go somewhere…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 4:11 pm

True.

900 Americans allegedly died of Covid-19 yesterday, the worst day since the first case on Jan 21. So, two months.

6,500 Americans died every day for the past 3 weeks, at least, from ‘normal’ Flu and Pneumonia.

Not sure what the claimed doubling time for Covid-19 is, but ‘confirmed cases’ seems to now double every week. In 3 weeks Covid-19 deaths will match flu deaths.

Mygirl...maybe
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 7:42 pm

So, Anonymous, you have proof or you just typing the usual chickenshit?

csschenck
csschenck
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 7:57 pm

Stats can be found on the CDC website. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
Scroll down to the Pneumonia and Influenza (P&I) Mortality Surveillance & click on ‘View Chart Data’. That gives you a spreadsheet with weekly deaths going back to 2013.

Anonymous
  csschenck
April 2, 2020 11:31 pm

The same CDC website that fudged flu deaths to push the vaccine?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 11:55 pm

why ya hiding mygirl. cant take the heat anymore. are you scared? Hiding like the little bitch you are…. Typical

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 3, 2020 4:00 pm

The very same. And csschenck is exactly right as to where I got the flu info.

chickenshit
chickenshit
  Mygirl...maybe
April 3, 2020 4:04 pm

Not to worry … with a current doubling time of a week, you, me, and every human on the planet will be dead in July.

If it is three or four days, we’ll all be dead much sooner.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  chickenshit
April 4, 2020 3:32 am

How many cases of flu caused pneumonia are being attributed to Covid19?
If a young otherwise healthy person can either die or remain symptomless the entire time, how do we know that elderly are not the same?
Testing positive for Covid and dying now is called dying of Covid.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
April 4, 2020 3:47 pm

That’s wrong. https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/fluview/mortality.html
Forty to fifty thousand per week is how many died from ALL causes in the country. The number for influenza and pneumonia was about 3000/week. It works out to 454/day on average not 6500 as you claim.

gman
gman
April 1, 2020 1:26 pm

“Even now, all across America… bars, restaurants, and small businesses are shuttered as no more than 10 people are allowed to gather together at any given time. But, American’s First Amendment Right to Free Assembly remains viable at Wal-Mart. No problem there.”

the fact of the matter is that no matter what they did or didn’t do, there are some who will say it’s all a conspiracy and a plot. accusations of “they acted too soon!” and “they acted too late!” and “they’re restricting too many!” and “they’re not restricting enough!”, get thrown around as needed, accompanied by the constant refrain is that everyone else is obviously stupid and evil.

Uncola
  gman
April 1, 2020 2:02 pm

Sometimes blogging might be compared to playing a role and quite often the role is that of the Wild-eyed Cynic. Otherwise, without that energy, the hard questions might remain unasked, people might not be challenged to think for themselves, and any debate may not occur – even within our own little circle over here.

Therefore, with that in mind: Is it a “conspiracy and a plot” when it’s published by the players for all to see?

Note that the World Economic Forum co-sponsored the Event 201 exercise along with the Gates Foundation & John Hopkins:

Event 201

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.

Even on the Event 201 website the “prominent individuals from global business, government, and public health” who participated were identified as “players” which, to me, is just another way of saying “practicing for the real thing”.

And now this:

World Economic Forum Ramps Up “Known Traveler Digital Identity”

KTDI is a “surveillance-by-design” vision for tracking and control of travelers more dystopian than anything we have seen before.

KTDI would use a blockchain-based distributed ledger to bind together, through an app on a traveler’s mobile device, all of the following data:

• Biometrics (initially facial images, possibly also fingerprints, etc.)
• Government-issued ID credentials (passport number, etc.)
• Travel history including logs of border crossings, hotel stays, and possibly also car rentals and/or other events
• Purchase logs and possibly bank account information and/or other financial and transaction records
• Pre-crime predictive “risk assessment” and profiling scores generated at each “intervention” point before and during each trip or transaction

Wow. That happened quickly. Coincidence or conspiracy? You’re right.

gman
gman
  Uncola
April 1, 2020 2:40 pm

“Coincidence or conspiracy? You’re right.”

they seem not to care either way, they’re just emoting. if you point out facts and agree with them they say you’re wise and good, and if you point out facts and disagree with them they say you’re just stupid and evil. facts just seem to play no role at all, they have their dream world and they stick to it.

flash
flash
  Uncola
April 1, 2020 5:05 pm

Who was Bill Gates Before Microsoft?

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  flash
April 2, 2020 5:20 am

Good little video, Flash….a quick look at where/who he came from. This article pops up as trending when I got back from my little stroll:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=bill%20gates%20nationwide%20shutdown&qs=n&sk=&form=BDSDPN&pc=BDT5&shash=&BDParam=0000&mkt=en-US

https://www.forbes.com/sites/isabeltogoh/2020/04/01/recipe-for-disaster-bill-gates-urges-nationwide-shutdown-to-combat-us-coronavirus-crisis/#60ba635f1330

From the forbes article:

He also described a vaccine as being “half the battle”, and that facilities to manufacture the “billions” of doses needed to protect the world’s population, need to be built. He praised the administration for signing recent deals with at least two companies, which includes Johnson & Johnson’s pharmaceuticals arm.

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——== 'he praised the administration'

when it comes to looking out for our safety and well being… it's good to see the demonrats and republicants are working like a well oil machine again.

Paulita Senorita
Paulita Senorita
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 9:22 am
Mygirl...maybe
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 2:11 pm

So, according to your hypothesis this virus is a creation, loosed on society to further those nefarious goals, those totalitarian goals of those ‘players’ and destroying the economy is part and parcel of the plan. Coincidence or conspiracy? Truth or fiction? Nice how you can cover all possible contingencies with that simple caveat.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mygirl...maybe
April 2, 2020 2:27 pm

the virus is a creation, it is God’s creation, whether it is by his hand or by some Lab in Wuhan or Winnipeg neither you or anyone else knows. And as for covering for all all possible contingencies your questions are doing the exact same thing…

Mygirl...maybe
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 4:14 pm

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RiNS
RiNS
April 1, 2020 1:56 pm

Speaking of April Fools..

ALERT! SEC Gives Corporations a 45 Day “FREE PASS” on Earning Reporting!!

This is beginning to look more and more like an attempted Coup d’etat…

Notice how this fellow below is being framed as The Competing Saviour…

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 2:25 pm

I think it is very important to allow for the tail wagging the dog. The perennial elites in charge over the generations control boundary conditions but not necessarily the public response. They control public focus but not exact behavior. The domesticated public wants and needs a savior. Joe Biden is not looking viable. Cuomo is making the most of this situation. The real law is often herd law. The ultimate enemy is the herd in good social standing. They are a plague of locusts.

RiNS
RiNS
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 3:20 pm

They’re a plague alright! Even thought the plan was all laid out in V for Vendetta, I am still surprised at how easily our freedom is set aside for their safety and riches.

Game Theory ensures the Herd’s enslavement with the Crocodiles in control rigging the field being trampled upon in a zero sum game…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAWl4w1f38

We’ll just have to wait and see how this plays out….

Right now everything is under water!

SeeBee
SeeBee
  RiNS
April 2, 2020 5:39 am

That was riveting. And I really, really wanted the Impala to pop its head up and swim to shore. I can’t believe I’m still a freakin’ Optimist.

