Is America Doomed to Split Apart?

Guest Post by Kurt Schlichter

Is America Doomed to Split Apart?

Is anyone else too old to start living on his knees? See, submission is not in the cards. The question is whether preserving our freedom means dissolving the Union. And though our alleged betters tell us we are not allowed to think about that horrible prospect, it’s the ruling caste itself that raised the question.

When you get a vile clown like Chuck Schumer promising to “change America” if he steals another Georgia election in the coming run-off, it only reaffirms that we don’t want to “change America” – at least not into the Venezuela-lite he and his coterie of neo-Marxist bother-wedders, fake Indians, and buck-tooth morons want. We’re not living in a dictatorship of the mediocre-tariat, or of anyone else, period. That’s non-negotiable. Nor does any alleged conservative principle of the kind pushed by supine gimps of the Mitt n’ French variety bind us to do so.

And yet there’s a huge chunk of America seemingly determined to suppress, disenfranchise, and even harm us. Save your gaslighting, hacks, I’m on Twitter, and every day I see people threatening us with, on the mild end, “reeducation” to “truth and reconciliation commissions” to outright murder.

I will not be reeducated or reconciled, and if you propose to murder me, I suggest you get your affairs in order.

In a situation like we are in today, with America polarized and the Establishment and its serfs dedicated to an agenda of oppression aimed directly at the patriot faction – oddly, the people who are so eager to rule this country also tend to hate this country – can we even survive as a nation? Should we?

That’s the question I have raised for four years in my conservative action novels, the latest of which, Crisis, just came out last weekend and is already a bestseller. Crisis covers the events leading up to The Split, where to stop the growing violence first initiated by the left, red and blue America negotiate a national divorce and divide the country into red and blue nations. The hero, when he’s not shooting bad guys or mocking liberals – such dully-glowing luminaries as Don Lemon, Eric Swalwell, Mrs. Ilhan Omar’s Brother, and Brian “Tater” Stelter all make cameos as do many conservative icons – must infiltrate blue areas to carry out his missions. Think of California ten years on, with secret police – that is, California ten years on.

Could a Split happen? In some ways it is happening already. In the last month two Californians I know have announced a move to Idaho. Don’t think that California is exporting only liberals – these are conservatives. There is, to some extent, a great sorting going on. Patriots are leaving big blue cities – and the House redistricting is showing that. But that means the blue enclaves are even bluer and therefore even more malignant. Don’t underestimate the lack of wisdom of these people – they are quite dumb and their own boundless incompetence, greed, and unaccountably high self-regard mean that they are absolutely capable of taking the kind of stupid and evil actions that could lead to the country tearing itself apart.

Think about what they would spark if they banned guns, of banned fracking and caused millions to become impoverished for the pleasure of Marin County weather pagans, or even if they banned religious teachings they disapprove of. Think that’s crazy? Think the vicious people who sue nuns an celebrate killing babies have some sort of boundary they aren’t willing to cross?

I’m not the only one who has wondered if America might break apart because of leftist idiocy, and some people, in their despair at the venality and stupidity of far too many of our countryman, think it is the only way to resolve our crisis. This is profoundly misguided. Yes, it is daunting. We have a whole younger generation raised on SJW nonsense, but the fact is that it is nonsense. That’s a huge advantage – what we believe in, like individual rights, freedom of speech, and economic liberty, are things history teaches people hold so dearly they will fight and die for them.

Who is the millennial who will die for the “right” to have his student loan paid off or to be addressed as “xir”? The left’s alleged values are ridiculous – they are not even values at all, but rather tools they use to leverage power over polite people (“Sure Jimmy, you’re a girl now. Fine. Whatever.”) and a means for losers to find camaraderie. Their whole garbage ideology is built on sand. And we’re going to just hand a big chunk of our country over to these ridiculous people?

Not on your life.

Why do my novels like Crisis sell? Because they ring true, truer and I ever imagined when I started writing about what I thought were outrageously wacky things like criminal misgendering and a PC FBI that put up a statue of J. Edgar Hoover in a cocktail dress to celebrate his commitment to LGBTQS^%!*£0 rights. The first one has happened already; try to tell me the second couldn’t.

But neither Crisis nor I favor tearing apart this country. In fact, the book looks hard at the dreadful costs of such a short-sighted idea. The answer to every problem we have is right there in the Constitution. We have only to insist that we find those answers there and not in any sort of surrender to the tyrannical fetishes of the left and their Fredocon submissives.

This is our country, and contrary to the Establishment and its media simpletons – who we have learned to ignore – the last election was a stunning repudiation of the left. Sure, they think they have managed to (barely) steal the presidential election, but even then, the margin was under 100K across a few states. Down ballot, we demonstrated that we are not beaten and we are not giving up.

Yeah, there’s more to do. The president’s legal challenges must be heard. We need to secure the Georgia Senate seats from mini-Teddy Kennedy and Jeremiah Wright Junior. We need to stop in its tracks any agenda that Grandpa Badfinger’s puppet masters propose, and use our now Roberts-irrelevant SCOTUS to stop any silly notions about rule by decree.

We need to ruthlessly redistrict in the statehouses we own while we use those same state legislatures to pass the pro-freedom laws made necessary by the massive fascist campaign by big tech and the big corporations to bring us to heel by cutting us off from access to the mechanisms of society. Our principles need to stop being a blind commitment to what Milton Freidman thought back before business started adopting the politics of the CEOs’ much younger and dumber second wives.

We’re not going anywhere. We’re not retreating. We’re not hiding. We’re not pulling into our conservative shell like some right-wing tortoise. This is our country.

We built it. We feed it. We fuel it. We defend it. And we’re not giving away any of it or ceding a single inch to a bunch of corrupt incompetents with delusions of dictatorship.

This is where we make a stand, for the Constitution and for our country.

Hey leftists, listen up. Shut up for a second and listen good. America is not doomed. We aren’t going to become serfs, and we aren’t going anywhere.

Crisis, the fifth book in my best-selling conservative thriller series about America split into red and blue is finally out and is already an Amazon bestseller. Also check out the prior novels People’s Republic, Indian Country, Wildfire, and Collapse.

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Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 8:22 am

No, America will not split. The world “leaders” a.k.a. slave owners have just gotten started with amalgamating the world.

1 world government. 1 world currency. 1 world religion. All for the benefit of the G.R.E.E.D.Y.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 8:24 am

“For the love of money is the root of ALL evil”.

Make no mistake about it, G.R.E.E.D. has destroyed more good than anything else.

j
j
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 2:25 pm

And what group of people worship money over all else?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  j
November 23, 2020 8:30 pm

The folks at Clinton Global Initiative?

William Williams
William Williams
  j
November 24, 2020 1:25 am

Chinese, Jews and Anglo-Saxons. You pick the order.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 11:20 am

Marxism is the political arm of Judaism. The mistake we are currently making is the conclusion that we are facing a Marxist takeover.

anthony aaron
anthony aaron
  ICE-9
November 23, 2020 11:54 am

We’ve been facing it for decades — going back at least to the Balfour Declaration that was used to get the United States into WW1 on behalf of the jew$ and their intere$t$ …

Like they say — Never … Again …

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  ICE-9
November 23, 2020 12:28 pm

Agreed. And the church, especially the catholic church and its protestant offspring are complicit.

Have any of you ever read Acts 4:32-35? This is where Marx developed his ideas. This is what the “pope” is currently pushing.

How do you not see how you are being used? That scripture is not for this age; but the future new covenant Kingdom economy. If the “Christian church” began in Acts chapter 2 than this scripture (Acts 4) is relevant. If it did not, you’ve been lied to all your lives about yet another important issue.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  grace country pastor
November 23, 2020 1:20 pm

GCP,

Will you please expand on this?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 1:35 pm

What form of economic system do you see in these words? Keep in mind that the vast majority of those who profess Christ in one form or another believe the church of today had its formal beginning in Acts chapter two. Thus, Acts chapter four would be a natural extension of and for that church.

Acts 4:32-35 KJB… “And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common. And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all. Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.”

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  grace country pastor
November 23, 2020 2:08 pm

Pastor,

Thank you. I’ve always had trouble understanding the Bible. The wording…

So, the apostles were socialists?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 3:33 pm

“So, the apostles were socialists?”

no. they believed christ was returning soon thus money and economics were about to become irrelevant.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 3:50 pm

The Divine Kingdom economy will be communist for a 1,000 year time period. That’s is in a nutshell. These people were Holy Spirit empowered to “not be greedy or selfish”. That early Jewish church was sinless. God enabled them to follow the law perfectly. Heb 8-10 is not a promise made to Christians but to Jewish (Hebrew) believers. We see it’s inception in early Acts. It’s gone by the books end. They are broke, sick and in need of help. Peter explains their unexpected situation to them in 2 Peter 3.

This is clearly not the case today. The Kingdom didn’t come. The prophetic time clock was interrupted when God called Paul. Something different is occurring today, something planned but hidden in God since before the world began. Freely offered grace to any and all, sans israel, by way of Christ’s atoning death, burial and resurrection.

Paul tells us to work in order to take care of ourselves and others less fortunate.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 12:00 am

Wow, you are now mixing up Communism with the theocratic rule of Jesus Christ. He will OWN everything as in Revelation noted that He will rule with an iron scepter. Those who don’t come each year to worship Him will also not receive rain in their home country (Book of Isaiah).

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Anonymous
November 24, 2020 7:22 am

The theocratic rule of Christ IS Divinely communistic; based on the promises made to Abraham beginning in Genesis 12:1-3. And stunningly beautiful I might add for those (few) who bless Israel and follow new covenant guidelines set for Gentile nations. I’m confusing nothing. Read the words in a KJB, you’ll figure it out.

luke2236
luke2236
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 5:24 pm

You are nothing BUT confused.
Yes, the people in the Church in Jerusalem set up a ‘commune’ as evidenced in the Scripture noted above. And it failed. In short order. Paul himself writes of collecting offerings from other churches to bail them out! Scripture is clear that we are to provide for ourselves and help a Brother in need ; it is OUR OWN decisions tho who to help and how – not the governments.
‘bless israel’ ? If you are mistakenly calling modern israhell the legitimate progeny of Biblical Israelites, then not only are you mistaken, but are a major part of the problem!!! The jew is antiChrist – why would we bless those who curse God Himself and reject jesus?!?!? Whih direction has our country – and the whole of the West – gone since ‘blessing’ the jew and stealing Palestine for them? It aint upwards… WHY would you lie about who the jew actually is? Jesus Himself told them they were of their father the devil. Understand that ONLY the AngloSaxon, Celtic, germanic, Scandinavian and kindred peoples are the direct , literal and ophysical descendants of Isaac and Jacob/Israel, as ONLY theu fit the Biblical description and only they [in the largest part] have ‘heard their shepherds voice’ and brought His Word to the world [as well as physical and national attributes] and you will begin to see the Truth. Until then, you sir are a ‘blind shepherd’ and a false teacher. Repent please and seek Truth.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  luke2236
November 25, 2020 11:42 am

You need to learn to read for comprehension.

“WHY would you lie about who the jew actually is?”

Show me where I did.

“Jesus Himself told them they were of their father the devil.”

Agreed. John 8:44…

“Understand that ONLY the AngloSaxon, Celtic, germanic, Scandinavian and kindred peoples are the direct , literal and ophysical descendants of Isaac and Jacob/Israel, as ONLY theu fit the Biblical description and only they [in the largest part] have ‘heard their shepherds voice’ and brought His Word to the world [as well as physical and national attributes] and you will begin to see the Truth.”

The truth is that I know no man after the flesh in this dispensation. There is no Jew, there is no Gentile in Gods eyes today. I don’t even know Christ after the flesh (His earthly ministry to Israel).

2 Corinthians 5:16 KJB… “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.”

Galatians 3:28 KJB… “And there is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

2 Timothy 2:15 KJB… “Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.”

ML
ML
  grace country pastor
November 29, 2020 12:20 am

IF WHAT YOU SAY IS TRUE THEN ONE OF THE LAST MAJOR PROPHECIES JESUS PROPHECIED WITH HIS OWN LIPS THAT THE JEWS WOULD FALL BY THE EDGE OF THE SWORD AND BE LED AWAY CAPTIVE INTO ALL NATIONS UNTIL THE TIMES OF THE GENTILES BE FULFILLED MUST BE THE PEOPLE YOU JUST MENTIONED? OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE WORLD KNOWS THATS A LIE AND THERES NO POINT IN ASKING YOU TO PROVE IT BECAUSE NO WHERE IN HISTORY DID THE PEOPLE YOU MENTION FULFILL YAHUSHUA’S PROPHECY. ONLY ONE RACE OF PEOPLE ON EARTH TODAY THAT BEST FIT THE DESCRIPTION OF THE FULFILLMENT OF YAHUSHUA’S PROPHECY WHICH BEGAN IN 70AD EVEN TO THIS DAY AS THE RULING GENTILE NATIONS ARE STILL RULING BUT ALSO COMING TO AN END AS THE WORLD COME TO THE END OF THE 6000 YEARS.

YOUR PROOF THAT SATAN HAS DECIEVED THE WHOLE WORLD, BUT, ITS ALMOST OVER NOW. SOON YOU WILL SEE THE TEN HORNS PREPARE TO DESTROY BABYLON AKA AMERICA IN WWIII IN WHICH MANY COUNTRIES WILL BE OVERTHROWN, THEN, THE BEAST WILL FILL THE VACUM TO RULE THE WORLD ALONG WITH THE FALSE PROPHET, THIS IS WHEN WORLD ECONOMICS WILL CHANGE INTO SOMETHING THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN OR EXPERIENCED USHERING IN THE THE MARK OF THE BEAST THE NAME OF THE BEAST THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME AND THE WORSHIP OF THE BEAST WHO HIS NON OTHER THAN GERMANY ALONG WITH BRITIAN AND RUSSIA, LEAPORD, BEAR AND LION, FULFILLING GERMANYS FORTH REICH. INTERESTING HOW NO ONE HAS YET TO SIT IN THE PARLIMENTARY SEAT 666 WHICH IS RESERVED FOR YOU KNOW WHO.

