Op-Ed in my local paper this morning. Planned Parenthood gets $363 million of our tax dollars and aborts 324,000 babies per year. That is $1,120 per abortion. I wonder what their profit margin is? As someone who believes abortion is murder, why should the STATE take my tax dollars to murder innocent babies? If it is legal to murder babies, the murderers should pay for it themselves. Isn’t that reasonable?
I’ve posted welfare and abortion articles this morning. That should keep it interesting on the site today. I can work on my article while the vitriol commences.
We need to defend the unborn
By Claude Mininger
Where is the money?
Planned Parenthood, according to numerous reports, received hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars, your hard-earned money and mine, and now apparently can’t account for it, according to a Washington Times story about a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report.
Millions of dollars missing at a time when every penny counts.
Yet, something else is missing, something far worse. Not just millions of dollars, but more than 1.4 million babies killed by Planned Parenthood abortions between 2002 and 2008.
These children are missing. They had no choice in the so-called “pro-choice” scenario. They were forever silenced.
It is a shame to this nation to allow abortion to continue killing babies, when our heavenly father “first designed and created man in his own imagine, in the image of God created he him” (Genesis 1:27).
Planned Parenthood’s abortion business is so extensive, according to researcher and author Sam Kastensmidt, that it is the third leading cause of death in the United States, more deadly then leukemia, brain cancer, skin cancer, diabetes, car accidents, Alzheimer’s and HIV/AIDs combined.
If you were to make a map of the United States and darken the states from Idaho to Arizona to Arkansas to Wisconsin, you would have “no life” in these 17 mid-western and western states since Roe vs. Wade went into effect in 1973 with the abortion of 53 million lives.
President Barack Obama does not seem to understand the magnitude of the tragedy. If he did, he surely would not have become the most pro-abortion president in history.
Now the president no longer has a solid majority of support on Capitol Hill for death-embracing policies.
This opens a window of opportunity for us to stand together and demand the accountability and defunding of Planned Parenthood.
What was not possible months ago is now possible because of the core of pro-life conservatives now in Congress.
The Lord has worked through conservative voters to change the congressional landscape, and you and I were part of this.
Now we truly have the potential to defend the unborn and make an impact to preserve the sanctity of life, preserve the lives of innocent babies, when we work and pray together and call on pro-life members of Congress to speak out.
Our new speaker of the House, John Boehner, said there is “no cause more noble than the defense of human life.”
He is the most pro-life speaker since the Supreme Court’s 1973 decision in Roe vs. Wade legalized abortion.
He is not alone on Capitol Hill. Last November a majority of Americans chose life as one of the country’s values.
The conservative surge brings as many as 246 pro-life lawmakers to the House.
The new pro-life majority includes a net gain of about 45 seats for the movement.
The number of women in the House who are now pro-life increased by 70 percent while the number of pro-abortion women in the House declined by 16 percent.
In 2008 and 2009, Planned Parenthood received more than $363 million in government grants while performing 324,000 abortions.
One more election could make a big difference in the Senate.
In 2012, 23 Democrats and just 10 Republican senators are up for re-election. Pro-life groups will remind those lawmakers that 15 out of 20 pro-life House Democrats who voted for the healthcare bill lost their jobs in 2010.
This is a warning to the liberal Democrats in the Senate.
If you vote for taxpayer-funded abortions “you should be prepared to lose you next election.”
Claude Mininger is a resident of Souderton.
eugend66 says:
Pro-life also means being smart. If enslavement is the ultimate goal, then
they should Eat Shit until life comes to an end.
“If you vote for taxpayer-funded abortions “you should be prepared to lose you next election.”
Claude M EATS SHIT.
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bluestem says:
I guess Planned Parenhood is trying to eliminate the bottom 20% by using even more tax money? Somthing doesn’t seem right here, does it? John
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26th February 2011 at 10:16 am
StuckInNJ says:
The moral aspect of abortion is a whole ‘nuther story. I’m not in the mood to rehash those arguments. I am only speaking to the economics, since you are concerned about $1,120 of your tax money.
$1,120 per abortion vs. a LIFETIME of SNAP, welfare, and other free ship totaling tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars. From an ECONOMIC standpoint ONLY — that seems like a good tradeoff.
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26th February 2011 at 10:27 am
eugend66 says:
Emm, usr not logged in…
MY bad .. .
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26th February 2011 at 10:30 am
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Stuck
How theoretical and deep thinking of you.
20 Weeks
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26th February 2011 at 10:32 am
Administrator says:
Maybe we should euthanize the 30 Blocks of Squalor if it is about money.
12 Weeks
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Bill Hicks says:
Wish it was TEN TIMES that amount. Then maybe the 30 Blocks of Squalor would not exist and there would still be enough food in the world to keep people from starving.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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26th February 2011 at 10:58 am
StuckInNJ says:
I greatly enjoyed your smart ass comments. Keep ‘em coming.
As I said, I am keeping my personal opionions about abortion out of it. You have NO idea where I stand on abortion …. so go ahead and keep posting unborn baby pics. I have no idea what the hell you are hoping to accomplish.
It is you ….. YOU!!!! …. who brought up abortion AND your hard earned tax money. Not me!!
So, let’s stay on focus and just keep the argument about money. You are upset if a 15 year old black teenager gets an abortion … even though she has no job, no education, and practically no realistic chances of a decent economic life for herself or her child. Have the child!! Then that kid grows up in the 16 blocks of squalor. Another faceless gangbanger. Then you will without a doubt snap some pictures of him on your way to work and complain what a fucking loser he is for being part of the Free Shit Army. Rather inconsistent, no?
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26th February 2011 at 11:04 am
hugh betcha says:
the biggest failing in human society in these politically correct times is the reality that everything conceived or born is supposed to live out it’s life.
humans want to disconnect from nature and declare themselves “special” as the next 20 years will prove: we are not.
jim sez he’s against abortion. well i am too but i am more against severely retarded drooling lumps destroying families by forcing them to live as long as possible at any expense. i am against keeping dieing people alive for another day at any expense. i am against forcing the free shit army inept population from expanding even against their own wishes. i am against forcing babies into a world where their parents don’t want them and will likely resent them and as a result damage them and create more useless eaters.
how do i resolve being against both abortion and forcing these babies to be born? i observe nature. i believe nature has solved the problem in the only way it can be solved. not everything conceived or born is meant to survive.
putting ourselves above nature sure makes one feel special. but we are not special. the proof is in the data, the proof is in the lives of those who cannot take care of themselves. the proof is in the wasted resources maintaining a large number of people unable to contribute.
nature does not care about the individual, she pumps out enough individuals so that the numbers work. some die, some live, many are born it seems only to be food for something else. even humans are food for other of natures creatures, worms, flys etc… we all die and we all return to the earth.
we are leaving the era of free energy that allowed us to ignore nature and view ourselves as above it’s rules. ask re: will deformed human babies be “exposed” as newborns in coming years because the “tribal” community knows it can ill afford to maintain them? i say yes they will. is it sad? yes.
what is the lesser of two evils, destroying the community of the tribe or letting the unsustainable go?
forcing babies to live even when unwanted or deformed is the sin here not the abortions. Jim will probably gladly pay to support them even if it’s not with higher taxes. he’ll put money in an envelope and mail it to some free army useless eater so they can feed their baby. he’ll be upset to learn that the baby didn’t get fed to well but the parents were able to keep their satalite tv bill paid via his largess.
reality sez this is so. you can deny reality all you want but that won’t change anything.
answer this: why do catholic priests fuck little boys in the ass? they do it because their is no risk of making babies but they still get their rocks off. catholic priests have solved the problem for themselves. the downside of course still exists in badly damaged boys who grow up to be badly damaged adults. but hey…. for the priests it’s better then having little girls show up in church with babies in tow.
it’s time for everyone to face some realities and the top realities include human populations and their collective usefulness to the group. the choice will become one of abortion or exposure. which of those would you elect for yourself? kill the fetus as early as possible or expose a baby on a cold hillside out of sight so you don’t have to watch?
will the tribal community continue to support the girls who continue to reproduce out of turn or will those girls be forced to leave the community and fend for themselves? once fending for themselves will these girls continue to reproduce?
reality is ugly, but it is real.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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26th February 2011 at 11:12 am
Administrator says:
Bill
What if your mommy felt the same way? Are people starving in the US? Your response is pure bullshit.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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26th February 2011 at 11:21 am
Administrator says:
Not inconsistent at all. Personal responsibility Stucky.