RiNS
RiNS
  SeeBee
April 2, 2020 6:34 am

Yeah SB I watched it and had same thought. That scene is a perfect metaphor for what has taken place…

The Impala = The Populace
The Croc = The Banks
The Hippos = The “Patriots”
The Guy in Jeep = The MSM
.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  SeeBee
April 2, 2020 9:49 am

To me, it appeared the best course of action for the Impala would have been to get a running start from right to left and leap toward the shore while the croc was on the far RH side of the island.

RiNS
RiNS
  TN Patriot
April 2, 2020 10:09 am

The Impala likely was a Lefty and couldn’t help himself….

Balance of Probabilities in that end sum game..

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  TN Patriot
April 2, 2020 12:16 pm

I noticed that too. We don’t know the history, but the narrator said something like the impala could have been chased there. The predators that started the scenario could have been on that side in sight or just memory. The impala certainly had a favorite shore in mind. Luring the croc to the other side would have been optimal. Maybe using it’s hooves on the island would have been a better strategy. We can’t expect too much game theory from an impala, but clearly it wanted the right shore.

flash
flash
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 3:15 pm

Governor Nipple Ring prolly’ wearing a buttplug too.

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RiNS
RiNS
  flash
April 1, 2020 3:39 pm

That’s nasty!

flash
flash
  RiNS
April 1, 2020 3:53 pm

More nasty here.

PHOTOS: Does Governor Andrew Cuomo Have Pierced Nipples?

https://heavy.com/news/2020/03/governor-andrew-cuomo-pierced-nipples/

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  flash
April 1, 2020 4:03 pm

The perversion does not run deep into the system. It is the system.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 4:20 pm

+1000 RD. You have your moments…

BTW, it’s called the Beast System for a reason.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 2:03 pm

“Oh, NOW France closes its borders #Hollande” —Rob Lowe

“One drama unfolds, after another, after another until, today, even the compassion and civility of the American people has been weaponized into six-feet of separation.” —Uncola in OP

Dear Cucks,

There has been compassion since the Abolitionist movement in the 1830s. At some point from then to the Civil Rights movement, white Christian sympathy was dysgenic and organically wrong. The rule of Gospel compassion has been a cudgel hitting white male Christian Americans on the head since before the War Between the States. You know my message by now, so I spare you, except: “Onward Christian soldiers__”.

I will note in reference to a different recent post in these parts that informants can be dealt with if one has nothing left to loose. That video of the woman in the green shirt, that is straight-up female herding instincts. That is the unadulterated face of woman. That is the woman’s soul as understood by Red Pill evolutionary psychology. If you think that is unusual in a woman, you are a fool. Woman tears down others to build herself up. Remember this: A woman’s authority can do no wrong. You are not her authority. Men have historically been patriarchs out of necessity. The only other winning alternative is the pump and dump. Ownership of women by husbands and fathers is righteous.

Saul Alinsky is the domestic you know what, but winning conflict comes down to superlative violence, and you cucks have given it up! You have said innumerable times “Thank you for your service, which translates to “I accept your herd leadership, my master.” You have proudly worn your “I voted” stickers. You will continue to do so. As a ruse, it’s now a good idea as before, going along to get along, but those of you who do not do it that way consciously with animus in your hearts, you are natural herd animals who require a shepherd. You are the sow’s ear.

You require a mythos of lies. The meme in the OP of “Eight Levels of Control” by Saul Alinsky is a lie. It is more Christian polemics. The same sort of lies were said about Muhammad and Islam. The best I can hope for is that you are right for the wrong reasons. You are over-emotionalized, and by attenuated indirection, over-intellectualized. These backward rationalized narrative abstractions are a distraction from you humanity, if you have any. The bottom line is to win or lose. This is a win-lose life-or-death struggle at glacial speed annotated with alligator bursts, and eventually the glacier gets to the end, your narrative’s end. You have already proven yourselves by letting the enemy’s advance get this far with arms still wide open, with deference to women, with deference to non-whites, and deference to whites who are garbage. No inveterately traitorous white child shall be left behind! All that matters is that you and your mighty herd have a mighty, inflexible narrative that LIVES!

To love is to hate in this life. To love anything requires hatred of what seeks to destroy it, except Satan, or not. Who knows what the hell you Christians believe? I believe you don’t know what you believe. You just align yourselves like a woman in the moment. There is a bill of hate that has come due.

You will pay from the store of your life or you will extract payment to pay, but hate rules the organic when resources are limited, even gleefully used against you. Loving subhumans to the point of propping them up like Travis the Chimp requires a collapse of living standards and death. Muh colligg dugree!

You will soon be at blissful peace, a peace well earned. You have served your narrative master without fail. You are immaculate!

Righteous hate is a prerequisite of the survivors of this transition. I share that wisdom for any young man who might read this and take back his mind before the planted inhibitions he unwittingly cultivates gets him easily killed. The Law of the Jungle will not be denied. Lying in wait is not denial. Too bad the mentoring aspects of fatherhood have been destroyed, i.e. culture, real culture not found in muh bible. Mother nature will test first and teach the survivors in hindsight. It’s oft better to be lucky than good, but in the long run good beats lucky. This is not undeserved. This is not unlucky. I was the fool’s fool. There are so many of you, armed with your endless prattle and documentation of proofs that signify nothing but relentless obedience to a narrative that, thank God, will not be viable for very much longer. I bid you early adieu and salute you.

Uncola
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 2:26 pm

Whoa. RD did you write that? Or was it posted somewhere else? Just curious.

Also, regarding the “socialist state 8-levels of control” – it was just a photo on the net included to make a point, provoke thought, and generate discussion. Your “Truth or Fiction” link says it’s a lie only when referenced to Obama. I did not reference Obama. The link you posted also says ““We have not determined that Alinsky wrote the ‘Levels of Control'”. But I’m here to tell you: If it’s on the internet, it must be true.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Uncola
April 1, 2020 3:17 pm

Of course I wrote it. It’s offensive by shreds of merit, typical from me. I am saying the eight levels are a lie. The source says: ‘We have not determined that Alinsky wrote the “8 Levels of Control”.’ I think it’s important to call it a lie as part of a general rule. How many lies have stood because we could not prove 100% they were lies. The cost of a universal search to prove the absence of something is impossibly expensive. For me no source equals lie. The Web is very mature and has lotta stuff. The seventh ‘level’ is obviously a call to the autoimmune herd response, which would make it emotionally engaging. I doubt Saul Alinski would put it like that. A Christian polemicist obviously would. I think we have enough facts and have reached whatever verdicts we choose to reach. Maybe a few young men of intellectual integrity and sufficient abuse and ostracization will heed my words. If not that, I like others and possibly you hope our words will be digitally unearthed by humans worthy of civilization. We don’t want our expensive lessons to be for naught. And what else ya gonna do on lockdown not martial law?

TPTB can do anything now. Trump told us at his crowning that no one knows the system better than he does. Trump knows A/B testing. He has flirted with the edge of support on the immigration issue twice by my reckoning, once during his 2016 campaign and once when he unfollowed Ann Coulter on twatter. I am afraid he will find the edge of tolerance of the American public and make the most of it. However, I have learned that if instead I count on vermin to be vermin, and I mean the rank and file more than the leaders we deserve, I have precognition. I wish my parents had not instilled into me neurotic dependence on the opposite assumption, that people are basically good and I must assume good will and cooperation unless being physically assaulted. Of course I lost at life. Sun Tzu is a mindset, not much of a strategy. His book could be condensed into a paragraph without loss of content: Don’t be artless in an artful world, be the most artful.