SORRY MA BRA, YOU ARE SO DECIEVED…BUT….THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR YOU IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT IS ABOUT TO UNFOLD ON THE EARTH FROM 2020 ONWARD AND ESPECIALLY BEGINING IN 2026. IF IT WERE ONLY POSSIBLE IT WOULD HELP IF YOU COULD TALK WITH PAUL WHO WAS MISTAKEN FOR AN EGYPTIAN OR EVEN BARNABAS AND SIMEON WHO WERE CALLED NIGER AND LUCIUS OF CYRENE AND MANY OTHER JEWS WHO WERE CHOOSEN BY JESUS AND THE MOST HIGH.

TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF YOUR DECEPTION I WILL REVEAL A MAJOR PROPHETIC TRUTH TO YOU CONCERNING AMERICA.

AMERICA IS ENDTIME BABYLON REV CH 18 IS A DESCRIPTIVE CH OF HER. AMERICA AKA BABYLON IS IN EXSISTENCE FOR ONE MAIN MAJOR REASON: TO CAUSE ALL NATIONS TO DRINK OF THE WINE OF THE WRATH OF HER FORNICATION WHICH IS TO SAY TO CAUSE ALL NATIONS TO BECOME JUST LIKE HER WHICH IS TO SAY TO CAUSE ALL NATIONS TO ADOPT A “DEMONOCRACY” (SATANS GOVENRMENT) WHICH IS ALMOST COMPLETE. AFTER THE LAST NATION FALLS HER PROPHETIC CALLING WILL BE COMPLETE AND HER JUDGEMENT WILL BE AT HAND. THE TEN HORNS WILL DO THE HONORS….BUT…. AT AND EVEN BEFORE THAT TIME THERE MUST BE A MAJOR EXODUS OF THE PEOPLE OF THE MOST HIGH OUT OF BABYLON. THE WORLD LEADERS AND THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP KNOW THIS AND WILL FIGHT TO PREVENT THE EXODUS BUT WILL FAIL BECAUSE BABYLON MUST BE JUDGED AND THAT CANT HAPPEN UNTIL SHE CAUSES ALL NATIONS TO ACCEPT A DEMONOCRACY BY ANY MEANS NESCESSARY WHICH SHE HAS BEEN DOING FOR DECADES AND DECADES AND DECADES AND IS ALMOST COMPLETE AND THEN GODS PEOPLE MUST COME OUT OF HER. YOUR DECEPTION HAS PROBABLY CONDITIONED YOU NOT TO BE ABLE TO SEE ALL OF THIS AND THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE, I HOPE FOR YOUR SAKE, IT IS NOT.

BABYLON WILL BE JUDGED DOUBLE, ONCE FOR DEMONIZING ALL NATIONS ON EARTH WITH HER “DEMONOCRACY” AND TWICE, FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE TO THE PEOPLE OF THE MOST HIGH.

AS THE RULING TIMES OF THE GENTILE NATIONS COME TO AN END THE WORLD WILL WITNESS THE BEGINING RULE OF ISRAEL ALONG WITH THE GRAFFED IN GENTILES WHO HAVE REPENTED AND ARE SAVED.

THE BEGINING OF THE ENDTIME PROPHETIC PROPHECIES IS COMING. TWEENTY-ONE JUDGEMENTS INCLUDING THE WRATH OF THE MOST HIGH TO BE POURED OUT UPON THE EARTH DURING THE GREATEST TIME OF TROUBLE THE WORLD HAS EVER HAD TO ENDURE.

I BELIEVE MANY SAVED GENTILES WHO ARE STILL SOMEWHAT DECIEVED WILL BE FLOORED WHEN THE MOST HIGH COMPLETES HIS PLAN AND YAHUSHUA HAMASHIACH JESUS THE CHRIST RETURNS TO EARTH IN FLAMING FIRE TAKING VENGEANCE ON ALL THEM THAT KNOW NOT GOD AND WHO OBEY NOT THE GOSPEL FOR THEY SHALL SEE HIS AS HE REALLY IS.

SHALOM
ML

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  ML
November 29, 2020 11:00 am

Say what? I couldn’t quite hear you…

NotAboT
NotAboT
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 3:53 pm

I think you need to study the history of the word “j e w” dear Brother.

Then study history, the history of venetian merchants which hq is now in the city in london.
then you should look up the word pharisee especially in the Bible.
Then study the word of Jesus about these “j e w s that are not j e w s”.

You dear Brother is under a zi on ist spell and i pray you open your eyes after you read his words.
Use the interwebz and check out how real semitic “j e w s” look, notice the skin tone, where most of them live and what they say about is r ael.
Study the pharisee askhe na Zi, notice their skin tone and heritage.
Only one of these groups are warned against in the Bible.
“I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.”

“But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.”

“You are from your father The Devil, and the desire of your father you are willing to do; from the beginning he has been murdering men and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him; whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from what is his, because he is of falsehood and is also its father.”

The word is clear and not open for much discussion, there is much more if you study.
We mortals tend to forget we live in history, history is not just the past.
History happens and evolve as we speak.
There is only One that is Eternal and Unchanging.

Orthodox Christian
Ultima Thule

(I am sorry for what is happening in your country. Now you only need to restart the rule of law and become 1 a United States of America or 2 split up and become balkanized ? republics armed with nukes.)

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  NotAboT
November 25, 2020 11:33 am

I am no Zionist and Jesus (in the red letters) wasn’t talking to you.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 3:51 pm

The Church, as designed, was a single body, with each part supporting the others (ICor 12:12-31). Each part is needed and each part contribute to the strength and well being of the body. The early Church members gave freely so the Church could take care of those in need. Many times in Paul’s epistles, he talks about taking up an offering to send to the Church in Jerusalem. These offerings were used for many purposes, including feeding the poor and sending missionaries into the world to spread the Gospel of Jesus.

With socialism, the government takes from the producers and gives to whoever they deem fit, after they have taken a little off the top.

I suggest you find a New Testament preaching Church with a pastor who is also a Bible teacher. I have learned so much the past 6 years after we found our current church. The pastor is a former teacher/coach and does a great job teaching the Bible. We just spent 17 weeks going through the 4 chapters of Colossians, verse by verse with him explaining he meaning of the words in English, Greek and Aramaic.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  TN Patriot
November 23, 2020 5:00 pm

It depends upon which church we are talking about TN P. The Jerusalem church in early Acts was covenant oriented. See what happened to those who didn’t give ALL to “Peter” in Acts chapter five.

You write… “With socialism, the government takes from the producers and gives to whoever they deem fit…”

Did you read the above words in Acts four? “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” That’s Marx, no?

The church, the body of Christ; the church of believers today is driven by grace giving and not tithing. Tithing implies if/then covenant agreements.

“I suggest you find a New Testament preaching Church with a pastor who is also a Bible teacher.”

I run from churches who believe we are under the new testament. Such a pastor may be a Bible teacher but he is not a Bible believer. If you believe your Bible, who is the new covenant/testament made with according to these verses?

Hebrews 8:8-11 KJB… “For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.”

Note as well that these folks don’t require teachers at all! Hmmmm… ?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  grace country pastor
November 23, 2020 5:46 pm

GCP – The Church I was talking about was the one with Peter as the foundation (Rock) and when reading Acts 4: 32-35, I read it to mean the people freely gave to the church and the church used the money for the benefit of the Church “Neither was there any

    among them

that lacked” emphasis added by me.

“Did you read the above words in Acts four? “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” “ No, I did not see those words in Acts 4, but that definitely is the philosophy of Marx, not Jesus.

As you pointed out, grace giving provides the financial means for today’s church. A socialist believes someone of power must take from each according to his means and distribute as they see fit.

There is no doubt in my mind that our pastor is a Bible believer, as well as a scholar of the Bible. Not all people who have accepted Christ are fully educated on the Bible and need leaders to help them in their Christian journey. Everyone’s journey begins with the first step. Paul took his first step on the road to Damascus and from that moment on, he was in the race to win it.

For me, it was a revival 60+ years ago in a little church in OK. I have stumbled and fallen many times in my journey and got completely off the path for 20 years, but when I hit rock bottom and cried out to Jesus, He was there to lift me up and put me back on the right path. My pastor helps to keep me on the path and is leading me to become a better Christian every day.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  TN Patriot
November 23, 2020 6:14 pm

“The Church I was talking about was the one with Peter as the foundation (Rock)”

Hard as it may be to process, what I’m saying is that this is not the church of today. It came to an end 2,000 years ago. Peter was/is a Jew. I do not follow Christ as Peter did. Nor should you. We should follow Christ as Paul did; as Christ sent the 12 to the 12 tribes of Israel, while He sent Paul to us, the Gentiles.

Paul: 1 Corinthians 11:1 KJB… “Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.”

Paul: Romans 11:13 KJB… “For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:”

Paul built the foundation upon which the church the body is built. Different church entirely.

Peters foundation rests upon the earth. Paul’s foundation rests in heaven. Two realms fallen; two realms in need of redemption. Both “in Christ”.

1 Corinthians 3:10 KJB… “According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.”

We mustn’t construct the building God gave Peter to build (the physical Kingdom in Jerusalem) upon Paul’s foundation. Nor can we place Paul’s work (heavenly places) on Peters. The two men are building different buildings (one earthly, one heavenly) upon the ultimate foundation which is Christ.

Ultimately the two realms will be brought together, in Christ.

Ephesians 1:10 KJB… “That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:”

A lot to digest, especially here. May I send you further information to explore?

luke2236
luke2236
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 5:26 pm

Peter was an Israelite – NOT an antichrist jew. period.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  luke2236
November 25, 2020 11:48 am

Peter was a believing Jew. There were unfortunately very few… 8,000 or so. Not near enough to bring in the Kingdom. Israel needed to repent on a national scale but didn’t.

Randall R Bridges
Randall R Bridges
  TN Patriot
November 23, 2020 7:57 pm

TN Patriot Our word ‘church’ is related to the older ‘kirk’ referring to circ-le, community, congregation. The word ‘commune’ actually included eating together, as in ‘communion’; all joing together in union as one. Spanish ‘comida’ is meal

Randall R Bridges
Randall R Bridges
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 7:36 pm

Anyone who claimed Jesus was Messiah was deemed a heretic by the Priests & excommunicated, cast out of the synagogue (society). They couldn’t buy or sell, were shunned and thus had no means of making a liviing. Sustenance depended upon new converts selling their property or anything of value and sharing with the whole (now separated) community of believers. Later, this is why Saul of Tarsus (Paul) collected alms to take to believers in Jerusalem, I believe. Meanwhile, most believers left Judea, being under persecution if they remained; those Judeans who bought property were as yet unaware that before too long Rome & its appointed kings would own ALL property after the Jewish-Roman war of 66-73 AD.

brian
brian
  grace country pastor
November 23, 2020 2:43 pm

This applies to the early church. It was the responsibility of the ‘church’ then to care for the poor. the widows, elderly, sick etc… Not really a ‘socialist’ form of government but rather a family taking care of those in the family. Socialism ‘requires’ you give them, government, your money, God asks for a small portion voluntarily.

Collectivism, communism, marxism, is antithetical to scripture in that it is man driven, directed and forced… Christianity is voluntary servitude to God. BIG differences between the two.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  brian
November 23, 2020 3:51 pm

Brian,

That was great. Thank you. I get what GCP was trying(?) to say now.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 5:31 pm

Not quite… Brian writes: “Collectivism, communism, marxism, is antithetical to scripture…”

If you read the scripture in Acts four you will see otherwise. The difference is that this “communism” is God driven. It was also forced. See what happens when two fail to comply.

Acts 5:1-11 KJB… “But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, And kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles’ feet. But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things. And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him. And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in. And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much. Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out. Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband. And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things.”

What’s going on here?

Im trying to get y’all to see that God alters the ways in which He deals with mankind from time to time. That there are different churches written about in scripture, at different times and created for different purposes.

Romans 3:21 KJB… “BUT NOW the righteousness of God WITHOUT the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;”

brian
brian
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 10:49 am

Whiles it remained, was it not thine own?

You glossed over the the fact that the gift was voluntary, the sin was in the actual lying about what was given. There would have been no issue if the gift was a portion of the sale, it was the deception that is at issue with God, not the material thing.

Again, collectivism, marxism, communism, is antithetical to Christianity. One is voluntary servitude to God, the other is servitude to man. God gives us the freedom to chose to follow and be directed by Him (Christ)and even to rebel against His leading.

Communism, marxism demands you give servitude to the government and its that organization that determines your destiny, you have no say in the matter. This is men usurping the authority of God and taking upon themselves the authority to to stand in place of God. Just like the Serpent of old when he stated in Isaiah 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.

Because communism,marxism, collectiveism is man driven it will always end in ruin. There is nowhere yet where this ideology has ever worked. Even at the very beginning of the US’s history collectivism was attempted which ended in utter failure with most dying.

This type of teaching is why there are so many ‘christians’ willing to follow and vote for democrat candidates even tho their policies are destructive. There is no reason morally or biblically to ever support the ideologies wrapped around marxism. If you support them then its in for a penny, in for a pound. The marrying of marxism to true biblical doctrine is deceptive and harmful to the Church, its a false doctrine.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  brian
November 24, 2020 12:18 pm

“Again, collectivism, marxism, communism, is antithetical to Christianity.”

And AGAIN I’m not referring to “Christianity”. What each and everyone here keeps missing is that the early church in Jerusalem WAS NOT Christian!!! It was Jewish! If your church tells you to follow Peter your church is wrong.