Money shouldn’t be shoveled at the poor to stay dependent on the State.
Money should not be provided by me to murder the result of their lack of personal responsibility.
Murder of unborn babies is not personal responsibility.
I suggest you watch the Thomas Sowell video until it sinks into your thick skull.
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26th February 2011 at 11:25 am
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Hugh
Learn how to use the Caps button and make a point that anyone can understand.
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26th February 2011 at 11:30 am
eugend66 says:
There are PILLS on the market, WTF !
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26th February 2011 at 11:41 am
StuckInNJ says:
My thick skull enjoys Thomas Sowell very much.
My thick skull is one million percent against using tax dollars for abortions!! Why the fuck should I have to pay for some irresponsible bitch and her equally irresponsible cocksucker sperm doner??
The bitch (and her family who raised her) , the cocksucker (and his family who raised him), the State (fucking thieves who believe my money belongs to them) …. they are ALL irresponsible pieces of shit. We certainly agree on that.
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26th February 2011 at 11:53 am
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Stuck
Now we’re getting somewhere. This isn’t like the old days. We’d work each other into a lathering frenzy until we collapsed in exhaustion.
After reading Sowell, it seems like this is part of a master plan by those with the extreme wealth. They control the banks and Federal Reserve. They control the politicians and the media. The whole welfare state mentality is to keep the ignorant masses sedated. The Republican and Democratic parties are nothing more than vehicles to keep everyone distracted from the looting and pillaging of the working middle class.
The wealthy elite get wealthier. The people on the 30 blocks of squalor becomes more dependent on the government. The middle class gets screwed.
The only solution would be for the wealthy elite to be stripped of their power and the people on the 30 blocks stripped of their welfare dependency payments. It would take a revolution or a complete collapse of our financial system for this to occur.
I think that is what will happen eventually.
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26th February 2011 at 12:07 pm
Welshman says:
I am pro-choice, but I see no reason for the gov’t to pay for abortions. There are so many ways of preventing PG, and 1200. isn’t a prohibitive amount to pay. Abortions should be safe, legal, and rare .
My son was adopted through an open adoption, and his situation could have gone the opposite way. We love him like he is our own, even though he suffers like Stuck’s son with the Prince Syndrome and Sorritus.LOL. Working at the Homeless Shelter has done wonders for his conditions.
Stuck makes a point as to the cost effectiveness of abortions, BUT it seems there are a lot of people out there to adopt unwanted babies.
Whether unborn, premies, or old, rationed health care is coming to a hospital near you, deal with it.
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26th February 2011 at 12:24 pm
Smokey says:
hugh betcha,
You say you are against severely retarded drooling lumps. Reality contradicts your statement.
If the statement was true, you’d have committed suicide long ago.
Hot debate. What do you think?
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26th February 2011 at 12:26 pm
Smokey says:
And once again Stuck can’t resist the opportunity to show the world what an irrational fool he is.
Never an article that Stuck isn’t a world class expert on.
PLEASE PLEASE thumb up my comments people. I’m StuckInNJ, and those thumb ups drive my shallow existence.
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26th February 2011 at 12:31 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Jim, I was kind and gracious towards you becasue I CAN’T afford any more enemies. Smokey said I am his lifetime enemy that not even a blowjob will cure. I lost Top Dog status with llpoh. sss says he doesn’t hate me, but I know he does. Punk gives me backhanded jabs constantly. howard never ever talks to me. It’s rough out there I tell ya. Rough.
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26th February 2011 at 12:34 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Smokey, at this point you are more obsessed with me than you are RE. I’m getting even more attention from you than you give you supposedly massive Hand Warmer. I’m becoming a little uncomfortable with your man-love crush. Buy a fuckin plastic doll, will ya?
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26th February 2011 at 12:39 pm
Smokey says:
Stuck,
You’re the only one that fights back.
Who the fuck am I supposed to torch ?
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26th February 2011 at 12:52 pm
Administrator says:
Stuck – The Rodney Dangerfield of TBP
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26th February 2011 at 12:56 pm
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Smokey
Should I allow DP posting priveleges and do a 9/11 thread to get things going around here?
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26th February 2011 at 1:02 pm
howard in nyc says:
yeah. welfare. abortion. mezkin immigration. there definitely is not enough raw meat scattered about to get things going this weekend. better throw some 9/11 into the mix.
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26th February 2011 at 1:18 pm
StuckInNJ says:
I dunno Smokey … that FRED FLINSTONE guy fought back pretty hard. Of course, it was truly a lame assed effort not even worth of mention. Seems like you scared his ass off for good. Well done .. but yet another person who won’t be clicking on the google ads …. which right now has a “Pregnant & Worried” ad … and while I may be a pussy according to you, I’m just not gonna click on it.
Jim, I don’t like the idea of DP posting here. Just my opinion. I truly hate that fucker.
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26th February 2011 at 1:22 pm
Surly1 says:
Troublesome thread.
Every one of you presumable male so-and-sos assume that it is your right to decide what a woman does with her uterus. It has always amazed me that the social policies of abortion opponents are thus: the state has a prevailing interest in having you bring your pregnancy to term; once you become pregnant, you no longer are in control of your own body, but must give birth. Then, having done so, you’re on your own. Good luck and don’t expect us to help.
Well and good. But if you are looking at this purely in economic terms, Stuck has outlined the alternatives quite succinctly: ” $1,120 per abortion vs. a LIFETIME of SNAP, welfare, and other free ship totaling tens, if not hundreds of thousands of dollars. From an ECONOMIC standpoint ONLY — that seems like a good tradeoff.”
So it’s really not about Planned Parenthood and the money. It’s about putting the little woman in her place. Consider the endgame– Margaret Atwood was a prophet.
@Admin: With this, at least something with which I can agree: “. . . part of a master plan by those with the extreme wealth. They control the banks and Federal Reserve. They control the politicians and the media. The whole welfare state mentality is to keep the ignorant masses sedated. The Republican and Democratic parties are nothing more than vehicles to keep everyone distracted from the looting and pillaging of the working middle class. ” As long as you can keep the Fox-geezer-syndrome crowd yelling at theirs Teevees, they won’t come looking for the elites.
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26th February 2011 at 1:27 pm
Smokey says:
Surly 1,
I guess a blowjob’s out of the question.
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26th February 2011 at 1:31 pm
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Surly
Personal responsibility applies to men and women. Your answer is feminism bullshit.
Murdering a baby because of your irresponsibility is utter bullshit and has nothing to do with a woman’s body.
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26th February 2011 at 1:33 pm
Smokey says:
Administrator,
9/11 thread ONLY if you can participate in the bashing.
If you need to work on your Casey paper, then my vote for 9/11 thread is for some other time when you can go all in.
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26th February 2011 at 1:34 pm
Administrator says:
Are the most vitriolic feminists that way because they couldn’t get a date on a Saturday night?
Margaret Atwood as example #1
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26th February 2011 at 1:38 pm
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Smokey
I’ve completely ignored my own plan for the weekend. I posted such inflaming subject matter that I can’t pull myself away to write the article. I’ve got the 1st paragraph done.
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26th February 2011 at 1:40 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Smokey, did you notice that Surly1 said I am “succinct”? Are you jealous?