At some point, the useful idiots will become a liability to the Establishment. The Left will be literally killed (a night of long knives), but perhaps the snowflake mentality is so ingrained that their control will break down. It’s not easy making civilization from the uncivilized. Designing a bomb to yield efficiently is tricky business. There is nothing surgical and patient about the common savage, and the surgical wiles of the liberated woman are instinctively non-negotiable. She is a freelance assistant. Social engineers can use entropy to cut pre-existing order, but to create their order they must create something. These innumerable snowflakes will have tantrums. Gilets Jaunes won nothing, but there will be a round of tantrums in the US. Probably won’t amount to anything because the premise left and right is daddy government will save me. Will our snowflakes prove more destructive to daddy than those in La France? I doubt it, but who knows? This is ground zero of clown world. Everything is bigger in Texas, and maybe continental USA too. What I find interesting is the lack of violence. Where is the next mass shooting? (rhetorical) Which ingredient or ingredients will direct the traffic of our history? We can only rely on ourselves to fight for ourselves because hope is not a strategy. Meanwhile, I write too much.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 3:55 pm

No one’s going to read all that nonsensical gibberish.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  flash
April 1, 2020 4:04 pm

I don’t blame no one. I would not read it either. We all cope in our own ways. If you challenge the Establishment half as well as you challenge me, our victory is assured.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 4:22 pm

I did, but mostly lost and paid a heft price. Hopefully I’ll get a second wind one day .

FWIW, I read it and found it interesting, but wrong. Pragmatism always rules the day . In the end , the most powerful tribe wins and in the USA that tribe is based on Christianity. Don’t discount the motivating factor of Christians suffering attack. Many did and paid the price of extinction. Tribe up or die.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 4:40 pm

I find your writing style compelling reading.

FWIW

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  hardscrabble farmer
April 1, 2020 5:33 pm

Thank you, HSF. And flash. Interesting times.

Uncola
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 4:05 pm

If not that, I like others and possibly you hope our words will be digitally unearthed by humans worthy of civilization.

I believe it was Hardscrabble Farmer who once said “the internet is forever”.

Meanwhile, I write too much.

Glad you did

gman
gman
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 2:29 pm

“winning conflict comes down to superlative violence”

if “conflict” means “opposition to anything that is not me” then there’s no future in that.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 3:25 pm

Hey RD, buddy. I really appreciate your concise insight on almost every article. I genuinely value your opinions.

But don’t get so down on yourself man. People are lame, haters gonna hate. Stick to commentary about the relevant issues big dawg.

Never did see a wild critter feelin sorry for itself…

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 3:34 pm

Christianity is older than your shallow hyperbolic narrative. Men grow soft in times of plenty and hard in times of want. The same with their faith. As history attests and muslims and pagans learned the hard way. Christians will fight and win. Due the lack of modern due diligence by the Christian community, losses will be high , but win we will . With God on our side , we can do nothing other.

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'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  flash
April 1, 2020 4:15 pm

Philosophy is older (and wiser) than Christianity. It is about as old as the oldest books of the Jewish Bible. The laws of nature are as old as the universe. You know nothing but what you are told in a tale.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 4:34 pm

Philosophy is mostly empty rhetoric . No nation ever based and entire legal system on it. Christianity is a code with which we can live by. Philosophy is do what thy will is the whole of the law. Individual vs Collective ? Who will win?

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  flash
April 1, 2020 6:42 pm

” Charlemagne respected advanced learning and was quick to recognize and value its worth. When he was 39 and met Alcuin, he invited him to become his teacher. Charlemagne’s personal study of philosophy proved so valuable to him that he commanded all clerics to become literate and thus began the spread of learning that resulted in today’s great European universities.”

Source: “Charlemagne’s Works, Western Europe” webpage, University of Massachusetts Boston portal.

The deep Dark Ages were Christian. It would appear that your hero Charlemagne raised up Western Civilization with philosophy. Charlemagne raised up Christianity, but what raised up Christianity? Greek philosophy was used for rhetoric, for apologetics. Philosophy does not need Christianity to be convincing. It is Christian theology that is needy. This introduction of philosophy led to a rebirth of Christianity as a stage of growth for the ultimate recrudescence of Greek philosophy, to wit, the Enlightenment. Modernity is the practice of the Enlightenment, or was. We are post-modern in function now. The new thing is not yet known or named, but modernity as the measure of all things shall pass. Philosophy will continue anywhere man is above the slime.

“Scholasticism is best known for its application in medieval Christian theology, especially in attempts to reconcile the philosophy of the ancient classical philosophers (particularly Aristotle) with Christian theology. However, in the High Scholastic period of the 14th Century, it moved beyond theology, and had applications in many other fields of study including Epistemology, Philosophy of Science, philosophy of nature, psychology and even economic theory.”

Source: https://www.philosophybasics.com/movements_scholasticism.html

Flash, you would dehumanize me into a cell of your universal Christian body. Life is an ecology. I want an ecosystem of life and death, the way to true life on earth. You want stagnation and death. By forcing everyone into a harmonious whole you have destroyed human potential. We are organic. The Tree of Liberty thrives on the manure of defeated humans. As your Bible says, many are called, few are chosen, the gnashing of teeth, the eternal flames of hell. But God loves me. I spit on all calls for universal safety. There is no faster way to admix evil with good. The god of nature is so cruel I would call that god contemptible.

gman
gman
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 7:35 pm

“you would dehumanize me into a cell of your universal Christian body”

more accurately, to get you to see that you are one of god’s creations, one of many who are all equal before god, and thus become fully human.

“I want an ecosystem of life and death, the way to true life on earth. You want stagnation and death.”

the “ecosystem of life and death” results in death for all, winners and losers.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 2, 2020 7:54 am

Again, your narrative is shallow, selective and wrong. The history of Christian suffering, deliverance and victory does not begin and end with Charlemagne’s victory or any secular philosophy real or imagined. It is vast and glorious and while now wanes, it is in no, way, shape or fashion defeated.

As long as you hinge your faith in humanity on a strong man and not God, you will be disappointed and depressed. Man is a fallen creature and no imaginary uber man rhetoric can change that.

While useful knowledge can be gleaned from philosophy ( e.g stoicism and Aristotle ) it in no way transcends the all mighty power of the word of God, the ultimate philosophy has and will continue to stand the test of time.

The very fact that you crave power and dominion over others is entirely indicative of your character and mindset. You’re no different than the current powers that be you critique . You both desire the same thing, power, pleasure and control, at the expense of someone else’s freedom. This is why civilized society cannot exist without the rules set forth by God. Power mongering despots always seek to steal and destroy what decent law abiding productive people create. You seek a society built on the whims and wants of man. As history attests, selfish desires such as yours are always destined for failure . The unity of a suffering Christian people will always prevail. If you really were a student of history, you would have realized this truism by now, but apparently, as Aristotle noted, you are not a learning animal.

“Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.”