The gift was hardly voluntary. To be a part of the Kingdom participants had to SELL ALL, to give up control over ALL worldly possessions, as God would handle all their needs. Not doing exactly that demonstrates unworthiness to enter in. Thus the example in Acts 5. Jesus in His earthly ministry speaks to a non-apostle:

Luke 18:22 KJB… “Now when Jesus heard these things, he said unto him, Yet lackest thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.”

Should you think (as so many do) that this was directed at just this one man…

Matthew 19:27-28 KJB… “Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.”

…the 12 did exactly that and will someday be rewarded greatly. Going back to Acts chapters 4 and 5, we see the members of that early Jewish church in the same position. They sold all that they had as instructed, as the Kingdom was at hand, and let the Spirit (God) empowered apostles distribute as necessary.

Unfortunately, national Israel failed to jump on the bandwagon and the Kingdom didn’t come. God then changed the world by calling Saul of Tarsus, a murderer of Jews, and revealing to him the dispensation of grace we currently find ourselves living in. The mystery kept secret from before the world began.

What mystery?

I understand completely what communism is. Without God Himself directing it (as He will in the coming a Kingdom) it’s a sinful nightmare. Paul instructs us to work so that we might take care of ourselves and others. How you think I am somehow advocating communism by demonstrating its origins in scripture is your own error. You are reading something into my words that simply are not there.

brian
brian
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 2:50 pm

You are saying the early Church wasn’t Christian?!?!? They were not Jewish is for certain as there were those wanting to impose Jewish customs on the early Church. Which was soundly put down in that the requirements were they abstain from blood and strangled meats.

Christian means followers of Christ and make no mistake they were called, not only by those inside the church ,but others outside the church as well. There are many supplemental documents of officials writing to others for advice and naming them as Christians. Such as Pliny the Younger, and he isn’t the only one corresponding about these ‘christians’. The early church WAS Jew and Gentile alike and they certainly identified as Christ followers, ‘Christians’. Saying otherwise is false.

You previously stated to not spiritualize the scripture, reading it as plain meaning, and yet you just quoted Luke 18: 22 and stated that Christ wasn’t just talking to that individual, implying we should ALL sell everything to follow Christ. And, if we don’t then we can’t be a follower. Can’t have it both ways. You are missing the fact that God KNOWS your every thought and intent of the heart. What does a rich man cherish the most and would have the hardest time disposing of??? Its not your money that Christ is interested in nor the state of your circumstances, its the condition of your soul. This is elementary and not at all complicated but it can be extremely difficult to put into practice.

Does that mean you have sold everything you have, not owning a single possession and are serving and relying solely on God’s grace and provisions while still breathing here on Earth??

Just as the New Apostolic Reformation, the Word Faith, Contemplative movements are all false doctrines and heresies so is trying to marry collectivism to scripture. I agree with you in that if you are a follower of Peter or the Queen of Heaven (Mary), then you are going to have a very sad ending.

I enjoy scriptural debates and discussions but I also don’t want to highjack BP’s platform, which I know… to late… While we disagree on this I think we can agree that its only thru Christ that we have the hope of salvation.

Act 4:12 Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  brian
November 25, 2020 11:30 am

“You are saying the early Church wasn’t Christian?!?!?”

That’s exactly what I’m saying. They were Jews meeting in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem after the coming of the Jewish Messiah. How does one get “Christian” out of such a Jewish situation? They were not called “Christians” in Jerusalem!

Acts 11:26 KJB… “And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.”

Why were these believers first called Christians in Antioch and not Jerusalem? Are you not contending that the believers in the Jerusalem church were Christian?

The answer is that Antioch was Paul’s “home base” and that Paul was the worlds first Christian: a man saved by grace alone through faith alone in the shed blood of Christ alone.

1 Timothy 1:15-16 KJB… “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.”

“There are many supplemental documents of officials writing to others for advice and naming them as Christians.”

These hold zero water compared to Gods word. I make my case using King James scripture alone. Anyone can make a case for anything using other sources.

“Does that mean you have sold everything you have, not owning a single possession and are serving and relying solely on God’s grace and provisions while still breathing here on Earth??”

Of course not. I’m not a Jew waiting for “thy Kingdom come on earth as it is in heaven.” I’m a Christian waiting to go to heaven. I follow Paul as Paul is the apostle Christ sent to me.

“I think we can agree that its only thru Christ that we have the hope of salvation.”

Amen. Christ is the object of our faith. Our faith has a content as well. For the Jew (Peter and the rest) the content was that Christ Jesus was the seed of David and the Son of God (Rom 1:1-4). The content of our faith, that which Peter tried to stop (!!!) was that Christ became sin for all men, took that sin to the cross where we belong to hang, died the death we deserve to die and rose from the dead for our justification (2 Cor 5:19-21, 1 Cor 15:1-4, Rom 4:25).

luke2236
luke2236
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 5:30 pm

You sir are either a tool of satan or so deluded as to be pitied. Your lack of understanding is amazing for one who claims to be a ‘pastor’. You pervert and misinterpret Scripture. You have no understanding of economics either. Repent or perish.
Beware the leaven of the pharisee any who might be unfortunate enough to be subjected to this false prophets drivel.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  luke2236
November 25, 2020 11:46 am

You’re funny luke… are you saved? Do you know you are going to heaven when you die? Can you tell me how I can know for certain I’m going too?

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  brian
November 23, 2020 4:45 pm

This is what happens when we “spiritualize” the words rather than simply reading and believing what they actually say.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  grace country pastor
November 23, 2020 5:55 pm

Sharing and caring with and for all comes from the heart of the believer. Communism is the Devil attempting to make his dupes believe they can force or “emanantize the Eschaton” or Kingdom of God. They of course do not see it as the Kingdom but a paradise on earth which they, the “smart people” who are equal to God or even superior to Him can initiate by their brilliance. Those are the fools we call Luciferians, Democrats, collectivists etc.
Prepare ye to Praise God and pass the ammunition.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
November 23, 2020 6:18 pm

Plenty of republican “false kingdom builders” out there as well. Many surrounding Trump.

I’m not building a kingdom, I’m building a body.

William Williams
William Williams
  Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
November 24, 2020 2:10 am

>>>Communism is the Devil attempting to make his dupes believe they can force or “emanantize the Eschaton” or Kingdom of God.

A valid point, and it’s not just communism which seeks to build paradise on earth. I believe we should each try to leave the world a bit better than we found it, not through grand philosophies and manipulation/force, but through our own daily actions as we deal with those around us, small as our efforts and example might sometimes appear.

Recently I’ve become fond of the word “ape” (verb or noun) as a pejorative variant of “copy”. As the Devil is the ape of God, you could say communism is the ape of the Church, and the state is the ape of the family.

As the schemes of Bergoglio, Rothschild et al. advance, it’s not Paradise on earth that we approach, but Hell.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  William Williams
November 24, 2020 1:11 pm

Yes, Catholic populists have discovered the Pope actually hates “real” Catholics. I have great difficulty not seeing him as the face of evil. He is very likely Malachi’s anti-pope. He seems to have allied with Red China, taken billions in cash from them and has betrayed the underground Catholic church there. Cardinal Zin was refused even a five minute audience while he had an hour for the China kowtowing NBA group yesterday.
His consistent support of Democrats in the US who favor everything the church traditionally opposed, abortion being the foremost while expressing outright hatred for the most pro-life President in US history in the modern era, who prays with religious groups in the Oval Office is shocking. Bergoglio is a globalist and one worlder.
I will follow a breakaway church in the US if it comes to that. My relative Archbishop Carroll threatened that in the 1770’s and the time may be here now.

brian
brian
  Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
November 24, 2020 2:58 pm

He also knelt an kissed the feet of the top Imam for Islam. What exactly does that signify?? If he is ‘supposed’ to be representing God then he subjugated himself and the ‘church’ to islam.

This pope is well on the way to being the representative of the One World Church spoken of in scripture. Is this why many scholars consider this current pope to be the ‘Black Pope’?? The last pope.

Unreconstructed
Unreconstructed
  grace country pastor
November 23, 2020 7:16 pm

My,my. Been in my Bible all these years!!!

Ron
Ron
  grace country pastor
November 23, 2020 11:58 pm

You are unfortunately mixing up altruism with Marxism. You are misreading the Bible as during that time, the Caesar owned everything and thus would only allow the Sanhedrin and Herod own what they were allowed to.

The sharing in Acts is simply the new believers sharing what little staples they had to survive due to job loss and persecution.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  Ron
November 24, 2020 7:13 am

Actually, I’m just copying and pasting the Bible’s own words. You can choose to either believe them as I do and figure out why or spin whatever tales you like creating private interpretations as 99.9% of churches do. Y’all’s call…

Chart Lesson: Jews, Gentiles, and You

luke2236
luke2236
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 5:32 pm

OR we can ‘rightly divide’ and accept the actual Truth – something you are lacking.

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  grace country pastor
November 24, 2020 8:09 pm

GCP said, “Unfortunately, national Israel failed to jump on the bandwagon and the Kingdom didn’t come.”

This is because they were scattered abroad.

“Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,

To the elect, exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosen by the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance.”

“James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, To the twelve tribes of the Dispersion: Greetings.

No one was preaching the Kingdom to them. When someone did they were added in the same manner and for the same reasons.

In Romans 2:28, 29 Paul tells us who IS a Jew and who is NOT a Jew. God’s answer to this question cannot be obtained by looking at one’s genetics, but by the lawful requirements of citizenship in a tribe of Israel. This shows how those Jews who accepted Christ and all others who accept Him as King-Messiah have legally joined the tribe of Judah and are thus “Jews”. On the other hand, those who have rejected Him are NOT Jews at all, because they have revolted against the King of Judah and have forfeited their citizenship in Judah.

https://godskingdom.org/studies/books/who-is-a-jew/chapter-1-the-two-fig-trees-of-judah

messianicdruid
messianicdruid
  messianicdruid
November 24, 2020 8:16 pm

“Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.”

The Kingdom of God is a form of government, not a religion, or an afterthought.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  messianicdruid
November 25, 2020 11:59 am

Who did the scattering? It was Paul leading the charge.

What y’all fail to see, as does 99% of churchianity is the separate and distinct ministry given to Paul as opposed to the ministry God has always had planned for Israel.

Gods ministry for Israel has to do with prophesy; that which was spoken since the world began. Gods ministry for believers today has to do with the mystery kept secret since the world began and given unto Paul. “But now…”

Romans 16:25-27 KJB… “Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith: To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.”

Colossians 1:24-28 KJB… “Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church: Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God; Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints: To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:”

De-Icer
De-Icer
  ICE-9
November 23, 2020 12:40 pm

Maybe split into three parts then, with disgusting anti-semites like you getting an ankle deep sandbar miles offshore.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  De-Icer
November 23, 2020 1:04 pm

It’s ironic how every single disagreement with “god’s chosen people” is branded anti-semitism. Your post insinuating I should be murdered and dismembered reveals who is full of the real hate. Your projections won’t go far here and will be called out.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  ICE-9
November 23, 2020 5:59 pm

Thirteen douche nozzles out of thousands of views isn’t exactly overwhelming support. Your cognitive skills are a bit off today. The poster meant red, blue, and a “special” place for you.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
November 23, 2020 6:49 pm

I see now my mistake – was multi-tasking. First sentence still stands though.

KaD
KaD
  ICE-9
November 23, 2020 9:33 pm

You don’t have to be ‘anti-semite’ to see the truth. I consider myself a counter-semite. I don’t hate jews, I don’t blame them all, but the reality of who is behind all this shit is fairly clear.

“The goal of abolishing the white race is so desirable that some may find it hard to believe that it could incur any opposition other than from committed white supremacists” – Professor Noel Ignatiev, Harvard Magazine, Sept-Oct 2002.

“Most jews don’t like to admit it, but our god is Lucifer…and we are HIS chosen people. Lucifer is very much alive” – Harold Wallace Rosenthal, Administrative Assistant to Senator Jacob Javitz, 1976 interview.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  De-Icer
November 23, 2020 1:53 pm

And BTW, the only real conspiracy out there is the one relentlessly trying to prove there is no conspiracy.

Vermont Rebel
Vermont Rebel
  ICE-9
November 23, 2020 8:37 pm

“One of the greatest powers of the media is their power to ignore”.
-Mark Hewitt in American Thinker, 11/25/19.

j
j
  De-Icer
November 23, 2020 2:29 pm

Anti-Semite is a bullshit term, just like Judeo-Christian. If there are three Abrahamic faiths, then why don’t you ever say Judeo-Islamic? Bet you never hear that one.

Jizmo
Jizmo
  ICE-9
November 23, 2020 2:26 pm

Thank God that people like you exist who see clearly what is going on.

aspnaz
aspnaz
  Glock-N-Load
November 24, 2020 6:05 am

Global destruction of the middle class. They want all workers to be minimal resource workers like the Chinese: they live in tiny apartments, no garden, they are now mostly afraid of nature, in crowded cities designed to give you the minimum you need to live while optimizing the use of space. No comforts, no work life balance, happiness ambitions are not a thing, control over your own life is not a thing, you need permission to travel, you are monitored constantly, yes, similar to USA but there they use it to punish you, same as UK, Australia and NZ.

They are slaves in a cages!

The globalists want this for the west as well. They want this for you!

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
November 23, 2020 8:50 am

Sorry Kurt, we’re NOT voting our way out of this. Your vote doesn’t count, got it? If this scam election didn’t prove that to you then you are blind… Chip

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
  SmallerGovNow
November 23, 2020 10:48 am

Chip,

I couldn’t have said it better myself. If they steal the election in 2020, what makes anyone think every election from here on out won’t be stolen? And why does Schlichter think there’s something mystical about a country where half the people (the productive) support the other half? I believe it was Ben Franklin who said something to the effect that where freedom is, there was his home. I’d rather live free in a country with the size and power of Rhode Island than live in what Schlichter considers an acceptable state of semi-freedom, which is the same thing as semi-slavery, even if it has all 50 states and maybe Puerto Rico thrown in for good measure. Secession is coming, whether Schlichter embraces it or not, and it can’t come soon enough.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
  Robert Gore
November 23, 2020 2:54 pm

I registered and voted for the 1st time in more than a decade knowing there was going to be wholesale cheating. Smokin Joe Frazier cancelled my vote. Joe Frazier has been dead since 2011.

