FOURTH TURNING GAINING ATTENTION

A gentleman from another Ivy League University that I have had email correspondence with sent me an interesting email this morning. He had been asked by a world renowned hedge fund manager to review and summarize Strauss & Howe’s Fourth Turning. The hedge fund manager was intrigued by the book and wanted another opinion from someone he could trust. Below is the review. It seems that the Fourth Turning concept is gaining traction among smart open minded people.

Sorry for the highly delayed opinion of Strauss and Howe’s “The Fourth Turning”. I spend enough time keeping up with daily noise that mowing through books is difficult. A quick clarification. I write up and post reviews of books I read, so this letter will assume a little flavor of that. I should add that my motivation to read the book was initiated by the drumbeat in the bear community, enhanced by Jim Quinn’s “Burning Platform” blogs based extensively on the premise of an impending Fourth Turning, and accelerated to the point of action by your interest in the book. (I am particularly intrigued that a guy managing tens of billions and benefiting enormously during what the authors call the “unraveling” would be so interested in such a book.) I especially enjoy reading books about the present (and future) that are not written contemporaneously (1996 in this case); it makes the resonances so compelling when they arise.


To refresh your memory from your distant read, the book describes a scenario in which the saeculum (80 year generational cycle) is comprised of four societal cycles (a high or rebirth, awakening, unraveling, and crisis), each lasting about 20 years. A parallel analysis describes generational types that spend essentially a human lifetime proceeding through the societal four cycles in a sequence that depends very much on which cycle one is born into. There appears to be a perfect symmetry–every person experiences four cycles and every cycle has four different generations experiencing it, each at different stages of their lives. In practice, I found the societal cycles–the temperaments and actions of society at large–far more understandable than the generational archetypes. I think this asymmetry is caused by the authors’ looser definition of generations (more of them since WWII, for example). The premise that each turning has a personality that is a direct consequence of the personalities of preceding generational cycles–Turning 1 (rebirth) naturally leads to Turning 2 (awakening) which naturally leads to turning 3 (unraveling) culminating in Turning 4 (crisis)–is certainly provocative. The critical component of the thesis is not that bad things happen in cycles but rather society’s RESPONSE to the incessant wave of events (Black Swans) follows cycles. Another critical component is that these generational changes will arrive regardless of the minutiae of events, and they will do so rather abruptly. (Clearly, parallels with secular market changes are inescapable.)


First, the weaknesses. The book seems to suffer a little from trying to place inherently sloppy patterns into neat categories. This is not a major problem, but potentially a source of allergic reaction to some. The historical treatise describing previous studies of cycle theories published over literally two millennia (Kondratiev being the most familiar) was necessary but offered a slow start to the book. (It would have been a killer if I hadn’t read a lot of history over the last decade.) This historical treatise was especially tough in that, although I could buy into their assertion that the War of the Roses was a Fourth Turning, I could not begin to imagine the societal moods necessary to place it in the right context. By contrast, generational changes in the 20th century US fit like an old shoe. None of these issues are fatal, just the weakest links.


With that said, I found that “The Fourth Turning” seemed to dovetail nicely into a Worldview that I have been developing for over a decade. I had many times noted to friends and on blogs that kids growing up in the 80’s and 90’s couldn’t possibly understand that the World can be a cruel place; the world rotated on its axis without precessing. Also, EVERY generation concludes that the subsequent generation is all screwed up so surely there are generational rollovers. The description of the crisis era not just involving conflicts but conflicts leading to catharsis also seems to fit the facts. I thought they did a great job of describing the eras and personalities in the 20th century–an insightful stroll down memory lane. I am a huge fan of pithy quotes, so the enormous number of quotes used to describe temperament of the various eras hit the hot bone on me.


The money shot came in the last 100 pages of the book in which they predict (again, in 1996) the Fourth Turning (the crisis) would arrive in the 2005-2010 window. Of course, every period has events that could be construed as proximate triggers (not causes but triggers) for a turning as well as crises, but the authors’ description was hauntingly accurate. I don’t know if you remember this, but they mentioned the trigger as possibly a financial crisis (check), broken promises by government (check), suffocating student loans (check), boomers beginning to overtax the system (check), and then the most surreal statement of all “something so trivial as a tea party.” I read that last one about five times. These guys clearly understood the unsustainability of the factors that have shoved us into gold-based investments. The stated influence of Pete Peterson on their thinking was readily apparent. (My son just so happens to work for him.)