Aristotle

After having discarded fear, let every man boldly confront the enemies of the holy faith and the invaders of all territories. Wherever your ancestors sent the folk, prepared for battle, they always emerged victorious. No other folk ever conquered them. We’ve never heard they returned home without the glory of victory after all. We want to fully acknowledge the Christian charity of all of you, because those who die in this war will decidly be given the kingdom of heaven. The almighty undeniably knows that whoever of you shall die, shall die for the truth of the faith, for the preservation of the country and in the defence of the Christians. Hence the aforementioned reward shall be his.
— Pope Leo IV, Epistola ad excercitum Francorum (letter to the Frankish army, ca. 850)

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'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  flash
April 2, 2020 12:34 pm

I could not read all the way through. Your axiomatic framework is incompatible with mine. Fallen man is bullshit IMO. The West was stronger just before Christianity became orthodox and just after the West stopped being orthodox. Those are the two great peaks of Western civilization. Christianity owns the middle-of-no-where ages, and you want me to believe you are the practical one. There are other arenas of the mind, flash. The prizes to be won here are small. We do this to cope. We need not take it too seriously as a commune or community. The impala truth is for the impala and the crocodile truth is for the crocodile. I have hit bottom with the emotions of the impala. Adapt or die. I’m cool with you keeping your faith, flash. Narrative is life. You are the impala the makes (((Jesus))) a hero.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  flash
April 1, 2020 7:55 pm

Philosophy is the search for truth.

Maybe it is empty rhetoric, but it doesn’t feel that way.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  hardscrabble farmer
April 1, 2020 10:42 pm

CORRECT! Philosophy is primarily mental process/method. The artifacts of philosophy are easily made ideology. The normies do that. Philosophy has been so bastardized. I think that our masters know that philosophy would be our way out. The dumbasses have made every philosopher since Jesus a damned humanist. Total bullshit. Philosophy is to ideology like reading is to TV.

flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 2, 2020 8:18 am

A belief beyond courage to act or the wisdom to not is merely that . Philosophy can give you neither.It can only light the way. True strength comes from believing in something higher than yourself.

flash
flash
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 8:13 am

Yes, indeed , but it takes a wise humble man to discern truth from fantasy.

“Reason is itself a matter of faith. It is an act of faith to assert that our thoughts have any relation to reality at all.”
― G.K. Chesterton, Orthodoxy

Human history is the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy. C. S. Lewis

“Simplicity, patience, compassion.
These three are your greatest treasures.
Simple in actions and thoughts, you return to the source of being.
Patient with both friends and enemies,
you accord with the way things are.
Compassionate toward yourself,
you reconcile all beings in the world.”
― Lao Tzu, Tao Te Ching

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hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  flash
April 2, 2020 8:48 am

Great quote.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 8:29 pm

Ancient philosophers who practiced pedastry were part of the order of chaos.

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  Anonymous
April 1, 2020 10:45 pm

Don’t you mean pedophiles were pedophiles? Yah, all philosophers are pedophiles. You talk shit. It’s called libel, and it’s dishonest debate.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  flash
April 1, 2020 9:46 pm

Where is Stucky’s avatar when we need it?

flash
flash
April 1, 2020 3:07 pm

All the numbers and all the news concerning corona virus is as fake as Trump’s conservatism .

Doctor!! DOCTOR!!! You NEED to See This..!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39S1kf2Jgrc

'Reality' Doug
'Reality' Doug
  flash
April 1, 2020 4:22 pm
flash
flash
  'Reality' Doug
April 1, 2020 5:12 pm

It is hard for me, even now, to wrap my mind around an America that elected for this faggot fool nobody for POTUS. Who are we ? Not a nation, but a amalgamate of self-serving opportunists seeking everything from free shit to power . This will not hold.

Uncola
  flash
April 1, 2020 5:30 pm

RE: Flash’s video

Watched the whole thing. I mean literally watched because this is not a video one can let play while doing other things. Although I haven’t taken time to vet the YouTube video poster’s claimed credentials, it does appear he has a professional understanding of mapping software? He also cites data that he was able to access and, if true, makes a case that COVID-19 data may be compiled from other diseases (including deaths from flu)?

Regardless, I would like to see many of those questions asked of Dr. Anthony Fauci and I found the televised statements of other world leaders (beginning at the 15:50 mark) fascinating in how dismissive they were (are still?) of COVID-19.

Maybe they know something we don’t. Because it’s hard to find truth in a bubble – which is basically what America has become – an electronic bubble full of colorful programming and strategic deception.

Bob P
Bob P
April 1, 2020 3:08 pm

In the UK, the clowns who started the panic there and here, with a paper saying half a million would perish in the UK and millions in the US, last week lowered their estimate to 20,000, and this week lowered their estimate to 5700. Knowing the original estimates were sheer bullshit, the UK quietly removed Covid-19 from the serious disease category. I say quietly because I saw no coverage of this on any MSM outlet. Why? Do they want the panic?

“As of 19 March 2020, COVID-19 is no longer considered to be a high consequence infectious disease (HCID) in the UK.”

https://www.activistpost.com/2020/03/covid-19-decommissioned-by-uk-health-authorities.html

Uncola
  Bob P
April 1, 2020 4:16 pm

Since I was writing last night, I never read LR. But a reader posted this on my blog today. Now placing here for posterity. COVID-19 really does present like a lose-lose-lose proposition. Infection or starvation or vaccination? Like Jack Nicholsen said in “The Departed”: When staring down the barrel of gun, what’s the difference?

The Biggest Fraud in History is Happening Right Before Our Eyes

Fear and panic have driven this monstrous response, and although government and the mainstream media knowingly fed this fear from all angles, the people at large accepted the fraud hook, line, and sinker. As I have mentioned many times previously, the death toll from the state response of shutting down the country, isolating people and families, forcing those most at risk into seclusion which is the equivalent to a death penalty, and destroying the economic activity that sustains the lives of all will certainly be responsible for many more deaths than the so-called threat of any virus. The toll on Americans from this madness perpetrated by government will be the real pandemic, and one that will continue for years to come.

flash
flash
  Uncola
April 1, 2020 5:21 pm

The truly scary question , especially now that their “death by corona ” models are imploding, is to what lengths will this special interest group go to perpetuate the great hoax. Never under estimate a determined government with an sick and twisted agenda.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 1, 2020 4:18 pm

Doug, if we are in the middle of a Fourth Turning, or a no name generational reset, doesn’t it seem then the sixty or so prior years were a build-up or a staging for what is currently happening? Learned behaviors? Sixty years of choices, some good, most not all leading to where we are today. Stupidity knows no bounds. Hanlon’s razor is comforting, even though the outcome will be the same.

Robert Gore
April 1, 2020 4:30 pm

Nice to read a kindred spirit. Great article.

Uncola
  Robert Gore
April 1, 2020 5:40 pm

Thanks, Robert. I appreciate it

Bob P
Bob P
April 1, 2020 5:31 pm

These videos are starting to pop up all over the internet. Citizen journalists going to local hospital ERs and finding them empty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=780&v=5pIMD1enwd4&feature=emb_logo

Uncola
  Bob P
April 1, 2020 6:11 pm

I’m hesitant to share this because I can’t document it, but I swear it’s true:

Two nights ago, I read an online article in a local paper telling of a 60+ year old gentleman in my area who died from COVID-19. In the article, it described how the man had retired in the last year because of cancer.