John Taylor of Caroline and Thomas Jefferson had some very good exchanges when finding themselves a similar situation that we find ourselves. Jefferson still trusted the system they had created and championed a Vote Harder response to their tyranny. John Taylor of Caroline favored secession. This was in 1798. Already the system wasn’t working.

If Vote Harder doesn’t and can’t work, there is only one solution left.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Dirtperson Steve
November 23, 2020 3:23 pm

Why even countenance secession? Why not simply refuse to obey? Why not simply refuse to feed the beast? The ‘lawmakers’ and their ilk along with the SJW and other stupid dems look down in disdain on those who actually keep the wheels on the trains and the produce flowing. These scum produce no food, they offer no services, they cannot exist without the support of the ‘producers’ aka: Deplorables.

Remember Fight Club?

We cook your meals. We haul your trash. We connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not fuck with us.

We actually have the power, not them. If a horse realizes how strong it actually is, no one can ride it. The problem then becomes that the failed rider might decide to kill the horse. We aren’t horses, we have brains and we are actually legion. We have been gaslighted and lied to for so long we truly believe we are weak and powerless.

Get off the pity pot here, stand up straight and get real and get honest. Wallowing in defeatism is pointless and self-defeating. Grow some balls, some big balls. Grow a voice, a voice that tells the looters to just go right Fuck The Fuck Off. They want a list? Well, boy howdy, let US make some lists…Time to Cowboy up fellas, you know what you have to do, we all know what we have to do and it’s real simple…..

Stop obeying them, stop supporting them and if it means giving up your precious and pathetic social media and smart phones and all the other toys they use to keep you in thrall, then by God, DO IT. Quit feeding them so they can destroy you….
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brian
brian
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 23, 2020 4:12 pm

Been saying the same thing for a loooong time… Its a war… stop funding the enemy.

Quit paying to watch their rubbish, quit ordering from their online china outlets and order from US companies directly. It takes but a small amount of effort but in doing so you won’t be funding your own demise.

Secondly get out into the street, make noise, be counted with those that oppose the steal. Even the old toddies here complaining that they are to old and don’t want to risk losing everything… You can lose everything on your feet or cowering in a corner. You have a better chance of not losing anything by standing up and defending what you built over cowering in a corner and ‘hoping’ the communists will pass you by.

Time is now to fight back like honey badgers or risk losing everything. Its a war…

Thank you Mygirl

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  brian
November 23, 2020 4:30 pm

Thank you Brian.
I also suggest keeping your children far away from the military and any government sponsored police agencies especially at the Federal level. Locally, unless your sheriff is a good guy, stay out of the police groups at all levels.

The coup is almost complete and for it to remain in power it needs lots of armed enforcers to do their bidding. If they bring in foreign/UN troops then you know its on.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  brian
November 23, 2020 6:04 pm

Indeed. Let’s see what happens to their “plan” after they get punched in the face.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 23, 2020 8:49 pm

Respectfully, the group least attached to the machine I can think of are the Amish. If we all lived like the Amish do you think The Beast would starve and the Marxists and Neocons would leave us alone?

I do not. The Beast has shown that vote harder is not a viable solution. I am more certain now than ever that the outcome of statewide elections are predetermined. That will never be rectified by voting harder.

brian
brian
  Dirtperson Steve
November 24, 2020 11:04 am

You are absolutely right in that the the marxists and neocons will not rest until they have a firm grip on the levers of power and wealth. There is no voting harder as it doesn’t matter if you press harder with the pencil when marking your ballot.

What will make the difference is that if every voter demanded and sought to ensure their vote was registered, counted and recorded in the manner they voted. What does that entail. Its means educating yourself on how the process is carried out and ensuring its open and verifiable to anyone questioning. If the ‘People’ were thusly educated then they would be monitoring, and catching the criminals easier, to ensure not only their vote counted but even their rivals.

Its only the criminals that try to hide, obfuscate and hide in the shadows. Truth doesn’t have a problem with sun light.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 24, 2020 12:30 pm

Best comment you’ve ever made,for my money at least. May the readership and many others be inspired by it!

SmallerGovNow
SmallerGovNow
  Robert Gore
November 23, 2020 3:40 pm

Thanks for the reply Robert. Judging by the plus/minus marks on our posts it seems that most here understand that if this election is left to stand, as is, then America as founded is OVER… Chip

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Robert Gore
November 23, 2020 11:44 pm

Even IF all future elections eliminated Mail-in voting, and required a picture I.D. and verified SSN number (and that ain’t gonna happen) I bet Dems STILL would find a way to cheat. With unlimited Soros/Zuckerberg money, we’re behind the game going in every time. And since the rigged voting system won’t be fixed for the “next election,” why should any of our side bother voting? The fat lady’s aria is over.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
November 23, 2020 11:54 pm

I forgot to add “and paper ballots only.”

brian
brian
  Anonymous
November 24, 2020 11:11 am

Defeatism certainly isn’t going to stop the advance of the enemy but only expedite it.

It doesn’t matter that the demoncraps are going to cheat as thats their ONLY method of winning anything. Yes they are very good at cheating, stealing and lying, just as their father is, the god of this world the one known as the Liar.

What matters is that every opportunity to cheat is dismantled as found. They’ll come up with another ploy, guaranteed. When discovered it gets removed and those fomenting it prosecuted. Tall order but still possible, IF, the People band together and come out in a show of force and start choosing leaders who ARE willing to lead on integrity and actually follow thru.

Its a war… they are playing for keeps, you need to fight back

swimologist
swimologist
  brian
November 24, 2020 1:16 pm

If, in the future, the mail-in votes are going to continue to be unverified and anonymous (no signature, no address; allowed) and handed out like candy for the Democrats to use any way they want with no accountability, voting without requiring a picture I.D. and corrupt computerized voting still a thing, the Communists will gleefully win every time. You can call me a “defeatist,” at least I’m not pissing in the wind and thinking it’s just normal yellow rain.You will just be giving legitimacy to a outright lie instead of finding “other means”
to take charge.
Prove me wrong, anybody reading this.

swimologist
swimologist
  brian
November 24, 2020 1:19 pm

Democrats have been cheating (and thereby winning ) since LBJ’s senate race in 1948, Kennedy in 1960, Al Franken’s senate race, etc. NONE of THOSE cheating systems have ever been dismantled, so WTF are you even talking about?
NOTHING is being dismantled except this country. Stop dreaming.

brian
brian
  swimologist
November 24, 2020 3:07 pm

One thing positive is that there are now very clear lines drawn. The demoncraps aren’t even bothering to hide their distain, nor the rino’s. Whats different now is that there is a lot of energy and will to make those changes and at the very least damage the criminals for a long time.

Throwing up your hands in defeat will always hasten you to the gulag. If fighting for retaining your freedoms and demanding integrity from political leadership is to hard for you, then perhaps you should get used to drinking soy latte’s now.

William Williams
William Williams
  Robert Gore
November 24, 2020 11:10 am

If the 2020 election “results” are allowed to stand, those who run the USA will have to start delivering fake votes to the Republican party as well as to the Dems. With Trump out of the picture, I see little liklihood that the Republicans will again be competetive nationally – ever.

Rubio 2024?

j
j
  SmallerGovNow
November 23, 2020 2:30 pm

Time to fight.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  SmallerGovNow
November 23, 2020 8:46 pm

A side benefit of not voting-meaning going to the county elections office and telling those jokers that you demand to no longer allow your name to be on their roles as a registered voter-you likely will be selected less often for jury duty. Judicial proceedings have been beyond a waste of time for at least the last 40 years for the citizen who is mandated to participate in the farcical gathering known as a jury trial.

Brian Reilly
Brian Reilly
November 23, 2020 9:01 am

Schlichter asks plaintively “And we are just going to hand over large chunks of our country to these ridiculous people?”. The answer is … well… kinda sorta already did. See, those “ridiculous people” are the paid , indoctrinated troopers for the real powers-that-be, and no one really challenges them. Ridiculous as they are, they have the full protection of every cop and court in the land. And lots of Schlichter’s (and my own) relatives/acquaintances are these oddball ridiculous people who don’t do anything worthwhile that anyone is willing to pay them to do, but still they are family, and we don’t often really confront them even when they tell us about their positions and protests, and how that degree in Psych is working out. We just don’t dare really talk with them, and risk all the wailing

So yeah, we have turned large parts of this country (which isn’t “ours” anymore and hasn’t been for decades) to these ridiculous people. And we won’t get any of it back until it is broken. And by then, we might not want it.

suzanna
suzanna
  Brian Reilly
November 23, 2020 10:16 am

I kind of like the idea of a national divorce. I want
desperately to be rid of the bad people. Yet I am
quite impulsive so I must temper my thinking.

By all accounts Trump won the election. Millions
of “votes” inserted after counting stopped, to
pad and add votes to Biden aside. This is a royal
mess.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  suzanna
November 23, 2020 10:30 am

It is actually a soft coup by the Progtards with the voting irregularities and the taking over the mass and social media. Then add in the medical martial law and closed borders. Hmmmm.

A soft coup it is.

The hard coup comes, should it, when Habeus Corpus is suspended, tanks roll, and armored personnel carriers patrol the streets.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Auntie Kriest
November 23, 2020 12:34 pm

The Taliban and others showed that even that will not be enough.

Gato Naranja
Gato Naranja
  Auntie Kriest
November 23, 2020 3:12 pm

It’s been going on since November of 2016.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Gato Naranja
November 23, 2020 8:48 pm

You mean right after Hillary graciously conceded?

brian
brian
  suzanna
November 23, 2020 12:07 pm

Compromise and acquiescence the ‘bad’ people is never to right solution. They are never satisfied with the accepted and often agreed to middle ground. They ALWAYS come back and demand more and once you start caving to their demands… it never ends. Then like the old camel adage you will find yourself out of the tent and the camel will own the tent.

The ONLY way to defeat these evil sod’s is to confront them in their face and then kick them to the curb. Remove them ALL from any position of power, rino’s included. Time is now to fight and fight hard.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  brian
November 23, 2020 12:46 pm

Not just kick them to the curb but force them back into the sewers where they came from. Quit trying to go along to get along and thinking a so called national divorce is in the cards. These people want you DEAD OR IN CAMPS.

DS
DS
  suzanna
November 24, 2020 5:57 pm

I agree with you — but you must realize that the demoncrat asshats will not allow us to live in peace in our own thriving country (assuming it is built on sound/real money). No, they will try to infiltrate and destroy it because that is what hatred and evil is about. It’s similar to how they will bail on their failed shithole state (be it Somalia or Commifornia) and move to Texas or other sensible location, only to vote left and wreck it over time. Talk about shitting where you eat…

KaD
KaD
  Brian Reilly
November 23, 2020 12:37 pm

Maybe we could just wall off the blue cities.

Roger Sharp
Roger Sharp
  KaD
November 23, 2020 8:50 pm

The Ancients use to burn the cities of their enemies.

William Williams
William Williams
  Roger Sharp
November 24, 2020 2:22 am

When the Romans finally had their fill with Carthaginians, the razed that city, killed 700,000 inhabitants, and enslaved the remaining 50,000 women and children.

Sherman was a piker.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
  Brian Reilly
November 23, 2020 3:15 pm

The good news from a tactical and operational view is that a huge majority of those fucked shit heels reside in large urban centers that are fairly easy to cut off from resupply via their bridges and highway systems. Not to mention a good TACP and forward observers will fucking annihilate grid squares of terrain, structures and people. Easiest target is their water supply.

Those fucking city creatures that have never lived off the land or had to actually fend for themselves will be easy pickings. And all those wonderful foreign agents that have been rioting do not realize how stupid they are when they crowd together like that. They learned nothing from the Balkans, Middle East, Las Vegas atf/fbi massacre, Boston Bombing, etc. Mass gatherings are prime targets. And it is flat out ridiculous how easy it is to wreak havoc with panicked stampeding humans.

People will soon realize that they either get back in touch with their inner predator warrior instinct or die.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
November 23, 2020 3:58 pm

If the lights went out in a few cities, the urbanites would eat the population alive. The grid is extremely vulnerable and has some very high $, difficult to replace hardware.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  TN Patriot
November 23, 2020 6:09 pm

The big pieces have only a handful of spares worldwide and take a year and a half minimum to build I am told. Every article you have ever read about what happens from an EMP is what happens if somebody took out a mere handful of big transformers etc.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
November 23, 2020 7:32 pm

A single substation can have 1/2 dozen of the big transformers. The switchgear inside the substation office also has very few spares and are long lead items. These typically are very soft targets and any terrorist could hit them easily.

OHMama
OHMama
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
November 23, 2020 6:17 pm

Yes. This exactly. The cities are the key. They produce next to nothing that is truly essential. Block the roads, stop shipping them food, and let their human pets burn them down.

swimologist
swimologist
  Zulu Foxtrot Golf
November 24, 2020 1:27 pm

Everybody on this site keeps talking about how they’re going to monkey wrench the “system” somehow, and they we’ll take power. What are you going to do with a military filled with globalists in the highest ranks (people like Mattis, Petraeus) and anti-White muds filling out 50% of the military E-7 and below being used to prevent those actions? (Remember the black female West Point graduates posing at graduation with the clenched Black Power fist?)