Jim, please add a “Succinct” choice right next to the “Like or Dislike”. I’m pretty sure I can corner that market as well. Then Smokey can add “succinct whore” to my well-endowed list of qualifications.
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26th February 2011 at 1:42 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Margaret Atwood’s hair looks like it’s covered with Smokey’s Sticky Juice.
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26th February 2011 at 1:44 pm
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YIKES!!!
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26th February 2011 at 1:44 pm
MuckAbout says:
Yep… Abortion, religion, sex and politics, all good subjects to allow you to sit back and enjoyably write a piece for Doug… Serves you right for not planning ahead and posting articles that have no worthwhile content.
(and I’m not stepping in this pile of shit either)
MA
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26th February 2011 at 1:52 pm
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Muck
Nice of you to wake up at noon and join the fray.
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26th February 2011 at 1:59 pm
Surly1 says:
Admin, your response is bullshit. Ad hominem bullshit as well.
If every abortion is “murdering a baby, ” then life begins at conception, right? (Pre-natal citizens?) Then not much of a leap to hold, as the Church does, that every sperm is thus sacred, the logical result of which is to make every boy above the age of 13 guilty of being a serial mass murderer.
The ethical giants on this board are not likely to sort this issue out this afternoon, but abortion (which, just for the record, I personally oppose) makes for a delightful wedge issue.
And Smokester, I am reasonably sure you wouldn’t want a blow job from the likes of me.
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26th February 2011 at 2:11 pm
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Surly
Ad hominem = Personal Responsibility
Your not a big fan of taking responsibility for your actions?
Nice bullshit about 13 year old boys jerking off. That surely isn’t a human being sucking their thumb at 20 weeks.
Wedge this issue up your ass.
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26th February 2011 at 2:22 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Surly1 said —–> “And Smokester, I am reasonably sure you wouldn’t want a blow job from the likes of me.”
Shit, he’d take one from me!
So, even if you are 6’7″, 270 pounds, have hairy legs and a mustache … I’m still pretty sure you’re good to go. He even like gum jobs, in case you have dentures.
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26th February 2011 at 3:09 pm
StuckInNJ says:
“That surely isn’t a human being sucking their thumb at 20 weeks. Wedge this issue up your ass.”
Jimmie, my boy, NOW is the time to unleash hell.
Where’s the popcorn?
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26th February 2011 at 3:11 pm
ragman says:
Surly: please tell us when “life” begins if not at conception. What is growing in the mother’s womb? Is it a pig, a horse, or possibly a dog? It IS all about money. Would “planned infanticide” do these “procedures” for free? I think not! Would these butchers that call themselves “doctors” do this for free? Of course not! Take all of the public money out of the abortion industry and let’s see what happens.
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26th February 2011 at 3:53 pm
Dave says:
Jim says:”
That is $1,120 per abortion. I wonder what their profit margin is? As someone who believes abortion is murder, why should the STATE take my tax dollars to murder innocent babies? If it is legal to murder babies, the murderers should pay for it themselves. Isn’t that reasonable?”
Jesus Christ, a couple gross of condoms is less than that.
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26th February 2011 at 4:20 pm
Dave says:
And if you use them like Smokey does, that’ll last five lifetimes.
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26th February 2011 at 4:21 pm
Smokey says:
Last longer than five lifetimes. I don’t use them.
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26th February 2011 at 4:24 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Smokey; “Last longer than five lifetimes. I don’t use them.”
That’s the best case FOR abortion that I’ve ever heard.
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26th February 2011 at 4:36 pm
Surly1 says:
“Ad hominem” means to attack the man rather than the issue, which you might have learned had you finished reform school.
Used in reference to your loading an unattractive picture of Margaret Atwood as evidence to indict feminism, abortion, all of the moral and ethical issues addressed in “A Handmaid’s Tale,” etc.
Back to your bukkake videos.
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26th February 2011 at 5:29 pm
StuckInNJ says:
If the Church considers each sperm “sacred” and spilling them a sin equivalent with murder, then what is their stance on the monthly eggs that don’t get fertilized and go out with the menses? Neither a single sperm nor an egg constitute a human being. But who cares? That is not the argument. An embryo containing 26 human autosomes and 2 human sex chromosomes is either a human being, or it is not. You either come down on the side that life begins at conception and thus all life is sacred, OR, you come down on the side that there are “degrees” of human-ness, and that some kinds of humans are more valuable than others.
Gee, I think that the National Socialist Party in Germany had some very definite ideas about the relative worth of different “degrees” of human….
But hey! An unborn baby in your uterus did not just drop in there courtesy of the stork. It takes TWO to tangle, here. For all those feministas that scream “Keep your macho mitts off my uterus!”, my response is “Take some freaking responsibility when you have sex to avoid conception!”, and “Don’t have sex with the first guy you see!”.
Geez lueez, this is the FIRST time in human history we have been able to control our fertility. Except for rape and incest, there really should never be an “unintended pregnancy”. You are either responsible about your body or you are not, period, end of story, full stop.
And WTF with 15 yo girl needing an abortion? Whomever impregnated that girl is guilty of statutory RAPE and needs to be in prison. (And unmanned while being beaten to an inch of his miserable life, but that’s just me.) So an abortion can be used to coverup a horrible crime like rape and incest?
Always choose life, that’s my advice.
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26th February 2011 at 5:31 pm
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
Yikes, this computer did it AGAIN. The above post was NOT StuckInNJ, it is from me, H@ZK.
I don’t know how that happened.
But here goes:
If the Church considers each sperm “sacred” and spilling them a sin equivalent with murder, then what is their stance on the monthly eggs that don’t get fertilized and go out with the menses? Neither a single sperm nor an egg constitute a human being. But who cares? That is not the argument. An embryo containing 26 human autosomes and 2 human sex chromosomes is either a human being, or it is not. You either come down on the side that life begins at conception and thus all life is sacred, OR, you come down on the side that there are “degrees” of human-ness, and that some kinds of humans are more valuable than others.
Gee, I think that the National Socialist Party in Germany had some very definite ideas about the relative worth of different “degrees” of human….
But hey! An unborn baby in your uterus did not just drop in there courtesy of the stork. It takes TWO to tangle, here. For all those feministas that scream “Keep your macho mitts off my uterus!”, my response is “Take some freaking responsibility when you have sex to avoid conception!”, and “Don’t have sex with the first guy you see!”.
Geez lueez, this is the FIRST time in human history we have been able to control our fertility. Except for rape and incest, there really should never be an “unintended pregnancy”. You are either responsible about your body or you are not, period, end of story, full stop.
And WTF with 15 yo girl needing an abortion? Whomever impregnated that girl is guilty of statutory RAPE and needs to be in prison. (And unmanned while being beaten to an inch of his miserable life, but that’s just me.) So an abortion can be used to coverup a horrible crime like rape and incest?
Always choose life, that’s my advice.
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26th February 2011 at 5:36 pm
Administrator says:
Surly
I know what it means you douchebag. Just trying to get you surlier. Looks like it worked.
Was Mangy Margaret your lover?
That was the best picture I could find of Maggie.
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26th February 2011 at 5:37 pm
StuckInNJ says:
OK, Hope … stop it.
But most regulars here know that couldn’t be my post because I NEVER in a million years would sway something like, “Geez lueez”. Corny!! I would say instead, “Fuckity Fuck Fuck”.
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26th February 2011 at 5:44 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
How many times have all these Abortion arguments been rehashed already?
The problem here is economic. As JimQ indicates, why should he have to pay $1120 per abortion out of his tax money? Why pay for this when we can just let the kids starve for free?
While you are at it folks, how about somebody here starts a thread about the Immorality of War?