But, then, last night, my wife asked me if I had read the article and when I told her that I had, she said: “Scary, huh? He was healthy.”

I said:”What do you mean? He had underlying issues“.

And when we logged back on to read the article, it was tagged as “updated 7 hours ago” and words that I’d read the night before were…. gone. In the paragraph where it said he retired, it mentioned nothing of his cancer and instead said how the guy was “active and enjoyed riding his bike”.

I will say that even I have a hard time believing that any conspiratorial pressure could be applied to my local paper; and my intention is to track down the reporter at some point to ask why the story was changed. Perhaps the family requested it. I don’t know.

But I do know what I read. And, now, I wish I’d have taken a screenshot or printed the article.

Ginger
Ginger
  Uncola
April 1, 2020 6:40 pm

Have been reading Ray Bradbury’s FAHRENHEIT 451, had just come across it in a 25 cent bin at the local library. In it just read the part about the Hound chasing Guy Montag, it being broadcast live time on TV. Anyway Montag slips away by disguising his scent and jumping in the river.
What is interesting is that after coming across some “tramps”, they watch on a portable the Hound corner a person and kill them, with the TV broadcasting it all live and announcing that now the murderer is dead. Justice wins again, the State is victorious.
It is explained to Montag, who is bewildered, that the attention span was waning, the State had most likely just picked someone that they had been watching for quite awhile that normally went for a walk that time of day, and had just allowed the Hound to kill him, passing him off as Montag.
Present history is being written and then tweaked and re-written right in front of our eyes, sometimes before the print is even dry. Don’t forget that Clapper, Brennan, and Comey still walk free.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Ginger
April 1, 2020 9:55 pm

Won’t happen again, they will track you with an armed drone.

chickenshit
chickenshit
  ILuvCO2
April 3, 2020 4:59 pm

Different “hound” same story.

ILuvCO2
ILuvCO2
  Uncola
April 1, 2020 9:54 pm

Let’s clean up the history Stazi style, eh???

chickenshit
chickenshit
  Uncola
April 3, 2020 4:56 pm

I’ve been taking screenshots of everything that might be important with regard to the virus, both info that supports my view and things that contradict it. Never really done that before.
Lots of things being deleted of “edited” lately.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Bob P
April 1, 2020 6:14 pm

At worst the Kung flu is just a bad flu. I don’t believe anything from MSM.

niebo
niebo
April 1, 2020 6:19 pm

“Here is our detailed documentation of where the WHO’s data is sourced from and how we corrected its data – we also provide several options to download all corrected data there. As of March 18 we no longer maintain this database for the reason that the WHO data can not be used for reliable time-series information.”

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#our-data-sources

It’s all a psyop. The cure is worse than the disease. The crash of the economy is assured, unfolding before us, as the food supply chain disintegrates at the same time and NOT A WORD from the same media who fabricates, manipulates, and lies about everything about everything.

THEY better hope they are right that starving people will be easy to control. I’ve always heard that starving people lose their minds, so the blowback could be the end of all.

ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
April 1, 2020 6:53 pm

Great, now there’s not a hat in the house that’ll fit my head….

I read the article and 54 comments….outta my league

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<——=== the Emperor appointed to close the old empire…

Uncola
  ordo ab chao
April 1, 2020 8:01 pm

Well, check back later Ordo. My professional Social Distancing course starts soon:

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ordo ab chao
ordo ab chao
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 4:06 am

That’s a road to paradise….

Thirty five years ago, I was fortunate to travel many like it with my late father in law, who operated a dozer for a huge oil/cattle/shipping family….on one location the road to the mansion was about three miles of a tree lined asphalt drive way. About a mile in from the main gate, a gravel fork to the east, and just over a slight rise, the view of a 60 acre water shed came into sight (the kind of water shed you could pull 5-6 lb. bass and 2 lb. crappie from); there were multiple such ponds on the approx. 4000 acre spread…..a place that was maintained kind of like a little weekend getaway that the owners rarely ever got away to, if you catch my drift. The ranch was on high ground, and it seemed nearly every way you looked, panoramic views……memories.

I’m gonna take a walk, could spend a lot more time on this thread. Had to take my 85 yr old mother in law to the hospital last day of March, we got our first case of covid locally on April Fools day, of course. Now, wife gets daily one person only visiting rights after the same circle jerk questions/temperature screening procedure..

annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum <<—–=== a new order for the ages is upon us

I've watched a half dozen or more of this young man's videos. Mostly, 10-15 min. ones, but for some reason I thought of 'paydrov' this a.m. As far as vetting him (?), the videos are clips of msm type news reports, local tv, product videos, etc….with him interjecting a bit along the way. This whole 'beast system' coming goes quite a bit deeper than can be covered in a blog post or 30 min. video, imho..

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
April 1, 2020 7:34 pm

You don’t even need to watch the whole thing. My jaw dropped when I heard them agree with me, Flea and a few others who believe this was manufactured. Just the first 10 minutes will do if you don’t have time.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
April 1, 2020 7:37 pm

Montagraph found this thing this morning.

“The United Kingdom’s efforts to ramp up public testing for the coronavirus suffered a setback Monday after key components of some tests due to be imported became contaminated with coronavirus.
Eurofins Scientific, a testing laboratory company based in Luxembourg, sent an email Monday morning informing government laboratories in the U.K. that delivery of key “probes and primers” for coronavirus tests would be delayed after traces of the coronavirus were found on the supplies, The Daily Telegraph reported.
It was not clear in the email how the tests became contaminated. Eurofins Scientific insisted other private coronavirus test suppliers have experienced similar problems.”

https://archive.vn/03Bk2#selection-1717.1-1751.169

niebo
niebo
  Mary Christine
April 2, 2020 2:05 am

Reported at MSN also:

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/coronavirus-testing-kits-heading-to-the-uk-found-to-be-contaminated-with-covid-19/ar-BB11YhSx?li=BBqdg4K

Makes one wonder how this sorta thing happens. Why, not so much. That’s obvious.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
April 1, 2020 7:54 pm

Meanwhile, here’s what’s really going on. On Sputnik news.
U.S. Researchers develop AI-powered app to detect Covid-19 signs through voice recordings.
In other words, if we say you have it you have it and it’s off to isolation.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  Fleabaggs
April 1, 2020 10:07 pm

At least it is not via robotic rectal exam.

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Pequiste
April 1, 2020 10:45 pm

Pequiste.
That will happen in the back of the squad car.

MY PENSION!!!!
MY PENSION!!!!
April 1, 2020 8:25 pm

They CAME

They ROBBED US

They LEFT

On taxpayer ships

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CCRider
CCRider
April 1, 2020 9:34 pm

In an interview today Peter Schiff said the fed buying up all the national assets is a back door Way into communism. Makes sense to me.

Uncola
  CCRider
April 2, 2020 12:21 am

Well, you know what they say, CC…, Peter Schiff is always right

CCRider
CCRider
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 9:10 am

It’s part of his job to be a promoter but compared to the other financial blowhards he’s in the same league with Doug Casey and Ron Paul. Nobody gets the timing exactly right-too many variables. But calling the right direction? Put your money on Peter. I have.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 1, 2020 9:55 pm

Does anyone know anybody personally that has contracted the virus? I don’t and I don’t know anyone who knows anyone else that has the virus. I also know a few people who work in hospitals and they haven’t seen hardly anything out of the ordinary.