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 23, 2020 9:07 am

If that’s what it takes to get these “leaders” off my neck, then I’m in favor of it.

brian
brian
  Anonymous
November 23, 2020 12:12 pm

Problem is they won’t get off your neck, but will stomp down harder. Look to other socialist countries for examples of this, Brazil, Peru, Guatemala, Venezuela, N Korea, China. They’d be happy for you to give up, you’d be an easy target to exploit further.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  brian
November 24, 2020 12:43 pm

I suggest you study a bit more about South America. Neither Perú nor Brazil are “socialist” countries. Codes down here are not quite like they are in more flexible socities in Asia or to the north of us, save Venezuela, a nation sadly conquered and coloniozed by Cuba while the USA slept. The Monroe Doctine was abandoned while the pkutocrats made hay while the sun shined and the gringo govs looked to the “globe” to increase profits at the expense of “ordinary” people. We down here await your awakening.

brian
brian
  Montefrío
November 24, 2020 3:11 pm

Brazil only just elected an nonsocialist Bosanaro but previously to him they were socialist. And Peru… maybe you haven’t noticed but they just elected a socialist.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  brian
November 24, 2020 4:11 pm

Perú. where I have a house and many friends, is a bit more complex than the election of the president of the week might indicate. Spent much time there? Speak the language? Brazil, well, Bolsonaro has been there for a bit and how the country will go next time around is still up in the air. C’mon down when permission is granted and see for yourself.

swimologist
swimologist
  brian
November 24, 2020 1:29 pm

Exactly. These armchair generals have no idea the kind of manpower necessary to counter the now-corrupt military/national guard.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 9:09 am

His proposition that young leftist SJW’s won’t fight for their nonsense whereas older people who value freedom will fight to the death seems exactly wrong. Young blue-haired tatted and pierced fools have nothing – so they have nothing to lose. Older people’s minimal wealth could be at risk of confiscation, but at least they usually have something – a job, a house, maybe some savings – and they don’t want to lose that. Look at this election and its aftermath. Whether there was cheating or not (and there was), Trump seems headed out the door, yet no one burned down any cities. If Trump had trounced Biden 65-35 the Antifas and fellow travelers would have gone on the rampage.

DA
DA
  Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 10:20 am

Patriot reaction would have to come as soon as there is incontrovertible proof that the system has failed, i.e. when the courts have rejected the voter fraud legal actions. If it does not happen at that point, it will never happen. That would officially be the end of the USA as a constitutional republic and a signal to head for the exits.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DA
November 23, 2020 8:53 pm

Calling John Roberts.

William Williams
William Williams
  Anonymous
November 24, 2020 2:35 am

Serving his country. Not serving yours.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DA
November 24, 2020 12:01 am

And your “that would be” is about to arrive in two weeks. What then?

SoTexGuy
SoTexGuy
  Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 10:58 am

I enjoyed the op-ed. Actually one of the better front pieces to a book introduction I’ve read in a while.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 12:00 pm

That is it in a nut shell. I am 70 years old on my little 2 acre homestead and I’m too old to start over and have them take what little that I have worked for all my life. I know that eventually they are going to take it anyway . I just don’t want my wonderful wife of 45 years to have to live with nothing in her last days. We are not one of the favored classes so we can’t get away with standing up to them.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 12:51 pm

Older people are going to lose all they have anyway. It will be taken from them. The elite have already stated “You will have nothing and like it” and have said far worse. If you think what you have is yours to keep think again. There is a 6 point plan on what the left have in store for us. This is not about pushing them away or off our backs.

Mygirl....maybe?
Mygirl....maybe?
  Anonymous
November 23, 2020 3:42 pm

Klaus Schwab has already told us that we will own nothing…and be happy. Kerry and Biden and all the other globalists are already telling you what they are going to do to you. They are going to take what you have. They are going to take your material possessions, your pride, your independence, your last vestiges of freedom….your country. They will take that away and give it to the Third World Invaders that they will open the borders for, letting them swarm in like cockroaches….

‘They’ call it THE GREAT RESET…..

The progs have plans for you and those plans are to take whatever you have and divvy it up between themselves and what crumbs are left will go to the deadbeats.

“From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”

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Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 23, 2020 5:07 pm

Auntie would like Klaus Schwab to personally underwrite my requirement for 20,000 Swiss Francs (in credit) a month plus a 60ft Hatteras (that I would gladly not own, just use) and paid for dockage in Tortola, or even U.S. Virgin Islands.

It would be a start to better living re-imagined.

William Williams
William Williams
  Mygirl....maybe?
November 24, 2020 2:24 pm

FWIW there is an excellent, and quite hostile, review of Herr Schwab, the WEF and the Great Reset posted at The Vinyard of the Saker

http://thesaker.is/the-great-reset-no-pasaran/

“Actually, [Schwab] is perhaps neither a megalomaniac nor a fool, but a freak, the kind of villain that jumps straight out of Batman comics. Alongside the Penguin and the Joker, Schwab should be locked up behind bars, dressed in a straight jacket and pumped to the hilt with antipsychotic drugs, but he is not. He has appointed himself as an advisor to global political leaders, and those buffoons take him seriously.”

ottomatik.
ottomatik.
  Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 11:00 pm

The Burning Cities is still on the menu, I promise, they started here in Denver night after election, and were told to stand down. Crazy shit burning monkeys just started on their own, not long now before they are given the green light across the lands.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 9:15 am

He’ll start to understand when he’s kicked off Twitter and Townhall gets shut down because their bank got boycotted.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 6:19 pm

Go to Parler. Fuque banks. Use cash. Start our own bank. Use fax machines. Mail newsletters. Ham radios. The fuqueing coup plotters used Ham radios. Did you know that? Nellie Our was short waving with the other criminals. How many still have or could get CB radios?
Put all your shit in a trust or sign it over to your wife or kids now just in case.

Hollow man
Hollow man
November 23, 2020 9:29 am

I sure hope so.

ScalpelSharp
ScalpelSharp
November 23, 2020 9:34 am

I listened to YT Frie & Barnes last night explaining one of many scenarios. One, that if voter fraud is proven, Jan 20 passes, Biden could be impeached, Kamala becomes Pres and la de da in four years we can change statues, laws, organizations. No re-vote. This would be the legal option available. Essentially a crime to destroy our lives but no way a legal re-vote can occur. In other words, a man has come into your home assaulted you and stolen your life’s work, but you get arrested and become bankrupt. Your freedom and home taken because he is a POC. Because we have decades of politicians that made their deals to enrich themselves with luxury & power.
A crime committed and no justice, no freedom. Stop the discussion that if we take our arms into action we will be in a lawless land. We’re already there. Freedom IS GONE. No intelligence agency that I know or have heard is investigating the machines.
I’m Cuban. My parents came from Cuba in 1958. Grandparents, uncles & aunts did not make it. The people that remained in Cuba in 1958 never saw a 2024 for change. Neither will we.
I’m seething. I’m sick of it and if it is going to be taken away why live in misery on one knee.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  ScalpelSharp
November 23, 2020 10:13 am

G.R.E.E.D

Montefrío
Montefrío
  ScalpelSharp
November 24, 2020 1:23 pm

My grandfather’s house in Miraflores went poof in ’61 and is now a block of flats. Compensation? Hah! You are entirely right, but sad to say I don’t believe ni diez por ciento (10%) of USA citizens understand this, never mind will resist it. My grandpa was in no position to resist (he was 81 and alone), but at 74 and not alone down here in Argentina, for better or worse, with a responsibility to my posterity here on the same property, we’re in agreement that we will not submit to seizure. Perhaps the gov can abnegate our deed, but to remove us from the property would be difficult and would result in violence. We’re not selling and we’re not budging. Highly doubtful that such an attempt woud be made barring very major social changes. Could happen,mind, but doubtful.

Johnny Hooker
Johnny Hooker
November 23, 2020 9:46 am

http://www.amerika.org/politics/all-roads-lead-to-china/
Brett Stevens is one of the best thinkers in America on Fourth Turning.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Johnny Hooker
November 23, 2020 7:55 pm

At first, I thought you meant Bret Stephens. He’s a bedbug.

Sam J.
Sam J.
November 23, 2020 9:58 am

It appears to me that there is a deliberate push to create a civil war in the USA. There’s no need for it. None at all and all the different communities can live with the main values they have without totally affecting all the others in the US. Centralization of power is THE PROBLEM. I will say, once again, there’s a way to completely turn the country around and keep it that way by changing three disastrous Supreme Court decisions that took away power from suburban and rural areas and gave all the power to the cities and the mobs. We could change these if we controlled the House, the Senate and the Presidency which may very well happen. I think I’m the only person that’s seen this clink in the deep States armor or at least I haven’t seen anyone else talk about it. It may very well be that they put this into place on purpose. It drives me nuts that there’s this total focus about killing off these people or that people and all this conflict when the whole thing could most likely be avoided by changing a few Supreme court decisions which is well within the power of Congress to do.

The Judicial branch in the US overstepped it’s bounds by declaring three very important changes to the Constitution.

1. They did away with the individual States Senates to be based on regions just like the US Constitution is set up and forcing the States to apportion votes in their Senates by population only. This had the effect of placing all the political power of each State into the cities hands. Rural areas have no power at all and are only to do the bidding of the cities. [This is the reason they are all fired up to get rid f the Electoral College] These illegal rulings can be changed. The Judiciary erred in doing this and written into the Constitution is this,

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/articleiii

“…In all the other cases before mentioned, the Supreme Court shall have appellate jurisdiction, both as to law and fact, with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make…”

“…with such exceptions, and under such regulations as the Congress shall make…” The important part. The earlier part declares what powers they have but it ends with control of these functions by Congress.

So with a majority vote the legislature could tell the courts to buzz off and that the apportionment of State Senate seats is none of their damn business. There’s a long line of Judaical abuses that the legislatures could tell the courts to piss off and if they persisted then it may be the only thing they would be deciding was water rights between the States.

2. The second big screw up the courts did to destroy our country is to stop the States from having controls on who votes. They deemed these “racist” but they are perfectly legal. Before if you didn’t have a high school diploma in many States you couldn’t vote. Once again we should get the Congress to tell the Courts to buzz off and change this. With some sort of eligibility for voting a lot of the nonsense going on would stop. People with radical leftist views would not be able to get elected and moderate rule would be the rule.

3. I would add one more change to the poorly ruled Judicial rulings. They have ruled Corporations are people and can give as much money as they wish to the legislatures. Well I would make them choose. They could choose to not give any money to politicians and they could get Corporate tax breaks or they could choose to give money to politicians and they would lose any corporate tax breaks. If they wanted to give money they could only file taxes as people and have to follow the same rules and most importantly they would lose any limited liability that they get from being a corporation. So if they break the law they go to jail.

Some States are already lost and they wouldn’t change but their complete mismanagement would mean that people, as they are, would flee them and they would lose power over time.We’re seeing this happen right now with great ferocity. In even the worst of the States, from a Conservative perspective, giving power to rural areas to balance the cities might mean that the Senates of these States could turn the States around.

What if every law in New York State had to get the approval of up State New York? It would be a BIG difference. Same for California. Right now I bet the Governor in Michigan would be already impeached if all the Senators were regionally based. All the burning down in Oregon and Washington would be nonexistent as the Senators would DEMAND the National Guard be called up. There would be no damnable lock down. Confiscation of arms in Virginia would not even be contemplated. In fact a large amount of really screwed up things would never even happen because the Governors would know that the Senate in the States would not stand for it and would kick them out. Do you think rural and suburban Senators would stand for the total voting corruption and cheating going on in the cites? No way. It would be stopped. A whole range of issues would be tempered by rural State Senate votes.

There would of course be much agitation about this but without the total majority of political support now monopolized in the cites moved to rural areas we could brush them aside just like the legislatures do to Whites right now.

There would also be MUCH LESS likelihood that the rural Senators would be as susceptible to blackmail as those centered in the cities. I’m not saying they are better people but in rural areas people are much more likely to try to uphold stricter standards of behavior as you can not get lost in the crowd so easy. People are watching.

People keep talking about civil wars, kings and other nonsense and we don’t need any of this. Change these three court rulings, enforce them and long term we would have a complete change in the nature of our country. Every since the Civil War cities have been accumulating power and now they have too much. We have it in our power to change this and we should.

I’m a bit of a doomer when looking at the trajectory of our country but I’m not at all a doomer in believing that there’s no way out of our problems. If we could get decisive leadership who would tackle these in a forthright and expedite manner then we could rapidly clear up a vast amount of problems we have.

suzanna
suzanna
  Sam J.
November 23, 2020 10:26 am

All well and good/good ideas but we just watched a major
victory turn on a few hours of intense cheating.

Machines? Machines programmed to weigh and slice votes,
voting was not an answer to our difficulties. I may have lost
all hope in an undoing of this fraud.

Meanwhile AOC speaks about lists of Trump voters so
as to target them with some revenge. That tops the cake.

JP
JP
  suzanna
November 23, 2020 1:23 pm

This is even worse than AOC’s statement. From Orange County California Intelligent Assessment Center and sent to all Federal and State Senior Leaders.

Deep-state spooks trying to turn law enforcement against patriots flocking to Parler, MeWe, Gab

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  JP
November 23, 2020 6:35 pm

These asshats just make up whatever they want about anything of a Deplorable flavor. Proud Boys are explicitly anti-racist with Blacks in leadership and gays. Gab specifically does NOT allow any so-called neo Nazi stuff.
WARNING: These government drones are strangers to the truth.

brian
brian
  Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
November 24, 2020 11:15 am

They’re not strangers to the truth, they simply hate it and avoid it.

like bacon to a muslim

Anonymous
Anonymous
  suzanna
November 24, 2020 12:16 am

PLUS, accomplishing much of what he talks about requires a successful constitutional convention. Think that’s gonna happen?

swimologist
swimologist
  suzanna
November 24, 2020 1:38 pm

I understand how you lost hope in undoing THIS fraud. But if voting without picture I.D. is allowed to continue; if mail-in ballots that don’t even require a signature and address can be handed out like candy; if corrupt computerized voting is still allowed, conservatives will lose in every major election from here on out, and that’s not even counting the continual flood of illegal aliens voting somehow. The only question left is– quoting the Cops theme song–
Whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when ((they)) come for you?