RE
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26th February 2011 at 5:50 pm
tbone says:
okay i’m jumpin in
A women’s choice is a bad phrase, here’s why:
Guy meets girl in club, next thing he knows he is a baby daddy and paying for the next 18 years to the mother of his child whom he could not pick out of a line-up because he was trashed
Couple married 15 years, wife is going to have a baby, daddy is elated, however the baby does not fit into the prospective mother’s plans for whatever reason, baby is vaccuumed out
Where is the man’s choice in these situation.
I believe every child is a unique human that deseves the right to life……I just wish we were a more responsible society, this situation is a major factor in our unraveling.
We have trivialized parenthood and it’s awesome responsibilties, to say it’s a choice.
Maybe I’m nuts
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26th February 2011 at 5:52 pm
tbone says:
sorry about typos
trying to make a living at same time
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26th February 2011 at 5:53 pm
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
@Stuck: I stick to the corny stuff because in my professional life, down here in the Land of The Steel Magnolias, I would be run out of town on a rail if I said Fuckity Fuck Fuck Fuck in public, lol.
FFFF seems to have become one your most fav swear chants, it really knocks a wallop, don’t it? (I use it A LOT in private.)
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26th February 2011 at 5:57 pm
MuckAbout says:
Bah… From natures point of view, until a fetus is able to survive outside the womb, it’s defined as a parasite. Then, when born, if it survives the trip and momma don’t want it, up until a few hundred years ago, into the ditch it went or it got drowned like a litter of cats in a gunny sack tossed off a convenient bridge.
Anything else is a moral question that has evolved (and is still evolving) within the human race. The ditch and sack are still in use daily in this world and will continue to be so whether other human beings like it or not.
I personal dislike the idea of abortion. I will not, however, make any attempt whatsoever to stop a woman from complete control over her body, her inputs and outputs, her intellect, manner of brains, morals or whether to have a full term child or an abortion. That’s her business and no one else – up to the point where 72% of children (or more) are birthed as dependents of the state. That means I have to pay for more members of the FSA to drag us down. Any woman who does that deserves to have her tubes tied so she can’t make the same stupid decision 7 more times.
It would be really great if every female (and male) took responsibility for their actions and were smart enough to know how to do it. Too bad they aren’t.
Choose life if you want – and I hope that’s what you want. But don’t make society (me!) pay for it.
MA
Anybody tells me what I can and cannot do with my old carcass can kiss my ass first and climb a rope second.
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26th February 2011 at 5:57 pm
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How many kids starving in the US today RE?
They are starving in your mind.
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26th February 2011 at 6:01 pm
StuckInNJ says:
MA — do you believe war is immoral? Please provide a lengthy answer. Thank You.
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26th February 2011 at 6:04 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
Admin.
I just got home from a funeral, a very churchy service. A little bit about my aunt and a whole lot of god god god god god god and Jesus. Gonna have a stiff drink or three then decide if I want to roll back onto this thread and thrash the living shit out you.
If I decide not to, don’t despair. You and I will trade blows on this issue someday when I am not on a mission to get shitfaced and you are not supposed to be working.
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26th February 2011 at 6:10 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Punk, capitalize the word “God” you fucking douchbag atheist.
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26th February 2011 at 6:15 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
i just ripped the fucking shift keys off my keyboard, shit bag. i’m gonna drive down to smegmaville, nj and shove one down your throat and ram the other up your fat ass. question my capitalization again and i’ll rip your fucking face off and fist fuck your mother with with it.
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26th February 2011 at 6:23 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
“How many kids starving in the US today RE?”-Admin
According to UNICEF the following percentages of children in the FSofA are undernourished or malnourished:
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% of under-fives (2003 -2009*) suffering from: underweight (NCHS/WHO), moderate & severe
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% of under-fives (2003 -2009*) suffering from: underweight (WHO), moderate & severe
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% of under-fives (2003 -2009*) suffering from: underweight (WHO), severe
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% of under-fives (2003 -2009*) suffering from: wasting (WHO), moderate & severe
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% of under-fives (2003 -2009*) suffering from: stunting (WHO), moderate & severe
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Call it 1-2% of the population of under-5s currently suffering effects of undernourishment. Aproximately 7% of the population of 307M are under 5 according to the US Census. That is roughly 21.5M children under 5. Taking the lowball estimate of 1% of these children currently suffering from the effects of starvation from the UNICEF stats would put the number of starvign children inn the US currently at about 200,000.
Granted, this is a relatively small number of children nationwide and they are most likely Black and Hispanic so its not too muh to worry about right now. However, it will be a good deal more to consider when you take the SNAP cards away from the FSA.
RE
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26th February 2011 at 6:23 pm
StuckInNJ says:
My mother has cancer. Leave her out of this.
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26th February 2011 at 6:32 pm
llpoh says:
I will not go so far as calling abortion murder, but it sure as hell is morally repugnant. Public funding of abortion is a joke. It simply serves to further reduce personal responsibility for actions. And then people say “without it, the thirty blocks of squalor will get bigger”. What assholes. There is a different solution to that – yank the teat out of their mouths – work or starve. Their is no correlation. They are independent issues.
Anyone out their who doesn’t find abortion, at a minimum, repugnant? We as a society should fund such a thing? Sheeee-it.
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26th February 2011 at 6:36 pm
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RE
Peak Bullshit.
No one is starving in the United States.
You can’t even find a skinny person along the 30 Blocks of Squalor.
You need to get out of your cabin into the real world.
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26th February 2011 at 6:38 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
Cancer is the reason for the funeral I attended today. Fair nuff.
Cancer eats shit.
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26th February 2011 at 6:39 pm
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Punk
It appears that church doesn’t sit well with you. Did a priest make a pass at you?
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26th February 2011 at 6:40 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
@Admin
Those aren’t my numbers, they come from the WHO. Take your arguments to the statisticians there. You are the CPA, you convince them their numbers are wrong, OK?
RE
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26th February 2011 at 6:43 pm
StuckInNJ says:
llpoh, are we having trouble understanding the difference between “their” and “there”?
Just askin’ cuz you was tellin me da other day about youz bein highly college edumacated. Lemme know if you need lessons.
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26th February 2011 at 6:44 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Jeezus, RE … what a pussified whimped out response.
YOU quoted them — YOU support the argument!!
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26th February 2011 at 6:46 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
Facts of Child Hunger in America
•Nearly 14 million children are estimated to be served by Feeding America, over 3 million of which are ages 5 and under. i •According to the USDA, over 17 million children lived in food insecure (low food security and very low food security) households in 2009. ii
•20% or more of the child population in 16 states and D.C. are living in food insecure households. The states of Arkansas (24.4 percent) and Texas (24.3 percent) have the highest rates of children in households without consistent access to food. (Cook, John, Child Food Insecurity in the United States: 2006-2008. iii
•The top five states with the highest rate of food insecure children under 18 are Arkansas, Texas, Arizona, Missouri, Mississippi, as well as the District of Columbia
•Proper nutrition is vital to the growth and development of children, particularly for low-income children. 62 percent of all client households with children under the age of 18 participated in a school lunch program, but only 14 percent participated in a summer feeding program that provides free food when school is out. i
•54 percent of client households with children under the age of 3 participated in the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children (WIC). i
•32 percent of pantries, 42 percent of kitchens, and 18 percent of shelters in the Feeding America network reported “many more children in the summer” being served by their programs. i
•Emergency food assistance plays a vital role in the lives of low-income families. In 2002, more than half of the nonelderly families that accessed a food pantry at least once during the year had children under the age of 18. iv
•15.5 million or approximately 20.7 percent of children in the U.S. live in poverty.
•Research indicates that even mild undernutrition experienced by young children during critical periods of growth impacts the behavior of children, their school performance, and their overall cognitive development. vi
•In fiscal year 2009, 48 percent of all SNAP participants were children. vii
•During the 2009 federal fiscal year, 19.5 million low-income children received free or reduced-price meals through the National School Lunch Program. Unfortunately, just 2.2 million of these same income-eligible children participated in the Summer Food Service Program that same year. viii
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26th February 2011 at 6:47 pm
Administrator says:
RE’s starving poor children in the US of A
RE has provided proof of PEAK BULLSHIT
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26th February 2011 at 6:48 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
Was that enough support Stuck?