If you do know someone with the virus, can you give a real life account of the experience?

Blather
Blather
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 7:02 pm

So true. Been saying that for the past couple of weeks. In fact, I don’t even see the wambulance on the streets.

The hospital I pass by all the time is perfectly quiet. None of my family members seen anyone sick and one of them even works in the entertainment business.

The only people I see sick are on the videos and pictures the MSM like to show up.

So is this all MADE UP??

Common Cents
Common Cents
  Anonymous
April 2, 2020 7:37 pm

My next door neighbor’s cousin’s dog groomer’s brother’s co-worker got tested. Still awaiting results.

James P.
James P.
April 1, 2020 10:24 pm

Do people get numbers of deaths from Coronavirus from anywhere other than Worldometers.info?

Because that seems to be a sham website with no traceable company or a sham company behind it. It says it’s owned by Dadax Limited, but that is not a real company. There is no way to tie it to individual human beings or find out who is inventing their numbers — which are bogus.

It’s the source of Wikipedia’s numbers as well as several other websites and it’s an utter sham. The Wikipedia entry for Worldometer has been changed and it used to say something about it’s being based in China, and it’s only function seems to be selling other scams, and tracking visitors and collecting data.

TS
TS
  James P.
April 1, 2020 10:59 pm

Here’s a site that seems legit. I can’t vouch for where he gets the info.

https://corona.help/

niebo
niebo
  James P.
April 2, 2020 2:15 am

try these guys. They do not use WHO stats, because, in their own words, “the WHO data can not be used for reliable time-series information.”

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus#our-data-sources

SeeBee
SeeBee
April 2, 2020 5:14 am

https://1010wins.radio.com/articles/ap-news/more-evidence-indicates-healthy-people-can-spread-virus
This is it. Full throttle manipulation to push the CovIDIOTS over the top. YOU’RE SICK, EVEN IF YOU’RE NOT SICK. (I guess they couldn’t come up with enough real sick people.) I wonder when they will start banishing their children and having them hauled away by the covIDIOT Police? After all, they are asymptomatic but sick. We’re here. This is the time. The covIDIOTS are going to lose their shit…..on YOU. covIDIOTS, they’re everywhere.

SeeBee
SeeBee
April 2, 2020 7:46 am

Damn I brought this up in an earlier post…..Now they’re coming for your pets.

Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) causes the infectious disease COVID-19,
which was first reported in Wuhan, China in December, 2019. Despite the tremendous efforts to control
the disease, COVID-19 has now spread to over 100 countries and caused a global pandemic. SARS-CoV
2 is thought to have originated in bats; however, the intermediate animal sources of the virus are
completely unknown. Here, we investigated the susceptibility of ferrets and animals in close contact
with humans to SARS-CoV-2. We found that SARS-CoV-2 replicates poorly in dogs, pigs, chickens, and
ducks, but efficiently in ferrets and cats. We found that the virus transmits in cats via respiratory
droplets. Our study provides important insights into the animal reservoirs of SARS-CoV-2 and animal management for COVID-19 control.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.015347v1.full.pdf

mark branham
mark branham
April 2, 2020 8:08 am

There is only one way to eliminate the leftist/commie/traitors, eliminate them. One day, it will come to this.

flash
flash
April 2, 2020 8:31 am

A little perspective…

“Coronavirus: 21,000 deaths.

Seasonal flu: 113,000.

Malaria: 228,000.

Suicide: 249,000.

Traffic fatalities, 313, almost 314,000 deaths.

HIV/AIDS, 391,000 deaths.

Alcohol related deaths, 581,000.

Smoking-related deaths, 1,162,000.

Cancer deaths, 1,909,000 deaths.

Deaths attributed to starvation, 2,382,000 deaths.

And death by abortion, 9,900,000.”

https://www.wnd.com/2020/04/shocking-list-killed-people-2020/

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  flash
April 2, 2020 8:51 am

Appeals to logic, reason, and factual evidence will get you nowhere in today’s climate.

We are in the midst of a mass hysteria, it is a collective experience and it is far more powerful in it’s effect on the population than any natural calamity or disaster could ever be.

Much like an epidemic it must burn itself out before the world is safe again for reasonable men.

flash
flash
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 9:35 am

I disabused myself of appealing to the masses with logic long ago. As the quote I posted from Aristotle noted some 3000 years; some people cannot be educated. I’m merely throwing red meat to the remnant. Just a little subsistence to see us though.

Isaiah’s Job

https://mises.org/library/isaiahs-job

“His success is unimpressive. On the evidence so far presented one must say, I think, that the mass man’s conception of what life has to offer, and his choice of what to ask from life, seem now to be pretty well what they were in the times of Isaiah and Plato; and so too seem the catastrophic social conflicts and convulsions in which his views of life and his demands on life involve him. I do not wish to dwell on this, however, but merely to observe that the monstrously inflated importance of the masses has apparently put all thought of a possible mission to the Remnant out of the modern prophet’s head. This is obviously quite as it should be, provided that the earlier preachers and philosophers were actually wrong, and that all final hope of the human race is actually centered in the masses. If, on the other hand, it should turn out that the Lord and Isaiah and Plato and Marcus Aurelius were right in their estimate of the relative social value of the masses and the Remnant, the case is somewhat different. Moreover, since with everything in their favor the masses have so far given such an extremely discouraging account of themselves, it would seem that the question at issue between these two bodies of opinion might most profitably be reopened.”

Uncola
April 2, 2020 9:29 am

And the hits…. they just keep on a comin’. Like the seconds on a clock; and always right on schedule

Bill Gates Calls for a “Digital Certificate” to Identify Who Received COVID-19 Vaccine

Bill Gates recently stated on Reddit that “digital certificates” will be used to identify who received the upcoming COVID-19 vaccine. And these certificates will also be used to identify who can conduct business or not. Here’s how this plan is already backed by a massive organization called ID2020.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 9:43 am

Did you ever imagine it would be otherwise?

Uncola
  hardscrabble farmer
April 2, 2020 8:17 pm

Never in a million years ?

RiNS
RiNS
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 10:12 am

And folks wonder why I’m a skeptic..

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 12:49 pm

Bill Gates can’t even keep viruses out of Windows, what the fuck makes him think he’s got any expertise in this field?

RiNS
RiNS
  Captain_Obviuos
April 2, 2020 1:10 pm

I don’t care what anyone thinks..

that’s funny!

Uncola
  Captain_Obviuos
April 2, 2020 7:50 pm

Good one Captain Obvious. When I get time tomorrow I’m going to turn that into a meme.