ICE-9
ICE-9
  Sam J.
November 23, 2020 11:36 am

The entire purpose of the UK from 1871 to 1945 was its use as an instrument to destroy Germany and thus neuter Europe for the sake of its complete control by the central bankers. The USA is facing the same situation today as did Germany 129 years ago – it must be neutered to enable complete pacification of its citizenry and total control of its foreign policy mechanism (i.e., war making) so to gain absolute control over its finances. Germany was united so it had to be destroyed from without, and only after the destruction of WWI did the central bankers call in the communists to destroy it once and for all from within. Given the tremendous divisions between class and race the easiest way to neuter USA is from within via another Civil War where the central bankers take control of the bankrupt county like they did with USA in 1871.

The script is outlined here.

The Evolution of Fiat Money, Endless War, and the End of Citizenship

Sam J.
Sam J.
  ICE-9
November 24, 2020 5:59 am

Very astute observation and I believe you’re right.

overthecliff
overthecliff
  Sam J.
November 23, 2020 12:21 pm

Assuming that we could decentralize the government, we must remember that the left does not go by the rules. They go by their rules and the only way to deal with them is to defeat them. We must emulate Franco but be much more efficient in cutting out the cancer . Nice thoughts Sam but it won’t work. Libertarians cannot deal with Antifa.

ICE-9
ICE-9
  overthecliff
November 23, 2020 1:09 pm

I’ve come to the conclusion the USA can’t be fixed, it can only be destroyed and rebuilt to order. I would gladly give up much of the material bullshit and frivolous passive amusements for less intrusion and a simpler life. GDP is not the measure of everything.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  ICE-9
November 23, 2020 1:31 pm

“I would gladly give up much of the material bullshit and frivolous passive amusements for less intrusion and a simpler life.

^^^^^^^^^^^

no jack london
no jack london
  overthecliff
November 23, 2020 8:45 pm

Kurt could be a great leader, if he had any troops. Where is our Franco? In 1991/92 the FBI and the security state shut down the Michigan and Montana Militias. Legalized murder took place at Ruby Ridge. Who paid the price?
In 1993, Janet Reno burned a number of children, women and men alive at Waco. Sure, the victim were a strange group, violated laws and were generally peculiar. But, why should they pay the supreme penalty with no trial while convicted street thug-rape murders are released after less than 10 imprisonment?
How many of the arrestees at the Bundy Ranch were informants? Who died or ended up in jail?
Idaho is a long way from a American Redoubt. Sure some of the Oregon counties (two voted for state secession) and others from Washington would like to join Idaho. Sadly, within five years, Silicon Valley and Bangalore migrants to Boise will overwhelm these vanishing Americans in numbers and political common sense.
BTW I remember when Kurt wrote about General James Mattis defending PDJT against a military coup. Great comment thread.

.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  no jack london
November 24, 2020 1:48 pm

Kurt is a blowhard trying to flog his bookand s. Franco was a military leader and a patriot, and I’ve not seen his like in the USA. The “best” y’all might get is a monster like Oliver Cromwell. Do it yourselves or bend the knee.

OHMama
OHMama
  Sam J.
November 23, 2020 6:23 pm

Civil war is absolutely in the cars when you have such a vast difference in philosophies. One side wants limited gov’t, freedom, personal risk, and free markets. The other side wants collectivism, loss of freedoms (gun ownership, free speech, etc) and loss of private property rights. There is no reconciling those differences, one side needs to win, and the other needs to be crushed. Winner take all. You cannot co-exist with the enemy. It hasn’t worked in the USA since the 1960s, it has just gotten worse and worse, and now it is finally at a head.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  OHMama
November 23, 2020 9:14 pm

As the hindus say about the muslims, you can’t lay down with a mad dog.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  Anonymous
November 24, 2020 6:36 pm

Goodness gracious me.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  OHMama
November 24, 2020 1:50 pm

Sadly, I agree 100%. I live in South America where that’s ubderstood. Y’all play for all the marbles or your chance to do so will disappear.

Sam J.
Sam J.
  Sam J.
November 24, 2020 5:43 am

suzanna,”…All well and good/good ideas but we just watched a major
victory turn on a few hours of intense cheating…”

I covered that. With the States Senators controlled by the rural and Suburban areas you think they would continue to allow the cities to steal all their votes????

Anonymous, “…accomplishing much of what he talks about requires a successful constitutional convention…”

Not so I said,

“…So with a majority vote the legislature could tell the courts to buzz off and that the apportionment of State Senate seats is none of their damn business…”

That’s it. Majority vote in Congress. Barring fillibusters. They could have done it when Trump first got elected and we would now not be in the mess we are in. Congress controls what business the Courts can take up.

As for not living with them, you wouldn’t have to. They could pozz their States up all they liked and it wouldn’t effect you.

Further with control of the State Senates, and we would have control, we could nullify the amendment making Federal Senators elected and go back to having the federal Senators appointed by the State legislatures which since we controlled the State Senates would be very much in our favor.

You people are doing a poor job of knocking down an idea that may very well save us from a civil war which will be controlled by many other countries, people and God only knows who else who will definitely get involved. A civil war would be a huge disaster and should be avoided at all cost. Every country on the planet would probably take sides and push the blood shed levels up atmospherically high. It would not be just us fighting the liberals in cities. I repeat this it would not be just us. It would be replay of the “Thirty Years’ War” in the German States where everyone went back and forth slaughtering everyone in their way. A disaster.

People say this can never be fixed but it reminds me of a software programmer who said that it’s almost always a mistake to completely rewrite a large piece of software code, gave several examples of why this is so and showed cases where this action totally undermined the whole company. One of the reasons is that all the code that no one can understands is likely odd bugs that were squashed and if you rewrite it you will just have to start all over. All that I’m proposing is that we go back to the original Constitution that we had. And while it is not perfect we can readily see that monkeying around with it by the Courts has caused a severe “bug” and misalignment of powers. Maybe we should try to wrench out the bugs introduced by the Courts before we start shooting each other.

As for machine voting here’s a dirt cheap, simple and easy to verify method to make that happen.

First use normal paper. On the paper or several sheets if necessary leave “lined” margins on the sides and a separate “lined” margin at the bottom. A person marks their votes in the bubbles printed on the sheet. They then scribble in the margins. Any thing they like. Names, scribble, figures, whatever.

They take their ballot to a table where there is a simple web type cam and a regular PC. It could a cheap ancient PC because the processing power will be minimal. In fact a “Raspberry Pi” single board computer at $30 a piece would be fine and cheap $30 web cams would also be good enough. They lay their ballot on the table and a web cam takes a picture of the ballot. If necessary for more than one piece of paper the voter could be prompted which pages to lay down to record the vote. Each ballot picture, with the scribbles, (important for individual identification later), has the votes tallied and displayed for the voter to verify that the vote is accurate. If so a HASH, (a digital finger print of the vote and the random scribbles the voter put on the ballot. An example HASH would be SHA512 or any other.), is made of the picture and it is displayed to the voter. The voter writes down the HASH number on the bottom of the ballot as a record of their individual vote. The HASH, the vote tally and a .jpg of the ballot is sent to a cheap PC server in the same building and mirrored in the States server. All votes are immediately counted and there is a back up of every single vote referenced with the hash, the picture of the ballot and the tally. All of these records are in a data base that anyone can download the whole voting area records and they can check the pictures to make sure they added up the votes right and everyone can check their individual vote and see the picture they made of their ballot with the HASH number they wrote down. They take the ballot with them as a record.

Absentee voters use special paper that is marked with codes to keep track of how many are sent out and they can either use software and their phones to take pictures of their ballots or they can write on them and send them in to be photographed and then added to the package of ballot pictures, HASHES and totals.

Added in for safety all ballots will be handed out in a controlled area where every single ballot handed out will be on a video stream camera that is also streamed to the server and added as a package to the ballot pictures, HASHES and totals. All of these databases will be able to be BitTorrented at any time so anyone can check the validity of the election right away.

To further control the votes you could have everyone hold up a picture of their ID and have their picture taken so that if they cheat we will know who they are. This would be before they get a ballot and would not in any way tell anyone how or what party they voted for only that they got a ballot.

brian
brian
  Sam J.
November 24, 2020 11:28 am

I don’t see the ‘right’ looking so much for a civil war and not the ones to pull the trigger first. The leftist in fact ARE pushing for an escalation towards a civil war. This is how they operate. Look at every country that has switched to ‘socialism’. Its always preceded by riots and violent conflict nearly always started by the communists, its the primer to police/military lockdowns and the setup to fraudulent voting, either just before or afterwards.

But what you suggest is vote integrity. A system that is both simple and verifiable is harder to game. Communists hate that and would fight it like cornered rats because they know they can’t cheat the system as easily.

Will it come to a civil war in the US?? Time will tell but one thing is certain, it won’t be the ‘right’ that starts it but it will be the ‘right’ that finishes it.

swimologist
swimologist
  Sam J.
November 24, 2020 1:43 pm

Good ideas for voting integrity, but I still don’t see how the legislatures can circumvent the 17th amendment. That requires a constitutional convention.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  Sam J.
November 24, 2020 1:43 pm
Patooti
Patooti
November 23, 2020 10:06 am

Seems like a hard sell on a book that might need a spell check since the author didn’t recheck his post before posting it. Sorry buddy.

brian
brian
  Patooti
November 23, 2020 12:15 pm

sooooo the weight and content of the article is lost because there may be a few spelling mistakes??

Certainly know where your priorities lay. So whats the color of your favorite crayon???

SammyWeaver
SammyWeaver
  brian
November 23, 2020 2:20 pm

Yes absolutely to answer your first question. . You Brian are an imbecile. Shove your crayon up your ass.

brian
brian
  SammyWeaver
November 23, 2020 2:48 pm

LOL… Looks like I triggered another internet spelling troll… You outa crayons?? Maybe patooti will loan you some… ask nice…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  brian
November 23, 2020 9:01 pm

where your priorities lie; helps to use proper grammar.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  Anonymous
November 23, 2020 10:20 pm

Spell check fuques with everything and literally behind your back will change things to politically correct phrases. Above you will note my reference to Nellie Ohr was changed to Nellie Our. As I typed this it tried to change it to “Ohs.”

brian
brian
  Anonymous
November 24, 2020 11:34 am

So if my priorities are no spelling mistakes and ‘proper’ grammar, not to forget punctuation, but my premises or opinions are off the chart crazy, then its all good??

I think I’d rather not get all anally tied in knots, tossing out the content, over a few spelling, grammar and punctuation mistakes.

MMinAR
MMinAR
November 23, 2020 10:09 am

If this fraudulent election is not mitigated and Biden is installed, there will never, ever be any election we can trust.

Lee Harvey Griswald
Lee Harvey Griswald
  MMinAR
November 23, 2020 2:47 pm

Trust in the same sentence as election you say? There hasn’t been an unfucked election in at least 20 years. Probably longer.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Lee Harvey Griswald
November 23, 2020 9:02 pm

Throwing elections was sooooo easy in 1960 in Richard Daley’s Chicago.

Auntie Kriest
Auntie Kriest
  Anonymous
November 24, 2020 6:34 pm

“I don’t care who does the electing, so long as I get to do the nominating.”
– William Magear ” Boss ” Tweed

Boss Tweed and Tamany Hall had Noo Yawk City (and New York State) by the cojones circa mid-1800s. Got ’em beat by a century.

piearesquared
piearesquared
November 23, 2020 12:11 pm

Kurt is a complete idiot as usual, but in his defense most people on the left, and most people on the right until this month, think exactly the same way he does on this subject. “We need to win the presidential election. We need to take control of the Senate. We need to take control of the House. Then everything will be puppies and rainbows from now until eternity.”

Does it ever occur to those people that they probably won’t be able to take control of the government permanently? Does it ever occur to them that the other side might win some of the time, or most of the time? Are those people surprised by the advent of Autumn every year? Of course, in the defense of the Left, they probably ARE going to control the entire federal government in perpetuity in the not too distant future, due to the continuing drift to the left caused mainly by younger people, who tend to be leftists, coming to adult age, and also by immigration, both legal and illegal.

swimologist
swimologist
  piearesquared
November 24, 2020 1:45 pm

“the continuing drift to the left” caused mainly by young mud race members. FIFY

anthony aaron
anthony aaron
November 23, 2020 12:12 pm

I can see where many of the comments here say that Kurt is way off base — that the leftists/marxists/NWO folks have already taken over and that elections and the like are worthless to right our Ship of State.

But is secession really the answer? Ask yourself how would it work if, within your own family, you were as divided politically/ideologically as we are as a Nation? How would you do it? Have one half move into the upstairs and the other half live in the basement? Really? That would solve nothing. Imagine your own neighborhood — where your ‘polar opposite’ neighbors lived 15′ away from you. What about that?

No … Kurt is probably right that we need to pull a Cloward-Piven on the left — use their own rules and agenda against them just like they have pulled a revolt against US by those tactics since the ’60s.

I don’t know how this will all come out in the wash, but We The People Of The United States need to band together more — get our political class cleaned out of all of the RINOs and neocons and NeverTrump folks who have betrayed US for too long.

Maybe instead of redistricting our States for membership in the House of Representatives we should have all of our House members be ‘at large’ … maybe that would help take back some of the quasi-dictatorial power that the big blue cities seem to have over the House.