As I read the book, I found myself pondering the Fourth Turning and concluded that, if their generational model is correct, it has indeed arrived. I asked a colleague what the historians would label as the proximate trigger, and he said 9/11. I don’t think so. Could it be the financial crisis? Closer, but still not quite right in my opinion. I would say that the proximate trigger was the disastrously inadequate response to the financial crisis. Of course, I am not referring to a Krugmanesque monetary policy but rather to the complete absence of new safeguards and retribution. I suspect that authorities might go after many of your friends in the hedge fund world, but that totally misses the mark; you guys are expected to game the system. By example, prosecuting Rajaratnam (who I am sure is worthy of a few convictions) but not Gupta decidedly misses the mark. Gupta was the one who breached public trust in the system. The authorities had to clean up the system itself, and they have clearly failed miserably. There’s only one conviction resulting from the mortgage crisis and it was a guy who lied on a liar loan. Well duh! Of particular, importance, they didn’t just try and fail to clean up the system, they never even tried. I think society watched patiently and, only within the last few months, has started to get angry. (I just read an article by Jeff Sachs this AM expressing enormous anger over the crime wave that has gone unchecked.) This period in which we began to realize nothing has changed may be identified as the brief period in which, ironically, society’s temperament changed quite drastically. It will be marked as the onset of the Fourth Turning.


If Strauss and Howe have it right then it is clearly time to duck and cover. What I see going forward are (1) resource constraints (as discussed previously), (2) conflict with China (possibly in the cathartic final stages); (3) seemingly endless shock waves resulting from collapsing credit markets (seems like an easy call); and (4) the demographic problems and defaulted promises (clearly articulated by the authors.) As Stephen Roach once said, however, “the ultimate insult would be to call it right and play it wrong.” I don’t see any riskless moves at this point. Admittedly, the riskless moves are often the ones in which there is so much perceived risk that it is priced in and, thus, removed…but I still can’t see them yet. A guy named Chris Martenson told me that people often say buying gold in 2001 was so easy because it was obviously so cheap. We shared a laugh over that one. Being a contrarian is painful as hell (as you know).


After finishing a book, I scamper over to Amazon’s comments section to read what others thought. I especially like to read the negative reviews (one and two stars). It is clear that most of the negatives come from those who didn’t understand the most fundamental tenets of the authors’ thesis. Others took offense at the description of their own generation (especially the youngsters lacking some wisdom imparted by time). Some saw a political agenda. (I did not.) A slug of reviews posted right after 9/11 emanated  from people looking for some sort of explanation. Given that 9/11 was a bad event in the third rather than fourth turning, they were not going to find any. Still others simply could not grasp that the era at the time of posting could possibly give way to a new one, which represents precisely the authors’ premise that the turnings keep marching on and arrive without much warning. Of course, the five star reviews were people like me who found that the book got in their heads and rattled around a lot.


Hope this review offered some insight.

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James Goulding
James Goulding
May 11, 2011 1:10 pm

I’ve studied Strauss & Howe’s work for 14 years, written a book about their theories and numerous papers, and several seminars. It’s my job to find people who can predict the future. They are the only two I’ve found. They wrote it, then, it came true.

I’ve taken a lot of their work and put it into pictures, on my website. http://www.jamesgoulding.com/generations.htm

Take care,
James Goulding

Thinker
Thinker
May 11, 2011 1:51 pm

James G., nice to see you over here. I’m spending more time here than at T4T forums these days, too.

Admin, thanks for sharing this. I’m not sure if you were aware that the book made the rounds in Washington, too, when it was first published. Al Gore loved it and made sure that every member of Congress had a copy. Many think Gore was hoping to become the Grey Champion of this 4T, but I’m not sure that was the case.

Anyway, I know I’ve been sharing the theory with a few of my clients and they’re starting to look for more evidence, as well. No one who thinks critically believes that we’re in a recovery.

Welshman
Welshman
May 11, 2011 2:40 pm

Admin,

What a great review, very honest and straight forward. Please do post Goulding Wedsite, as it will take me a week to go through it. This is what it is all about James, and people are awaking up.

Goulding,

Nice work, and easy to move around.

Dragline
Dragline
May 11, 2011 2:42 pm

Impressive website, James.

Mikey
Mikey
May 12, 2011 2:24 am

@James Goulding

A lot of what you have written there James is actually quite uncomfortable to read.