RE
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26th February 2011 at 6:50 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
I see. I provide statistics and the CPA puts up pitures of fat kids as a rebuttal. Do we sense somebody has a problem justifying his arguments here?
RE
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26th February 2011 at 6:51 pm
llpoh says:
Bberry issues, asshole.
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26th February 2011 at 6:51 pm
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RE
You are SOOOO skeptical about things you don’t believe like capitalism, but you quote authoritative bullshit when it suits your purposes.
PEAK BULLSHIT
How can there be starving American children when every public school in the US feeds them for free every day.
Use your fuckin head.
Show me any proof of children starving to death in America, not this nutrition bullshit.
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26th February 2011 at 6:52 pm
Administrator says:
RE wins the David Pierre award of the day for cutting and pasting rather than using his own mind. I guess your mind is envisioning the millions and millions of American children dying in the streets.
LOL
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26th February 2011 at 6:54 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Well, you shure didn have pwablems spellin “asshole” !!
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26th February 2011 at 6:54 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
All I need to do to prive Admin’s statement that NOBODY is starving in the FSofA WRONG is to find ONE starvign person. Well, here are a few Starving American Girls. PROOF there are people dying of starvation in the FSofA.
RE
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26th February 2011 at 6:58 pm
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RE
CPAs use real numbers, not bullshit estimates and guesses. I guess that cuts it for Ivy League graduate douchebags. Columbia grads are known to be easily misled and clueless when it comes to numbers. LOL
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26th February 2011 at 6:59 pm
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RE
Aren’t those the girls in your dundgeon?
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26th February 2011 at 7:00 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
Now, if you want to stop this nonsense, obviously what we are looking at is not TODAY’s starving children, but the ones you will have once the Public Schools have gone the way of the Dinosaur and there are no school lunch programs, and the Tea Baggers get their wish and cut off SNAP cards to feed the impoverished population. I would have thought I didn;t have to spell that out for you, but clearly I do.
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26th February 2011 at 7:02 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
Never had a chance to. Organized religion doesn’t sit well with me.
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26th February 2011 at 7:05 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
“CPAs use real numbers, not bullshit estimates and guesses.” Admin
Really? Tell that to the accountants at Ernst & Young and Arthur Anderson. “We do Bookkeeping the Old Fashioned Way. “We make the shit up with 2 sets of books.” LOL.
RE
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26th February 2011 at 7:06 pm
Administrator says:
Wrong again.
Kids were not starving to death in the US before the New Deal and the welfare state. Charities, families, and neighbors supported each other without government intervention.
Government policies have made it far worse. I suggest you watch the Sowell and Friedman videos.
I picture you melting like the wicked witch of the west while watching them.
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26th February 2011 at 7:08 pm
Administrator says:
Those CPAs graduated from Columbia.
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26th February 2011 at 7:09 pm
StuckInNJ says:
RE — you must be having a bad hair day. Your arguments make ZERO sense.
First, your “proofs” are statistics? Well, I have EYES … which in 52 years of living in the USofA have NEVER seen a starving child. Malnourished? Maybe. Hell, even those fat kids Jim posted are in a sense malnourished … fat does not equal good nourishment. But really, can you link something from anywhere that shows a child in the USA starved to death?
Secondly, you post pics of people who CHOOSE to starve THEMSELVES … and you call this proof? Amazing.
Hey, check out the “responsibility to the poor” thread. There’s a quote there that should keep you busy the rest of the evening. I even highlighted it for you.
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26th February 2011 at 7:10 pm
llpoh says:
Stuck – occassionally you still see a glimmer of light, don’t you? His arguments are as lucid today as any other day – but he is using fewer words, so it is a lot easier to tell. But what the, keep encouraging him – I am sure that will work.
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26th February 2011 at 7:18 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
I thought you read “the Grapes of Wrath? MANY people were starving during the Great Depression before the New Deal.
By some estimates, as many as people died from starvation related problems duriing the Great Depression in the FSofA as died in the Holocaust over in Europe. WHY do you think Tom Joad speaks of his children’s bellies being full in this quote, which you yourself recently used in your Depression post?
“Then it don’t matter. I’ll be all around in the dark – I’ll be everywhere. Wherever you can look – wherever there’s a fight, so hungry people can eat, I’ll be there. Wherever there’s a cop beatin’ up a guy, I’ll be there. I’ll be in the way guys yell when they’re mad. I’ll be in the way kids laugh when they’re hungry and they know supper’s ready, and when the people are eatin’ the stuff they raise and livin’ in the houses they build – I’ll be there, too. “- John Steinbeck, the Grapes of Wrath
You boxed yourself in good Jim. Work your way out of this one. Should be fun to read. LOL
RE
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26th February 2011 at 7:20 pm
AKAnon says:
RE-Those hungry American kids wouldn’t be hungry if their POS mothers weren’t using their SNAP cards to buy shit they could sell for cash-to buy cigs, booze & drugs. The anorexics in your pics are self-inflicted starvation. That doesn’t count, any more than self-inflicted gun shot wounds count as “firearm violence”.
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26th February 2011 at 7:26 pm
llpoh says:
Horseshit. My family came thru the dustbowl. It was a time of deprivation. Never did I hear of death by starvation, although there was hunger.
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26th February 2011 at 7:26 pm
AKAnon says:
Last post referred to pre-”Grapes of Wrath” pics.
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26th February 2011 at 7:27 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
The researcher, Boris Borisov, in his article titled “The American Famine” estimated the victims of the financial crisis in the US at over seven million people. The researcher also directly compared the US events of 1932-1933 with Holodomor, or Famine, in the USSR during 1932-1933.
In the article, Borisov used the official data of the US Census Bureau. Having revised the number of the US population, birth and date rates, immigration and emigration, the researcher came to conclusion that the United States lost over seven million people during the famine of 1932-1933.
“According to the US statistics, the US lost not less than 8 million 553 thousand people from 1931 to 1940. Afterwards, population growth indices change twice instantly exactly between 1930-1931: the indices drop and stay on the same level for ten years. There can no explanation to this phenomenon found in the extensive text of the report by the US Department of Commerce “Statistical Abstract of the United States,” the author wrote. Famine killed 7 million people in USA
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26th February 2011 at 7:32 pm
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RE
Not boxed in at all. You may have written one of the biggest bullshit lines in the history of TBP. You are actually telling everyone on this site that 6 million Americans died of starvation during the Great Depression. Really? Let’s see you work your way out of this one. People being hungry versus starving to death is a tiny bit different, except in your mind
“By some estimates, as many as people died from starvation related problems duriing the Great Depression in the FSofA as died in the Holocaust over in Europe.”
Let the readership vote.
RE says that 6 million Americans died of starvation during the Great Depression. Agree or disagree?
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26th February 2011 at 7:35 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
Eh, I would say RE has a point,. Other than the one on his head.
I’m sure there were people who starved during the depths of the Great Depression. (soon to be known as “that other time that sucked almost as much as this”) Of course, he has only managed to deflect one of the many rounds flying at him. Not really something worth cheering about, but, in this bloodbath I feel like RE should get credit where it is due.
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26th February 2011 at 7:37 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
Holy shit 7 million? I doubt that very much. Fuck, I took too long finding the picture.
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26th February 2011 at 7:40 pm
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RE
You google some article from a Russian “researcher” named Boris Borisov as your proof. Beyond laughable.
Please fill us in on old Boris’ credentials to be an authority on the US Great Depression.
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26th February 2011 at 7:42 pm
llpoh says:
Anyone out there but me have a direct relationship with the dustbowl? Anyone? It is a load of horseshit. 7 million?