Just random thoughts …

Remember, too, folks — going into Thanksgiving this Thursday — we DO have a lot for which we can be thankful to our God … for our health of all kinds, for being born in The United States, for our families — spouses, children, grandchildren, parents, siblings, everyone … for the Founding Fathers and their great courage in creating for US a democratic republic that is still the finest example of a Nation we’ve had throughout history.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  anthony aaron
November 23, 2020 4:04 pm

In many states, going to at large representatives would just give more power to the cities

OHMama
OHMama
  anthony aaron
November 23, 2020 6:28 pm

If I was married to a “progressive” idiot, we’d be divorced. Thankfully, I’m not. There is NO WAY that rational people can peacefully co-exist with emotional tyrants, which is exactly what the leftists in America are.
Do some research on narcissism. The best counselors out there will tell you that the only way to find peace is to completely excise them from your life. No amount of logic, compromise, kindness or decency on your part will ever sway them to even see you as a human, much less as someone to be taken seriously.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  OHMama
November 24, 2020 4:29 pm

Quite right, ma’am.The question is: How do you deal with them? Excising them from your life is less than easy to answer when they rule over you.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  anthony aaron
November 23, 2020 10:06 pm

Rubbish. The government is involved in everything as is. It’s not a stretch to setup some sort of a moving referral for each side to relocate. Has it been done before? I don’t think so, not without war leading to Sykes-Picot. But it sure would have solved the Ukraine issues if it split into two and allowed folks from one side to relocate to their preferred enclave.

DS
DS
  Articles of Confederation
November 24, 2020 7:25 pm

it sure would have solved the Ukraine issues if it split into two and allowed folks from one side to relocate to their preferred enclave True, but that’s not what Uncle Scam wanted

Stucky
Stucky
November 23, 2020 12:31 pm

“I’m not the only one who has wondered if America might break apart …”

“I’ll bet Sally is terrific in bed!!”, wondered John to himself.

But, John was happily married. It was just a fleeting thought. Lasted no more than five seconds. If it was a seed, it was smaller than a mustard seed, the smallest of all seeds. John quickly went back working on the spreadsheet his boss wanted before day’s end. When he went home he kissed his wife … not even remembering his lustful thought just a few hours before. And so he lived his routine life month after month, for about eight months. He didn’t even realize that the mustard seed was growing and spreading inside of him. The TV News channel say he raped Sally out of the clear blue. The TV News had no way of knowing that John started the rape eights months prior.

No, Kurt you are not “the only one who has wondered”. Millions of us are wondering the same thing. It may only be a mustard-seed of thought right now. But, it is spreading. And, growing ……..

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Stucky
November 23, 2020 1:43 pm

I hope you’re right. I have a Libtard daughter. It brings me much pain to say that. It was no secret to my stepdaughters how I felt about immorality and big government. It goes to show the power of propaganda.
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Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 10:25 pm

We were the hidden monsters in Carpenter’s film. Not the Progs. They were the good guys. Of course I didn’t know that at the time. He said so in interviews. Apparently an asshat, but his remake of “The Thing” is monumental.

swimologist
swimologist
  Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
November 24, 2020 1:48 pm

Jesus, I didn’t know that. I should have suspected as much from a Hollyweird director.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  swimologist
November 24, 2020 7:48 pm

Same. THIS is why I come here!

William Williams
William Williams
  Stucky
November 24, 2020 2:30 pm

>>> It may only be a mustard-seed of thought right now. But, it is spreading. And, growing.

I have no crystal ball, but the USA’s governing elite has finally “lost the mandate of heaven”.

That’s Chinese for “look out below!”

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
November 23, 2020 12:33 pm

There are only 3 options. Peaceful separation, massive reduction in the power of the federal government to the point that its actions impact virtually nobody, and civil war (with the complete elimination of the other side).

We most certainly CANNOT continue with the massive federal government we have today. Even under the most “benign” administration and congress, it is a monster that destroys freedom, steals vast amounts of wealth, and protects big business interests to the detriment of small businesses and virtually every consumer. Kurt seems to think that we should NEVER give up any of this country to the other side. Why not? Are we ready to face the devastation that a civil war will bring, or would we rather simply build up other areas of the country and finally try to have the countries we wish?

Personally I would start by eliminating the federal government entirely and letting the 50 states go their own way. No, that does not separate me from my worthless freedom-hating neighbors, but it does mean that the “prize” is finally gone. No longer will there be an excuse that “my tax dollars are being used to support….X” from everywhere in the nation. Now it will be a state and local issue, and these folks will no longer be able to pass the buck off to “federal legislation….etc.” From there of course we need to push for further dissolution as every state has serious imposer/imposed upon issues (hat tip to Jeff Deist of Mises). When people finally know that there is a refuge for those who still love liberty, they will come. Indeed, the states promoting socialism will descend into chaos, but people will be bringing their guns with them, and the only way people seem to learn anything is through personal experience. One can want to try and change the minds of folks who have been brainwashed from K-12 and beyond, but how is that going to happen, and does Kurt honestly think that the dems will give up control of the schools…or that republicans will all suddenly take financial responsibility for their own kids and demand an end to government monopoly schooling? LOL Get those kids and young adults into a living circumstance where they can see good things happen, absent non-stop propaganda, and their minds might change.

But then once there is a breakup, the massive control over everyone needs to stop on the right as well. What exactly is the point of trying to stave off civil war, only to be enslaved on the socialism-lite plantation that republicans typically support now?

No easy solutions, but I do know in my deepest heart, that government, the blind support of government, the blind support of the idea of government (that someone, for any reason, has the RIGHT to rule over you), is at the root of every problem our society faces. And until that ideal begins to dissolve in everyone, nobody will ever be truly free.

subwo
subwo
  MrLiberty
November 23, 2020 1:33 pm
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  MrLiberty
November 23, 2020 10:34 pm

Great, but do you and I move or do they move? Land belongs to whoever is willing to kill for it. That is a fact as old as mankind. If we move and make a nice successful enterprise, I am certain the cry bullies will decide it was unfair and that somehow we got the good land and they were screwed etc. No matter where we go, their lack of success will be because somehow we cheated them by our harder work and commitment to excellence.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  MrLiberty
November 24, 2020 2:16 pm

You’re right in principle, but such division will never be allowed to happen, given that it would leave the divided nation and its constituent parts defenseless against a hostile foreign power such as China, waiting with bated breath for such an occurence. Y’all have allowed yourselves to be painted into a corner and the truth is you’re vety unlikely to be able to extricate yoursekves, a sad fact to the detriment of the rest of the world. The “city on the hill” has been blown away by the winds of change.

KaD
KaD
November 23, 2020 12:35 pm
Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  KaD
November 23, 2020 1:45 pm

A third party has NO chance. The media will not allow it.

Damien
Damien
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 2:22 pm

I have worked a few third party campaigns in the past. Dr. Paul in 2012 for one. I have had people literally look in my face and laugh. It’s a hard row to hoe.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Glock-N-Load
November 23, 2020 2:30 pm

Its not just the media (though they certainly play a role). It is also criminal ballot access laws in every state. Check out http://www.ballot-access.org for every bit of information you could ever want on ballot access laws, what parties exist where, etc. Richard Winger has done a superb job of documenting the two-party collusion on the subject. From Gerrymandered “protected” districts to ballot access hurdles, to fully controlled debates, the general population is denied any options in most states, to even hear the ideas of anyone but the two-faced warfare/welfare party. And even within that duopoly, dissenting voices like Ron Paul, Rand Paul and a handful of others, are generally minimized, ridiculed, or simply censored as the need arises. But people are deeply terrified of change, no matter how bad things get. They always hold out hope that somehow, doing the same thing over and over and over, will somehow yield a different outcome.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  MrLiberty
November 23, 2020 2:39 pm

The definition of insanity.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  MrLiberty
November 23, 2020 10:13 pm

And we are fast approaching the time when those Stone Agers will have to be shunned as much as the rioters. They made a hard bed not just for themselves but for all of us.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  MrLiberty
November 24, 2020 4:39 pm

Once upon a time the USA was predicated upon the notion of basic human decency. I remember it well. Now? You decide if that still stands.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  KaD
November 23, 2020 8:02 pm

If a totally reasonable party like AfD (Alternativ fur Deutschland) can’t break 20% in German elections despite the country being inundated with Muslim invaders, there is little hope.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Iska Waran
November 23, 2020 11:27 pm

I think there might actually be a chance with a parliamentary system and proportional representation. Not in our current system for sure. Just look at what UKIP did in a couple of years. In proportional systems, your vote for something different isn’t a wasted vote.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  MrLiberty
November 23, 2020 11:36 pm

I vote for this.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 23, 2020 12:35 pm

The Constitutional Republic is doomed because it’s splitting apart and has been “destined to fall from its inception. This is borne out in the following two passages:

‘And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.'(Matthew 7:26-27)

‘[E]very kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand.’ (Matthew 12:25)

“The house known as the Constitutional Republic was not built upon the rock of Yahweh’s1 word, but instead upon Enlightenment and Masonic concepts.2 It began and continues as a divided house:…

“The day is therefore approaching when the Republic’s cup of iniquity will be full3 and Yahweh’s longsuffering is exhausted. At that time, the Republic will be subjected to His judgment. Like all nations before her built on sand, she will cease to exist. The question that remains is whether that generation’s Christians will be prepared to build upon her ruins. If not, another ungodly nation will fill the void until finally a future generation of our posterity are prepared to erect a government and society upon Yahweh’s righteousness as expressed in His triune moral law (His commandments, statutes, and judgments).4

“It is therefore incumbent upon this and all intervening generations of Christians to do everything in their power to help prepare for that future generation of Christians to do it right(eous) the next time….”

For more, see free online book “A Biblical Constitution: A Scriptural Replacement for Secular Government.”

KaD
KaD
November 23, 2020 12:36 pm

Communists don’t stop. They ARE stopped, or they win. The left won’t let anyone live in peace. So either America is going to break up OR it’s going to have a prolonged, no holds barred bloody civil war until only one side is left standing.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  KaD
November 23, 2020 2:03 pm

You can go ahead and take the first option off the table. You said yourself they don’t stop and won’t stop.

Mark Breza
Mark Breza
November 23, 2020 12:41 pm

Why don’t republicans like Union or Togetherness ?

splurge
splurge
  Mark Breza
November 23, 2020 1:01 pm

Because they understand that most people are assholes and don’t want to have to tolerate them.

Machinist
Machinist
  Mark Breza
November 23, 2020 2:12 pm

Apparently, you are not of the INTJ persuasion.

wildhorses
wildhorses
  Mark Breza
November 23, 2020 6:12 pm

The Independent Class opposes totalitarianism, dictatorships, social corporatism, etc.

Two totalitarianism scenarios are linked.

Here’s how life could change in my city by the year 2030

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/how-life-could-change-2030/?utm_content=buffer31087&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Remorse

Remorse

“Here the (fictitious) historian relates what one or two enthusiasts for totalitarian communism discover when they get it:”

OHMama
OHMama
  Mark Breza
November 23, 2020 6:36 pm

We do. FREE unions, where we are free to associate as we see fit, according to our values,and our needs. What we don’t agree with is FORCED union, being roped into collectivism that does not represent our values, needs or desires.
I am 100% in favor of small businesses, for example, being able to join together and pool their resources to form a health insurance group to benefit all of their employees. That is not currently legal (it should be). I am NOT however, in favor of being told I will join the Obamacare collective with coverage that I cannot afford, for things I do not want, or else.
See the difference?

For a group that is obsessed with harping on no means no and the importance of consent, you sure are hypocritical. But then, if leftists didn’t have double standards, they’d have no standards at all.

DS
DS
  OHMama
November 24, 2020 7:54 pm

And the only choice they want you to have is the choice to murder your own baby

BSHJ
BSHJ
November 23, 2020 1:40 pm

Does he think we should all just get along? I for one do not want to ‘get along’ with the fools, nuts and freaks on the left.

Dirtperson Steve
Dirtperson Steve
November 23, 2020 2:38 pm

I do not understand the negative connotation, “Doomed to Split Apart”

I know many circumstances where the couples were better off after the divorce. Right now fUSA is an amalgam of 300M+ people that when split along many lines don’t like each other very much. D’s and R’s are just doing mop up duty trying to form a coalition of opposite sides for fundraising purposes.

Left to split apart along cultural lines I think the new nations of fUSA would probably get along better than they do now. Secession talk didn’t start with The War of Northern Aggression. The Hartford Convention preceded it by at least 50 years.

Articles of Confederation
Articles of Confederation
  Dirtperson Steve
November 23, 2020 10:16 pm

Great post! Angle-Angle Similarity Postulate. Divorce is similar at all levels and is a tool to be used to solve otherwise dangerously irreconcilable problems.

SUIBNE
SUIBNE
November 23, 2020 3:04 pm

Yes. But it will last ten minutes …..about as long as it will take to round up 100 dem leaders. Arrest them, try them, execute them.. DONE. BACK TO NORMAL. Put this xxfknxx black bigot maxine waters in a hole……One day’s work. Remove 100 dem leaders and their communist dem allies. BACK TO NORMAL. Arres, try, execute them PLEASE, President Trump: DO NOT CONCEDE! DON’T EVEN GO TO THE INAUGURATION. They have successfully stolen the Presidency and are traitors. Now we will have one real President, YOU, and one fake, the fk mutt biden and his socialist black bigot vice president kamullah, and the clown vagina dentata pelosi. You have a country already willing to follow your lead no matter what the media says. God Bless President Donald Trump and and God Bless the America that believes in God.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
November 23, 2020 3:18 pm

HTFAST: Hoist the flag and slit throats.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 23, 2020 3:31 pm

“Is America Doomed to Split Apart?”

if crashing and burning is “splitting apart” ….

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
November 23, 2020 3:34 pm

The elite will never allow the producers of the country to secede. They would rather kill us all than to let us live free of their diktats.

Machinist
Machinist
  TN Patriot
November 23, 2020 3:43 pm

That sounds familiar.

OHMama
OHMama
November 23, 2020 6:11 pm

It would be stupid to split up. Much smarter course is to blockade and starve the cities. That’s where all the trouble comes from.

Done and Gone
Done and Gone
  OHMama
November 23, 2020 10:01 pm

Won’t work. These are not landlocked states. They can import anything they need, and they certainly have the dough to do it. Split-up is the only good option left (along with many bad ones).