Great site. Thanks for sharing – I hope to hear more from you.

Terry
Terry
May 12, 2011 2:25 am

I am very pleased to have found Mr. Goulding’s site due to his comment. Now another reason why TBP is valuable to me.

The T4T summarization had me thinking I could’ve written it.

flash
flash
May 12, 2011 7:40 am

Great read.

And Kudos to you James Gould for the all the hard work that went into you “educational opportunity” site; in particular the heads up on a Generation of Vipers by Philip Wylie .

I went to Amazon to check out the reviews and found testimony that denial of the negative an enduring human trait i.e. shoot the messenger mentality lives on.

5.0 out of 5 stars A personal letter, May 30, 2005
By
Stephen A. Newton “Steve” (Sarasota, Florida) – See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
This review is from: Generation of Vipers (Paperback)
Back in 1968, I read Vipers and was blown away. I wrote Mr. Wylie a letter about how much I liked the book and how my own life was moving toward rebellion. I never expected to hear from the author, but I did. He wrote back saying that the publication of Vipers had ruined his life and his family’s, especially his daughter’s. He disavowed his insights and told me to forget trying to buck “the system.”

Nevertheless, it took courage for him to express his views and despite his warning, I followed his lead.
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Curt
Curt
August 19, 2011 9:43 pm

I think that 9-11 was the catalyst, and Obama’s defeat (or term-limit) will be the resolution. There’s almost always a fifth intermediate stage of stability (which I call “Maturity”) after the awakening (e.g., the Reagan-Bush I years). Ron Paul is the Gray Champion and the Tea Party is the kernel of the new society that will take over when Obama is gone. Since we already had the War on Terror, the next war will occur in the Recovery (which they call High), probably in the same regional arena (like the Korean War was after Japan lost). So this cycle we are leaving went like this (date of onset given):

Recovery/High (1945; war won); Awakening (1963; JFK killed); Maturity (1980; Reagan Elected); Unraveling (1992; Perot’s run and Clinton Elected); Crisis (9-11-2001, maybe even the FL mess in 2000); New High (2013; Obama’s defeat, or 2017 if he’s re-elected). This will be a very short cycle, but not unlike Europe’s period of crisis then stability of 1848-1914, a century aheade of our cycle.

Indentured_Servant
Indentured_Servant
August 19, 2011 11:23 pm

Admin said: “I’d have to disagree. 9/11 did not consolidate the country. It was further torn apart. A Fourth Turning war is decisive and conclusive. The War on Terror was neither.”

I have not read the book so this may be ignorant to say. I believe 9/11 did consolidate the country in its immediate aftermath. It lasted only as long as the MSM and their talking heads tried to figure out what the hell had just happened and how to spin it for consumption by the kool-aid drinkers. During that short period I think that nearly every American (including most politicians) had the right instincts and reaction to what happened. It is this same short period of dumbfounded media that that tells me there was no govt conspiracy in 9/11. Had the event been planned by the PTB I believe the MSM would have been spinning the event right out of the gate. The spin took time to evolve.

I think 9/11 blindsided the entitlement pushing, socialist lefties (along with everyone else) and severely hampered the Cloward-Piven Plan as the primary impetus for economic destruction. Had 9/11 not happened, the good times might have lasted another 5-15 years giving a greater chance of success to their plan. I think the inevitable economic crash happened just a bit too early and quickly for full implementation and O’bummer was brought in to get things back on track. Too many sheeple have now begun to see their bullshit meters begin twitching. Because of this, I give the country a 50/50 chance of not devolving into civil war and over throw of the govt by the socialists.

Don’t get me wrong, shit is going to get bad, then worse and many communities will indeed experience anarchy but 9/11 gave me hope that Americas spirit is alive and well if somewhat muted…….for now. No matter how this goes, it is certainly going to get interesting!

I could also just be bat shit crazy. Either way, the price, it is the same! (with apologies to the ‘Tater)
I_S

crazyivan
crazyivan
August 19, 2011 11:42 pm

IS-

“It is this same short period of dumbfounded media that that tells me there was no govt conspiracy in 9/11.”

You must be talking about that 7 hours or so before the BBC reported the collapse of wtc7, 20 minutes before it actually dropped like a rock

SSS
SSS
August 19, 2011 11:59 pm

crazyivan

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Dipshit.