What a stinking pile of shit attempt to justify his whacko tribalist theories. It simply did not happen. Sure there were deaths – mostly related to general poverty. Not to total starvation. I have many direct lines into the depression, and not ONE ever said such a thing. Total horseshit.
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26th February 2011 at 7:48 pm
Smokey says:
Stuck,
I spent 15 days in the hospital for colon cancer surgery 5 years ago, and then 6 months undergoing chemotherapy.
Does that mean I’m entitled to a free pass from flamers here?
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26th February 2011 at 7:53 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
“Due to the large number of people without an income and an absence of social assistance services, famine quickly spread in America. When people began to massively die in the richest city of the country, New York, the city government was forced to begin handing out free soup on the streets.
Here are a child’s memories of this time:
“We had to substitute our favourite food for anything that was available… instead of cabbage, we had to eat leaves from bushes, we had to eat frogs instead of meat… in a month my mother and older sister died…” (Jack Griffin) ”
Boris Borosov is a Russian Historian. Anyhow, I put the full article up for you guys to chew on in a new thread.
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26th February 2011 at 7:54 pm
AKAnon says:
Smokey-That medical experience should entitle you to a free pass from Gaddafi’s nurse, I should think. Not that I support entitlements.
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26th February 2011 at 8:00 pm
howard in nyc says:
there is no starvation in america today. those stats are complete garbage. low food security? that means they are on fucking food stamps.
as for malnourishment, yeah there is tons. from too much sugar, too much starch, too many french fries. caloric deficit malnourishment? fuck no. the handful of kids starved by neglectful parents or whomever. but christ, making sure there are no empty bellies is one of the few things this country has managed to accomplish.
if you sincerely believe starvation, and by that i mean lack of access to caloric intake, is a major or even a minor problem in america, you are flat out wrong.
‘what if the schools stopped providing lunch’? what the fuck does that have to do with the ridiculous assertion that there is starvation in america?
as for the cynical use of the mentally ill suffering from deadly eating disorders, well at least you stumbled upon a true problem in the good ol usa. funny how such illness was unheard of before mass media fashion magazines and endless tv brainwashing that thin is in.
but i wish you would leave me out of this. yes, i too suffer from body dismorphic disorder, or whatever the fuck it is called.
when i look in the mirror, i see a thin, svelte 25yo basketball player. with a full head of hair. i should be pitied, not mocked.
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26th February 2011 at 8:03 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
If none of you folks think Starvation is possible in the FSofA, then WTF do you stock up on Food, Guns and Ammo? Why bother? There will ALWAYS be food in the FSofA, right?
Far as anorexics go, they are the product of a sick culture, and are in fact starving, so it is not valid to say nobody is starving. That was done mainly to go tit for tat with the stupid pictures of fat kids presented as an argument here.
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26th February 2011 at 8:11 pm
StuckInNJ says:
Sorry to hear about that Smokey. You get a free pass today and tomorrow. Especially tomorow since it is my birthday.
“I’ll fist fuck your mother”??? Jeezus, I still can’t get over that. Some folks here just don’t know where to draw the line.
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26th February 2011 at 8:11 pm
llpoh says:
A quick search indicates Borosov generated his “theory” in response to the starvation in the Ukraine.
Totally unreliable.
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26th February 2011 at 8:11 pm
Smokey says:
AK Anon,
Thanks, but I’ll pass on the free pass from Gaddafi’s nurse.
I wouldn’t bang that fat cow with RE’s dick.
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26th February 2011 at 8:17 pm
MuckAbout says:
@Stucky: Way up above (I ate supper and got left way behind in this mess) you asked,
” MA — do you believe war is immoral? Please provide a lengthy answer. Thank You.”
I consider any aggression against another human being, except in self defense, immoral. That means if you are holding a knife, threatening me and say “Gimme da cash!”, I’ll pull out my gun and kill you. I’ve made a moral response to an immoral act..
War is always immoral if it is initiated by one country against another for reasons of conquest to loot land, wealth, food, force religion, political system or anything else that is not, in itself, the property of the initiating aggressor.
All wars are started as a result of politics, religion, population pressure, food, resources or other economic looting, usually by the have-nots against the haves.
Since all wars are started in the ways outlined in the above sentence, the short answer is yes, all wars are immoral.
The long answer is more complicated which is irrelevant because the statement above is still valid.
You will never find a real soldier who has fought a war who believes war is a moral solution to anything. The cost of war always far exceeds the benefits thereof except to the despot who ends up victorious and can loot the looser.
Our experience in WWII was an aberration. We were the only nation left standing at the end of a world wide massacre. We – for reasons I have never quite been able to justify – rebuilt our enemies into powerhouses (Japan and Germany). We whipped the Russians without firing a rocket and our mini-wars between WWII and now merely showed our hubris to the world in loosing four wars we never should have been in. (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan)
Now that we have experienced peak debt and can no longer afford the hubris that got us in this sorry position, we will withdraw – either voluntarily or through economic collapse and begin the slow, inevitable decline to 2nd or 3rd world status with China probably screwing up the world for the next 100 years.
The next immoral war is inevitable. As we sink into depression, the FSofA will start a war somewhere to distract the citizens (panic!, danger!, pull together! rationing!, et al) and justify the complete destruction of the economic base on which the country operates. After that is Mad Max.
It is all immoral, stupid, idiotic and it will happen. The timing is in question, not the end result.
All war is immoral. Period. That won’t keep us from doing it to the death of us all, one way or another.
Have sweet dreams….
MA
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26th February 2011 at 8:24 pm
Smokey says:
Stuck,
Quit whining about Punk’s comment. Either you’re a man or you’re a mouse.
You’ve sat your fat ass right on that couch eating Cheetos and Twinkies a thousand times while I have made shit of the ancestry of dozens of foes right here on this blog, and you haven’t said SHIT.
I’ve had people right here call my momma a whore, and I’ve told people their mother sucks cocks in hell, and you haven’t said SHIT.
The big leagues aren’t for everyone Stuck. Either you’re a sheep, or you’re a wolf.
Which is it ? A sheep or a wolf ?
And I don’t want or need a pass from you today. And I DAMN sure don’t want a pass tomorrow, on the anniversary of your momma taking a great big SHIT.
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26th February 2011 at 8:25 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
After the bar is set by Smokey what do you expect? Fuck me running, if this where any kind of civilized place I wouldn’t have to use such filthy language. If I wasn’t hanging out on a blog with a bunch hooligans I could have said:
StuckInNJ, (Because I would politely use your full screen name instead of Stuckupyourownass) Some other day I might feel like capitalizing the word god, on a day when the great lord Jesus Christ our savior and holy brother in god and grace and glory of his divine will on earth Amen has not been crammed down my throat. But not today.
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26th February 2011 at 8:27 pm
llpoh says:
Smokey – this site is full of pussies. If I was your sworn enemy, not only would you not get a free pass, but I would spend every waking moment devising strategies to turn this new found info to my advantage. But I am sure you welcome the free pass, seeing as how Stuck and crew are. So successful in kicking your ass. Really what Stuck is saying is – will claim I am giving him a free pass but really what I am doing is preserving my own ass for two days by seeking a truce.
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26th February 2011 at 8:28 pm
llpoh says:
Punk – I am afraid we have been a bad influence on you. A few months ago you would have taken Stuck’s comments up the wazoo and asked politely for some more.
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26th February 2011 at 8:34 pm
Smokey says:
llpoh—Punk would have BEGGED for more.
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26th February 2011 at 8:39 pm
Administrator says:
RE motherfucks CPAs as liars, cheats and frauds in one breath and then quotes a Russian douchebag in Pravda who spouts that 7 million Americans starved to death in the Great Depression as his authoritative source of truth.
Let it be said that RE never let a good story get in the way of facts or the truth
RE – Here are the actual death rates per 1,000 people in the US from 1900 through 1940. I know facts really really annoy you, but please please examine the death rates from 1930 through 1933. You told everyone on this site that there was a mass starvation die off in 1932-33. The death rate in the US from your own government shows that the death rate declined during this time.