22winmag - TBP's Corona-Hoax Investigator
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 3:08 pm

Bill Gates, weighed and measured.

http://mileswmathis.com/gates.pdf

virushoax2020
virushoax2020
April 2, 2020 11:50 am

Great thread everyone should read:

Heroic Citizens Going to Local Hospitals and Fact-Checking the LYING MSM

Nothing is going on, quiet, no ambulances racing in, empty, nothing happening…It’s all BS!!!! The MSM is giving the impression that hospitals are war zone, bodies are piling up, we are in the medical crisis of our lives, yet when these people visit their local hospitals, NOTHING is happening, they are ghost towns!! Tons of ambulances just sitting their parked, EMTs hanging out and playing with their phones, etc,

http://gold-silver.us/forum/showthread.php?102096-Heroic-Citizens-Fact-Check-the-LYING-MSM-about-Corona

RiNS
RiNS
  virushoax2020
April 2, 2020 1:10 pm
Blather
Blather
April 2, 2020 6:06 pm

Yes, amazing all the coincidences. Including the more than 100 CEO’s that resigned a few months before all this happened.

GAZ
GAZ
April 2, 2020 6:56 pm

Accurate information is available people . Don’t take my word for it or anybody else here. Seek out the truth and fuck everything else.
March 31, 2020
Community Prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 Among Patients With Influenzalike Illnesses Presenting to a Los Angeles Medical Center in March 2020
Brad Spellberg, MD1; Meredith Haddix, MPH2; Rebecca Lee, MPH2; et alSusan Butler-Wu, PhD1; Paul Holtom, MD1; Hal Yee, MD, PhD3; Prabhu Gounder, MD2
Author Affiliations Article Information
JAMA. Published online March 31, 2020. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.4958
related articles icon Related
Articles
Until recently, diagnostic testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), was only available through public health laboratories.1-3 This limited testing was prioritized for persons who had severe illness or identifiable risk factors, such as travel to an area with ongoing transmission. Thus, the incidence of community transmission by persons with mild illness and without risk factors remains ill-defined.

The current public health strategy of case containment is premised on the assumption of no or limited community transmission. Identifying a high rate of community transmission would indicate a need to shift the public health strategy from containment to mitigation of spread. Thus, determining the rate at which mild disease is spreading in the community, particularly among persons without risk factors for acquisition of the virus, is critically important.

We conducted a rapid sentinel surveillance study to determine what proportion of mild, outpatient influenzalike illnesses were caused by SARS-CoV-2.

Methods
Between March 12-13 and 15-16, 2020, the Los Angeles County + University of Southern California Medical Center conducted testing among patients presenting with mild influenzalike illness to the emergency department or urgent care. Patients who had nasopharyngeal swabs tested with polymerase chain reaction assays for influenza and respiratory syncytial virus (GeneXpert Flu, Cepheid) were automatically tested for SARS-CoV-2 (Quest Diagnostics).

Only the influenza tests conducted during the day shift were automatically tested for SARS-CoV-2 because the process was manual. Patients were excluded if they had specific risk factors for SARS-CoV-2 (eg, travel exposure or known contact with a traveler, severely ill patients admitted for respiratory tract infections). Positive test results were followed up by Department of Public Health experts to assess clinical factors and demographics.

The number of influenza tests ordered by physicians at the Los Angeles County + University of Southern California Medical Center between March 2 and March 18, 2020, and the proportion testing positive for influenza were also assessed. In addition, the rate of influenzalike illnesses obtained from weekly surveys of emergency departments over the past 5 years were summarized, as well as the percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza from ongoing public health sentinel surveillance conducted at 7 clinical laboratories across Los Angeles County, California.

This study was approved as expedited with a waiver of informed consent by the University of Southern California health sciences campus institutional review board.

Results
One hundred thirty-one tests for SARS-CoV-2 were obtained and 7 were positive (5.3%; 95% CI, 2.2%-10.7%). The median age of patients who tested positive was 38 years (range, 34-44 years), 3 were male (43%), and the median duration of symptoms was 4 days (range, 2-4 days) at presentation. Six of 7 patients presented with fever, 5 with myalgias, and only 1 with cough. Only 1 patient had a travel history (returned from Miami, Florida). All patients had mild illnesses, and all tested negative for influenza and respiratory syncytial virus.

At the Los Angeles County + University of Southern California Medical Center, the number of influenza tests ordered by physicians was relatively stable, but the percentage of positive test results for influenza declined around the time of the study (Figure 1). Across the county, sentinel testing revealed a third seasonal spike in influenzalike illnesses during the weeks before the study; no third seasonal spike was seen during the prior 4 years, and the third spike occurred later than any spike during those years (Figure 2A). This late, third seasonal influenzalike illness spike occurred even as the percentage of respiratory specimens that tested positive for influenza steadily declined (Figure 2B).

Discussion
The 5% rate of SARS-CoV-2 among patients with mild influenzalike illness without risk factors is concerning. These patients had sufficiently mild illness to be active in the community throughout their illness, increasing the possibility of transmission. Such transmission is consistent with the unusual, third countywide influenzalike illness spike that occurred late in the season and with declining rates of influenza positivity.

The primary limitations of the study were the sampling for a brief period at 1 medical center and SARS-CoV-2 testing only being conducted during the day. Nevertheless, the results suggested that containment efforts were unlikely to succeed and helped inform the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health to adopt a more aggressive mitigation strategy to reduce COVID-19 morbidity and mortality. Similar efforts may be needed in other jurisdictions.
March 31, 2020
Community Prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 Among Patients With Influenzalike Illnesses Presenting to a Los Angeles Medical Center in March 2020
Brad Spellberg, MD1; Meredith Haddix, MPH2; Rebecca Lee, MPH2; et alSusan Butler-Wu, PhD1; Paul Holtom, MD1; Hal Yee, MD, PhD3; Prabhu Gounder, MD2
Author Affiliations Article Information
JAMA. Published online March 31, 2020. doi:10.1001/jama.2020.4958
related articles icon Related
Articles
Until recently, diagnostic testing for severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the virus that causes coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19), was only available through public health laboratories.1-3 This limited testing was prioritized for persons who had severe illness or identifiable risk factors, such as travel to an area with ongoing transmission. Thus, the incidence of community transmission by persons with mild illness and without risk factors remains ill-defined.

The current public health strategy of case containment is premised on the assumption of no or limited community transmission. Identifying a high rate of community transmission would indicate a need to shift the public health strategy from containment to mitigation of spread. Thus, determining the rate at which mild disease is spreading in the community, particularly among persons without risk factors for acquisition of the virus, is critically important.

We conducted a rapid sentinel surveillance study to determine what proportion of mild, outpatient influenzalike illnesses were caused by SARS-CoV-2.

Methods
Between March 12-13 and 15-16, 2020, the Los Angeles County + University of Southern California Medical Center conducted testing among patients presenting with mild influenzalike illness to the emergency department or urgent care. Patients who had nasopharyngeal swabs tested with polymerase chain reaction assays for influenza and respiratory syncytial virus (GeneXpert Flu, Cepheid) were automatically tested for SARS-CoV-2 (Quest Diagnostics).

Only the influenza tests conducted during the day shift were automatically tested for SARS-CoV-2 because the process was manual. Patients were excluded if they had specific risk factors for SARS-CoV-2 (eg, travel exposure or known contact with a traveler, severely ill patients admitted for respiratory tract infections). Positive test results were followed up by Department of Public Health experts to assess clinical factors and demographics.

The number of influenza tests ordered by physicians at the Los Angeles County + University of Southern California Medical Center between March 2 and March 18, 2020, and the proportion testing positive for influenza were also assessed. In addition, the rate of influenzalike illnesses obtained from weekly surveys of emergency departments over the past 5 years were summarized, as well as the percentage of respiratory specimens testing positive for influenza from ongoing public health sentinel surveillance conducted at 7 clinical laboratories across Los Angeles County, California.