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  Done and Gone
November 23, 2020 10:48 pm

Fiat issued by a blockaded government that can’t feed itself won’t work. The Gold they may have won’t last forever either. You guys with shares of GLD-that is the Gold they would be using.
The envirowhackos have made sure there is no oil production or pipelines for the most part in these areas. They could start it I imagine but that’s one more obstacle. They might try LNG and I believe they do use it in Massachusetts. One .50BMG Raufus round would lay waste to entire cities if fired at an LNG tanker. Super dangerous stuff.

DaddyJo
DaddyJo
  Done and Gone
November 24, 2020 4:38 pm

Join the discussion…Can they import water? How about electricity? Natgas? Fuel, coal, and grain from overseas? What about fire extinguishers?

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 23, 2020 6:32 pm

Problem is, the Leftists won’t read this opinion.
Other problem is the Left is better organized.
The back-stabbing Reps. such as Wimmer, et al need to be removed and flush the toilet of all the Republican, back-stabbers and corrupt Cling-ons.
Personally I won’t be satisfied until I see ALL of the traitors publicly hanged. About 80 million of We the People need to see REAL justice.

OHMama
OHMama
  Anonymous
November 23, 2020 7:11 pm

I’ve done a bunch of research on narcissism, and I think that the left fits into that diagnosis. Based on what I’ve read and learned, narcs and their flying monkeys (sycophant enablers and supporters) will, if it is suits their individual desires, join together against a common enemy. One the enemy is defeated, however, their condition manifests itself…it can never be buried for long…and they turn on each other spectacularly. Snake eating its own tail kind of thing.
The left is well organized, yes, but only temporarily. If pressure was applied at the correct points, they would easily be splintered and turned on each other. It’s a very distinctive personality disorder with very, very predictable behaviors, once understood, it can be weaponized against them.
A narc is a classic NPC, non-playable character. Very little scope for innovation or individual thought, with a very limited set of moves and behaviors. They SEEM unpredictable, until you learn their rules, and then you can predict what they’ll do pretty accurately and counter accordingly. It just takes nerves of steel to do so, because they are nuts, and act nuts, and are very, very loud, vindictive and horrible when opposed.

Montefrío
Montefrío
  OHMama
November 24, 2020 5:01 pm

Your point of view from the standpoint of reasearch is worthy of consideration, but experience must be added, and experience tends to negate your belief with respect to tail eating. I’ve worked with such people, might even have had a bit of that pathology myself, but when push comes to shove, predators put their first priority as consuming prey. Infighting might come later, might not, depending on availability of more prey. If you’ve not read the book or seen the well-done movie, I strongly recommend Cormac McCarthy’s No Country for Old Men. Great depiction of the world in which we now live, written 15 years ago. As we down South understand well, the prevailing personal stance vis a vis the world boils down to vale todo, as in “anything goes”. Viva yo, “Long live I” isn’t far off either. Narcissism is no longer a disorder, it’s a way of life for far too many.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  Anonymous
November 23, 2020 10:55 pm

Half of the Senate Republicans are unreliable.

Zulu Foxtrot Golf
Zulu Foxtrot Golf
  Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
November 24, 2020 2:36 pm

More like 85%

Done and Gone
Done and Gone
November 23, 2020 7:55 pm

“We are not retreating, this is our country”
That’s completely delusional. I guess this is what Boers of South Africa kept telling themselves, and probably still do. But something called “demographic change” has its own opinion on the subject.
Whites of non-hispanic variety are dying out, being substituted by blacks and browns. That’s why US politics are becoming so lawless. Because it’s getting more black and brown too.
Biden is about to triple legal immigration to 3 million per annum. And people that will be coming in – almost all black and brown – hate whites with passion.
If we don’t split America, then we will simply be pushed to the margins of society first, then robbed and even killed.
Splitting USA – and then hermetically sealing conservative portion from liberal hellhole – is the only viable portion remaining. There is no keeping it all. That possibility is gone for a very long time, most likely forever.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 23, 2020 9:21 pm

Trump administration grants permission to begin the transition process to President-elect Joe Biden

https://twitter.com/i/events/1331014582899339264

Just like that, it’s over.

Everyone can stop yapping about stolen elections and election fraud.
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FTN 357: Cope Copier Go Brrr

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Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  Anonymous
November 23, 2020 11:01 pm

Beginning to “discuss initial protocols” is a fancy way to string them along. For now.

Louis
Louis
November 23, 2020 11:29 pm

to split apart the republicans would need to grow some balls. The dems have balls (antifa etc) to fight for their cause. The republicans sit back and watch, complain, vent their spleen on various comment boards and that’s it. So nothing will happen. Amen

DS
DS
  Louis
November 24, 2020 8:10 pm

Sorry bro, antifa thugs don’t have balls — what they have is emotionally manipulated anger, Soros money, and CIA/FBI direction and cover…

aspnaz
aspnaz
November 24, 2020 6:38 am

I am not an American, I am a British expat living in Hong Kong, but I am interested to know what Trump supporters (I am one) think of Trump’s political allies-of-convenience.

I read an opinion piece on American Conservative that was suggesting they dump Trump. I was surprised by this. From my reading I consider the majority of Trump supporters to be very different to conservatives but i assumed that there were some fundamentals, mostly based on national pride but mostly love of country, lifestyle and values that you guys have in common. Values are important, they will keep your marriage going for life! Sorry, I digress.

On conservatives dumping Trump:
Wow, in such a partisan time, only the conservatives would dump their biggest ever voter base for … what? Conservatives have arrogantly used their self perceived superiority to excuse their absolute lethargy and plain abandonment of the USA. What is clear is that conservatives are not willing to put up a fight for their country, they have no absolutes. They will compromise forever and no doubt the “Dump Trump” movement will be slightly less contemptible than Satans Dream Team, headed by Biden.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  aspnaz
November 24, 2020 6:01 pm

It’s the gayness.
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Trump and everything he touches turns gay and turns to shit.
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Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  aspnaz
November 24, 2020 8:42 pm

aspnaz, Trump supporters are Nationalist Populists. I would support formally making it a party using that name.

EWM
EWM
November 24, 2020 9:09 am

Both sides:

There are two types of people in this world. The type who wants to be left alone and the type who won’t leave people alone.

Scot
Scot
November 24, 2020 9:57 am

I certainly hope so. Our country has been toppled. We either bend the knee or take it back. But it looks like we no longer have the fortitude of our founders.

Jai Seli
Jai Seli
November 24, 2020 10:01 am

Could not get past the article heading – pornographic image was to revolting to continue!

swrichmond
swrichmond
November 24, 2020 10:51 am

“Our principles need to stop being a blind commitment…”

This. Time to fight to win.

Montefrío
Montefrío
November 24, 2020 12:19 pm

Kurt is a book-flogging blowhard who has yet to real-world demonstrate that he is personally comitted to a genuine battle. Yes, his bloviations are spot on in many senses, but there remain the “talk the talk but walk the walk” realities. How many will join him in carrying out that of which he writes? That’s the genuinhe bottom line, folks.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Montefrío
November 24, 2020 5:56 pm

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Montefrío
Montefrío
  Anonymous
November 24, 2020 6:16 pm

Please explain. Forgive me, but I fail to see the relevance. TP is more valuable that HRC’s nonsense: what a surprise! TP hoarders are in the know! Man those hoarders are sharp! Jesus wept! Is this the best the brave, brave men of the right have to offer? Snickering time is over. You’re in a time in which all the marbles are now in play. Ignore that simple fact and perish with a whimper, but know that this is now a no-win game in which y’all are at a tremendous disadvantage. A broken USA is prey, as others understand well. I suspect y’all have waited too long to act in a way that will preserve the nation as once it was. I truly hope I’m wrong.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  Montefrío
November 24, 2020 8:45 pm

Never confuse the unserious cabron .22 WinMag with a brave man of the right.

Hope@ZeroKelvin -Proud Deplorable
Hope@ZeroKelvin -Proud Deplorable
November 24, 2020 1:27 pm

There is no Mason-Dixon line.

It will be urban versus suburban/rural, red county versus blue county, house to house, family members against family members.

I don’t see it as a split, more of a dissolution into anarchy.

“The arc of history does not bend towards justice. It bends towards chaos.”

(Me.)

Guest
Guest
November 24, 2020 2:49 pm

Well I might not mind but maybe folks could first just quit wearing masks and complying with the rest. Then I might believe this and shoot em up talk.
This topic seems to me to be more propaganda to distract and create more chaos (which I hope I don’t need to say is an old ploy).

yahright
yahright
November 24, 2020 3:58 pm

I read that John Kerry is going to be a climate czar. I can already feel the price of things rising just reading that. Imagine the crazy laws and stuff that are coming. Remember what gas costs right now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 24, 2020 7:15 pm

‘Who is the millennial who will die for the “right” to have his student loan paid off or to be addressed as “xir”?’
They don’t exist because they don’t have to. The government will do the heavy lifting for them and they know it. Look at antifa and the support / protection they get.
Keep in mind diversity, ‘white privilege’, trannies, ‘xirians’, all the degenerate nonsense is official government policy.
Patriotic and nationalistic White, hetro males are the new terrorists – and if they’re ‘covid sceptics’, holocaust denying bio-hazards to boot.

Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
Harrington Richardson-M2, It's A Ball!
  Anonymous
November 24, 2020 8:47 pm

If you are going to be treated as one you may as well act like one. Let’s start by beating the living shit out of random lib looking people. Ten against one with red town cops “standing down.” Hmmmmm?

Chemist46
Chemist46
November 25, 2020 7:28 am

Want to know what is really going on?
Read this!

America’s Economy Cannot Survive Another Lockdown, and the Cult of the Reset Knows It

ReluctantWarrior
ReluctantWarrior
November 25, 2020 7:56 am

Humanity needs to get off its knees!

ML
ML
November 28, 2020 4:04 pm

AMERICA IS DOOMED PERIOD…AND…THE WORLD LEADERS AT THE TOP KNOW IT, AND HAVE OR WILL BE CONTEMPLATING THEIR PLACES OF EXILE. AMERICA IS BABYLON PROPHECIED TO BE DESTROYED BY THE TEN HORNS. HER DESTRUCTION WILL COME DURING WWIII IN WHICH MANY COUNTRIES WILL BE OVERTHROWN. BEFORE AND BY THE TIME SHE REACH THE TIME OF HER FINAL JUDGEMENT….TWO….MAJOR PROPHECIES MUST AND WILL BE FULFILLED. I) AMERICA MUST CAUSE THE LAST NATION ON EARTH TO DRINK OF THE WINE OF THE WRATH OF HER FORNICATION WHICH IS TO SAY TO CAUSE ALL NATIONS TO BCOME JUST LIKE HER WHICH IS TO SAY TO CAUSE ALL NATIONS TO ADOPT A DEMONOCRACY (SATANS GOVERNMENT) OR SOME FORM OF IT BY ANY MEANS NESCESSARY. AFTER THE LAST NATIONS FALLS AND WE’RE ALMOST THERE THE TIME ALLOWED FOR HER EXISTENCE WILL BE COMPLETE AND HER JUDGEMENT AT HAND. 2) A MAJOR EXODUS OF THE PEOPLE OF THE MOST HIGH BOTH JEW AND GENTILE MUST COMMENSE. THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF THE RULING GENTILE NATIONS KNOW THIS AND HAVE PLANED TO STOP THE EXODUS WHICH CAN NOT AND WILL NOT BE SUCCESSFUL.
AFTER THE DESTRUCTION OF BABYLON THE BEAST WORKING WITH THE FALSE PROPHET WILL CHANGE WORLD ECONOMICS INTO WHAT THE WORLD HAS NEVER SEEN OR EXPERIENCED BRINGING IN THE MARK OF THE BEAST THE NAME OF THE BEAST THE NUMBER OF HIS NAME AND THE WORSHIP OF THE BEAST. THIS AND MORE WILL BE IN PLACE DURING AND AFTER WWIII A TIME OF TROUBLE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN SINCE THERE WAS A NATION ON THE EARTH.

TO THE UNSAVED, REPENT AND ACCEPT YAHUSHUA HAMASHIACH JESUS THE CHRIST AS LORD AND SAVIOR AS IT IS YOUR ONLY HOPE, NOT ONLY YOUR ONLY HOPE TO ESCAPE THE WRATH OF THE MOST HIGH BUT ALSO YOUR HOPEFUL TICKET TO CONTINUE LIVING AFTER YOU HAVE LEFT YOUR BODY…..AND…..YOU ARE GOING TO LEAVE, “THATS A FACT” ONCE YOU REACH THE OTHER SIDE YOU WONT BE ALLOWED TO CHOOSE WHERE YOU WANT TO LIVE AND YOU WILL HAVE TO LIVE SOME WHERE, THATS A FACT. THEY WILL PUT YOU WHERE YOU BELONG. NEGATIVE ENERGY IS NEVER STORED WHERE POSITVE ENERGY IS STORED. THE SAME GOES FOR THE REAL YOU LIVING INSIDE THE FLESH BODY YOU NOW ARE USING.

BEFORE THE ENDTIME PROPHECIES BEGIN, THE UNFOLDING OF TWEENTY-ONE JUDGEMENTS. THE WORLD WILL BE INTRODUCED TO THE ENDTIME SERVANTS OF THE MOST HIGH WHO WILL IN FORM THE WORLD OF EACH JUDGEMENT BEFORE IT IS FULFILLED….NOT ONLY THAT…..THEY WILL IN FORM THE WORLD WHERE EACH JUDGEMENT WILL BE FULFUILLED IN ADVANCE….NOT ONLY THAT….THEY WILL INFORM THE WORLD FOR HOW LONG THE JUDGEMENT WILL LAST…..ALL IN ADVANCE.

THE MOST HIGH WILL LEAVE THE UNSAVED WORLD NO EXCUSE FOR NOT “REPENTING”

THOSE WHO HAVE EARS TO HERE….LET THEM HERE!
SHALOM
ML