I’ve obliterated your reeking lies with facts. Your ability to make shit up out of thin air is beyond belief.
Year Rate
1900 17.2
1905 15.9
1910 14.7
1915 13.2
1920 13.0
1925 11.7
1930 11.3
1931 11.1
1932 10.9
1933 10.7
1934 11.1
1935 10.9
1936 11.6
1937 11.3
1938 10.6
1939 10.6
1940 10.8
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26th February 2011 at 8:46 pm
Administrator says:
There were 123 million people living in the US in 1930. The death rates between 1930 and 1933 show that TOTAL deaths in the entire country per year were in the range of 1.3 million per year. This means there were 5.2 million TOTAL DEATHS in the entire freaking country between 1930 and 1933, but RE has proclaimed to the world that 7 million Americans died of starvation in 1932-1933.
RE wins the award for the stupidest fucking statement in history.
This bullshit should convince everyone to question anything he writes.
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26th February 2011 at 8:58 pm
Administrator says:
RE
RUSSIAN HISTORIAN????????????????????
LAUGH MY ASS OFF
If Boris Borosov is a historian then you’re a historian. A fucking retard is a historian.
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26th February 2011 at 9:00 pm
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RE
We all await your apology for telling the biggest fucking lie ever on TBP. I’m sure you will admit you were wrong to the tenth power.
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26th February 2011 at 9:01 pm
llpoh says:
Admin – this is how he operates. As before, I am sure he writes his lengthy posts and articles so as to obscure the irrationality of his arguments, fact and figures. If he placed them out there in decipherable bites, the cries of horseshit would echo far and wide.
Your facts support my quick search and personal knowledge.
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26th February 2011 at 9:03 pm
Administrator says:
RE
I’m not publishing your post from Boris. I obliterated it as complete and utter bullshit and I will not waste the time of my readers. I await your screams of censorship. Go fuck yourself.
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26th February 2011 at 9:05 pm
llpoh says:
Admin – don’t hold your breath re the RE apology. He will admit nothing that contradicts his position.
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26th February 2011 at 9:06 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
LLPOH, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Its not like I was ever a giant sissy like Shadows, always walking on eggshells and posting blatantly neutral posts devoid of any hint of an insult or even decent scorching material. Except that one time when Smokey was out of town and had not posted in several days and that pipsqueak scurried in and declared that the mooslim terrorists were non existent, then dove back into hiding.
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26th February 2011 at 9:08 pm
Smokey says:
I pondered the ongoing debate here regarding the alleged 7 million deaths during the depression. I INSTANTLY estimated the population of the USA at that time to be about 115 to 120 million. I knew INSTANTLY that 7 million deaths from starvation was another of THOUSANDS of lies and deliberate misstatements by RE.
I gave this shit less than ten seconds of my time, prior to this comment.
CLASSIC example of why I don’t spend any time reading RE’s articles anymore.
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26th February 2011 at 9:20 pm
llpoh says:
Smokey – you are wise. I simply cannot help myself at times.
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26th February 2011 at 9:28 pm
llpoh says:
Admin – I guess that means my article re there was no Holocaust may not make it, either. Damn. Everyone knows it is Zionist propaganda.
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26th February 2011 at 9:32 pm
llpoh says:
Punk – one word summed you up months ago. – pink. You are getting past that now. But pink you were.
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26th February 2011 at 9:35 pm
Punk in Drublic says:
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26th February 2011 at 9:46 pm
bigargon says:
some scary numbers :
USA Population 2010: 308 million
number of abortions since 1973: 53 million
that 17% of the population.
I wonder how our tax base would look with 17% more tax payers?
how would the social security fund look with 17% more people paying into the fund?
I realize that this is a rather unsophisticated treatment of these stats (it beyond my statistical abilities).
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26th February 2011 at 10:48 pm
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
Ok, back to the abortion issue: As I was driving back from rounding in 5 hospitals, I was pondering some of the responses to this thread.
You seem to assume that every child NOT aborted would a priori grow up to be a member of the FSA and/or a criminal. What. The Fuck. That would ONLY be true if the BAU persists as promulgated by our dear fed.gov. That is, that all the social bennies would still be extant, like SNAP, etc, etc. Jim is spot on on WHY these programs still exist.
How many Charles Drews, Marian Anderson’s (have you ever heard her sing?), Ben Carsons, Thomas Sowells, Thomas Clarences, etc are being aborted in Planned Parenthoods EVERY DAY? Shit, the most dangerous place for a child of color these days is in the womb of his or hers mother, for the love of God.
Yes, I always choose life, on my own dime and on my own time. Which is what I expect of every single of my fellow citizens. If we didn’t have this mindset of “oh the poor children”, I challenge you that parents would take better care of their own kids. And if they didn’t? Fuck ‘em. They lose their kids and the PRIVILEGE it really is to be a parent.
Yes, I said it: It is NOT a right to be a parent, it is a PRIVILEGE . A privilege you EARN by standing up to the challenges and providing a safe, loving, nurturing environment. You can’t do that? Well, your kids go to two ADULTS who can.
So there, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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26th February 2011 at 11:13 pm
howard in nyc says:
–”How many Charles Drews, Marian Anderson’s (have you ever heard her sing?), Ben Carsons, Thomas Sowells, Thomas Clarences, etc are being aborted in Planned Parenthoods EVERY DAY?”
hey, white people get abortions too
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26th February 2011 at 11:22 pm
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
@RE: I think you are confusing poor NUTRITION with STARVATION.
If we truly had starvation in this country, why we would have the FLOTUS yammering on about childhood obesity and re-wonking the school lunch menus? We do have poor nutrition, which is one reason why we have an epidemic of childhood obesity.
As I cruise around the northern Houston Metroplex in my BMW, I just don’t see a lot of starving or hungry kids, sorry, but I do wait about 20 minutes to be served at the Burger King because of the fatso families ordering TWO jumbo meals per family member!!!
Also, my personal BS meter goes off the scale whenever “stats” from the WHO or UNICEF are posted. These are two organizations which are full of statist, totalitarian, anti-America, anti-freemarket hard line left wing whack jobs. You will notice that they almost NEVER critize the bad boys of the planet, like the former USSR, China, Iran, etc…. WHO/UNICEF are big bullies that only pick on the “turn the other cheek” US of A.
My dear RE, I think you are confusing America with the former USSR which deliberately starved 5 MILLION Ukrainians (Holodomor) or Mao’s starvation/killing of 76 MILLION Chinese. Those are only two of several acts of genocide of the 20th century that spring to mind.
Sorry, but the Western/Judeo-Christian countries have really lost their mojo for whole scale genocide thingey since about, oh, the 1500s.
It’s all about personal responsibility. If you depend on the fed.gov to support you, well, you are a sorry sack of shit, IMHO, and will be really really really unhappy when TSHTF and there is no more money.
Or,
You can forge you own way in the world, make your own destiny, give the big Middle Finger Salute to the fed.gov.
Your CHOICE.
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26th February 2011 at 11:29 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
@ jimq
not a problem. I did not write it. this clearly demands an original piece. coming tomorrow to a daily rant near you.
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26th February 2011 at 11:37 pm
Hope@ZeroKelvin says:
@Howard: yeah, white people get abortions, but not at the rate that black women do. Something like 40% of all black pregnancies end in abortion. Look, I am a little while girl from So Cal, daughter of two public school teachers (God bless em) and I am sickened by the loss of human potential that has occurred in the black community by the policies of political correctness, affirmative action, abortion and race baiting. I don’t know whether to blow something up or just puke my guts out. It is a holocaust that future historians, if there are any, will write the gruesome details of, in blood.