This study was approved as expedited with a waiver of informed consent by the University of Southern California health sciences campus institutional review board.

Results
One hundred thirty-one tests for SARS-CoV-2 were obtained and 7 were positive (5.3%; 95% CI, 2.2%-10.7%). The median age of patients who tested positive was 38 years (range, 34-44 years), 3 were male (43%), and the median duration of symptoms was 4 days (range, 2-4 days) at presentation. Six of 7 patients presented with fever, 5 with myalgias, and only 1 with cough. Only 1 patient had a travel history (returned from Miami, Florida). All patients had mild illnesses, and all tested negative for influenza and respiratory syncytial virus.

At the Los Angeles County + University of Southern California Medical Center, the number of influenza tests ordered by physicians was relatively stable, but the percentage of positive test results for influenza declined around the time of the study (Figure 1). Across the county, sentinel testing revealed a third seasonal spike in influenzalike illnesses during the weeks before the study; no third seasonal spike was seen during the prior 4 years, and the third spike occurred later than any spike during those years (Figure 2A). This late, third seasonal influenzalike illness spike occurred even as the percentage of respiratory specimens that tested positive for influenza steadily declined (Figure 2B).

Discussion
The 5% rate of SARS-CoV-2 among patients with mild influenzalike illness without risk factors is concerning. These patients had sufficiently mild illness to be active in the community throughout their illness, increasing the possibility of transmission. Such transmission is consistent with the unusual, third countywide influenzalike illness spike that occurred late in the season and with declining rates of influenza positivity.

The primary limitations of the study were the sampling for a brief period at 1 medical center and SARS-CoV-2 testing only being conducted during the day. Nevertheless, the results suggested that containment efforts were unlikely to succeed and helped inform the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health to adopt a more aggressive mitigation strategy to reduce COVID-19 morbidity and mortality. Similar efforts may be needed in other jurisdictions.

Section Editor: Jody W. Zylke, MD, Deputy Editor.
Section Editor: Jody W. Zylke, MD, Deputy Editor.

Uncola
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 8:16 pm

@ Governmental Actionable Zephyr,

(Just kidding)

At the Los Angeles County + University of Southern California Medical Center, the number of influenza tests ordered by physicians was relatively stable, but the percentage of positive test results for influenza declined around the time of the study

Isn’t it peculiar how the declining rates of influenza positivity coincided with higher positive COVID-19 results?

The article you posted twice into the same comment doesn’t convincingly explain that oddity, does it?

As I stated in a past article:

…the data depends solely upon the number of test kits available. And it appears that more and more are coming; which, in turn, will surely result in more “positives”.

And hyperlinked into that paragraph were these two articles from March 8th 2020:

Top coronavirus expert Dr Fauci says four million tests should be available by end of week

And

Gates-funded program will soon offer home-testing kits for new coronavirus

Still, it doesn’t mean that COVID-19 isn’t a real killer of people with underlying issues. Perhaps we could understand it better if it wasn’t the vehicle of a national political an economic agenda, ya know?

GAZ
GAZ
  Uncola
April 2, 2020 9:31 pm

No way to test how accurate the test kits are. Suspect data looking backward projecting forward. Nice.

GAZ
GAZ
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 10:50 pm

?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  GAZ
April 2, 2020 8:22 pm
fred
fred
April 2, 2020 9:22 pm

Some valid points but please…just once…with an open mind…consider the possibility that all those photos are pure hype… and that perhaps…just perhaps..they used a mild respiratory flu as an excuse for huge economic sufferings of millions…billions?..For a planned agenda…for other reasons…population? solar minimum/mini ice age?.Microbiologist here with tons of virology lab research experience.

GAZ
GAZ
  fred
April 2, 2020 11:19 pm

Organic virus or synthetic?

Nobody
Nobody
  GAZ
April 3, 2020 3:27 am

If it’s an economic/political/tyranny aganda it doesn’t really matter if it’s organic or synthetic.

The only thing that really matters is that this whole thing has shown how intellectually, physically and spiritually weak the general populace is. Everyone will destroy all freedom, prosperity and happiness over statistically insignificant, unverifiable information.

It should be clear by now that that if the government told the mass of the people to get on the trains we need to move you for your safety they would immediately and without question pile on to the trains.

The general people amongst us can no longer be trusted as compitent, critically thinking , responsible people. God help us all for what is coming from here on out.

Retired
Retired
April 2, 2020 10:00 pm

Wow! This says everything I have struggled to say.

TampaRed
April 2, 2020 11:17 pm

i believe that the china virus is real & very dangerous–however,we do need to be vigilant about our liberties–
the link is to an article about how the cdc was budgeted $500 million in the stimulus bill to start using cell phone data to conduct surveillance on people–

https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc-coronavirus-surveillance-and-data-collection-stimulus-package-2020-3

Uncola
  TampaRed
April 2, 2020 11:34 pm

April fools, indeed:

Concerned Citizens Or Rats? Americans Snitch On Local Businesses & Neighbors Amid Shutdowns

“Naugatuck, Connecticut, resident Gwen Becker said she was ‘mortified’ when she drove by a golf course and saw a crowd gathered around a food truck and eating at tables together. So she took a video that her friend posted on Facebook — prompting the mayor to shut down the course.”

“I was angry and upset, and I threw some f-bombs,” said Becker, 54. “You’re not going to consider that what you’re doing could kill somebody?”

…..Even Funerals!

“Chicago police even disbanded a funeral Sunday after seeing a group of up to 60 people, many elderly, congregating inside a church, police spokesman Anthony Guglielmi said.”

csschenck
csschenck
  TampaRed
April 2, 2020 11:43 pm

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/washington-governor-jay-inslee-coronavirus-press-briefing-transcript-march-26

39:45

Already being done in Washington state. Part of the data they are using to decide when to lift the “Stay at Home, Stay Safe” order. He mentioned it again in his April 2nd address that extends the BS order till May 4th.

Anonymous
Anonymous
April 3, 2020 7:59 am

The way of the tribe!!!
They yearn for the “good old days” of their Messiahs – Lenin and Stalin. And they are quite willing to add Mousey Tongue to make it a troika. Or their very own Holy Trinity!!!

Gray Ghost
April 3, 2020 9:01 am

Are you aware this is all in the real Book? Not a movie not a novel not some asshole turning. There is a man, a most evil man that is waiting in the wings that has a reset and solutions the secular world is going to worship him for. Recommendation don’t sign on with his team. And read the Book, His team wins

Matt
Matt
April 4, 2020 6:17 am

No, America as we know it was not on it’s way out. The trial by the Progressive Democrats proved that we were in fact starting to climb back. Bold moves were needed by the Progressives which showed their hand blatantley, something they did not want to do.

Politically it was a Democrat’s nightmare and all you had to do was look at the black vote in America and where it was heading.

The Trump revolution and subsequent nationalist movement was gaining ground.

Satan called in a marker. When God allows Him to work because of man’s debauchery and sin Satan calls in chips on His own time, not when it is best for man. And a chip did He call.

John 3:16.

Gleimhart Mantooso
Gleimhart Mantooso
April 5, 2020 5:23 am

Why is there hentai on this site?

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