And no, I did not have the privilege of hearing Marian Anderson sing. My parents did not have the dough to fly to NYC and listen to her sing at the Met. My dad was a serious classical music lover. He had a stack of classical music albums that reached the ceiling. Since my Dad had the only stereo in our house, we listened to what he liked. I grew up with the classics. I grew up listening to her, didn’t even know she was black until I put the album back in its cover. My Dad would almost weep at the beauty of her voice. I didn’t know any black people then, it was 1965. Listening to her beautiful voice changed me forever, it made me believe in the person within, in the “content of their character”, of the awesome potential of all people, regardless of color, gender, religion, whatever, all that stupid external stuff that always gets in the way. I was only 6 years old when I figured that out. It has taken me the rest of my life to realize the truth of it.
So there.
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26th February 2011 at 11:44 pm
SSS says:
Stucky,
I was reading the threads on this post and got down to your comment that said, “SSS says he really doesn’t hate me, but I know he does.”
Sheesh, chill out, guy. I got you back to TBP, remember? Why would have I done that if I hated you? You have a superb sense of humor, and you post some really first class comments.
And you’ve absolutely flamed my ass when you don’t agree with me. I’ve responded in kind. That’s not hate. It’s TBP.
Peace, brother. (Until we disagree.)
SSS
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26th February 2011 at 11:51 pm
KaD says:
I’d like someone to explain to me how it’s possible to ‘murder’ someone before they’re born. It makes as much sense as murdering someone after they’re dead. In both cases it’s a human body on a life support system; not the same thing as a human being even though it LOOKS like one. Why do you think it’s called the ‘miracle of birth’? Why is the miracle of birth the first ‘breath of LIFE’? Most of this veiwpoint comes from the bible which NOWHERE in it says ‘abortion is murder’. Those three words in that order simply are not there. And the unfortunate fact that someone developed a camera small enough to fit up a womans crotch. A woman is six times more likely to die from the complications of pregnancy and birth than an abortion. Of course the world would be a better place if people thought about the consequences of their actions; that said I know three women who were told by doctors they were infertile and couldn’t have kids who now have kids; no technology utilized. One was even on the pill at the time she conceived. Who is going to be the judge and jury? I don’t want anyone else to be mine, thank you. Anyone who has a problem with it should adopt, preferably a retarded black kid. I know someone who did just that and he’s one of the few people I’ve known who I consider to be a REAL Christian (not in name only) and have a great and abiding respect for.
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26th February 2011 at 11:51 pm
howard in nyc says:
@hope–well, there is my learn something new for the day. i knew abortion rates were higher for non-whites, but i had no idea it was so great a discrepancy. while the incidence of abortions for black women is five times higher than whites (hispanics about double that of whites), the raw number of white abortions is roughly the same as black abortions.
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26th February 2011 at 12:44 am
howard in nyc says:
sorry, source: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/11/3/gpr110302.html
Notes: “Other” includes Asians, Pacific Islanders, Native Americans and those of mixed race. These numbers add to 101% because of a small overlap among the Hispanic, black and other categories. Source: Guttmacher Institute, 2008.
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26th February 2011 at 12:45 am
StuckInNJ says:
Smokey –> “And I DAMN sure don’t want a pass tomorrow, on the anniversary of your momma taking a great big SHIT.”
My mom has rectal cancer. She hasn’t pooped in over a month. Please leave her out of this.
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26th February 2011 at 1:18 am
StuckInNJ says:
@RE —- Well, you have been TOTALLY SCORCHED by Jim, Hope, Smokey, and a cast of thousands. You have lost much credibility with that 7 million die remark. Not college material … more like Nursery School You have been EXPOSED!! You might consider taking a few days off. Go smoke some bear meat or catch a fish. Will you consider that? Of course not. You’re going to post a 10,000 word rebuttal. Oh … JOY!!
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@ Muck — thank you for the war answer. A good one.
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@sss — knowing that we’re still friends is the nicest birthday gift I ever got. Thank You!! Bitch slapping Smokey and Punk would come in a close second.
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@Smokey — I’d like to be pals. But you said bad things about my mama so I’m not sure I can invite you to the party. We’ll have to play Pin The Schlong on the Donkey without you.
@Punk — Jesus loves you. I don’t.
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26th February 2011 at 1:28 am
llpoh says:
Stuck – I didn’t even rate a mention? That is cold. I put my heart and soul into these posts and I get ignored.
Sorry about your mom.
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26th February 2011 at 3:29 am
Novista says:
llpoh
I had no experience of the dustbowl, but I know how some states fared better than others during the New Deal. Essentially, FDR never worried about the safe states or the ‘lost’ states but the ‘recovery’ definitely went toward the swing states.
But all I knew, ca. 1940-early 41 was ‘oh well, times are hard.’ And I remember mom said, “It’s terrible to be poor.’ Huh. We had our own house, small and somewhat shabby but by the heavens, a roof over our heads. Three meals on the table every day, I remember a bit later going out with dad to raid damnyankee absentee orange grove owners — “when I hand you this gunny sack, drag it back to the car!”
Do I get a gold star for taking advantage of pigmen then? LOL. At any rate, I never saw any signs of people *starving* in our area.
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26th February 2011 at 8:24 am
Punk in Drublic says:
Stucky, I would prefer your love.
Happy Birthday.
I am very sorry to hear about your mother.
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26th February 2011 at 9:34 am
Smokey says:
Stuck,
I said a prayer for your mom and hope she soon sees better days.
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26th February 2011 at 10:20 am
StuckInNJ says:
@llpoh — You shall be mentioned again when you restore Big Dog status unto me.
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@Punk — thanks. The only person I have hated here, ever, is DP. My love for you is safe. BTW, my mom does not have cancer. It is the first lie I ever told here. I just wanted to make you suffer a bit for the naughty thing you said about my mammie.
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26th February 2011 at 10:21 am
Punk in Drublic says:
You turd. Cancer is not for vengeance. 10 hail Marys and a LONG prayer regarding your mothers health is in order, I think.
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26th February 2011 at 10:40 am
StuckInNJ says:
“You turd.”
LOL LMAO etc. etc.
Gotchya … with my own fistfuck up yo’ ass.
Peace!
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26th February 2011 at 10:56 am
MuckAbout says:
Stuck: I’m really sorry to hear about your Mom and my best wishes to her and you. Jim lost people last year and I lost a son-in-law who was a son to me.
Life’s a bitch at the end of it.
MA
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26th February 2011 at 11:05 am
FRED FLINTSTONE says:
Let me get this straight. I got SCARED because an octogenarian with one shrivelly nut and a sex fetish told me he has “Rocket Powered Fists?”
You guys are awesome!!!!!
Seriously, a good point was broughr up about abortion and 30Blocks. Do you feel that all babies are equal at birth and Nurture is the difference, or do genetics and inherited traits influence productivity and advancement? Quinn, what do you really think?
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26th February 2011 at 12:30 pm
Reverse Engineer says:
Not 10,000 words Stuck, only around 4500. I kept it under the 5000 Word Max for an individual Post. LOL.
I am not concerned with being “scorched” in such short banter. Its a complex problem and isn’t amenable to such chit chat, evidenced by the dumbo Fat Kid Pics Admin posted as his supporting argument, followed by my equally ridiculous anorexic models pics. This is what passes for Debate at its finest here in the Comments area of TBP. Which of course is why I write the Daily Rant instead of getting endlessly trapped in this sewer.
Anyhow, you can feel free to lambast my response when it gets published. Trust me, you will have plenty of stuff to piss on. Its very Darwinian and not very Politically Correct. As Tribalists go, I am a pretty ruthless one overall, but I am just calling it as I see it coming down the pipe.
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26th February 2011 at 6:10 pm
Opinionated Bloviator says:
” We need to defend the unborn”, No we need to stop the “worthless eaters” from breeding. Sterilize the water drinkers until they can get off their ass and pull their weight in society.
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26th February 2011 at 6:57 am